Above 1200 Sq/FT Cleaning Up My Shop

[oldironfarmer]

And while I still have 60+ vehicles on the other side of the fence it used to be 60+ on the other side of the fence and 19 on this side of the fence!!

Bruce

You have more cars than I have tractors! Trust me, I know how you feel, but you seem to be getting them recycled much faster than me.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Depending on what the P/N is they may have value here....http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php You probably could start out after you register with some questions about what the came from originally. I don't know how they are over there on trying to sell stuff, but they do look like the ones that came on the WS6 package cars . Good Luck.

Thanks for the visit, and especially for the link. And the advice! I need to look for part numbers on them. All I know at this point is that they are 8-inches wide. Seems a lot like this are 7-inches.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Moving right along, congrats on making progress. Also I spoke with my father and he said he would pass on the wheels.
JB

Thanks for the visit! I'd miss the wheels if they ever get sold

I'm pleased with the progress, too. I seem to be very motivated and am eager to get the building enclosed. After reading posts on GJ, I really want to set up a lot more storage and truly get what I want to store weeded out. I've concluded I need to get rid of a lot of tools

 

[oldironfarmer]

It was HOT today. Only mid nineties, but I was sweating like a fish (you know how wet they get). So after the concrete was placed and I took a break, I got the vapor barrier down, trimmed, and fit. Spread out some rebar. It's going to lay down nicely: I need 14 ft wide, so I have 6 ft drop. I can trim two down to 14 ft, then cut one in half to make two 10's, and splice the 6's and 10's into 14 ft with a 2 ft lap. That will work with minimal cutting and no waste.

SIL promised to come tomorrow to level the gravel to finished grade BOC.

Then more form work, vapor barrier, and rebar. Concrete finisher says late next week or early the following week.

One piece at a time this is going to get finished!

 

[dlcwent]

No one will accuse you of being lazy Andy. Great progress. And it's always "only one piece at a time"

 

[designr]

Great Progress!!! This thread could also be called: "Cleaning up my shop - and philosophical discussions on space, stuff, and mind set." In my own progress to clean up and make a more useful space, some "rules" or principles I started with have proven to help with decision making (like no permanent storage of stuff on the floor - everything has to have a home). BTW not there yet. I see you have made some of those type of principles - for me it helps keep focus and pick out the "right" approach (for my goals) to solving a problem out of the 10 solutions I come up with!

Keep up the great work and thanks for sharing.

 

[designr]

BTW - I also was inspired by garages on this site - 12 Gage Garage for example (I have a smallish space). It was referenced on another site -spent a few hours reading and made the decision to get to work on mine. That was earlier this year. Then I realized later I had originally joined GJ in 2011 !!! and had not been back since. That is why I have 3, no now 4 posts... in five years.

 

[nahfwt]

You are making great progress on the shop! I know how hard it is to really clean things up, truly inspirational.

 

[egnorant]

You have more cars than I have tractors! Trust me, I know how you feel, but you seem to be getting them recycled much faster than me.

Before I did my cleanup inflow was great but outflow was sparse! The reason I did my cleanup was that inventory was spreading like a glacier and choking even my normal stuff like oil changes and washing the car.

Once you make your space workable, the projects will flow. I still have to balance out cleanup and organization with project work...even the not fun stuff.

Working on a convertible top hits a glitch and you have realized that a redo of the lights would be great so I need material (and a non-deathtrap ladder) so you end up hacking away bloodthirsty vines to clear an area full of broken flower pots and hog fencing while the radio plays "I don't like Spiders and Snakes". Motivation and focus will take a few hits and goals get extended but you are still smiling because you remember the difference .

Bruce

 

[BonzoHansen]

Thanks for the visit, and especially for the link. And the advice! I need to look for part numbers on them. All I know at this point is that they are 8-inches wide. Seems a lot like this are 7-inches.

i believe the 8s are the more desirable ones. Those are the ones I'd want if I had one of those cars.

 

[oldironfarmer]

No one will accuse you of being lazy Andy. Great progress. And it's always "only one piece at a time"

Interesting comment. If I had a cattle brand, it would be a Lazy A, or maybe a Lazy Rocking A. Of course having owned donkeys, one could interpret that as a Lazy A$$.

I have a morbid fear of being lazy, unfortunately, what goes along with that is being accused of an inability to relax.

So, I said that to say this: My nickname for myself is "Lazy Andy".

How did you know? Thanks for stopping by.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Great Progress!!! This thread could also be called: "Cleaning up my shop - and philosophical discussions on space, stuff, and mind set." In my own progress to clean up and make a more useful space, some "rules" or principles I started with have proven to help with decision making (like no permanent storage of stuff on the floor - everything has to have a home). BTW not there yet. I see you have made some of those type of principles - for me it helps keep focus and pick out the "right" approach (for my goals) to solving a problem out of the 10 solutions I come up with!

Keep up the great work and thanks for sharing.

Thanks for the comments!

Isn't it funny how philosophical discussions (in this case, on orderliness) may not bring out much of anything new, but by putting it in black and white, you can get a better grasp of the issues.

Number one principle, for me, is having a place for each item to be kept in the shop. Maybe the floor is an appropriate place for some things (like a refrigerator ) but it seems to me that there are always things in the shop or coming into the shop which just have no space allocated. I've got a four jaw chuck and an indexing table on the floor right now

Thanks for stopping by!

 

[oldironfarmer]

BTW - I also was inspired by garages on this site - 12 Gage Garage for example (I have a smallish space). It was referenced on another site -spent a few hours reading and made the decision to get to work on mine. That was earlier this year. Then I realized later I had originally joined GJ in 2011 !!! and had not been back since. That is why I have 3, no now 4 posts... in five years.

I'm inspired to have a 16 gauge garage. Not a 12 gauge, but much better than 18 gauge!

 

[oldironfarmer]

Before I did my cleanup inflow was great but outflow was sparse! The reason I did my cleanup was that inventory was spreading like a glacier and choking even my normal stuff like oil changes and washing the car.

Once you make your space workable, the projects will flow. I still have to balance out cleanup and organization with project work...even the not fun stuff.

Working on a convertible top hits a glitch and you have realized that a redo of the lights would be great so I need material (and a non-deathtrap ladder) so you end up hacking away bloodthirsty vines to clear an area full of broken flower pots and hog fencing while the radio plays "I don't like Spiders and Snakes". Motivation and focus will take a few hits and goals get extended but you are still smiling because you remember the difference .

Bruce

Inventory was spreading like a glacier. WOW!!!!

My life in six words!

"end up hacking away bloodthirsty vines to clear an area full of broken flower pots and hog fencing while the radio plays "I don't like Spiders and Snakes" "

Now you see why I don't have donkeys any more. I LMAO!

 

[oldironfarmer]

And I didn't miss the sage advice, more work came out of a clean, organized work space.

 

[oldironfarmer]

HOT again today. Only 95F but very high humidity. Felt like I was vacationing in Louisiana in August.

My SIL came over to finish grading the portion of the shop which is not yet covered. As a bonus he brought his two grandsons (I call them great grandsons).

They helped me tie rebar and get it on chairs.

The old boy got the base to within 1/4" of our goal. Close enough for me, and most of it was dead on.

He finished and we all spread plastic, rebar, and tied.

The slight boy is 12, the other is 9. Good kids, their grandfather watches them most of their time outside school.

Done for the day,

I'm out of town for two days, then can get on the final formwork. It was really nice to put my tie wire hook back in the trowel bucket

Excavating (except for small places) DONE
Cutting rebar DONE
Tieing rebar DONE

Those little milestones feel good!

 

[BBChevro]

...My nickname for myself is "Lazy Andy".
...

"Lazy Andy"?? ...I don't buy it.

I miss a day and you've got it all ready for concreting.

...but it seems to me that there are always things in the shop or coming into the shop which just have no space allocated...

That's one of my big problems too - when I started my clean-up a couple of years ago, I managed to create a (very small) patch of floor space.
Then we acquired the F100 and it came with 2 sets of wheels & tyres (sorry, "tires" to you guys across the pond), then I found an ad on Gumtree (our equivalent to "Craigslist") for a set of near-new Coopers on F100 rims - guess where the 8 extra wheels ended up?

Cheers

 

[dlcwent]

"Lazy Andy"?? ...I don't buy it.

I miss a day and you've got it all ready for concreting.


Cheers

I've got to second that opinion. Mark hit the nail on the head.

 

[1/2 Cup]

I've got to second that opinion. Mark hit the nail on the head.

As above, going great guns Andy........

Great to see it is a family project as well.

 

[Rex_A_Lott]

I just found your thread today and enjoyed reading through it. I have to say I admire the way you are plugging right along in the heat! No thoughts of calling you lazy here.
I also like the way you think about not letting things go to waste. I missed my big chance to scrap out a few years back when the price was way up, but most of the stuff I have I cant run down to Wal-Mart and replace.
As far as not quite being as organized as Jack Olsen, well , I'm not taking anything away from him, he has done a remarkable job with his 12 gauge garage, but, after all , he only has one old car and its not very big.
Carry on, sir, looking forward to updates.

 

[oldironfarmer]

"Lazy Andy"?? ...I don't buy it.

I miss a day and you've got it all ready for concreting.

Well, I don't really think I'm lazy, but I use that nickname for myself to help keep it that way. The Bible says "a little rest, a little folding of the hands, and poverty is upon you", I didn't look it up but that is the gist. Thanks for the support!

That's one of my big problems too - when I started my clean-up a couple of years ago, I managed to create a (very small) patch of floor space.
Then we acquired the F100 and it came with 2 sets of wheels & tyres (sorry, "tires" to you guys across the pond), then I found an ad on Gumtree (our equivalent to "Craigslist") for a set of near-new Coopers on F100 rims - guess where the 8 extra wheels ended up?

Cheers

We certainly struggle with the same motivations/inhibitions!

 

[oldironfarmer]

I've got to second that opinion. Mark hit the nail on the head.

Thanks for the visit and comments!

As above, going great guns Andy........

Great to see it is a family project as well.

Thanks for the support, my goal is to not just build on, who does not like that? But to continue with true cleanup and organization, especially the very difficult task (for me) of deciding what should be in the shop, then creating an uncrowded storage for those items. I spend a fair amount of time looking for what I know I have, and along the way always discover something I've forgotten I had. Sometimes, finding something I wish I have, and didn't know it. When I looked for a tie wire twist tool, for example, I found two.

The boys will help sometimes, but their attention span is short. My SIL (their grandfather) took them fishing after the rebar was tied. It was not a carrot and stick thing, they didn't know until they had finished without complaining. They are learning about construction which they won't realize until later.

I have promised them a home made go cart, so I need to fulfill that promise before they finish college

 

[oldironfarmer]

I just found your thread today and enjoyed reading through it. I have to say I admire the way you are plugging right along in the heat! No thoughts of calling you lazy here.
I also like the way you think about not letting things go to waste. I missed my big chance to scrap out a few years back when the price was way up, but most of the stuff I have I cant run down to Wal-Mart and replace.
As far as not quite being as organized as Jack Olsen, well , I'm not taking anything away from him, he has done a remarkable job with his 12 gauge garage, but, after all , he only has one old car and its not very big.
Carry on, sir, looking forward to updates.

Yeah, can't take anything away from Jack. I struggle with what I cannot replace, and what I will never need. I have a couple of hundred 21 ft pieces of 5/8" sucker rod. It is a lifetime supply, but hard to get rid of any.

Thanks for the support!!!!

 

[egnorant]

Cleanup can be an eye opener of strange finds. I just get shocked at some of the brand new stuff I find. Found a new and much better quality pressure regulator and water separator setup after buying one for the shop. You always expect finding multiples of some items like half full cans of WD-40 and different tools but sometimes it is just strange! 4 post hole diggers, 13 funnels and 17 hacksaws have me wondering.

If I ever visit your shop I won't be bringing a bottle of wine, but expect a can of grease, a magnet on a telescoping stick and a fun selection of individual packets of dielectric grease, Loc-Tite, superglue and anti-seize in 3 different varieties!

Might even bring a go-kart frame as I have uncovered 3 and can see at least 2 more.

What does a tie wire twister look like, I might have one and just not recognize it. I did find a couple of things that my brother identified as safety wire tools, but they may be different.

Note: I just looked up tie wire pliers..same thing! Got plenty of wire too!

Bruce

 

[Bob Heine]

What does a tie wire twister look like, I might have one and just not recognize it. I did find a couple of things that my brother identified as safety wire tools, but they may be different.

Bruce

Bruce, a tie wire twister is a tool most frequently acquired while buying more tie wires. Using it once justifies the price. I found it cheaper than replacing the glove (and bandaiding shredded fingers) from twisting ties by hand).

 

[Spdstr280Z]

Wow, amazing progress, and I can only dream of that kind of space ! On the Pontiac wheels, I am far from a Pontiac guy, actually I'm far from an American car guy, but I am a child of the 70's and had friends with these cars. I would not throw those wheels away. The deep lip confirms your measurement of 8", and I'm pretty sure they are far less common than the 7" versions with no lip. They were called "snowflakes".

Couple on eBay right now at $100 and $150...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Tra...ash=item3f625184af:g:El4AAOSw9ZdXKZkz&vxp=mtr

Jason

 

[oldironfarmer]

Cleanup can be an eye opener of strange finds. I just get shocked at some of the brand new stuff I find. Found a new and much better quality pressure regulator and water separator setup after buying one for the shop. You always expect finding multiples of some items like half full cans of WD-40 and different tools but sometimes it is just strange! 4 post hole diggers, 13 funnels and 17 hacksaws have me wondering.

It's a little embarrassing to forget what you have already in the shop. 17 hacksaws? Now you've gone too far

If I ever visit your shop I won't be bringing a bottle of wine, but expect a can of grease, a magnet on a telescoping stick and a fun selection of individual packets of dielectric grease, Loc-Tite, superglue and anti-seize in 3 different varieties!

Might even bring a go-kart frame as I have uncovered 3 and can see at least 2 more. Come on down! I can use some extra stuff!!!

What does a tie wire twister look like, I might have one and just not recognize it. I did find a couple of things that my brother identified as safety wire tools, but they may be different.

Note: I just looked up tie wire pliers..same thing! Got plenty of wire too!

Bruce

Thanks for visiting!

 

[oldironfarmer]

Bruce, a tie wire twister is a tool most frequently acquired while buying more tie wires. Using it once justifies the price. I found it cheaper than replacing the glove (and bandaiding shredded fingers) from twisting ties by hand).

That's my wire twister, I'm not sure how many companies make them, but they all seem to look alike. Somehow I acquired a complete bag of twist wire on a roll, probably 10,000 pieces threaded on to two wires. But if I have a little job, I still use short pieces of baling wire. Old habits die hard.

Thanks for contributing!

 

[oldironfarmer]

Wow, amazing progress, and I can only dream of that kind of space ! On the Pontiac wheels, I am far from a Pontiac guy, actually I'm far from an American car guy, but I am a child of the 70's and had friends with these cars. I would not throw those wheels away. The deep lip confirms your measurement of 8", and I'm pretty sure they are far less common than the 7" versions with no lip. They were called "snowflakes".

Couple on eBay right now at $100 and $150...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Tra...ash=item3f625184af:g:El4AAOSw9ZdXKZkz&vxp=mtr

Jason

Thanks for the kind words. I do like my shop, and really want it to be cleaner. I think I have to do that myself

Sure would like to sell those wheels, but guess I have to list them to sell them

 

[oldironfarmer]

I had a life changing event this week, my mom passed away at 95 years old. We went to the funeral and attended to some associated business, but also got to see a car collection. I was really impressed.

They had lots of classics and rare vehicles, but I'm most drawn to the street rods:

Beautiful Ford panel

1948 Chevy COE 5 window car carrier

1946 Chevrolet COE car carrier (not certain on the year)

Bruce Leven's 1955 White 3000 COE car carrier (this is not a copy)

1946 Ford COE chopped casket carrier, very nice

Chevy panel

And finally a 1937 Chevy pickup he had just brought home.

We were encouraged to open the doors and sit in the trucks, what a trip! Took a little of the sadness out of the funeral day.

And, the good news is, the working area of the shop was not a lot cleaner than mine

 

[BUGTHUG]

OH BOY! I like this site. I don't know if it was mentioned but where in OK do you live? Maybe Pryor area? Would love some wrought iron wheels to make things, junkyard art stuff.
LOVE the COE's, man I've never seen the ones in the last picture? Are they going to be for sale or something? I would love to own the white one you have, if you decide you might not get to it, I'll give it a nice home.

 

[1/2 Cup]

Andy, Our thoughts a with you at this time.

Regards.

 

[Terrick down Under]

A, you just get special thoughts about special people, they are called Mom.
Prayers for you and yours.

 

[oldironfarmer]

OH BOY! I like this site. I don't know if it was mentioned but where in OK do you live? Maybe Pryor area? Would love some wrought iron wheels to make things, junkyard art stuff.
LOVE the COE's, man I've never seen the ones in the last picture? Are they going to be for sale or something? I would love to own the white one you have, if you decide you might not get to it, I'll give it a nice home.

I live halfway between Tulsa and Stillwater, out in the sticks. On a farm, and I farm with old iron. I do have lots of old iron wheels.

The COE's are owned by a distant acquaintance. His personal collection. He has encouraged me to come back again, so I may take my 37 Chevy by and see if he'll let me drive some of his. Thinking he would, and that would be GREAT!! I think they'll be for sale only after he passes He is an avid collector.

You wouldn't want the white one, I've already got $400 in it

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy, Our thoughts a with you at this time.

Regards.

A, you just get special thoughts about special people, they are called Mom.
Prayers for you and yours.

Thanks, guys. She was two weeks from being 95, and was not suffering, and it was expected. Still, it's hard to lose your mommy...

 

[Bob Heine]

Andy, I know the feeling. My mother passed away on Mothers Day 8 years ago and she was 95. Even when you know it's coming it opens up a hole in your heart.

 

[BBChevro]

Sorry to hear about your loss Andy.

On a happier note, that's a very nice collection that you got to visit.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy, I know the feeling. My mother passed away on Mothers Day 8 years ago and she was 95. Even when you know it's coming it opens up a hole in your heart.

Sorry to hear about your loss Andy.

On a happier note, that's a very nice collection that you got to visit.

Thank you for the condolences. It's funny how my attitude has changed after the funeral. I think I was getting through the ordeal and now have time to deal with the loss. She was a great mom.

The collection was great, my pictures are not, I like photography but felt very rushed (it was the morning of the funeral, and my brother, son, grandson, and brother-in-law were all touring with me).

What is not in the pictures are "rare" Subaru's, BMW's, Mercedes, and other modern cars which don't interest me much, but they each had a place, all standard transmissions, some turbocharged, or all wheel drive. Very nice ten to twenty year old cars, and a Tesla Roadster. The Tesla was pretty impressive in person.

 

[BUGTHUG]

Is that car collection in OK also? Man he's got a nice collection. Some of the nicest COE"s I've ever seen! Speaking of, if you would be interested in parting with your white CEO, I would like to seriously talk with you.
Funerals, defiantly make you ponder about your own life, and where you are in it.
Nice to watch you do a add on the barn, I think I would add another 20' just because its easier to do now than later.

 

[j p smith]

Andy, sorry to hear this news about your Mom.

Thanks for posting the pictures of the trucks.

I am making a trip to Oklahoma in September. Will be at Haikey Creek Park out side of Broken Arrow for Family Reunion.