gdocktor3
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I found this on facebook. Hopefully the link works. http://speedsociety.com/this-is-how...box-without-tracing-or-cutting/&source=murder
Cheap way to shadow tool box
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Matthew3901
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just watched the link, it works. I have seen the same thing on facebook. I have mixed feelings about shadowing tools in foam. I get that they do not move and you can track them, but then what do you do when you buy more tools? Tool collections are always expanding. I also think the young man gets an A for ingenuity, but the final product looks rough. Yet it could be a method that could be perfected with perhaps different material or spray foam...not sure
Matthew3901
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here is another version with different material
Codejack
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apollo11
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IMHO, while it is cute, it wastes too much space.
hangfirew8
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Spray foam is really messy, sticky stuff. It's great for shipping fragile items, really locks them in place and protects them as well. If you try this, make sure you protect your drawer, your hands with gloves, etc. and make a plan for where the excess spillover will go.
I totally understand shadowing in aerospace work, where you need to assure you've left no tools in the craft. Also schools to make for quick audits. For me, I'm constantly upgrading my tools and re-optimizing their layout, shadowing would be a waste of time. I did do the plier-on-edge organizer thing, that's super useful, and you can still reshuffle the pliers at any time.
I totally understand shadowing in aerospace work, where you need to assure you've left no tools in the craft. Also schools to make for quick audits. For me, I'm constantly upgrading my tools and re-optimizing their layout, shadowing would be a waste of time. I did do the plier-on-edge organizer thing, that's super useful, and you can still reshuffle the pliers at any time.
hangfirew8
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Spray foam is really messy, sticky stuff. It's great for shipping fragile items, really locks them in place and protects them as well. If you try this, make sure you protect your drawer, your hands with gloves, etc. and make a plan for where the excess spillover will go.
I totally understand shadowing in aerospace work, where you need to assure you've left no tools in the craft. Also schools to make for quick audits. For me, I'm constantly upgrading my tools and re-optimizing their layout, shadowing would be a waste of time. I did do the plier-on-edge organizer thing, that's super useful, and you can still reshuffle the pliers at any time.
I totally understand shadowing in aerospace work, where you need to assure you've left no tools in the craft. Also schools to make for quick audits. For me, I'm constantly upgrading my tools and re-optimizing their layout, shadowing would be a waste of time. I did do the plier-on-edge organizer thing, that's super useful, and you can still reshuffle the pliers at any time.
Codejack
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I'm considering it for my portable socket kit that I just put together, and least for the 1/4" and 3/8" sets; the drawers are basically full, so any new pieces would have to go elsewhere, anyway.
I'm using grooved vinyl floor runner right now, which is pretty good, and would be fine for a stationary box, but the 1/4" set especially is moving around too much.
I'm using grooved vinyl floor runner right now, which is pretty good, and would be fine for a stationary box, but the 1/4" set especially is moving around too much.
Matthew3901
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I like the kizan foamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRMwDRCclYk
Codejack
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The Kaizen foam looks great, but it's $40 for a 2' x 4' section. Granted, it looks like less work...
I'm trying the spray foam method, now; my 1/4" set is under cloth and waiting for the foam to cure. I'm doing sockets, so I'm not sure how pretty it is going to be (they probably moved around under the foam), but if it holds them all in place, I will live with it
I'm trying the spray foam method, now; my 1/4" set is under cloth and waiting for the foam to cure. I'm doing sockets, so I'm not sure how pretty it is going to be (they probably moved around under the foam), but if it holds them all in place, I will live with it
Codejack
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Codejack
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Here's a heavy-duty job of it:
Matthew3901
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Codejack,
I hope you post a pic of the one your are doing. Would be interested to see how it worked out.
I hope you post a pic of the one your are doing. Would be interested to see how it worked out.
Matthew3901
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Codejack,
I hope you post a pic of the one your are doing. Would be interested to see how it worked out.
I hope you post a pic of the one your are doing. Would be interested to see how it worked out.
Codejack
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Eh, not brilliantly, but usable. Some stuff moved around, especially at the edges, and the foam didn't spread evenly. Only the 3/8" set was dry enough to test, and I resprayed it:
And here's the 1/4" set, which I also resprayed:
As you can see, some of the socket and extension forms around the edges moved, which isn't the prettiest thing in the world, but it's not going to stop me from using it.
I'm also probably not going to bother with the contrast spray. It's neat, but unnecessary, and I don't feel like taping up all of my tools.
And, of course, my 1/2" set is incomplete, so it would be rather pointless.
Just buy some decent density foam locally lay it over existing drawer liner and cut the slots with razor blades or craft scalpel .
I only done it for my extensions as got fed up with them moving about and being hard put in position, want shallow tray bit like kitchen drawer tray but never found suitable one so made foam from 3 sheets drawer liner bonded together.
Sockets and extensions quite easy as straight lines mainly so didn't take long do, ratchets screwdrivers and pliers tend be hard get crisp neat finish .
wouldn't want do a lot shadowed but does have it's uses especially mobile guys .
I only done it for my extensions as got fed up with them moving about and being hard put in position, want shallow tray bit like kitchen drawer tray but never found suitable one so made foam from 3 sheets drawer liner bonded together.
Sockets and extensions quite easy as straight lines mainly so didn't take long do, ratchets screwdrivers and pliers tend be hard get crisp neat finish .
wouldn't want do a lot shadowed but does have it's uses especially mobile guys .
Codejack
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You know, if nothing else, that sounds like less of a mess
Of course, finding "decent" foam around here is problematic; where do you find it?
AndyA
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The walmart camping mats are the cheapest source of foam I've found. One mat does two drawers in my box. So roughly $4.00 a drawer. It's cheap enough you don't cringe if you need to rework a drawer.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ozark-Trial-Camping-Pad-Blue/16783660
They're about 1/2" thick and have a skin on both sides. Hope you like blue!
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ozark-Trial-Camping-Pad-Blue/16783660
They're about 1/2" thick and have a skin on both sides. Hope you like blue!
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Codejack
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Matthew3901
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how do the walmart mats hold up to grease and chemical exposure?
You know, if nothing else, that sounds like less of a mess
Of course, finding "decent" foam around here is problematic; where do you find it?
I just used 4mm tool drawer foam and tac adhesive to laminate them.
3 layers is all I needed as not much depth required for extensions .
Good thing to laminating them was could precut shallower 1/4 drive extension slots then add extra layer and do deep ones for 3/8 and 1/2 .
Was cheap for me as only wanted extension done.
Your mobile box drawers not too big so wouldn't cost too much, camping and sport mats could be option, some of it may not be best with oils solvents etc but try what can find locally ...
Codejack
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Yea, I'll look around.
I might give the spray method another try, too; I have the frame, and if I could find some way to hold everything in place while I press the foam down, I bet it would come out pretty well.
Codejack
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Here's the final result of the first attempt at spray liners:
Not pretty, but everything stays pretty well in place. I may give it another shot using some dowels or something to hold everything in place. I also think that the cloth is too restrictive about letting the foam spread, and maybe plastic cling wrap would be better, as it should stretch. I could then pull the plastic and paint the foam.
Not pretty, but everything stays pretty well in place. I may give it another shot using some dowels or something to hold everything in place. I also think that the cloth is too restrictive about letting the foam spread, and maybe plastic cling wrap would be better, as it should stretch. I could then pull the plastic and paint the foam.