China wrench fail
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MagnumForce
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Most entertaining thread I have read here. Is this guy for real? English lit type is one thing, being able to form coherent sentences is another.
Torqline87
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You ALL saw who started the thread, and you ALL came and read it anyway. You don't get to ***** about the syntax. 
With as many cheap wrenches as you own, Sberry, I think it's worth noting how few you destroy every year. I think that's what this thread is about.... maybe?
With as many cheap wrenches as you own, Sberry, I think it's worth noting how few you destroy every year. I think that's what this thread is about.... maybe?
I do that too, I find it as easy as owning and sifting thru a bunch of stuff sits 90% unused for the one piece a guy needs in a decade. I think I spent about a hundred dollars over the years on a few pieces that are not standard wrenches that wouldn't have came in a large Sears set.
Only recently bought some new ratchet wrenches, basically as problem solvers, used them about 10 times. Bought a set of metric 1/2 impact swivels from HF, went a long time without them except for an 18 we bought as a single.
I bought a set of Snap FD, 6 for 75$ in about 79 or so, lost one and accidently bought another cost me 60 to replace and they have been worth it on occasion. its not a bad move to have a few pieces where there is a problem, at the time working on a lot of old stuff but it wouldn't have earned any more to have every one I owned the best. A handful was sufficient.
Only recently bought some new ratchet wrenches, basically as problem solvers, used them about 10 times. Bought a set of metric 1/2 impact swivels from HF, went a long time without them except for an 18 we bought as a single.
I bought a set of Snap FD, 6 for 75$ in about 79 or so, lost one and accidently bought another cost me 60 to replace and they have been worth it on occasion. its not a bad move to have a few pieces where there is a problem, at the time working on a lot of old stuff but it wouldn't have earned any more to have every one I owned the best. A handful was sufficient.
quattroJoe
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I'm not really sure what the original purpose of this thread was... Waste of bandwidth? But to the OP, there is a whooooooole world of tools between the no-name bottom of the barrel Chinese **** and Snap On. Sure paying $50 for a wrench may be crazy, but so is paying $1. I guess the good thing about the $1 wrench is you can afford to have several spares for when it inevitably breaks in the middle of a job...?
greasemonkey44
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I like threads; they are a nice break from the normal stuff.
He works smarter not harder; takes the extra time to avoid working hard or really beating the piss out of the tools.
I understand not spending extra for field work and agriculture tools. Having a wrench on hand beats the heck out of driving 15 minutes back to the shop; ESP when it's to tighten one damn bolt. Having a few extra wrenches in the truck, handful of screwdrivers can save hours a day.
I like to keep doubles or triples at work of the common use items; 3/8 and 1/4 sockets for the most. Beats the hell out of hunting around for where you put it down last.
And I understand the value of a dollar. When I first started I didn't understand the bosses obsession with snap on, and still don't completely get it. I have plenty of snap on pieces; but only after wearing the previous generation of tools down
He works smarter not harder; takes the extra time to avoid working hard or really beating the piss out of the tools.
I understand not spending extra for field work and agriculture tools. Having a wrench on hand beats the heck out of driving 15 minutes back to the shop; ESP when it's to tighten one damn bolt. Having a few extra wrenches in the truck, handful of screwdrivers can save hours a day.
I like to keep doubles or triples at work of the common use items; 3/8 and 1/4 sockets for the most. Beats the hell out of hunting around for where you put it down last.
And I understand the value of a dollar. When I first started I didn't understand the bosses obsession with snap on, and still don't completely get it. I have plenty of snap on pieces; but only after wearing the previous generation of tools down
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nicksnothereman
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Don't get me started on the "SAE" bolts at home depot. I was like "yeah I get to break out the sae wrenches I never use", put the damn wrench on there (I think it was 3/8 hex head) and the gap was HUUUUUUUUGE so out came the metric and a comparative sized metric fit right. Sad face. Chinese hardware issue maybe? But they ain't metric threaded. Dunno. Head scratcher.
toolaholic
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I went to a farm and home center that is a tru value and a agway in a farming community recently. I wasn't impressed w / the quality of tools there. My mechanic friend,who now works for sewage treatment plant, pointed out that farmers loose a lot of tools workin on equipment in the field and are reluctant to pay big $$$ for tools and also that their budget is limited( farming doesn't bring in big $$$). My friend leaves his snap on at home when he goes to work. He uses budget / clearance tools . If you drop a wrench in a treatment pool it's gone. By the time water is emptied tool is corroded. And if I had to bang on a wrench I would obtain a $1 wrench. I'm not banging on my proto sk and facom wrenches. Not even willing to pound on my USA craftsman raised panels. Mabe I'd hit them w/ a rubber mallet.
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OutsideMachinist
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I generally hit on them with a HF rubber dead blow hammer. No the safety man does not approve. That is another discusssion. Sometimes you gotta just get things done. You can do it reasonably safely at same time. Never really bent a good quality wrench. I like to use sliding t bar breaker bars for clearance issues. Bent a few of those even good ones. What is more ignorant double wrenching or hitting wrench with dead blow? I dunno but guilty of both once in a while.
toolaholic
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instead of double wrenching I use these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007Q...c=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_details_o02_s00_i01. But yeah sometimes you have to break a egg to make a omelet.
aussiek2000
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I find it funny that the OP is dead set on saving money by using Chinese tools. But has the most overpriced tractor that money can buy, a John Deere.
Nah, Fendts cost way more money, and depending on the dealer support he has, Deere may be the best and cheapest option.
BTW, I always liked 2640's. Nice size for smaller jobs. I forget were those made in Germany or Iowa?
GirchyGirchy
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A coworker ended up replacing his 3-yo A/C with a new heatpump a couple of years ago after it crapped out. The evap coil sprung a leak and was backordered for weeks...so much for the warranty!
Steinmetz
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"...I really got to like the ones that testify how their lives improved once they started a truck account and pay 100 a week,,,, ya almost brings a tear to my eye. I guess nothing forces a guy to work like payments…".
Ya, so true.
Ya, so true.
redwrench60
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I like good ol' Sberry, he's kinda like that crazy Uncle that you hear stories about who can get away with anything and can't be killed by conventional means.
You know the one I'm talking about. Got drunk and flipped his truck into the lake at 100 MPH? No problem, he walked home.
Hack job 3am roadside repairs to equipment? No problem, it lasted 10 years.
He don't need no fancy HF wrench, he uses his damn teeth. Ya *****.
You know the one I'm talking about. Got drunk and flipped his truck into the lake at 100 MPH? No problem, he walked home.
Hack job 3am roadside repairs to equipment? No problem, it lasted 10 years.
He don't need no fancy HF wrench, he uses his damn teeth. Ya *****.
Labradorian
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Speaking of that one cheap tool that sits 90% of the time and not worth paying a lot of money for. Well when it gets cold outside and you grab that cheap tool, it's true colors shine through. .......
I bought a large adjustable crescent wrench a while back, it was a cheap one made in china jobby and I thought it would be handy for that odd job...... the time came when I needed to remove a 2" ball from my ATV hitch. It was about minus 10 deg C(14deg F) outside and with little pressure on the wrench its handle snapped like a tooth pick!
I ended up going and buying a good brand wrench.cheers
Cool, I finally checked the thread, nice stuff. I really don't care all that much about John Deere, its what we had and started with, not sure it would make a big difference and these series share a huge amount of parts for a long time. I had a fix for a unit the other day cause I had a dollar seal I bought for a whole nuther job. Didn't reman, simply R &R a seal. Filters are the same for decades on some.
I can use the same paint, I am familiar with most of the assemblies, my newest is a 76, they have been painted. Rewired a couple with more modern equipment for start and charge.
Today however was loading out a truck to take a few pieces we don't have duplicates to the other farm. Pulled up to load water on.
I can use the same paint, I am familiar with most of the assemblies, my newest is a 76, they have been painted. Rewired a couple with more modern equipment for start and charge.
Today however was loading out a truck to take a few pieces we don't have duplicates to the other farm. Pulled up to load water on.
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3baygarage
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I got excited for a second, thought this read Chain wrench fail.
MagnumForce
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Fwiw worth I am a farm boy and every tractor had a tool box with essential so we had 5 sets of two crescents a half inch socket set a ball peen, small sledge, pliers, pipe wrench and essential end wrenches so those were generally cheap and older than God. But back home in the barn was all good stuff, well good to me anyway as it was craftsman.
No but it is subject to change. I keep the tractor driving to a minimum, I just did 45 mins of this and its plenty. The disk is right near a grease cycle and I knocked down a national forest so I parked in the shade and will grease it up ready to go should a victim,,, or operator come strolling along. I hate driving tractor, hate is such a strong word I spose but would rather do about anything else. I had enough.
The dealer unloaded it from the truck and I drove it up to the yard when I was 8. No cab, don't own one, not that its a bad idea but I really have a low duty cycle. I have it shaved to a couple hundred hrs a year and only half that is hard work. These old tractors work, you got to be ready to deal with a little fatigued stuff and eat a day once in a while.
I keep on the upside of it the best I can and accept some risk for no payments,,, and even with payments it doesnt always goes right so I figure I am even.
The dealer unloaded it from the truck and I drove it up to the yard when I was 8. No cab, don't own one, not that its a bad idea but I really have a low duty cycle. I have it shaved to a couple hundred hrs a year and only half that is hard work. These old tractors work, you got to be ready to deal with a little fatigued stuff and eat a day once in a while.
I keep on the upside of it the best I can and accept some risk for no payments,,, and even with payments it doesnt always goes right so I figure I am even.
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MagnumForce
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It's 45 years old
It wasn't saving it was making. The contrary retoric is high despite the huge real world benefits. Someone else here hit it on the head, for a few dollars we could duplicate all our hi demand hi duty cycle tools where they were needed without great regards to cost or loss.
I hate losing tools anyway, every once in a while one gets damaged, left rusty etc. We don't tote tools or if we do we take a truck that got the tools. We carry on the golf carts, saved manpower in huge numbers compared if I had to get/share/anticipate etc.
I sent a guy with a handful of old sockets and a Cman ratchet to toss in his bucket to round out some stuff. Did it from extra stock and should send a 1/2 just for giggles. Doesn't look like much but a bunch of junk in an old box but most of it is well proved. No one would think to steal it unless they needed to use. I am going to add a HF bar for 12$ from the flea
Exceller8
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Is the first up if it did? When it fails I'll be telling ya. For no other reason then Craftsman is Snap-On. Not sure if they wrecked that one or not? I always try and not do that. Rather try and be the one is if now.
Exceller8
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Are you keeping up with this thread? I stand behind my post above.
I gave up 2nd page in...
