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Sn0wlink

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Snap-On have tools made by other firms including Bahco, Williams etc...

Are there any other real cheap alternatives to Snap-On tools that hold up well to a everyday mechanics workshop.

I find Draper Expert Spanners to be reliable (very under-rated)
Facom Steel Series for working with solvents (paints)
And Clarke HD Plus Tool chests for a (UK) Alternative to expensive roller cabs.

What bargins have you guys found?
 
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There's seriously a tool truck equivalent thread that's right up your alley. The problem you're going to run into is that you are in the UK, not US.
 

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So is Williams and Bahco are out of your price range as well? Because I use each of those every day and I turn wrenched for a living. Professional quality at a fraction of the price. I have used Cal-Hawk tools when I first started and they were pretty decent for the money too, if you're lookign for much cheaper. Not 100% sure but I think they're USA made as well.
 

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Snap-On have tools made by other firms including Bahco, Williams etc...

Are there any other real cheap alternatives to Snap-On tools that hold up well to a everyday mechanics workshop.

I find Draper Expert Spanners to be reliable (very under-rated)
Facom Steel Series for working with solvents (paints)
And Clarke HD Plus Tool chests for a (UK) Alternative to expensive roller cabs.

What bargins have you guys found?

Bud you have kinda lost me FACOM? I love a bit of facom but its more expensive than snap on.

Halfords pro stuff aint bad
stanley stuffs good
Britool good even the cheep maccy bits
kamasa stuffs not at all bad, lovely kamasa tool box on gumtree at the mo
 

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So is Williams and Bahco are out of your price range as well? Because I use each of those every day and I turn wrenched for a living. Professional quality at a fraction of the price.


Agreed!
 

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so, let's get something strait here...CDI, Bahco, Williams, et al, are actually wholly owned by Snap On...snap on lets them make similar tools...and i'm sure there's a bit in the opposite direction but i'm sure it's mainly the first way...

that said, a snap on tool truck driver can't buy or warranty anything that says williams or bahco onto it...those are "Snap On Industrial Brands" or some such non sense
 

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so, let's get something strait here...CDI, Bahco, Williams, et al, are actually wholly owned by Snap On...snap on lets them make similar tools...and i'm sure there's a bit in the opposite direction but i'm sure it's mainly the first way...

that said, a snap on tool truck driver can't buy or warranty anything that says williams or bahco onto it...those are "Snap On Industrial Brands" or some such non sense

Pretty much. If I remember correctly, both Williams and Bahco are slighty older verisons of SO. Think they're even made in the same factory (could be wrong). I do know that Williams offers awesome screwdrivers, wrenches, and sockets with around the same quality. Both Williams and Bahco's ratcheting mechanisms in their drivers feel exactly the same as my SO's have.
 

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Pretty much. If I remember correctly, both Williams and Bahco are slighty older verisons of SO. Think they're even made in the same factory (could be wrong). I do know that Williams offers awesome screwdrivers, wrenches, and sockets with around the same quality. Both Williams and Bahco's ratcheting mechanisms in their drivers feel exactly the same as my SO's have.

There's an episode of "How It's Made - Snap-On Sockets" online that's been posted on here plenty that shows them making sockets.

Notice at 1:44 they're stamping the Williams label into the sockets.:D
 

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Pretty much. If I remember correctly, both Williams and Bahco are slighty older verisons of SO......................

I believe that. My dad has a set of hard black handle snap on screwdrivers he got before I was born. I am 47...and just found the same set by williams screwdrivers online.

I have used and abused dad's since I was a kid. I will be ordering the williams set as soon as I can. :thumbup:
 

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that said, a snap on tool truck driver can't buy or warranty anything that says williams or bahco onto it...those are "Snap On Industrial Brands" or some such non sense

Really? The snappy dealer here said he would give me guts for williams and bahco ratchets:dunno:
 

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There's an episode of "How It's Made - Snap-On Sockets" online that's been posted on here plenty that shows them making sockets.

Notice at 1:44 they're stamping the Williams label into the sockets.:D

Your eyes are pretty fast to see that!
 

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Are there any other real cheap alternatives to Snap-On tools that hold up well to a everyday mechanics workshop.
Pretty much anything in the real world. I have tools from all sorts of companies & they hold up just fine if you aren't some ham-fisted ******* :)
My go-to pliers were bought at Halfords in 1978, still work perfectly after 36 years.

Also: Not all Kamasa stuff is imported Asian ****, some of it is imported (West) German quality. My sets of metric & imperial ring spanners ferinstance... (Also 30+ years old)
 
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There's an episode of "How It's Made - Snap-On Sockets" online that's been posted on here plenty that shows them making sockets.

Notice at 1:44 they're stamping the Williams label into the sockets.:D

Yeah, Williams quality blew my mind. Ratcheting screwdriver, screwdrivers, wrenches and sockets. Their stubby wrenches are the most comfortable I have held to this day. I would recommend them to any mechanic, especially those fresh out of school. I bought Bacho's stubby ratcheting screwdriver off Amazon the other month for only $15! Let one of my co-workers use it the first day and he offered me $50 on the spot for it, he didn't have a clue lol.
 

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It's the one on the bottom left, best I can do atm!

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Really? The snappy dealer here said he would give me guts for williams and bahco ratchets:dunno:

well since they're either the f80(bahco) or 936(williams), yeah, they are the same...but the drivers can't warranty out any wrenches or screwdrivers or anything else like that that says anything other than snap on or blue point on it
 

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well since they're either the f80(bahco) or 936(williams), yeah, they are the same...but the drivers can't warranty out any wrenches or screwdrivers or anything else like that that says anything other than snap on or blue point on it

Yeah, that's understandable tho. He can't stock the world in the truck. But they might be able to replace the shanks in the screwdrivers.
 

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Snap-On have tools made by other firms including Bahco, Williams etc...

Are there any other real cheap alternatives to Snap-On tools that hold up well to a everyday mechanics workshop.

I find Draper Expert Spanners to be reliable (very under-rated)
Facom Steel Series for working with solvents (paints)
And Clarke HD Plus Tool chests for a (UK) Alternative to expensive roller cabs.

What bargins have you guys found?

I think the draper stuff is heavily rebrands. Could be mistaken but I was looking at them on ebay and they looked extremely familiar to other tools with different brand stamps. Most of those brands aren't available where you live though.:lol:
 

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Erm what da ya mean WHAT? full tray of facom ratchet spanner 7 to 32 £350 snappy was less, but I preffered the facom set. This has so far gone for every item ive looked at , take there jet+ tool boxes, who would pay 1k for a plastic tool box? And just a roll cab at that, then theres the vat so thats 1200 for a plastic tool box thats not very big, granted well made but £1200. Please ive been doing this for a few years now 25 actually you have to look at quality for money not just quantity. And pound for pound facom as more expensive than snappy.
 
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Bud you have kinda lost me FACOM? I love a bit of facom but its more expensive than snap on.

Halfords pro stuff aint bad
stanley stuffs good
Britool good even the cheep maccy bits
kamasa stuffs not at all bad, lovely kamasa tool box on gumtree at the mo

Unfortunatly in the UK Facom works out cheaper. There are more deals arive festive seasons so Facom drop prices. Snap-On in the U.K always has a fixed price off the trucks.
 

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Erm what da ya mean WHAT? full tray of facom ratchet spanner 7 to 32 £350 snappy was less, but I preffered the facom set. This has so far gone for every item ive looked at , take there jet+ tool boxes, who would pay 1k for a plastic tool box? And just a roll cab at that, then theres the vat so thats 1200 for a plastic tool box thats not very big, granted well made but £1200. Please ive been doing this for a few years now 25 actually you have to look at quality for money not just quantity. And pound for pound facom as more expensive than snappy.

Didnt realize you were a Euro, much cheaper over here.
 

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Unfortunatly in the UK Facom works out cheaper. There are more deals arive festive seasons so Facom drop prices. Snap-On in the U.K always has a fixed price off the trucks.

Granted you can have a deal with mac on facom bits but they still aint cheaper.
 

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Snap-On have tools made by other firms including Bahco, Williams etc...

Are there any other real cheap alternatives to Snap-On tools that hold up well to a everyday mechanics workshop.

I find Draper Expert Spanners to be reliable (very under-rated)
Facom Steel Series for working with solvents (paints)
And Clarke HD Plus Tool chests for a (UK) Alternative to expensive roller cabs.

What bargins have you guys found?

Unfortunately we don't have the same access to some of the tool brands that our American cousins do.

Older draper expert was quite good, don't know how the newer stuff fairs.

Older britool was good, not cheap, but cheaper than snap-on. Seemed to go downhill when bought out by Facom who were subsequently bought out by Stanley. Haven't seen any decent Stanley stuff in the UK since they stopped making the 5000 series screwdrivers.

Halfords advanced (formerly professional) reputed to be rebranded Gear wrench, is very good for the money, and 20% better with a trade card. And lifetime warrany.

Snap-on butane soldering irons are made by Portasol in Ireland, buy 'em off e-bay for half the price Snap-on charge.

Snap-on multimeters are made by TPI and are available off e-bay for half the price Snap-on charge.

Torque wrenches. Don't buy Snap-on, they're ****! buy Norbar or one of the other 9 brands that they produce for, including Halfords...who offer lifetime warranty, except for the ratchet mechanism.

Screwdrivers. Given how little i use screwdrivers on modern cars i won't be buying any more off the big white truck. Couple of years ago i bought a set of mechanics pattern (similar shape to the old Snap-on hard handle) Draper screwdrivers (11 piece set) £16 off e-bay, expect to pay 10x that off the truck.

King **** (stop sniggering!) always used to be pretty good stuff for a reasonable price.

Sykes pickavant made/make great tools for not much £££, they got bought out by Facom who stopped them producing hard line tools and made them concentrate on workshop/special tooling. Word is Sykes have bought themselves out from Facom. I hope so, their Mega Torque screwdrivers were seriously good back in the day, still have a set.
 

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The new draper expert IMHO is utter trash as is britool. And facom, really? They might be ok for home use, but after spending years in the heavy goods industry, they just don't cut it.
 

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Depends what industry you work in. I've a fair bit of Facom stuff (spanners, vise grips, pullers, screwdrivers, etc), all about 10 years old, and so far nothing has broken.

Snap On is Snap On - yes it's good, and yes it's expensive. For much of the stuff I use, I can't justify Snap On prices these days; I bought a load back in the day, but I was earning more then, and had more disposable cash. Not so anymore. I'll still buy the odd bit here and there as and if I need it, but it's much more of a consideration these days.

Draper stuff I've never been fond of. Perfect example are the mini picks. Every set I've ever had, have twisted (inside the handle) and bent (at the tip). My Snap On ones have never twisted (although I have bent one a tiny bit, at the tip). I've a few Draper sockets, and they aren't amazing. Passable, but nothing to shout about. And a ratchet spanner crapped it's guts out barely a month or so from new. I do have a 1/2" drive ratchet of theirs that a customer gave me. I use it probably three times a year...

Britool - never used it. I think my dad had some old, old, Britool, but I've never had any.

Laser aren't bad. I've been using a Laser branded 3/8" ratchet, and metric sockets, everyday for a decade, and it's not once let me down. When I started out I bought the said ratchet and sockets, plus some water pump pliers, screwdriver bit set, a few extensions, some locking pliers, and a few other bits, and it's all still going strong today (apart from the locking pliers, which I lost!). I do have to tighten the nut on the water pump pliers now and again, but that's cos I'm too lazy to go buy threadlock. I've no idea what the tooth count is on my ratchet, and I actually don't really care - it's fine enough not to bother me, it's strong, and it's never been opened for servicing. I just dunk it in motor oil for a few hours every now and again (like, every few years!), and it's good to go! I reckon it cost less than £20, probably more like £15/£16, ten years ago - so that's £1.50-£2 a year use cost. Can't complain about that!

Halfords Pro/Advanced - been pretty happy with their stuff. I've had quite a bit of their stuff over the last 15 or so years - a full 1/2" drive set with extensions, UJ's, sockets, etc, a 1/4" ratchet that's used almost daily for a decade, a few sockets, a full set of flex head ratchet spanners (which I'm also led to believe are GearWrench made - although these are probably 8 years old?) and other bits and bobs here and there, and so far the only thing I've ever broken has been a 1/2" drive wobble extension (trying to undo a severely stuck manifold nut which didn't have clear access). Their screwdrivers aren't really anything to shout about, but the ratchet, socket, and wrench/spanner side of it is definitely useable professionally. Warranty is good on them, but beware they a) require the original receipt, and b) don't warranty any ratchet mechs. So bust a ratchet spanner or socket wrench, and your a bit out of luck.

So really, as ever, it boils down to what you need - Halfords are easy to get to (most towns have one, as do most retail parks), but Snap On is less quibble warranty (in fact I've never had a quibble from a SO warranty)

I do think that for home use and the hobbyist, SO is overkill - mainly on price. There's no denying their tools, for the most part, are great - but if you're just tinkering with cars (or whatever) at weekends, it's a bit OTT in my opinion. That said, even if you're an 83 year old woman, you should all own a SO ratchet screwdriver! Love mine so much, I bought two!
 
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oktawian

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I guess open new topic is pointless, so:

I'm about to buy spanners set for me. Price matters as always, but don't want to buy ****. I need them in my workshop, snap on is way to expensive, I'm EU based so german tools price is way better than in US. Want to buy whole set of Combination Wrench Set from 6mm to 32 mm. So far found set of :
Bahco 111M/26T for ~ 140euro, it has 23 ,26 and even 29 mm spanner ! For now its my best choice!

Projahn 3952002 for ~ 72 euro, german made as well, i guess ? correct me if i'm wrong. missing some spanners that bahco has but in europe, we do not use them.

Carolus - gedore brand ! but have no idea if they are German made ? 0900.0021 for ~ 80 euro but has only 21 spanners , no 23,25,26,27,28,29 mm so... and you never know when you will be need them.

Any clue on them ? I have carolus hex set and its really good. bahco is bahco :D, have one set of pass thru sockets and it's really good, it has lifetime warranty, do not know about others ? Maybe others brands ? I'm open to offers.

Best Regards Oktawian

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Carolus has now -10 % off on Reversible ratchet wrench set, 12 pcs 1710.012, its for ~ 100 euro and looking really nice, but dont know about them to much ? MAybe someone who has them can say something ?
need to call them (carolus) to ask about warranty, if it is liftime or just 2 years ..
 

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Torque wrenches. Don't buy Snap-on, they're ****! buy Norbar or one of the other 9 brands that they produce for, including Halfords...who offer lifetime warranty, except for the ratchet mechanism.

Thank you for the info above.

What other companies Norbar produces for?





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