Cheapest Way to Enclose a Space

[edl]

Hi Guys

I have available to me about a 40x40 corner of a warehouse that has no climate control...so lot's of heat and humidity - 13' ceilings and 2 sides of the square space are the block wall of the building - ceiling is corrugated metal with spray foam on the inside...so slightly insulated...but not going to do anything to the ceiling or block walls as someone else owns the building

What is the cheapest way to enclose the other 2 sides in order to climate control the space inside - in particular a dehumidifier...but a/c in certain months as well

I have considered stick framing it w plywood siding, metal stud framing it, curtain wall, etc - just wondering if there is something i am not considering

as for the enclosures, they should have some insulating property both to make the space inside airtight'ish and also to not lose any climate control put into the inside of the space

while frame walls would have the added benefit of being able to hang shelves, that is not strictly necessary

Thanks in advance!

 

[ransil]

Pallet racking, bolt on wallboard of choice on outside of it , closed space and shelf space.

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[gemniii]

Pallet racking, bolt on wallboard of choice on outside of it , closed space and shelf space.

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yup. Do you have to do 4 walls and a ceiling?
Especially if you are doing only two walls you could put up pallet rack and make the first level workbench height. Then lay sheets of plywood and you've got instant workbenches.

 

[edl]

need 4/ceiling or else I am climate controlling the rest of the warehouse (about 10x more than my space)

2 of those 4 walls are already there since is it is a corner of the building (block walls)

ceiling will use existing ceiling

so just down to building 2 sides to enclose the space

 

[jdewitt]

Here's one you may not have thought about, straw bale walls. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw-bale_construction

 

[3onthetree]

If its that big of a "warehouse" I would guess its commercial/ind and regulated by the city/county. So fire exits/signage, fire resistive construction, etc etc. Hopefully not though.

I like the idea of racking, maybe with the space above the rack height just poly to avoid making it an official space if regulations kick in.

If you're not going to be there a lot of hours or continuous days then it may not be prudent to run a/c constant and worry about insulated interior walls.

If it needs to be a secured space then you have to go at least studs/drywall minimum.

 

[edl]

Hay bales...certainly had not thought about that!

Studs already on the list....

Thanks guys

 

[Bondo]

What is the cheapest way to enclose the other 2 sides in order to climate control the space inside - in particular a dehumidifier...but a/c in certain months as well

Ayuh,..... Hang 6 mil poly from roof to floor,.......

 

[edl]

will that provide enough airtightness and insulation for the climate control $ going into enclosed space?

 

[firebirdparts]

I think both. Stick framing with insulation and 6 mil poly. Insulation is the most expensive part of that formula, so you can spend as you like on that part of it. You could in fact hang roll insulation instead of the 6 mil poly.

 

[bczygan]

Tarps!

Bill

 

[MrSurly]

Consider this material
It isn't "cheapest" (that would be Visqueen or Kraft paper) but it has properties that could save money versus other 'built up' walls.
I used this to create a water heater closet in a garage area that is being turned into living space.
It's 3/4" particle board, 4x8 sheets (actually an inch oversize) and it has a hard plastic coating on both sides.
Yes, everyone turns their nose up at particle board, but *for some purposes* it's perfect. It's rigid, it's pre-finished, it's easy to cut, you can join it to other pieces by several methods, it makes a secure enclosure...
it's HEAVY which is a plus in some ways but it's a pain to handle.
They even sell edging that matches that you can iron-on to finish the cut edges.
with these panels and a few 1x4s at the seams you could throw a finished-appearing sturdy wall up in a very short time. The stuff also offers *some* R-value.

 

[bimmer1980]

Are you planning to hang anything from the walls?

If not, making a mini-SIP wall work... Glue on OSB to a sheet of foam. Then use a full height 2x lumber to join each 4x8 sheet of Sip together. In this case, you would only have "studs" every 4'.

I have also seen a bonded sandwich of pre-painted steel sheet, foam and steel sheet that is used in industrial settings for panel walls or even building walls on a steel frame building. If you could find some of that on craigslist, it would make for a nice finished wall on both sides.

 

[Bondo]

will that provide enough airtightness and insulation for the climate control $ going into enclosed space?

Donno if it'll work for you, but it's how We do it to heat a work area in a big frozen warehouse up here,.....

 

[rburke65]

A few studs and Visqueen type of plastic sheeting

 

[kbs2244]

Instead of poly, think of used carpeting.
Find a commercial carpeting installer in your area.
They will have acres of rug to get rid of.

Delivery will be free.
It will be in 12 foot rolls,
Wrap it twice around a 2x4 and attach to the rafters.

 

[headwrench]

4x8 sheets of 2" thick stryofoam on wood studs on the outside of the walls....then you have insulated & inclosed in one application......waterproof too....could still put up horizonal 2 x 4 to hang things from on the inside of the walls.....my .02

 

[MushCreek]

4x8 sheets of 2" thick stryofoam on wood studs on the outside of the walls....then you have insulated & inclosed in one application......waterproof too....could still put up horizonal 2 x 4 to hang things from on the inside of the walls.....my .02

This. I once built an enclosed space within a shop this way. I taped the seams with aluminum tape for good measure.

 

[Solpainter]

You need to check building codes. Flammability in a shared building may not allow the use of combusable materials.

 

[homebuilt burner]

So, 40 x 40 is big.

But I was in a warehouse a while ago and for the warehouse office they had brought in a pre-built yard shed. It was about 12 x 24. It was insulated and hvac'ed. Quick and cheap.