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Cleaning up damaged threads on dual wheel separator tool

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I have a damaged Ken Tool 34549 dual wheel separator tool.


The tool uses a puller foot that travels along a forcing screw against a pusher foot.

At some point in the past, someone else (I swear!) must have used it without proper lubrication and the puller foot became seized to the forcing screw. Eventually, I tried to free it up by using a vise, an impact, lubrication, and heat to no avail. Failing to see any other way to get the components apart, I resorted to cutting off the puller as best I could, but i still knicked the threads in a few places. Once I had it apart, the damage to the steel forcing screw was greater than I anticipated, with a bunch of threads galled up.

I gave it to my buddy, who ran a thread cutter tool along it in his lathe to clean up any of the "mountains" that had balled up. With the damage now underneath the dimensional envelope of the correct threads, the puller foot moves up and down the forcing screw seemingly correctly.

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The puller is large enough that it contacts at least 3 threads of the forcing screw on both sides of the damaged area if centered over the damage. In my estimation, the vehicle I'll likely use this tool with has the "work" area before it gets to the damaged threads. The image shows the tool snug against both wheels - presumably, wheel separation should occur before the puller gets too much into the damaged area. The threads are 7 TPI.

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So here is my question - Is there anything else I should do to the forcing screw before putting it back into cautious service?

Or, am I flirting with too much danger with a compromised part that gets loaded with energy during use?

I know what the Ken Tool liability answer is and I know what the answer would be if I were using this to make a living, but as a hobbyist, I've used this tool once before and it's quite possible that I may never use it again.

Is it better to be lucky or smart?
 
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Worst that is going to happen is the threads strip out of the collar, we had them at work none lasted more then 6 months.
 
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I'd really expect a tool for that purpose to be made with ACME thread. It would be far more robust.

For your arrangement, I'd grease it up and use it. It looks like you'll never reach the damaged threads under load.
 
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Worst that is going to happen is the threads strip out of the collar, we had them at work none lasted more then 6 months.

I'd think the same thing, but when I cut the puller off, I'd say there was more damage to the steel forcing screw than there was to the aluminum puller.

You want to make sure to grease the threads.

Yeah, definitely. I think the damage was done when the last person used it without lubrication.

Thread file would clean the threads but they look a bit worn in diameter

Already been done, it looked considerably worse prior to cleaning up the threads.

If a common thread size/pitch fab a new forcing screw from grade 8 allthread.

I think it's 1-1/8"-7, I'm not sure if that is common or not, but the void in the screw with the ball bearing inside certainly is not.

I'd really expect a tool for that purpose to be made with ACME thread. It would be far more robust.

For your arrangement, I'd grease it up and use it. It looks like you'll never reach the damaged threads under load.

I seem to recall something about Acme threads not playing well with impact forces, maybe that's why it's not Acme thread.
 

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You said, ''I gave it to my buddy, who ran a thread cutter tool along it in his lathe to clean up any of the "mountains" that had balled up.''

Not to hard for your buddy to drill the hole on that same lathe. Add a nut to the opposite end and a little welding and you're back in business.
 
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