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Woo Hoo you did get to open a very cool present for Christmas, congrats. Enjoy the time with family, we will all still be here even if you'd rather some of us just go. You need a bigger stick to drive me away. :)
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ANDY: looks like your Christmas was a great day in the new shop opening up and installing your lift. happy to see the protective frame helped save your lift from the dent that might have cause that heavy angle iron to bend.

i like how you are so humble and think all you do is just move a screwdriver from one bench to the next cause even your walks or work on a fence about a mile from your house sounds like a lot of work to me. that's not even mentioning all the time well spent making your addition and getting all the stuff to fill it up.

here's to an even better 2017 than 2016 and i think all of us here on GJ are happy you joined our growing family of tool addicts.

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I'm impressed with your lift Andy. I'm more impressed how quickly you've put it together (now that you gotten to it). You've done a calking job.;)

Thanks for your kind comments!:bowdown: Unfortunately it is still not operable. I wasted the entire day installing a main breaker on a new power pole for the pole barn house we are building. No, I didn't really, no pictures? And tomorrow I've got a closing for a lot I sold today, and Thursday a friend is bringing lunch and his family and Friday is closing on the house we've been remodeling. It sure sold quickly and no realtor. I didn't have time to list it. Hmmm.... no commission either. I'm a DIY you know. I do my own deeds and mortgages and don't use a closing company, I just kind of wing it. But we do it at a bank so we have a notary handy. No charge either if you owe the bank enough money. Chalk a calk up to me!:lol_hitti

Are your indoor pictures taken with a flash or just the shop lighting? They are always so well lit. It might have something to do with the white walls and ceilings too.
I'm wanting to take more pictures to post on my truck build thread on another forum and maybe even start a shop thread here but I'm not liking the way my pictures come out.

Great work on the lift and all of your many efforts.

I'm lazy. Dan will tell you. I've got a great Canon EOS 6D and love taking pictures but I just use my cell phone for all my pictures. It is just too convenient. I've got an iPhone 6S I think, since November. Before it was an iPhone 5C.

I like lots of light, but the guys here said I bought too many so I may take some down.

Thanks for the kind words!

Woo Hoo you did get to open a very cool present for Christmas, congrats. Enjoy the time with family, we will all still be here even if you'd rather some of us just go. You need a bigger stick to drive me away. :)
JB

Thanks, I enjoyed the day and did not hurry. But now I can't seem to get back in the shop to finish. Soon.

How did you know I'd been using a stick?:willy_nil

ANDY: looks like your Christmas was a great day in the new shop opening up and installing your lift. happy to see the protective frame helped save your lift from the dent that might have cause that heavy angle iron to bend.

i like how you are so humble and think all you do is just move a screwdriver from one bench to the next cause even your walks or work on a fence about a mile from your house sounds like a lot of work to me. that's not even mentioning all the time well spent making your addition and getting all the stuff to fill it up.

here's to an even better 2017 than 2016 and i think all of us here on GJ are happy you joined our growing family of tool addicts.

cheers

I just love your comments. You make me sound like an OK guy. Thanks!

I appreciate your welcome to GJ!:bowdown:

When I get my shop clean do I have to leave?:willy_nil:willy_nil:willy_nil

No matter, it would be a long time.:lol_hitti:lol_hitti
 
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I see FarmerJonathon's signature. So I think this message is his specialty. He can tell me if I identified the subject properly.

I took this picture for those guys who think they are hot sh!t. Really

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I hope you can see the steam.:lol_hitti
 
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Andy, Great job on the lift! I look forward to the day - someday - when I can buy one of those for my big shop that still has a gravel floor.

Cheers!
 

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quite the real estate man also. did you take this up after retirement, like cooking? interesting that you write up your own deeds and mortgage papers. also do the title search on the bldgs and land?
the lift looks nice. i bet you will use it a lot. did you get those doo-hickeys that allow you to remove wheels and such? your energy is amazing.

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Andy, Great job on the lift! I look forward to the day - someday - when I can buy one of those for my big shop that still has a gravel floor.

Cheers!

In the floor lifts are cheap used, even if you have to repair the shell. I have an old Rotary in my shop (under the Chevelle for way too long) but I am looking forward to drive, lift, drain, fill, drive with no crawling on a dirty floor to set the arms. Maybe if I would sweep it would be easier:dunno:

But one of the perks of being retired is I feel more comfortable spending money I now know I won't need in my old age. Or maybe I am needing it in my old age.

Years ago I pulled engines with the Rotary lift at the station I worked at.

Thanks for your visit!

quite the real estate man also. did you take this up after retirement, like cooking? interesting that you write up your own deeds and mortgage papers. also do the title search on the bldgs and land?
the lift looks nice. i bet you will use it a lot. did you get those doo-hickeys that allow you to remove wheels and such? your energy is amazing.

jim

I tried retiring in 1999 but flunked out in 2004. However in 2002 I bought the farm, so to speak, that I split up into lots to sell. It has gone well, out of 31 lots I sold the last one last year, but still have several that people have given back because their plans changed. For whatever reason.

The first sale I made was a mobile home land home deal closed by a big closing company in Tulsa. They wrote a deed to transmit the entire 160 acres next door to my development instead of the six acres I sold. And since we were closing in the evening nobody there had the authority to change the deed. We had to get the lawyer on the phone from home and he tried to steam roll me. I finally got hot and told him fine, you sell my neighbor's farm to your buyer but you'll need to get my neighbor's signature not mine and I'll just sell the lot and house to someone else. And I don't want your money if I'm not selling my land. Then he magically figured it out. And I realized I can do that bad on my own. I have had to file a few amended deeds and mortgages but you know what? Insiders cheat, they just claim "scrivener's error" and file a revised document. I've had major banks (like Wells Fargo) finance and pay me off and have no issue with my documents. And the closing costs are $0.00. In fact, every closing I have not financed has been done by a closing company and there has been an error in every one of their closings. They basically hate to see me coming. One lady "oh, I remember you", "did you check your work" "we always do" "what about this item" "everybody makes mistakes":willy_nil

Yes, I do title searches because it is incredibly easy. All I have to look at is after 2002 when my lawyer did the title opinion for me and the document index in the County Clerk's office is logged in by tract as a column so you scan down the column to see if there is even any document to review. Took me about an hour two weeks ago to confirm sure enough a guy did get rights to his lot in his divorce but that is an exception. Divorce was only filed in the Court Clerk's office so I had to get a certified copy and file it against the lot in the land records. Really the first action I've had to take outside of filing deeds, mortgages, and mortgage releases.

So thanks for the compliment but it really is not a big deal, just like doing your own car maintenance, saves some money and avoids an idiot screwing up your stuff. And you can live with what you screw up yourself.

Got the lift for storage but I'm afraid it will be active storage:thumbup:

I gave my girlfriend a hickey one time but I don't like to get them. I thought I'd make myself something, or use the Rotary for wheel and brake use but I'm rethinking that. A big floor jack is pretty good for taking the wheels off something so I'll probably still use my jack for tire work.

Thanks for the comments and the visits guys. Sorry I can't seem to type short responses but I think most folks just slide over the words and look at the good stuff.

Took me all day to feed, write up three deeds and mortgages, loan nail guns to the guys building the house in a barn, close one sale (at the bank so they can notarize), run nails out to the guys and show them how to frame walls (I thought people were born knowing how to frame) have lunch and then make three brooms. NO QST GRRRRRR. (but I did have some QBT:thumbup:)

Company coming tomorrow!:):sad::):sad::):sad::willy_nil

"Say good night Gracie" "Good night Gracie"
 

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I tried retiring in 1999 but flunked out in 2004.
Andy, that's another thing we have in common. I tried retiring in 1994 but my wife flunked me out six months later. I tried again in 1999 and it seems to be working better. I think my QVC purchases caused the first failure so I stick to Amazon, Home Depot and McMaster-Carr now.
 

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Andy,
I guess I didn't catch it when we talked at your property that you do your own closings. That is very good and surely has saved lots of money. I know of the 5 closings I've been involved it there has always been a few dollars here and there go out to this or that and before long you have $2,000-$4,000 ******* in one deal. You now have me really thinking that I need to learn how to do this myself in the future.
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Andy, that's another thing we have in common. I tried retiring in 1994 but my wife flunked me out six months later. I tried again in 1999 and it seems to be working better. I think my QVC purchases caused the first failure so I stick to Amazon, Home Depot and McMaster-Carr now.

My therapist has recommended I stay away from you.:willy_nil

I retired in 99 and lasted 5 years. I got to missing it, and was able to slide back in with old friends who had just moved to a new company. While I was retired I tried to work myself to death farming. Baling 15,000 square bales per year on small fields with M Farmalls. I was in the best shape of my life. This time around I'm elderly so I'm taking it easy.

Andy,
I guess I didn't catch it when we talked at your property that you do your own closings. That is very good and surely has saved lots of money. I know of the 5 closings I've been involved it there has always been a few dollars here and there go out to this or that and before long you have $2,000-$4,000 ******* in one deal. You now have me really thinking that I need to learn how to do this myself in the future.
JB

It saves a little money on the closing company, but the real savings come from not having unnecessary third party work done and a big incentive is schedule and correctness. The down side is you have to be the mortgage company. You won't find a mortgage company who will let you do a closing. I'm just selling stuff I already own so I don't have to mess with somebody's rules which may or may not make sense for the particular deal. And I don't do title insurance. That's a cool little scam fro the sellers. I also treat people fairly and make sure they understand what they are getting into. But I'd be happy to show you what I do. It is up to you to make sure you obey the law.
 

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I see FarmerJonathon's signature. So I think this message is his specialty. He can tell me if I identified the subject properly.

I took this picture for those guys who think they are hot sh!t. Really

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I hope you can see the steam.:lol_hitti

I thought we agreed there would be no selfies.:lol_hitti
 
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Andy, I tried yours and Mrs Andy's pie pastry recipe, came up a treat. :thumbup:

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Cheated and used tinned pie apple for tonight's apple pie.

Cheers GB.

Took me a little while to interpret "tinned pie apple", we may tin before we solder, but I've never tinned apples. And poor employees get canned.

Wow! Those look good. Crust came out good?

I thought we agreed there would be no selfies.:lol_hitti

Tell that to Bob, and Lyndon. They've posted selfies.

Oh, yeah, I see your point.:willy_nil OK, no more selfies.

I still vote for you as the member looking most like our avatar.:rocker:

On another subject, orphans coming home. I retrieved a wayward propane tank a few weeks ago. Went to take a picture of my upside down trusses and visited with my old buddy (he really is old) whose barn they are in. After visiting a while he said let's load up your drill press. I loaned it to him 12 years ago. He has a home machine shop and needed the long stroke for an occasional production run of wooden spools for a needle drawing device at a local factory. I had said keep it as long as you like. Nice to have it home, it will fit in well in the Skelly Garage.

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Andy: so you do all DEED of TRUSTS on your house and lot sales or all cash? congrats for figuring out the system. i was a full time Realtor for about 30 years and honestly you'd have to probably teach me almost from scratch how to do my own closing without title insurance not to mention the closing paperwork. it was WAAAAAAAY too much liability for me to do even mortgages and real estate commissions or being a dual agent on deals to get into the closings too.

again since i'm here I hope you have many many years more above dirt and hope the new shop and lift and all the polished pipes and clocked screws make 2017 your best year yet and if not you still have all of us to keep you smiling.

cheers
 
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Andy: so you do all DEED of TRUSTS on your house and lot sales or all cash? congrats for figuring out the system. i was a full time Realtor for about 30 years and honestly you'd have to probably teach me almost from scratch how to do my own closing without title insurance not to mention the closing paperwork. it was WAAAAAAAY too much liability for me to do even mortgages and real estate commissions or being a dual agent on deals to get into the closings too.

again since i'm here I hope you have many many years more above dirt and hope the new shop and lift and all the polished pipes and clocked screws make 2017 your best year yet and if not you still have all of us to keep you smiling.

cheers

Actually I do General Warranty Deeds, and simple Mortgages. I don't know I've ever sold a property for cash. I'm getting ready to be busy as I have to provide each buyer an end of year mortgage interest statement. In Oklahoma I could do a Contract for Deed where you provide a deed only upon satisfaction of the mortgage. I would rather the buyer be the full owner at closing and I hold the mortgage. I really don't have much liability, just exposure to failure to pay mortgages which results in a foreclosure which costs me about $1,500 to have done. Each buyer knows I am the owner/seller so there can be no misunderstanding who I am representing. I tell them up front the main reason for the down payment is for them to provide the money for the foreclosure, should they cause that to be necessary.

In the 14 years I've been doing it there have really not been any problems. I am not a Realtor and do not want to be a Realtor, I'm just an individual entering into a sale and taking back a mortgage until the sale is paid in full. I have some rental property and the renters have as many rights as deed holders it seems. The key for me is treating people fairly and not getting in a hurry.

As always thanks for stopping by and making interesting comments!
 

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Andy
Happy New Year and hope that it goes well. I have enjoyed your thread and the process of cleaning out the shop and all the activities associated with life.

Dwight
 
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Andy, that's one sweet Craftsman Drill press..

Are you giving it a makeover or leaving as it is?

Eight days to go..

1/2 thanks!

I only learned about machine tool makeovers on GJ. I had never considered doing anything other than necessary maintenance and occasional improvements. So all of my tools have a wonderful patina :lol_hitti I very much enjoy seeing folks overhaul their tools and make them like new. While I have brought some back from years of neglect and some which were in my fire (like my wood lathe) I'm not yet sure I can find the time to do a real makeover. I guess I just need to try it once.

Thanks for the visit! Seven days now?:willy_nil

Do you have anything planned? Or just the 40 carat diamond?

Andy
Happy New Year and hope that it goes well. I have enjoyed your thread and the process of cleaning out the shop and all the activities associated with life.

Dwight

Thank you! Comments like yours are motivating to me.:rocker:
 
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Finally got some QST today! Not much as we went to town to have lunch for a friend's birthday. She has been my friend for 40 years, and my wife's for almost 50 years. We met her and another long time friend for a long lunch.

I've been meaning to mention that the manual for the Bendpak lift is very well written. Seemed to have been written by an English speaker, if you know what I mean. But I'm wondering. For instance, when it tries to tell you to square up the four legs, the instruction says "The four legs are now squared". a little "to be" before squared would have prevented me going back a few pages and reading over and over looking for where I was told to square the legs. I had already done it anyway, but wanted to make certain I hadn't missed a step with other instructions I hadn't done.

But a few places it has stumped me in trying to follow it explicitly. The pictures don't always match the text. The text here, for instance, says to install the motor.

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I may have ignored the licensed electrician warning. But with no mention of the vibration dampener pad. I figured that was something for the next paragraph. So I did

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and had to take it back off again. My fault. Glad I hadn't put the oil in. Now I'm really not complaining. Other than a few omissions and confusing words, it is pretty well written. Just commenting on the errors and omissions. I guess I'm used to pictures with more information than required and only supplementing text which is otherwise complete.

Had about two hours and got the motor replaced, oil in, hydraulic hose hooked up, and air lock release system installed. Turned the page and it was time to raise:rocker::rocker:

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After working the air out it is super smooth and quiet. Final leveling tomorrow the oil changes. Three to do.:willy_nil

Have a safe celebration and see you in '17:3gears:
 
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You will love not crawling on the ground.
when I worked in a shop years ago we had 2 two posts a 4 post (skateboard lift) that is still my favorite, you just cant find them, too many insurance claims drive a car onto one of those lifts that the owner forgot to tell you they had no back brakes and you got to work for an hour to get it back on the right side of things again.
I am in the process of moving my soon to be not mine house has a 2 post rotary in it. And I just installed a used 4 post rotary in my new to me shop. I love the just drive in and lift, so much easier on me. ( I am on my 3rd right knee note to all do NOT let a loaded pop machine fall on your knee, it never gets better) I love the new to me Rotary and with my compact tractors I just take the non hydraulic ramp loose 4 bolts put a little dolly under it slide it in closer instant short width hoist for me little tractors.
Enjoy doing those oil changes.. the front of your shirts and pants will stay cleaner


Oh who am I kidding I never remember a rag anymore so I don't get dust and dirt on my cloths but they still get dirty when I wipe that dirty motor oil off on em...

Happy NEW YEAR
 
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Andy, I'm 45 minutes early but Happy New Year anyway.

2017:3gears:

You will love not crawling on the ground.
when I worked in a shop years ago we had 2 two posts a 4 post (skateboard lift) that is still my favorite, you just cant find them, too many insurance claims drive a car onto one of those lifts that the owner forgot to tell you they had no back brakes and you got to work for an hour to get it back on the right side of things again.
I am in the process of moving my soon to be not mine house has a 2 post rotary in it. And I just installed a used 4 post rotary in my new to me shop. I love the just drive in and lift, so much easier on me. ( I am on my 3rd right knee note to all do NOT let a loaded pop machine fall on your knee, it never gets better) I love the new to me Rotary and with my compact tractors I just take the non hydraulic ramp loose 4 bolts put a little dolly under it slide it in closer instant short width hoist for me little tractors.
Enjoy doing those oil changes.. the front of your shirts and pants will stay cleaner


Oh who am I kidding I never remember a rag anymore so I don't get dust and dirt on my cloths but they still get dirty when I wipe that dirty motor oil off on em...

Happy NEW YEAR

Bought the four post for storage, now I'm in trouble. I want to use it so I've already been measuring to see if I can fit a second four post behind it:willy_nil

I try to use paper towels but my jeans are still my favorite!

Using the creeper to work on the four post I'm surprised how hard it has become to get up off the floor. So I have made a New Year's Resolution (which I rarely do), I resolve to get flat on the floor and back up ten times per day to re-establish those muscles.

Thanks for the visit and comments!
 

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happy new year andy. your mention of getting back up sure rings true to me. my gf and i both struggle with that. hope your resolution helps. :willy_nil your new lift sure will nice to have, what ever you use it for. maybe when you get it straightened out you could put another 4 poster in the other bay behind the rotary?

jim
 

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OIF, just thinking out loud,,,,if you put the second 4 post in line, line them up and not more than about 6 feet a part. Then you will be able to (with a couple of flat ramps) drive from one lift to the other at top height. You get storage and flexibility.
 

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OIF, just thinking out loud,,,,if you put the second 4 post in line, line them up and not more than about 6 feet a part. Then you will be able to (with a couple of flat ramps) drive from one lift to the other at top height. You get storage and flexibility.

tdu he could do that, but then he would need a ladder. i guess andy could build one tho.:dunno::bounce:

jim
 
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happy new year andy. your mention of getting back up sure rings true to me. my gf and i both struggle with that. hope your resolution helps. :willy_nil your new lift sure will nice to have, what ever you use it for. maybe when you get it straightened out you could put another 4 poster in the other bay behind the rotary?

jim

Happy '17! Practicing getting on the floor and getting back up will help if I'll just do it. I've only done four today, time to do another.

I considered another behind the Rotary before I added on, but that is my fab area, and farm equipment maintenance so I didn't want to lose that. I changed oil on it today, sure was nice:thumbup:

OIF, just thinking out loud,,,,if you put the second 4 post in line, line them up and not more than about 6 feet a part. Then you will be able to (with a couple of flat ramps) drive from one lift to the other at top height. You get storage and flexibility.

Grand idea, I'm just afraid there would be more flexibility than I care for. The lifts are stable for gravity, but braking would put a lot of side load on them. I have not bolted mine down and do not plan to unless the earthquakes get worse:bounce: But as long as a disabled one is front and top, I'm sure I could drive over two lifts on the ground, and probably back off the front and under the rear one so long as the vehicles were not too high. I'm thinking about completing the frame I have for unheated storage.

Thanks for stopping in, and I hope '17 is prosperous for you!

tdu he could do that, but then he would need a ladder. i guess andy could build one tho.:dunno::bounce:

jim

I guess a stepladder would do for an occasional trip. If you are storing top and bottom you probably need access to the car stored on top sometimes too, like looking to see if what you are looking for is in the trunk:willy_nil

Enjoy this fresh new year! It flies by all too soon! There are only two more **-teen years after this one. With the advances in optometry we'll all see 2020 before you know it.
 
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Temporary power and temporary air, got some oil changed.

Honda CRV

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And the FJ Cruiser

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Can't run the FJ all the way up, the rack on top would hit. But it is plenty high enough to work under standing upright. I did make a mark on the lift and labeled it FJ for future reference. This time I climbed a ladder to confirm there was adequate headroom.

I christened the floor, oil filter on the FJ is on top and was stuck. Had to drive a screwdriver through it to break it loose, my handy dandy filter wrench just crushed it. I guess I was feeling my oats when I put it on. In any event, driving the screwdriver into it let oil out on the floor before I could get a pan under it. I use sawdust for oil dry, really ***** the oil out of the concrete. It needs to be clean if I paint the floor, which I am considering.

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Andy,

sorry i missed a few posts, but if you check the vintage metal cabinets thread and my new Daughter's chair thread you might see why. i'm playing ADULT TETRIS cause i don't think i'll ever be happy with the cabinets i own when there are so so many choices. here's the link where you might get a few ideas or maybe you have a few to post up there on the thread too.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=305350

FJ looks great on your lift and congrats.

when you mentioned a screwdriver for the filter i thought you might like this tool one of my clients used until he retired and then gave to me. this is what he used to pull the filters at his tractor repair business for years and i thought it was worth having. i haven't used it yet, but if i ever need to i have it where i can find it at least. i can see you making one or maybe you have one besides just using a screwdriver.

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Andy, you put us all to shame with the accomplishments you have! Great work on the lift but I'd be scared to death not having the lift bolted down!!!! b :shocking::shocking::shocking::shocking:

... especially living in an earthquake zone!

Cheers!
 

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"Fellow survivors: We survived quite an ordeal. I actually overslept 1-1-2000 because my wind up alarm clock failed. I was scared to connect to mains power because I had not received certification from the Electric Utility in time, and likewise could not use my electric radio (certification in hand!) as my generator did not have certification so I did not use it out of an abundance of caution. The ice chest performed well, the one area I bravely elected to use a non-certified device in spite of my fears. The refrigerator I had was old and Sears refused to even consider offering any certification, and it would have required generator or mains power regardless. When we finally looked out of the bunker about 10:00 AM we were surprised we did not see any marauding inner city dwellers but we remained sequestered until the following morning realizing wisely that they might have not made it this far out yet. We finally tried connecting to the mains power only to learn it had not been compromised after all. But still, with no certification it was a very bold and risky move to make. We feel confident the caution we took protected us from unwarranted irrational fear of the unknown."

Andy, that has to be one of the best things I've read here. I LMFAO and remember it all too well.

Oh yeah, nice job on the lift, but I'm with Slim on that one. Are you planning on bolting it down????
 
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Andy,

sorry i missed a few posts, but if you check the vintage metal cabinets thread and my new Daughter's chair thread you might see why. i'm playing ADULT TETRIS cause i don't think i'll ever be happy with the cabinets i own when there are so so many choices. here's the link where you might get a few ideas or maybe you have a few to post up there on the thread too.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=305350

FJ looks great on your lift and congrats.

when you mentioned a screwdriver for the filter i thought you might like this tool one of my clients used until he retired and then gave to me. this is what he used to pull the filters at his tractor repair business for years and i thought it was worth having. i haven't used it yet, but if i ever need to i have it where i can find it at least. i can see you making one or maybe you have one besides just using a screwdriver.

cheers

I guess you call that a filter valve? Nice idea, but for the three times I've needed one in fifty years I'll probably stick with a square screwdriver. Square because it does not tear the filter housing as easily. I try not to over torque filters, but, oh well.

Time is precious and I live in a sparsely populated area, so I am staying with the cabinets I have unless something falls out of the sky, like Slim's shelving:rocker::rocker::rocker:

I was truly inspired by your daughter. I'm sure that just knowing her compels you do do everything you can for her.:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

All: If you haven't checked out Drives' thread for a wedding chair, you owe it to yourself.

Andy, you put us all to shame with the accomplishments you have! Great work on the lift but I'd be scared to death not having the lift bolted down!!!! b :shocking::shocking::shocking::shocking:

... especially living in an earthquake zone!

Cheers!

Who wants an overblown detailed description? Oh yeah, you came back to my thread!:lol_hitti

Lift is designed to be moved on casters and used without bolting. To a large extent, surviving an earthquake requires flexibility. Therefore, bolting legs down solidly will likely result in deformation of the legs during a moderate earthquake rather than the lift taking a stroll across the shop a bit. Assuming the lift is loaded when the earthquake takes place. At some level of earthquake a loaded lift will collapse, bolted or not. I do not know, but suspect, the lift will successfully withstand a larger earthquake unbolted than bolted.

We have never been in an earthquake zone until fracking. The injection of large quantities of water into deep zones has apparently caused some shaking as the earth popped and groaned ingesting it's holiday dinners of water. The regulators have begun limiting injections and the earthquakes have slowed down. No mechanism present for a giant one and no forces to produce a giant one. IMHO.

The manual for the lift is written to appease all. Section where anchor bolts starts says quietly "If not bolting the lift down skip this section" then proceeds to highlight the regulations which are met by bolting it down. If the jurisdiction requires it, they are ready. They never recommend bolting it down. (they might sell fewer caster kits if they did)

And I'm lazy and not bolting it down is easier.:willy_nil

"Fellow survivors: We survived quite an ordeal. I actually overslept 1-1-2000 because my wind up alarm clock failed. I was scared to connect to mains power because I had not received certification from the Electric Utility in time, and likewise could not use my electric radio (certification in hand!) as my generator did not have certification so I did not use it out of an abundance of caution. The ice chest performed well, the one area I bravely elected to use a non-certified device in spite of my fears. The refrigerator I had was old and Sears refused to even consider offering any certification, and it would have required generator or mains power regardless. When we finally looked out of the bunker about 10:00 AM we were surprised we did not see any marauding inner city dwellers but we remained sequestered until the following morning realizing wisely that they might have not made it this far out yet. We finally tried connecting to the mains power only to learn it had not been compromised after all. But still, with no certification it was a very bold and risky move to make. We feel confident the caution we took protected us from unwarranted irrational fear of the unknown."

Andy, that has to be one of the best things I've read here. I LMFAO and remember it all too well.

Oh yeah, nice job on the lift, but I'm with Slim on that one. Are you planning on bolting it down????

:bowdown: My hat's off to you! You read through text with no pictures!:rocker: Glad you liked it.:rocker::rocker: At the time, the IT professionals were not particularly amused. They thought I was making light of their important quest.:rocker::rocker::rocker:

On the lift, I bolted it up so why would I bolt it down:willy_nil This language is so confusing.:eyecrazy: I'm thinking of learning Chinese. I hear they've got a lot a characters over there, maybe it would be fun.
 
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Pretty good day today. Made a needle first thing today. Then put up all the lights in the paint booth. I don't think there's too many.

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Still have to tidy up the wires, and I've decided to get metal outlet covers for the single outlets. And there is some sunlight on the trunk.

Had a friend stop by to admire the new lift. So we put my truck on it so see how it would fit. Had to close the mirrors as expected. But the wider version of the lift would not fit my space.

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Climbed a ladder to monitor cab height. That's as close as I want it.

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Taller yet than the FJ Cruiser but at a lower, conservative level the driveline was still too high to work on.:thumbup:

So there is a safety mark for the F-350 now as well.

Since I had company, and it was warm (70F) I asked whether he would like to steer my Dodge onto the lift. He agreed so we drug it in front of the door then used a piece of pipe for a push bar.

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only dropped the pipe one time, at the elevation change into the shop. Making progress

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He's a good hand so I just gave him a shove and let him stop it where he wanted. Perfect.

Tractor looks like it could use a shine. After painting. The old M never opened the governor to push a dead Dodge with a Cummins boat anchor up front. I love the old iron. It hadn't been started in three months and fired on the first revolution.

Ready for repair in the coming cold spell.

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Next is finishing sheetrock work for paint booth, then make doors, and mount the blower and motor. It's about time to make a few work benches then....




Cleaning Up My Shop:rocker::rocker::rocker:
 
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Andy, the paint booth looks great. I think you're spot on with the lights. I hope with it up and running you'll be able to do a little better on the next paint job you do. I noticed a little orange peel on the tractors hood, but other than that it looks awesome. No need to buff it out, I doubt that anyone without a trained eye would have even picked up on it.:bounce:
 

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ANDY: how are you making all these marks on your lift for all the rigs you have to put on it? so you are NEVER GOING TO BOLT IT DOWN?

great lighting in the paint room, but i have a few questions. since you were talking EXPLOSION PROOF doesn't switching or lighting maybe cause an issue? also how are you planning on keeping overspray off your new lights?

I've got 5 inches of snow and temps in the teens and you have 70 degrees? OMG wasn't it just snowing on your farm last week?

HAVE ANOTHER GREAT SATURDAY TODAY.

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Andy, the paint booth looks great. I think you're spot on with the lights. I hope with it up and running you'll be able to do a little better on the next paint job you do. I noticed a little orange peel on the tractors hood, but other than that it looks awesome. No need to buff it out, I doubt that anyone without a trained eye would have even picked up on it.:bounce:

Thanks so much for your comments, Dan. Yes, I suppose the tractor paint is fine, but you know what a stickler I am for perfection. (by the way, did you see that oil pressure?) You wouldn't know from just looking, but original lead based paint underneath turns from red to orange over 70 years. Then my helper twenty years ago rattle can painted it black for a Halloween parade. After a few years I rattle canned it red. I have finally removed all but traces of the black holiday paint deftly through procrastination and storage in a suitable environment for paint removal (outside).

This tractor is my red submarine, and may be one of the original rat rods. It has a patina which is unmatched at any car shows I attend.

Thanks for the compliment on my attention to detail:rocker::rocker:

ANDY: how are you making all these marks on your lift for all the rigs you have to put on it? so you are NEVER GOING TO BOLT IT DOWN?

great lighting in the paint room, but i have a few questions. since you were talking EXPLOSION PROOF doesn't switching or lighting maybe cause an issue? also how are you planning on keeping overspray off your new lights?

I've got 5 inches of snow and temps in the teens and you have 70 degrees? OMG wasn't it just snowing on your farm last week?

HAVE ANOTHER GREAT SATURDAY TODAY.

cheers

I am using a silver Sharpie. Shows up well on the blue. Only two marks, so far! Since I have a relatively low ceiling (12' 4") I need to be diligent about the height of the load I raise. I think I've come up with a good redneck warning. I'm going to stretch a string between the two incoming posts. Any vehicle higher than those posts is in jeopardy of contacting the ceiling. I could use a driveway alarm, but that is pretty high tech for me. And a broken string is a reminder something else could get broken. Those who know me understand I always work with low overhead.

I can't say I'm never going to bolt it down. Maybe after the accident.:headscrat

Paint booth: All switching is outside the paint booth. For safety. A lamp arcing and failing would be a safety issue, but in my experience that usually happens upon startup.

The paint is supposed to go on the car:thumbup: The only time I expect to spray right at the lights is when I'm testing the paint gun settings.:headscrat The reflectors will help with falling mist, but also I'm hoping the exhaust fan will remove a lot of the airborne material. Slow and methodical painting helps as well. I have considered draping visqueen over the lamps during painting but I'm not thinking that will be necessary. Or I'm not thinking. One or the other, I've got it covered.:thumbup:

Thanks for stopping by guys!

Not much opportunity for QST this week, and then it's off to MD Anderson for my semiannual romp! My son and granddaughter are going along, then on to Huntsville, AL, and Nashville where I hope to go to a Caterpillar dealer and finally see some real Nashville CATs.
 

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Andy, the oil pressure gauge is too far away for my old eyes to make out but appears to have the needle on the right (literally) side of the gauge. I'm questioning the generator though, that appears to be close to the "danger Will Robinson" indicator. Probably once again it's just my old eyes.

Enjoy you trip and I too hope you get to see the real Nashville Cats.:lol_hitti
 
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It always has carried a lot of oil pressure. I don't change the gauge for fear it is weak and reading too high.

The other gauge is the temperature gauge. It always runs a little cool but carbon in the combustion chamber promotes good compression. It doesn't smoke. You can pretty much tell the air temperature with the temperature gauge. At 105F under load it is near the red range.

The ammeter is low on the steering column with the headlight switch. It has an alternator (complete with a cut hood by P.O.) that charges very well.

I have spent many hours on that old tractor over the last twenty five years.
 

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Andy, I just took an hour to catch up with this thread! I've been away for a few months, its great to come back and check out everything you've got goin on. Loved watching you machine the sheave out of that old farm pulley. Reminds me why I love GJ...lots of different people from a variety of backgrounds who can do so many things!
 
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