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Chevy truck windshield panel fabrication

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A couple weekends ago, I put on a metalshaping demo for some of the Stovebolt guys in the area.

Some of the vintage tin that showed up:


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In order to have a specific fabrication project to work on, we chose the panel just above the windshield of the Task Force trucks (1955-59). This is an area commonly plagued with rust issues due to condensation inside the roof:


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Where they are now reproducing complete cabs, or roof panels with this panel attached, they have yet to market this panel alone. Since I had just set up my bead roller with the tipping wheel, I thought it would be a good candidate for fabricating this panel.

We did start the demo by showing some basic metalshaping, including tuck shrinking using modified vice grips..


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One of the questions posed was whether it was better to use and modify poorly fitting reproduction panels or attempt fabrications from scratch. To demonstrate how "tweaking" of reproduction panel creased edges could be accomplished, the following was shown: Two folds were installed in a panel to simulate a factory bend, and then lines drawn in to move the bend to a new location. Hammering gradually from one side to the other did a fairly good job of moving the crease to the new location.


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Moving on to our project fabrication, we had brought in a sample cab for fitment. As chance would have it, one of the local guys did have one of these panels in NOS form to also use as a pattern. He has it slated for installation in his own project truck later this year.


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Using some rigid flashing material, a template was made of the upper portion of the NOS panel, and then also compared to the sample cab.


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The pattern was transferred to some 18 ga with extra material left on the bottom to make the various folds, and then cut out with snips.


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The upper portion is flanged where the roof skin folds over the leading edge, so the flaging dies were used in the bead roller...


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Next we moved on to the tipping dies for the various folds.


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Some areas were touched up with a shrinker and stretcher to help get the panel to better conform to the front of our sample cab...


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.....and compared to the NOS piece.....


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All ready for install........


I also did an end piece using hand tools only, to show it could be made either way. (Someone shouldn't be intimidated for lack of fancy tools).

Layout of the end only "patch panel"

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To form the upper flange, a shorter piece had been cut out and clamped to the back side, and a slightly dulled chisel used to form the offset.



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The pattern was clamped back onto our work piece to mark the bottom bends/lower edge for cutting.


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Next, as we will be hammering, I chose to use the tipping wheel on all the bend lines simply to make a better mark and keep the marks more visible.


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"Custom anvil"


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Used a body hammer on the flatter areas, and a dead blow in the radius to minimize any stretching....


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First bend at a full 90, seems to pull the panel to fit the radius pretty well.


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Continuing to the other bends, still using the round stock anvil, I did get to where I had to go back to incremental bends again when I got deeper into the radius...


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After a bit of Lancaster shrinking along the edges, it was fitting pretty good..


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The hammered version would need a bit more cleanup work, but a comparison between the two shows it definitely would be a viable option for someone without the bead roller.


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Thanks for the comments guys. I think all the attendees enjoyed the demo and are looking forward to a sequel next year. My main focus was to show them how a panel not readily available could be duplicated rather than using a substandard repair to "hide" the rust holes. After the demo the replacement was donated to the guy who owns the truck in the pictures with the rust holes.
 

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Thank you for taking the time to post up all of the pictures and step by step instruction for all of us to see and learn from.

Very nice work shown here! It gives me something to strive for.

Metal shaping rules!:rocker:
 

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That was really inspiring.

I'm getting a bottle of gas on Monday so I can finish up my welding cart, build a stand for my sheet metal brake, and then turn an engine stand into a bead roller base.

After that, I'll be a bending, banging fool!

-Brad
 

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Many thanx for posting this. I recognise some of those guys and their trucks from the stovebolt site.

Wish I had this thread in front of me when I did my windshield in my '55 Chevy truck in '03. I pretty much learned as I went. After many mistakes and ten months under the shadetree, I had a windshield in the truck again. Some of the fellows at Stovebolt read along.

Windshield Saga - The Bad

Windshield Saga - The Ugly

Windshield Saga - More Ugly

Windshield Epic - Almost Good

Windshield Epic - A Gasket Too Far

Windshield Epic - The Good (Fini)
 
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Thanks guys. I'll update this thread with some of the installation pics when the owner gets it welded in..
 
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hello robert
i am up against the exact same repair. im wondering roughly how long this repair should take?
thanks terry w
 
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Sorry Terry, missed your post. When you say repair, are you referring to fabricating the repair piece, or to include full installation into the cab?
 

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hello Robert
i was referring to fabricating the piece, but i would be interested in the time both to fab and install the piece.
Thanks Terry W
 
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I would allow about an hour to fabricate an accurate template from the original. Then to cut out the panel, form with the bead roller, and any adjustments (shrinking the edges) took approx 2 hours. If you were to use the manual forming method, I think I'd double that amount. Installation will depend on what else in the truck will need replacement, as the rotting is rarely an isolated case. Additional repairs to adjacent panels may be needed. So I'd venture a guess of best case, 3 hours to cut out the old and weld in the new, or worst case, 8 to 10 hours.
 

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Thank you for that info robert. it gives me a much better idea of what im up against/ and roughly what to shoot for
Terry w
 
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As promised, here are some installation details by the owner:


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I got the panel from MPandC and I can tell you guys, It's quite a piece of work. Thought I'd snap some pics and include you on the install.
Here is what I started with.


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And I cut away a rotten area inside the cab. I was alittle worried that this might cause the piece down close to the windshield would get really wiggley while I was working. Access to the inside was nice though


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First off I dusted alittle paint over the spot welds and when dry, I scuffed it off with some 80 grit. Makes the spot welds show up better. Hit then all with an 1/8 bit and then followed up alittle bigger.


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I thought the welds along the windshield edge would be the tough ones. I was wrong, broke most of them loose with a putty knife.


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Comparing new to old:


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First hurdle I ran into was just getting the panel in there. I had to open up the roof edge on the corners so I could roll the new panel in.


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I also cut the panel in half to ease the work load and take the worry away of both corner being where they needed to be.


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Worked out GREAT! About two days of fitting and 15 minutes of welding. Outer panel is all installed and I couldn't be happier with it. Huge thanks to MP&C



Looks like it worked well for him, another Stovebolt on it's way back....
 

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Hey Robert, I'm glad I didn't miss this! Great work, great lesson and thanks for posting! I'll be making quite a few panels for the 27 Model A RPU I just acquired!
 
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Ed, I think I read in one of your posts that you were getting a bead roller. The tipping wheel arrangement shown above works well in folding the flanges for door skins too! (hint-hint) ....as I'm sure your RPU will need some work there...
 
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