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Leeboy20

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This morning our old toilet ( was here when we bought the house) decided to pack it in. Its just the mechanism, but its time to replace it. Is there certain measurements you need to take, before i go looking? Dual flush? $100 home depot special? Any tips before i go buy one? Thanks gang.

Heres the old one.....

 
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IIRC from a similiar thread, Toto is "best", but $$, and many others are acceptable.

In general I prefer elongated bowl and taller than the "normal" budget models.
 

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Ditto on the American Standard Champion 4s. Absolutly NO clogging ever! A real joy.
 
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Not sure of your age but I would get one of the 17" high models rather than the standard height. (a lot easier on the knees) +1 on the elongated bowl also. This is something you will be using a lot, forget about the econo model, get something good.
 

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Not sure of your age but I would get one of the 17" high models rather than the standard height. (a lot easier on the knees) +1 on the elongated bowl also. This is something you will be using a lot, forget about the econo model, get something good.

A Toto Drake ADA toilet is perfect for this.
 

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I've two Kohler Cimmaron Class 5 flushing. Not perfect but a whole lot better than my 35 year old toilets:rocker:They're a dual flush toilet. The minus for me is the tank is over an inch off the wall for some reason with the standard 12" rough in. My old toilets were against the wall. I made a wood spacer to take up the space.
KOHLER CIMMARON
 

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After nearly pulling the trigger on a Toto, I went with a Kohler Highline Comfort Height Elongated Toilet. The Kohler had a sterling recommendation from someone I trust ("you won't be disappointed, it'll flush a snarling poodle"). I was able to buy just the bowl and then get the tank that matched my ADA wall hung sink. Four years later I'm happy and poodle-free. :rocker:
 

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Not sure of your age but I would get one of the 17" high models rather than the standard height. (a lot easier on the knees) +1 on the elongated bowl also. This is something you will be using a lot, forget about the econo model, get something good.

Good advice here. Don't buy a cheap toilet - you will regret it at the worst possible time.

By the way.......you're almost out of toothpaste. :bounce:
 
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Good advice here. Don't buy a cheap toilet - you will regret it at the worst possible time.

By the way.......you're almost out of toothpaste. :bounce:

Thats her toothpaste....mines on the other side. You should have reminded me about the toilet paper being out....I had to do the clench **** cheek walk across the hall...haha ( just kidding) How much does one of these higher end ones cost? Im in Canada as well... So, its either a plumbing store or Home Depot i guess.... Thanks for the input. Great info!
 

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Never did see a need to replace a toilet unless it was cracked. Guess 10 years as a building mechanic made me weird like that. My mother has those crazy Toto toilets that wipe and dry your azz automaticaly with the push of a button. Never tried pushing the buttons...I perfer to clean by **** the old fashoned way. But I agree, elongated for sure and skip the cheap ones.
 

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I pulled up My toilet a couple years ago during a re-model. It is stamped 1943 on the bottom. Works great , even after Bran muffins! If that terlit could talk.......:(:)
 

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Kohler Cimmaron with the Class 6 flush. Elongated or round front.

I install 70 or so of these in a year.
The one complaint will be marking, hey get a brush and be tidy, these toilets flush well, have a good record for initial quality, parts last long and tend to be worry free.

The knock on the Toto is the price and the flapper has to be replaced or checked often.
The flapper can soften and it can slip down into the flush ways rendering the toilet unservicable. If you choose the Toto be aware of this and change out the flapper every 3 years, it is still a good toilet as well, they all have a flaw here or there.
You want a toilet with a large diameter flush way, you do not want a toilet the uses a large flapper that is unsupported for this.
 

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We put an american standard in our house recently and I LOVE the flush. It has a very small tank, 1.2 gallon flush. It is very quiet & fast, will partial flush a #1 if you just push and let go, will move a solid #2 with a full flush. It is short for the wife, elongated for me. The seat is thin plastic as is the lid (don't stand on it!) but those are the only drawbacks. Every time I flush it I'm thankful for my choice. I just tried to pick out one with a low gallon flush to save water, with a strong flush rating. I asked about it and the guy at lowes said it was very highly rated. It was like $150 and I'm happy as a clam. My In-laws put two new ones in this summer too, and they both flush like ****. You have to hold down the lever the whole flush, and it has to be about 2+ gallons.
 

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I don't know a damn thing about toilets. I just know that taller is better, and higher flow rules. I swear, I'm 6 foot tall, and I feel like I'm trying to piss in a tin can some are so close to the ground...
 

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I pulled up My toilet a couple years ago during a re-model. It is stamped 1943 on the bottom. Works great , even after Bran muffins! If that terlit could talk.......:(:)
As the good old toilets disappear you have to make a choice regarding which one of the new 1.6 gal flush. I'm getting a new one installed tomorrow and it may be a Gerber hot rodded with a 3.5 gal flush. I'm more concerned with keeping the lines free and 1.6 won't move the stuff along very far.

It's kinda hard to schedule things around a flush.

"Let's see, I'll hit the head, then take a shower or run the dishwasher.

Damn, took the shower and now have to hit the head again.

Oh wait, I just ran the dishwasher. I'll run a load of clothes.

No, don't have any dirty clothes, did them last night.

I guess I'll flush it a couple times and wash my hands for a minute or so. That'll flow it down."

Or get a toilet that uses enough water.
 
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So you ran out of paper on the roll holder and got your reserve out and now that's almost gone. Come on, man!
 

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Go and purchase a flush valve.

Go and purchase a fill valve.

Go and purchase a tank to bowl kit.

A set of tank bolts.

A reset kit including the bolts, ring and some putty. some caulk.

Rebuild the old girl and abuse her some more.

Unless the ceramic is cracked there is nothing that ever wears of a crapper. Just the parts. For $60 and 3 hours you could have a rebuilt toilet.

Take the family out to dinner and a flick with the rest.

That toilet is not that old.
 
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Leeboy20

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It works fine....Its just the handle plastic piece that broke. Just doesnt have a "AL Bundy..BAAAAWOOOOSH!" Is there any way to make them flush better or anything?



 

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My main one was been acting up(35+ years old), it just doesn't flush like it used to. I replaced the guts, made sure the water jet in the bowl wasn't clogged. It just doesn't 'get' everything in one flush no matter how I adjust the tank. I was thinking of just replacing it with a TOTO because I am tired of messing around with it.
 

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not all toilets even from the same store & manufacturer may perform the same. hd sells a glacier bay comfort height dual flush toilet same box 3 different manufacturers make the same toilet for them, the only way to tell is by the sku # as to which bowl works or not 1 has a 300 map rating one had a 450 map rating last one had an 800 rating - higher the number more **** can be flushed successfully . check out www.map-testing.com for all toilet ratings
 

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You guys using Toto's look in your tanks and inspect that flapper, check it for how it feels, they puff up and look like bubble gum. Not picking on the Toilet, just helping to avoid a maintenance issue.

Let's go through a bit of tuning procedure on a toilet if you want.

The bowl is a relatively trouble free item, the tank has all of the components within it.
If we look at the picture of the above Briggs bowl we see clearly all of the parts within.

We have a fill valve on the left, the water connects to this, this model uses a ball, you adjust a ball float by bending that rod, this one is approx 1 1/2" low. You can install a nice Fluid master fill valve in about 15 minutes.

Next we see the flush vale, that is the white thing in the middle that the flapper seats onto, often the plastic seat surface gets worn dirty or degrades, that whole item can be changed fairly easily if necessary.

Then we see the flapper, the flapper will live about 5 years unless you use products which freshen your flush in which case it lasts 2 or less. In many cases a flapper needs a float to help keep it elevated and give the bowl proper water, this float is like a small foam bobber, it gets placed just above the flapper body on the chain to give maximus flush. For conservation it gets moved to the center, this weakens the flush dwell.

Next we have the rim wash tube or bowl fill tube it needs to securely fit into the hole in the center of the flush valve.

Then we have the flush handle, it needs to be secured firmly without cracking our toilet yet needs to remain secure and not hindered in it's motion.

Those bolts in the bottom are specialty brass bolts that must use a washer between the tank and the bolts, no metal must touch the ceramic or it will crack.

Under that we have a tank to bowl washer that seals the two so the water stays off the floor and a kit to keep the tank and bowl from making contact and cracking either or both. Almost all toilets use this design. It's about 90 years old.
 

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If country of origin is a concern . . . TOTO makes about 1,000 toilets a day just south of Atlanta. It's a Japanese company, but quite a bit of what is sold in North America is made here. Stop by some time; I'll give you a tour. :)

Check out the Terry Love forums for a lot of good toilet information.
 

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If your wife is short you might consider a standard height model. I installed a comfort height model and my wife's feet dangle. She is 5 ft tall and says it is not "comfort height" for her. Works fine for me, though. :)
 

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I went through Home Depot and stuck my fist down each one. I bought the one with the largest "throat" It works great. It was also great fun in the store. Almost as much fun as sitting on them with a newspaper just to see how they feel!
 

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Not sure of your age but I would get one of the 17" high models rather than the standard height. (a lot easier on the knees) +1 on the elongated bowl also. This is something you will be using a lot, forget about the econo model, get something good.

+2......especially when you have boys.....lets the 'dangler' stay inside the bowl easier when they sit down.....If I set on one of those round ones....my 'business' is hitting the rim.....not exactly comfortable....

I was just looking at toilet reviews on Consumers Reports....the American Standard was getting high marks....even the 1.3g version. I currently have a 1.6g toilet and have never had any issues.....with the cost of water going up....I'm ok with the low flow models....
 

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If I set on one of those round ones....my 'business' is hitting the rim.....not exactly comfortable....

I have always had this problem as I'm sure lots of guys do. Who the hell invented the round toilet anyways. And why would they continue to make them this why even today? Makes reading the morning paper a little more work....having to hold your junk out of harms way so to speak...
 

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A round toilet is 27" from rim to rear of tank, an elongated toilet is 29 in most cases.

A lot of installations require the round or the door to the room can not close.
 

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I went with Toto in the last house. One of the main reasons was that when I was in Japan a few years ago there were these neat toilet seats. Toto calls them the "Washlet" seat. Basically it is a bidet function. When you are done with your business, it will wash and dry your backside. Seems comical, but it works for me. Heck, I shave my head. A wash and dry on the other end is pretty cool!:lol:
 

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Are the elongated ones normally longer? The round one I have is 28" deep, but I found an elongate TOTO that advertises 28 1/8". I was going to go with a shorter toilet because the tub is in front and there isn't much room, but I can only find a 26.5" that appears to be out of stock everywhere. At that point I guess I'll just get an elongated one if its only 1/8" larger.
http://www.vintagetub.com/asp/product_detail.asp?item_no=CST734F01&utm_id=IDK1K

The other option is to get a 14" trap depth instead of the 12" I have now, and maybe frame it back into the wall another 2 inches.
http://www.decorplanet.com/ProductD...&gdftrk=gdfV2664_a_7c781_a_7c6949_a_7cCST764S
 
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After nearly pulling the trigger on a Toto, I went with a Kohler Highline Comfort Height Elongated Toilet. The Kohler had a sterling recommendation from someone I trust ("you won't be disappointed, it'll flush a snarling poodle"). I was able to buy just the bowl and then get the tank that matched my ADA wall hung sink. Four years later I'm happy and poodle-free. :rocker:

:spit: Best product review EVER!
 

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I got a Kohler or American Standard a few years ago (I'm not home so I can't check) but I got the taller version with elongated seat and stronger flush. I'm very happy with it. Quiet and no clogging up. Since I had the old 3.5 gallon before, I was worried about the clogging from the horror stories I'd heard over the years. I don't think it's clogged yet. Just be sure to get one with extra flushing power and I think you'll be happy.
 
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