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Nuts, I had been getting ready to order the Chapman. Now I need to do more research. Thanks for the info Rayjay
 
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Notice in the YouTube video for Wadsworth that he rotates the ratchet AND the bit when demonstrating the 12 degree arc.

 
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You won't regret buying a Chapman set if you have realistic expectations of what a "midget" ratchet is to be used for.

I build national match rifles. For smithing, I wouldn't use any other.

I can also tell you that every single toolbox issued by the Army to AH-64D technicians has a chapman set inside.

They are great.


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I'm still not entirely clear on whether or not those bits will work in common drivers. If they do, that would be an outstanding addition to a trail tool kit.

If they are entirely proprietary, it's just extra **** to haul around.
 
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bushmechanic said:
I'm still not entirely clear on whether or not those bits will work in common drivers. If they do, that would be an outstanding addition to a trail tool kit.



If they are entirely proprietary, it's just extra **** to haul around.
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Sorry, I failed to address that in my earlier posting.

They can be used universally, at least in everything I've tried!

HOWEVER, They are not IDEAL for use in anything other than the Chapman ratchet/handle/extension... They have ball detents,knurled ends, and a lot of the "heads" on the bits are oversized.

I'd bet ya the price of the master set you wouldn't regret owning one, haha!




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I have seen way to many Chapman sets break to make them a good value, the ratchets are a very weak link,

seen many new guys buy the Chapman and a year later buy the Wadsworth because of higher quality product/ failure of the Chapman
 
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RAYJAY said:
I have seen way to many Chapman sets break to make them a good value, the ratchets are a very weak link,

seen many new guys buy the Chapman and a year later buy the Wadsworth because of higher quality product/ failure of the Chapman
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That's bad luck man!
Im surprised you've had/seen so many deficiencies with them.

We had 2 heavy battalions with them issued in the armament/maintenance sections (100+ guys) using them almost everyday over the course of 6 years....

I was the Tooling NCO as an additional duty, and responsible for warranty/stock replenishment/ running spares ordering and replacements of all issued tools within the section... And I only replaced a handful or so of 1/16" Hex and #2 Phillips bits from Chapman sets, and they were only due to field loss and end user-admitted neglect (corrosion/over-torque/etc).

I won't hype up a tool that isn't deserving, but i sure as hell won't sell a tool short either.

The Chapman 13 series stuff is AMCOM/TACOM field tested and proven.

Again, if utilized -within- its parameters.

Countless times I've used the Chapman #3 Phillips on a Chapman ratchet/handle combo to remove Hardman-coated machine screws out of ballistic decking to pull 30mm ammunition side loaders off a helicopter. I've seen a couple of snap-on 1/4" drive breaker bars split doing that same task.

I'm sure there's some bad ones out there, I just figured I'd have seen one.

To each their own I suppose.

AFTERTHOUGHT: I have no experience with the Wadsworth, but based off the video I watched above, the Chapman appears to be more streamlined as far as length and profile... If your not using a midget ratchet due to spacial constraints, you probably shouldn't be using a midget ratchet to begin with for the task at hand. (smithing excluded)

A midget ratchet is a solution to a task that a 1/4" "standard" ratchet won't swing, and a stubby screwdriver won't give enough control/torque.

***Precision electronics excluded***
There are better solutions altogether in that aspect.

If I may ask, RAYJAY...
How many sets is "too many" that you've seen **** out?


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Tejaas said:
That's bad luck man!
Im surprised you've had/seen so many deficiencies with them.

We had 2 heavy battalions with them issued in the armament/maintenance sections (100+ guys) using them almost everyday over the course of 6 years....

I was the Tooling NCO as an additional duty, and responsible for warranty/stock replenishment/ running spares ordering and replacements of all issued tools within the section... And I only replaced a handful or so of 1/16" Hex and #2 Phillips bits from Chapman sets, and they were only due to field loss and end user-admitted neglect (corrosion/over-torque/etc).

I won't hype up a tool that isn't deserving, but i sure as hell won't sell a tool short either.

The Chapman 13 series stuff is AMCOM/TACOM field tested and proven.

Again, if utilized -within- its parameters.

Countless times I've used the Chapman #3 Phillips on a Chapman ratchet/handle combo to remove Hardman-coated machine screws out of ballistic decking to pull 30mm ammunition side loaders off a helicopter. I've seen a couple of snap-on 1/4" drive breaker bars split doing that same task.

I'm sure there's some bad ones out there, I just figured I'd have seen one.

To each their own I suppose.

AFTERTHOUGHT: I have no experience with the Wadsworth, but based off the video I watched above, the Chapman appears to be more streamlined as far as length and profile... If your not using a midget ratchet due to spacial constraints, you probably shouldn't be using a midget ratchet to begin with for the task at hand. (smithing excluded)

A midget ratchet is a solution to a task that a 1/4" "standard" ratchet won't swing, and a stubby screwdriver won't give enough control/torque.

***Precision electronics excluded***
There are better solutions altogether in that aspect.

If I may ask, RAYJAY...
How many sets is "too many" that you've seen **** out?


~Tejaas~

WTB: Snap-On Orange Hard Handle SDD6 & SSDP63 in Very Good Condition!
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of all the guys i worked with ( would say 20 to 25 over the years printing industry ) IRC not one liking or say the Chapman is a better tool over the Wadsworth its not the bits that the problem its the ratchet itself,

do not know the application your using it for, but for ours i may use mine 10 hour a day for weeks on end doing plate lockups, and as for lo profile the bits are about the same length :thumbup:
 
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I have used Chapman ratchets for many years with no problems. I called my dad and asked him about them because he had used them for many years working in an underground coal mine. He said he couldn't recall one ever breaking. Its hard to imagine rougher service than in the mines. One day I will upgrade to the master set when funds allow and do it without regret.

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