Chips/Flakes to Rejection and Double/Single Broadcast !!!!!

[CamarosRus]

Asking those in the know for their opinion on applying flakes to refusal/rejection or a percentage less than rejection. I like the cosmetics of full flakes to rejection. I have no idea about the cost.

Also, one company I spoke with, Dur-A-Flex only reccommends doing a double broadcast where you 1) basecoat with colored epoxy 2) flakes 3) apply dura a glaze #4 100% solids epoxy clear coat 4) 2nd coat of flakes 5) Top layer is ARMOR Coat (aliphatic ) Clear

My main shop (13' ceiling) floor is 29' x 45'. I will be installing a two post lift on one side
and one (or two) four post storage lifts on the other side.

Not sure how where I will have bench area and tool box, welder drill press etc etc. maybe in the back area (original two car garage with 8 foot ceiling)

I'm now leaning toward applying the MIRACOTE MVERS primer and most likely the MIRACOTE epoxy system with chips.

Just wanting to findout pros/con of a) double/single broadcast b) flakes to refusal or not ???

Floor is now shotblasted, all material in pics removed

Ive also found a very experienced local professional coating applicator who
will moonlight for me for $20/hr cash

Thanks for your opinion and education

 

[dcs Inc]

Personally I feel a double broadcast of flakes is a waist of money. If you are wanting a thicker application, go with a double broadcast of color quartz. Quartz is much stronger than paint chips. Your clear top coat is the key. Something other than epoxy. Poly aspartics are great. Stronger, UV proof, more chemical and scratch resistant.

 

[CamarosRus]

Thank You Gene, I was thinking smaller size chips either 1/8" or 1/16" or maybe a blend

I understand that a polyaspartic is stronger, but also not advised for amatuer installers
with the short pot life.

 

[dcs Inc]

Hey Chuck. The 1/16" is a little harder to apply. If you don't have your pigmented epoxy evenly placed you can get build up areas. The 1/16" has less of a surface tension and will sink more and build. An epoxy area that is a little thicker will take on more chip.

The 1/8" looks like quartz.... at least to me. Getting the correct blend will trick the eye. Have you been to www.orginol.com and played with their online blending tool? Color granules is their quartz, color flakes are their chips. Keep away from the mica, way too hard to apply. The poly glitter is pretty cool as an additive for 1/8" flakes (10%.... no more) It will give a glisten across the floor when the light hits it.

If you are going to go with an epoxy top coat, try to keep with the tans on your flake/quartz colors. this will hide any ambering of the epoxy due to UV. Good luck!

Polyaspartics are a strange animal. (Our products) require you to keep it in the bucket to delay the set. Epoxy you need to get it out of the bucket to control the set rate. You have a good 20+ minutes to get'er placed which is more than enough time. (Size of mix is directly related to the amount of help on hand).

I'm a full broadcast guy. Tip toeing around and placing a bit here and and a bit there is way to time consuming and you never to get it perfect.

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

Ditto what gene said about the double broadcast, not necessary.

 

[CamarosRus]

Okay so now I have plans to do 1/8" chips to rejection.

Given the expense of Polyaspartic I'm now learning about
APU's or Aliphatic Polyester Urethane's

and is a Aliphatic Polyester Polyurethane the same thing

 

[CamarosRus]

Thought I want full broadcast of TORGINAL 1/8" Hybrid Blend.....going to cost $500+ for 200# of chips.......

Most of the random chip floors I see dont look like even consistant coverage, a few have.

What is the best known method for consistant even application of randow 1/4" chips.

What about a hand hand fertilizer spreader with the little hand crank and whirlygig spinning around ?????

 

[Td_20]

I did 1/16 flakes to rejection in single broadcast and two coats of urethane clear.
Here is how it turned out.

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[CamarosRus]

Td20...........

Ive ordered a hybrid blend of chips whereas there is two sizes of chips as well as multiple colors.........

Did you consider using one coat of clear epoxy first to build mills and then
the polyurethane....as this would cost less ???

As of right now I have ordered a two component, high solids, aliphatic polyester polyurethane to top coat the chips with. Mfg product info sheet says 300-350 sq feet per gallon, but my distributor suggests 275 sq ft per gallon as the flakes with absorb more or consume more (???)

I am concerned that I wont get the mills/thickness I want and will have to buy more polyester for another coat ($$$) OR.................. what If my first coat on the chips was clear epoxy and then top coat with the polyester....??

Have no clue who is reading this thread.....thanks to all for trying to help me

 

[Td_20]

All threads and videos I watch only showed single broadcast.
And I think I need a third coat of the clear, looks patchy in spots.

 

[CamarosRus]

FYI, I am also doing a single broadcast of the TORGINAL Hybrid Sized Chips (combo of 1/4" and 1/16")