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Cheap tools to the rescue

ssdave

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I'm glad to be able to own and use better quality tools. After a lifetime of upgrading I'm finally at a point where I like, and can rely on, the tools I own/use.

This weekend I was backfilling the road mix in my garage to prep for the floor. I rented a skid steer loader, when I picked it up it had 2 brand new tires on it. After about an hour, I hear a hiss, and one new tire goes flat. It's 15 minutes to closing time at the rental center. I call them, they don't answer. About an hour to closing time at the tire store. I decide to change out the flat so I can finish working the weekend.

I bought a rollaway top and bottom of tools Saturday morning. Went through and high graded out the Proto and Snap-on and set them aside, had the boxes and the remaining cheap tools in the back of my truck for disposal. No other tools on hand, and no time to go get some. Dug in the box, found a CM -V- socket the right size, I think 1 1/16", and a 12" extension, and an ancient Thorsen breaker bar. It was short, had some odd rubber handle that was loose, and the pivot was a machine screw. I had my doubts, but time wasn't on my side.

The breaker bar felt like it was going to give out on every lug nut, particularly one that was especially tight, where someone must have really hit it with the air gun. I was careful to hold it where it wouldn't hurt me when it gave. It bent/flexed a bunch, but didn't fail. At the end of the 8 bolts, the pivot screw was sticking out a bit and bent, but still intact. On every nut, the CM socket and extension were twisting/giving a bit, but they made it through without fail. Makes me really appreciate the Proto that I usually use, in comparison.

Took the tire to the shop, had it patched, and used the same tools to put it back together. It held up through the whole process. I don't think the breaker bar would last many more iterations, but it saved the day when I was too short on time to run and get good tools. The socket and extension can probably be used sparingly for another 40 years by someone less picky than me.

Also used a $5 yard sale "performance something" brand cheap Taiwan two ton floor jack to lift it up, it was all I had on hand that would go under the low clearance flat tire loader.

So, cheap tools saved the day when I was pinched for time. But, I was reminded by their marginal performance why I don't rely on them usually.

Oh, the socket was a 12 point, not a 6. But it worked! From what I read here, that's not to be expected. It didn't even round off a nut, and I probably was putting 150 foot pounds to it.
 
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jd_1138

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Yep, even a cheap tool is better than NO tool. I know lots of guys who can't even be bothered to drop $10 on a HF 25" breaker bar. But then they ***** and whine when they get a flat and have to use an 8 inch crappy tire tool that came with their car. Good luck with that since the wheels were probably put on with an impact at a shop.

I keep a breaker bar and impact rated 3/4 6 point deep socket in both of our cars, and I carry a set of tools in my car.
 
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3baygarage

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Glad to hear they got you out of a jam.

I’m not too proud to say I did the 12 point on a lug nut thing once, a long time ago. Never again, learned my lesson. I took an old 3/4 Craftsman 12 point deep well to a decently worn GM lugnut. The nut got stuck in the socket. Don’t remember if I tightened it back on and knocked the socket off or what, but it was a lesson learned.
 

greg13

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I always try to keep the cheap tools around. You never know when you will need a cheap bend a wrench, I would rather take a torch to a cheap wrench and bend it to fit rather than one of my Snap ons.
 

BDT/NWMN

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Yep, even a cheap tool is better than NO tool. I know lots of guys who can't even be bothered to drop $10 on a HF 25" breaker bar. But then they ***** and whine when they get a flat and have to use an 8 inch crappy tire tool that came with their car. Good luck with that since the wheels were probably put on with an impact at a shop.

I keep a breaker bar and impact rated 3/4 6 point deep socket in both of our cars, and I carry a set of tools in my car.


:thumbup:One small tip I can add: Add a set of cheapo metric deep well impact sockets, a four ton bottle jack, a few foot long pieces of 2 X 6, and a set of wheel chocks, and a can of penetrating oil. Don't forget the sledge hammer for the wheels that refuse to release their rusty grip on the hub. It sounds like allot of stuff, but really it isn't. Someone's Mother in Law wouldn't be able to put them in the dumb *** class for not being able to get the wheel off of Her Buick. :)
 
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Jonboy1974

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Yep, even a cheap tool is better than NO tool. I know lots of guys who can't even be bothered to drop $10 on a HF 25" breaker bar. But then they ***** and whine when they get a flat and have to use an 8 inch crappy tire tool that came with their car. Good luck with that since the wheels were probably put on with an impact at a shop.

I keep a breaker bar and impact rated 3/4 6 point deep socket in both of our cars, and I carry a set of tools in my car.

Same here, bought HF breaker bars and sockets for all my cars. Hated getting stuck on the side of the road with the crappy tire iron trying to bust lugnuts loose.
 

CR888

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I can't believe the 12pt socket actually worked and did not round off the lug nuts, are you sure your telling the truth? lol. Its amazing what we can achieve with a few ol dodgy tools when we have to.
 

Gmonkee

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I spent my youth with then old and dodgy tools. It was not the horrible experience some describe but stuff did bend and break.

My years driving junkers was not years I had all good tools or full sets. Far from it but less dodgy **** than my teen years.

I kept cars running most of those years.

Now its easier to know which are better tools and they are less cost. All the real dreck of the past has already broken leaving better survivors. Just buy that stuff.
 

magicrat

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That HF $10 25 inch breaker bar was expected to b a throw away after a few uses......but a few years later it just won't die.....and like others I keep an hf breaker and 22 mm husky impact socket in my car just in case.
 
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