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What a fantastic outting with family! And what a great project to share. My oldest son is only 10 and still has trouble staying focused for very long. I'm really looking forward to him getting a little older.

My dad was there when I finished up my Z28, he got in on the first start, a memory I will cherish always!

Enjoyed seeing some.of your rides, thanks for sharing!
 
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Andy: i told my wife you said it was OK to give me a couple extra head slaps for putting her name on GJ saying she does that. :lol_hitti''

since you get 5 extra SATURDAYS every week you sure get the REAL SATURDAY'S activities figured out. starting a VINTAGE TRUCK RESTORATION BUILD with your son and granddaughter would ordinarily be a pretty good day. (BTW I'm really looking forward to this build because one day i'd like a vintage truck on a newer frame.) then i know i'm going to forget a few things cause i read this last night, but i think you let all your cool cars out of the garage and let the family drive them down the road. then shooting several guns and bonding more with your grandsons and i'm guessing a good meal here and there too.

WELL DONE SIR!!

hope you got in a sort of day of rest today and i hope your bride is feeling a bit better too.
 
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What a fantastic outting with family! And what a great project to share. My oldest son is only 10 and still has trouble staying focused for very long. I'm really looking forward to him getting a little older.

My dad was there when I finished up my Z28, he got in on the first start, a memory I will cherish always!

Enjoyed seeing some.of your rides, thanks for sharing!

My son's mom and I divorced when he was 10. What a blunder and a major life event for him I didn't recognize at the time.

But we have to live for today and tomorrow. I asked my son whether we wanted to take the old cars out, he asked if I'd become suddenly senile. I took that as a yes.

Interestingly my 21 year old grandson (who drove the Chevelle Saturday) is a cautious driver. It was a hoot hearing his dad and grand dad encourage him to get on it and feel the power. (Bob: Ever have to encourage your grandson to drive a little harder?)

He does his own mechanic work and we don't fear that he will tear something up just because he can.

Thanks for the kind comments!

Andy: i told my wife you said it was OK to give me a couple extra head slaps for putting her name on GJ saying she does that. :lol_hitti''

since you get 5 extra SATURDAYS every week you sure get the REAL SATURDAY'S activities figured out. starting a VINTAGE TRUCK RESTORATION BUILD with your son and granddaughter would ordinarily be a pretty good day. (BTW I'm really looking forward to this build because one day i'd like a vintage truck on a newer frame.) then i know i'm going to forget a few things cause i read this last night, but i think you let all your cool cars out of the garage and let the family drive them down the road. then shooting several guns and bonding more with your grandsons and i'm guessing a good meal here and there too.

WELL DONE SIR!!

hope you got in a sort of day of rest today and i hope your bride is feeling a bit better too.

Thank you for your kind words!

Did she follow through with a few good slaps when you weren't expecting them?:lol_hitti

When they took Violet down the road I suddenly had extra room in the shop. What a way to clean up!:willy_nil

I'm ready to get on with the Studebaker, but have company today so this will be a non-work day.

I've also got a new snap flask begging to be used.:sad:

My troubles are manageable.

Thanks for stopping in:thumbup::thumbup:
 

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Nice to see the Stude work beginning I look forward to that one. The snap flask is a good idea and I'm sure it'll help your production rate.
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My 2 daughters are both in high school. Neither has shown an interest in cars. The oldest is quite an athlete and the younger one is my pink and purple girl. The younger one will occasionally come out to the shop to help, however. My wife and I figured they would take more interest in cars as my wife used to race hobby stocks at our local dirt track. (She was/is good at it too!)

I love seeing a younger generation taking an interest in all things automotive. Your granddaughter will be light years ahead of the boys in her age group. My oldest is one of the few students in her senior class that can drive a standard transmission, I'm proud of her for that.
 

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I learned to weld plate first, then pipe and sheet metal much later on. It was almost like starting over. Since you already know how to weld, I can only hope you pick it up quicker than I did.I had this bad habit of running it too hot and adding too much filler. Spend the extra time getting the fit as perfect as you can get it on the patch panels,it saves time on the finish work down the road.Good Luck to you!
 

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(Bob: Ever have to encourage your grandson to drive a little harder?)
Andy, my son and my oldest grandson don't need any encouragement at all. This is my grandson's truck and he has put a few upgrades in it. His muffler is long gone, relying on the twice-upgraded turbocharger to "quiet" it down. In a way it's a good strategy: when following him it's easy to know when he's made a turn and is accelerating (the black cloud helps as well).
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After about four transmission rebuilds, with each broken part upgraded to high performance billet pieces, he was able to uncover another weak link -- since replaced with a billet flex plate. I did warn him about the cost of horsepower....
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My oldest is one of the few students in her senior class that can drive a standard transmission, I'm proud of her for that.
OutlawDrifter, that's an important thing for teenage girls to master. No matter how responsible our daughter's friends seemed, we told her two things: 1) never let a drunk friend drive you anywhere (boys, drinking and standard shift often go together) and 2) offer to drive (if you are sober) and call us if they refuse (or you've had too much to drink) and we'll come pick you up -- any time and anywhere. First time is a freebie with no questions asked and no recriminations. It happened -- once (the driver was drunk, she was sober and the group was at the beach).
 

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Greetings Andy
I picked up some heads from the machine shop. I think I to told you about the 1928 Model A they are restoring in the back of the shop. I also thought you asked about pictures. Either way,
Here are some pictures of it.

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Too bad I'm not closer, I'd come and put in the patch panels for you Andy.
It's a piece of cake just don't get in a hurry to finish up the welding.

Keep up posted on your progress

Don
 
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Nice to see the Stude work beginning I look forward to that one. The snap flask is a good idea and I'm sure it'll help your production rate.
JB

Thanks! Got a few too many projects right now, the Massey tractor and the Dodge diesel need to get out of the shop.

Snap flask works great.

You have great helpers! :thumbup:

Thanks Vladimir. They are great kids, my son included.

My 2 daughters are both in high school. Neither has shown an interest in cars. The oldest is quite an athlete and the younger one is my pink and purple girl. The younger one will occasionally come out to the shop to help, however. My wife and I figured they would take more interest in cars as my wife used to race hobby stocks at our local dirt track. (She was/is good at it too!)

I love seeing a younger generation taking an interest in all things automotive. Your granddaughter will be light years ahead of the boys in her age group. My oldest is one of the few students in her senior class that can drive a standard transmission, I'm proud of her for that.

Each person is an individual and their interests are what makes them. However it is nice when they share your interests. It does not always happen. Nobody was interested in melting aluminum Saturday.:dunno:

Driving a standard is getting to be a lost art. I hope I don't forget how.

Thanks for stopping in, great comment!!

Always make them learn what each dash light means, how to fill tires, even better if they can rotate them as well do their own oil changes.

I'm with you on most of that, except I don't know what the Check Engine light means. A quick explanation would be helpful.:willy_nil

And, I never rotate tires, I think that's a tire sales gimmick:willy_nil If I have a front end out of alignment I don't want to ruin four tires before I notice it.:lol:

I learned to weld plate first, then pipe and sheet metal much later on. It was almost like starting over. Since you already know how to weld, I can only hope you pick it up quicker than I did.I had this bad habit of running it too hot and adding too much filler. Spend the extra time getting the fit as perfect as you can get it on the patch panels,it saves time on the finish work down the road.Good Luck to you!

Thank you for the advice. I think fit is it. I haven't TIG welded in so long it will be interesting to see how bad I am. Thanks for commenting.
 
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Andy, my son and my oldest grandson don't need any encouragement at all. This is my grandson's truck and he has put a few upgrades in it. His muffler is long gone, relying on the twice-upgraded turbocharger to "quiet" it down. In a way it's a good strategy: when following him it's easy to know when he's made a turn and is accelerating (the black cloud helps as well).
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After about four transmission rebuilds, with each broken part upgraded to high performance billet pieces, he was able to uncover another weak link -- since replaced with a billet flex plate. I did warn him about the cost of horsepower....
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I was poking you a bit, you had related the stories about his upgraded transmission parts. Of course the cost of horsepower is skewed if somebody else is paying for repairs. At least the horsepower has not damaged any body panels and insurability. It does do that sometimes. Thanks for taking the time to stop by!

OutlawDrifter, that's an important thing for teenage girls to master. No matter how responsible our daughter's friends seemed, we told her two things: 1) never let a drunk friend drive you anywhere (boys, drinking and standard shift often go together) and 2) offer to drive (if you are sober) and call us if they refuse (or you've had too much to drink) and we'll come pick you up -- any time and anywhere. First time is a freebie with no questions asked and no recriminations. It happened -- once (the driver was drunk, she was sober and the group was at the beach).

I've never had to deal with drinking and driving. I feel fortunate. It would take a lot of fortitude to look like a wimp just because you don't want to be killed by a drunk. I believe hardly anybody gets killed in their first try at driving under the influence. It's honing that skill that causes mobility issues. And trying to prove to others how good they've become at it. We must all learn to hold our liquor, mustn't we?

Greetings Andy
I picked up some heads from the machine shop. I think I to told you about the 1928 Model A they are restoring in the back of the shop. I also thought you asked about pictures. Either way,
Here are some pictures of it.

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Great pictures, thanks!

From the front quarter view I thought they were clear coating the patina. Rear shots it looks like they are going to make it a nice restoration. Straight, clean looking car!:thumbup:

Too bad I'm not closer, I'd come and put in the patch panels for you Andy.
It's a piece of cake just don't get in a hurry to finish up the welding.

Keep up posted on your progress

Don

Thanks for the thought. Somehow I know you mean it, and I appreciate that.

When you are good at something it is hard to watch a dufus struggle. Like I plan to do. You guys will just have to watch me struggle (or change the channel).

Thanks for the advice. Interesting your saying "it's a piece of cake". I've believed for many years that when someone really understands something they will tell you it's simple. When they don't, they will tell you it is hard or complex.

I'm planning to learn, so keep the advice coming. I'm assuming TIG with a bit of filler is a good welding process for patch panels. I even bought some E70S-2 rather than using baling wire.

My inclination is to use reclaimed sheet metal for learning on. Any comments there? My first challenge is to make panels that fit.

Thanks for looking in.
 
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My old friend came as planned yesterday. Great to visit, and he was willing to spend time melting aluminum so we used the new snap flask (finally) and made two molds for hammers.

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Notice the sand standing on it's own. We made one core and poured two successful hammer heads. He wanted one so we cut and finished it. Busy visiting and forgot about taking pictures.:sad:

We then took a tractor tour of the farm. Two Farmall M's.

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I was opening the gate. Is that a caboose in the background? No, probably not...

Down in the middle field I had to wait for him to catch up and took another picture. He is driving a Super M/TA for those who know.

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And, yes, it's got the wrong grill.:willy_nil

He was wearing his company Nomex for the foundry work. That was yesterday, today is Saturday!!:rocker::rocker:
 
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So, whose tractor are they? Can't possibly be yours with all that tread on the tires.

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So, whose tractor are they? Can't possibly be yours with all that tread on the tires.

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I guess I need to take some pictures of those pristine tires:lol:


Couldn't help myself, tried out the snap flask again.

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Made two molds again (don't have enough sand for three)

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And the insulators showed up!

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They got the last ceiling in the shop insulated. Ready for hot weather!

Went ahead and made two more hammers, that's four for today.

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Counting my first one, and the one I gave to my visitor, we're up to nine hammer heads.

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Thank goodness it's Saturday tomorrow!
 
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I noticed the nomex first thing of him on the M/TA, sort of an unmistakable outfit. I do have one question though, with some many hammer heads cast when will you start casting the handles? A polished brass handle would look great.
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You couldn't read that they are ConocoPhillips Nomex, I'm sure.

Brass handles, now there's a thought. I'll have to think on that one.

I just like wood so much, and am a bit of a traditionalist. Still, that wood look nice.:eyecrazy:

I have considered a brass handle ****. Both for appearance and for tapping with.
 

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I've never had to deal with drinking and driving. I feel fortunate. It would take a lot of fortitude to look like a wimp just because you don't want to be killed by a drunk. I believe hardly anybody gets killed in their first try at driving under the influence. It's honing that skill that causes mobility issues. And trying to prove to others how good they've become at it. We must all learn to hold our liquor, mustn't we?

Andy, When my son was 3 he and I were hit head on by an impaired 17 yr old girl who was not the wife of her passenger. It put my son in a body cast, me in the hospital and her passenger in the ground. I guess she had beginners luck.

When my kids started riding with others and driving we gave them a similar deal as Bob. A text that they were staying put was also sufficient. My son is a part time DJ at a bar and lives on his own. I have modified the offer that I would take him back to his car the next day since he can afford a cab and has a friend who drives an Uber.
 
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Andy, When my son was 3 he and I were hit head on by an impaired 17 yr old girl who was not the wife of her passenger. It put my son in a body cast, me in the hospital and her passenger in the ground. I guess she had beginners luck.

When my kids started riding with others and driving we gave them a similar deal as Bob. A text that they were staying put was also sufficient. My son is a part time DJ at a bar and lives on his own. I have modified the offer that I would take him back to his car the next day since he can afford a cab and has a friend who drives an Uber.

Thanks for your comment. I'm glad your son is here to be cared for!:thumbup:

I didn't get much done today. Had a friend come to pick up a baler he bought last winter. Bob helped us get it off the ground and put wheels on it. He also just picked up the tongue to put it on the truck hitch. Nice to have a strong armed friend.

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A comment was made on the nice tires on my tractors. Here's the sidewall of one tractor my friend was driving.

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I bought the tires new on the tractor I was driving. They are now well worn.

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And when it was pretty new a skid plate came off my Haybine. Next time around the field it punctured the two left tires.:mad:

I put a boot in both tires, but the one in the big tire slipped.

Per usual, I decided to wait until failure to fix it. Not yet.

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That's it for today!!
 
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Thanks for the thought. Somehow I know you mean it, and I appreciate that.

When you are good at something it is hard to watch a dufus struggle. Like I plan to do. You guys will just have to watch me struggle (or change the channel).

Thanks for the advice. Interesting your saying "it's a piece of cake". I've believed for many years that when someone really understands something they will tell you it's simple. When they don't, they will tell you it is hard or complex.

I'm planning to learn, so keep the advice coming. I'm assuming TIG with a bit of filler is a good welding process for patch panels. I even bought some E70S-2 rather than using baling wire.

My inclination is to use reclaimed sheet metal for learning on. Any comments there? My first challenge is to make panels that fit.

Thanks for looking in.

Andy
I did mean it!!! I would love to spend some quality work time out on the farm.

Tig welding is a bit more challenging than mig welding. I wouldn't hesitate to use reclaimed sheet metal for the patch. Best tip I can offer is take your time and get the patch to fit before starting to weld it in and secure it in place so it doesn't move on you.

Good luck

Don
 

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Andy: sounds like you will do fine and with Don's ear and eyes helping i bet you might be surprised how well you will do. speaking of the work you need to do on the old Studebaker turning into a Dodge something did your grand daughter name it yet?

so how does this sound or is it even a possibility. how about a full on hammer handle and all made out of ALUMINUM?

i like the snap boxes you made and are you able to capture as much sand as you would if you left the form on?

i swear you've saved hundreds of thousands on tires just seeing what you can do with some that others would toss.

hope you had a great SATURDAY cause i did.

cheers
 

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Thanks for clarifying the tire misunderstanding Andy. I'm glad to see that I wasn't alone in questioning who's tractors you were driving.

Did you ever say how hot your furnace gets? If so, I missed it. I'm the curious type. I'm also wondering if you are planning on making brass or just using some for another project? I figured you're the type that would experiment and show us the difference between a high copper/ low zinc and vise versa.:dunno:

I'm glad tomorrow is Saturday.
 
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Andy
I did mean it!!! I would love to spend some quality work time out on the farm.

Tig welding is a bit more challenging than mig welding. I wouldn't hesitate to use reclaimed sheet metal for the patch. Best tip I can offer is take your time and get the patch to fit before starting to weld it in and secure it in place so it doesn't move on you.

Good luck

Don

It would be a blast to have you come visit.

I do a fair amount of oxyacetylene welding and the little TIG I did was easy. Seems the way to go for me. I have a bit more trouble controlling MIG and don't have a MIG rig, just a cheap Lincoln flux core. I'm not very good with it.

I'm trying to listen to "get a good fitup" and will strive to do that.

I'm expecting my welding to look pretty tacky.

Thanks for stopping in! When you get to the Texas panhandle just pop on over!

Andy: sounds like you will do fine and with Don's ear and eyes helping i bet you might be surprised how well you will do. speaking of the work you need to do on the old Studebaker turning into a Dodge something did your grand daughter name it yet?

so how does this sound or is it even a possibility. how about a full on hammer handle and all made out of ALUMINUM?

i like the snap boxes you made and are you able to capture as much sand as you would if you left the form on?

i swear you've saved hundreds of thousands on tires just seeing what you can do with some that others would toss.

hope you had a great SATURDAY cause i did.

cheers

No word yet on dodging a studious baker's name.

I like the idea of an all aluminium hammer! Might just have to do that, thank you:thumbup:

Sand recovery is the same. All the sand makes it back to the molding table, and it all goes back in the pile. The hard part reconstitutes when you add a little water.

Not sure what I may have saved on tires. My new 94 Dodge I bought in Dec 93. By not rotating tires I got 100,000 miles out of the rears. This is a rear wheel drive vehicle with a heavy diesel engine. One December my wife noticed the rear tires were almost bald, truck had about 96,000 miles. We were traveling to out of town jobs in the truck. She says "are you intending to drive on bald tires in the winter to try to get 100,000 miles on them?" Busted!!

I already said I got 100,000 miles out of them. But not much more:willy_nil

I do still have those tires:willy_nil:willy_nil:willy_nil

Thanks for the ideas!!

Well the hammers are looking worth their weight in aluminium. Almost time for a brass test ?

GB

I really need to get my new furnace running before I try to cast brass. And to run it I need to cure the parts. And to cure the parts I need to get my PID wired up and operating. And to do that I need to make a box that doesn't look too bad, so I've been casting aluminum.

So, they don't make tires like they used to.

Do they not still mold them and then vulcanize them?:dunno:

Interestingly old tires with hard, even cracked, rubber last better driving over stobs and sharp rocks. They really are better.

Thanks for clarifying the tire misunderstanding Andy. I'm glad to see that I wasn't alone in questioning who's tractors you were driving.

Did you ever say how hot your furnace gets? If so, I missed it.

Maximum propane flame temperature is above 3,600 F. Quality of insulation (not good in my brick furnace, too many air gaps) and proper mixture of air a propane affect the maximum temperature attainable. The other major factor is time. As you add energy temperature continues to go up. I get 1,500F or 1,600 pretty easily, and can probably get 2,400F in the brick furnace. I'm hoping to get 2,800F (cast iron melting) in my new furnace. Without waiting 8 hours for it go get there:eyecrazy:

I'm the curious type. I'm also wondering if you are planning on making brass or just using some for another project? I figured you're the type that would experiment and show us the difference between a high copper/ low zinc and vise versa.:dunno:

I'm glad tomorrow is Saturday.

I would like to make some brass. I already have some zinc to blend with. zinc boils at a low temperature so making it is a bit challenging. Aluminum is also a possible use for alloying copper to make aluminum bronze.

No shop time today. I took Bob down and left him at my son's house. He is going to cut some trees and do a little earthwork. I'll miss him.

I also was my oldest grandson's birthday. And my son needed some calves castrated. So we did that then went to eat.

Late in the day, we were back home, and my friend whose dad ran a ferrous foundry and a nonferrous foundry came by. He has a lot of foundry experience and will get me in touch with some good suppliers. Also gave me some pointers. He wants to sell me some antique foundry equipment from the ferrous foundry, and take me on a detailed tour of the non-ferrous foundry. Suit me!!:thumbup:
 
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Andy: i'd love an all ALLUMINUM HAMMER with ANDY'S MADE IN USA cast in it to use. maybe if you make me one and hang it on your peg board above your bench i'll pick it up in person some day to save shipping costs (yes i'm frugal too). let me know the cost and maybe one made of all brass or bronze might be COOL TOO.

speaking of CLEANING UP if you find one or a few of these big ROTOBINS you should buy them if they don't break the bank. new they are about $3,000, but I found one that the owner was tired of using and moving that was a fair amount cheaper. here's a link to a new one in case you can't find any used ones in your area so you can see the specs on it. each level can hold up to 2,000 pounds in the 10 bins so the 5 bins can hold up to 10,000 pounds. i think i had close to 1500 pounds on one level at my storage unit and it rotated around almost like it was empty. it's a bit of a pain in the **** to take apart, move around and set up cause it's so big but i bet a fork lift would make it a piece of cake or maybe BOB with some forks would do well too.

http://www.fsindustries.com/more_info/rotabins/rotabin_revolving_shelf_units.shtml

i've moved it three times and i think i finally have a good spot for it. it takes up a big space in my 9x15 portion of our 2 car garage, but my wife actually helped me move it and approves of it. i think it will also help find a spot for those items that always end up on one of my benches and is my FSD issues.

have a great SATURDAY and i'll try to do the same!
 

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Your welds on sheet metal will be tacky. I hope they will be. lol
So I've heard of Rocky Mountain oysters. I've never heard of Oklahoma beef balls.


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Fresh calf fries no doubt. :thumbup:
JB

Actually these little guys got banded. No calf fries.

Andy: i'd love an all ALLUMINUM HAMMER with ANDY'S MADE IN USA cast in it to use. maybe if you make me one and hang it on your peg board above your bench i'll pick it up in person some day to save shipping costs (yes i'm frugal too). let me know the cost and maybe one made of all brass or bronze might be COOL TOO.

speaking of CLEANING UP if you find one or a few of these big ROTOBINS you should buy them if they don't break the bank. new they are about $3,000, but I found one that the owner was tired of using and moving that was a fair amount cheaper. here's a link to a new one in case you can't find any used ones in your area so you can see the specs on it. each level can hold up to 2,000 pounds in the 10 bins so the 5 bins can hold up to 10,000 pounds. i think i had close to 1500 pounds on one level at my storage unit and it rotated around almost like it was empty. it's a bit of a pain in the **** to take apart, move around and set up cause it's so big but i bet a fork lift would make it a piece of cake or maybe BOB with some forks would do well too.

http://www.fsindustries.com/more_info/rotabins/rotabin_revolving_shelf_units.shtml

i've moved it three times and i think i finally have a good spot for it. it takes up a big space in my 9x15 portion of our 2 car garage, but my wife actually helped me move it and approves of it. i think it will also help find a spot for those items that always end up on one of my benches and is my FSD issues.

have a great SATURDAY and i'll try to do the same!

Pattern for an all cast hammer is in the works. No progress yet!

Those rotating bins are nice. I don't think I have room for one, though:headscrat

Your welds on sheet metal will be tacky. I hope they will be. lol
So I've heard of Rocky Mountain oysters. I've never heard of Oklahoma beef balls.


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Lot's of Rocky Mountain Oysters grown in Oklahoma. But we band all our calves and don't have any.

Well, there's no beating Schweddy Balls.

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Thanks for stopping in, guys!

No shop time today, but we did make contact with a guy selling a 53 Willys pickup. Might be a nice addition to the farm trucks. Was so excited I forgot to take a picture.:(

Did get some supplies to finish the stairway to the attic.

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After several ideas I decided to make a simple fold up door. It's not much of an issue in summer, heat rises, but this winter this opening has to be closed if I have a hope of heating the shop.

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I gave up on the ultrasonic thickness tester I was trying to repair. I wanted to determine the uncorroded thickness of the shell on my son's floor lift. By luck, the pipeline that crosses my place has sprung a leak. They are going to send an inspector to measure the lift can for me.:thumbup:

Hope to get a little shop time tomorrow!
 
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Hey Andy, I'm still following along - I just haven't had time to comment for a while.

It looks like you could build a couple of walls around the attic "access hole" and have a conventional (vertical) door at the top of the stairs - which would also possibly avoid a potential "falling to your untimely death" experience.
 

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BB: you know i was thinking the same exact thing and putting a door on it, but that might limit Andy too much on what size items he can put up there.

Andy: not enough space for a ROTOBIN???? :bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

looking forward to the full on aluminum one piece hammer. it will go nicely with my aluminum pipe wrenches. if you want to take a gander at some of the stuff i find and make comments serious or funny here's the link:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=334410
 
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Hey Andy, I'm still following along - I just haven't had time to comment for a while.

It looks like you could build a couple of walls around the attic "access hole" and have a conventional (vertical) door at the top of the stairs - which would also possibly avoid a potential "falling to your untimely death" experience.

That was one option. Unfortunately that limits access to the right side as shown in the picture from above. I could correct that by removing some shelving and making a new passageway on the right. I'll take another picture.

Another option was the reverse: a door at the bottom with walls down to the stair stringers and install kick plates.

Both those are some work, so Lazy Andy copped out with a plan to lay insulation board across the opening, then that morphed into plywood panels, one laid in place and the other hinged like a cellar door. If I don't like it I can do it right later when I have more time.:willy_nil

BB: you know i was thinking the same exact thing and putting a door on it, but that might limit Andy too much on what size items he can put up there.

Andy: not enough space for a ROTOBIN???? :bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

looking forward to the full on aluminum one piece hammer. it will go nicely with my aluminum pipe wrenches. if you want to take a gander at some of the stuff i find and make comments serious or funny here's the link:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=334410

A door would be my preference.

You would have to walk through with me and show me where I could put a rotobin:D May as well come on down.

I was thinking "Drives It Far" is a suitable name for a hammer. N'est-ce pas?

Andy, the stairs look great..:thumbup:

There is no doubt about it you get great mileage out of your tyres..:thumbup:

So when does the Willys arrive???

Regards

The Willys is a totally frivolous unnecessary addition to the farm. It would be a total waste of money.

Next week.

We'll see. This is in a town two towns over. Saw it on my way home from my son's and kept thinking about it. Went back and looked and it needs some work. It is also on a '85 Ford 4x4 chassis with a 302 engine. I would rather have a stock truck, what is it with throwing away perfectly good running gear from the 40's and 50's? I'm doing it too:sad:

That being said, it looks good outside. Wheels are where they are supposed to be and it has lots of ground clearance. No A/C. The guy was not there.

I called later and I know him. He bought a house from me in 2003 and abandoned it a couple of years later, but told me and gave me a deed back. He said "not for sale", I said what is your interesting price, he said make offer so I went down from what I might have paid and he was very interested.:sad: I went in too high:sad::sad: But it is not a bad price.

I need to go back and look at it.

Maybe pictures would be in order.

Thanks for the visits guys!
 
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Hey Andy, I'm still following along - I just haven't had time to comment for a while.

It looks like you could build a couple of walls around the attic "access hole" and have a conventional (vertical) door at the top of the stairs - which would also possibly avoid a potential "falling to your untimely death" experience.

Actually this picture shows the access issue pretty good.

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At the top of the stairs there's a wall to the left and a 2 ft stepup to the right. On the right, below, is a ten ft ceiling for tractor repair (the front of the machine shop) which inhibits access that direction.

I got the stair opening framed and one panel put in place. The rest of the opening will be a hinged door. This first panel can be removed for hoisting large objects up and down.

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I got the door cut out but my heart was not in it. I called the guy about the Willys and went to see him and take a better look.

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Nice Willys logo on the tailgate.

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I like the wide stance in the front:thumbup:

It didn't go well. I spent money. My child's inheritance.

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Front tires are too wide for the trailer. The seller thought he could load it with one wheel on the rail but it slipped off and wedged it in.

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Side rails are bowed.

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He had several extra parts including a grill and RF fender.

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But it made it home safely, Hi Shorty!!

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I backed it right off with no incident (I didn't have to worry about steering).

Profile. Passenger window is broken.

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Aftermarket gauges, but they seem to fit.

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Late in the day the inspector for the gas company made it by and measured my lift barrel at 0.250" minimum wall.:thumbup:

Well that's it for today. I'm excited and tired!!
 
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Is that a caboose or you're just happy to buy a Willys. Cool pickup.

A friend has a barn with an air conditioned office upstairs. His solution to seal the stairs was to hinge the hatch from the narrow end. When hatch is open, it is parallel to the stairs. He uses a cable and counter weight to make lifting easier.


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