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Chasing air leaks is like Whack-A-Mole

raferguson

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I had put in my air lines earlier this year, and I knew that I had a leak or two. I just kept shutting the tank valve at the end of the day. Today I decided to chase the leaks in earnest. It seems like I fix one leak and another pops up. Today I fixed, or tried to fix, about 6 leaks. Generally, the leak that I try to fix is in fact fixed, but a new leak shows up elsewhere. The new leaks are generally on joints that I don't think that I disturbed, but I suppose that I must have disturbed them somehow.

In order to get to the leaks, I often had to break three or four good joints. I have about 40 feet of 3/4" black iron pipe, mostly to cool the air. I have about 60 joints, so 60 opportunities for leaks. I use pipe dope, as I understand that it is bad practice to use teflon tape, as bits of it could end up in air tools. Of course, I have a filter at the point of use, so I suppose that any bits of teflon would be caught in the filter. It almost makes me wish that I had done it in copper, with soldered joints......

I have been using soapy water to find leaks, and it seems to work. Some of the smaller leaks do not show up right away, but later I see a clump of small bubbles.

The last time that I put in air lines, I do not recall having this much trouble. One difference is that this time I cut a few threads with a harbor freight pipe threader, but that represented maybe four joints out of sixty.

When I shut off the tank valve, I can see about a 10 psi drop in the line in around 10 minutes. I have not yet checked for air leaks in the drain valves, or leaks in the quick connects, because I keep finding leaks in the other piping.

I would be interested in any thoughts or suggestions, or maybe I just wanted to gripe. ;-)
 
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Milton Shaw

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I find most of my leaks in hose reels and quick connects. I have had more problem with factory treads than the one's I cut myself. I have one of he ultrasonic leak finders and it works great for finding slow leaks, much better and a lot less mess than bubble liquid. I didn't buy it for this but it works great..
 

Fueler

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I have been down this road. They are correct, the big box store Chinese pipe threads are awful. Teflon tape or teflon paste did not work for me. What did work was the thick, ugly plumbers pipe dope. Good luck
 
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I have been down this road. They are correct, the big box store Chinese pipe threads are awful. Teflon tape or teflon paste did not work for me. What did work was the thick, ugly plumbers pipe dope. Good luck

Agreed! I thread my own pipe.
 

marineman

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It's a different animal but same principal, we deal with the same thing all day every day at work working on semis. Find 1 leak in the system, get it fixed and all of a sudden the fitting next to it starts leaking. I can't really help your situation at all, it's frustrating as hell but not uncommon.
 
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PeterT

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A lot of pipe now days is Chinese junk. We save old pipe in good shape at work as it threads like butter compared to the **** pipe they buy.

My plumbing supplyshop has black pipe made in USA and I am glad to spend a few extra bucks on it over the HD or Lowe's Chinese junk pipe.
 

ozyborn

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Exactly why I did my shop in copper pipe. Chinese piping is total ****.
 

59 wagon man

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ok here's the old school trick go to a plumbing supply or really good hardware store. ask for a roll of spoolwick. it will look like a roll of single stranded string, then get any kind of liquid pipe lubricant such as Teflon, pipe dope grip etc.wrap the threads with the spoolwick and then apply the paste, tighten well and watch your leaks disappear
 
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