Above 1200 Sq/FT Cleaning Up My Shop

[wasfast]

We had one of those scales on the farm I grew up on. It left from the previous owners in the 1950's. Used for weighing grain sacks and bales I think. Cool to see and very well made.

 

[jbmatth]

I'm actually surprised at the weight of the drill press, I would have expected more. On the oil and coke coming out of Nomex/FRC (Fire Retardant Clothing), most of mine are stained like that and will never come clean. I wear them with pride as most engineers here wear jeans and a polo, I don't want to ruin my own clothes so I ruin my work clothes instead.

Side note, any time we are in the unit we have to wear Nomex or FRC as well as steel toe boots, hard hat, safety glasses, ear plugs, and cut resistant gloves. Regular leather gloves have been banned because they get cut too easy, they must now be thick leather with a Kevlar or equivalent liner. Also when some go into the unit they will wear the jeans and polo under coveralls and ruin clothes, I'm too cheap to buy new clothes so I use work clothes all the time.

JB

 

[Rex_A_Lott]

You're a mechanical guy so I'm sure you know the easy way to check the fan is to run it with the belt off for a few min. All the big model a supplier s carry that cast aluminum two blade fan. Bert's in Denver may be the closest to you,ie cheapest shipping. Good luck. e

 

[Cris B]

I am really enjoying this thread. Growing up on a farm I can relate to so much of the content - keep the updates coming!

 

[oldironfarmer]

We have them... just 5x the price of the others. Difference is US probably sells boatloads where as a container full would last some shops a few years in NZ. Onselling from Australia also adds to the cost.

Auckland is closer to Beijing than Oklahoma. But then surprisingly Washington is closer to Beijing than Auckland.

Are there import duties too? Those can sure be deal breakers.

Distances you described are interesting. I guess the distances are relatively close to being the same. Of course we think it's a long way from Oklahoma to Washington.

We had one of those scales on the farm I grew up on. It left from the previous owners in the 1950's. Used for weighing grain sacks and bales I think. Cool to see and very well made.

Thanks! A neighbor was moving to and had a tool sale. He gave me scale. It was a pretty sad day. His wife was insisting he sell all his tools so he wouldn't be spending time in the garage. Sound like a good idea to anyone?

The scale is missing a 1 lb 100 lb weight. I can measure from 0-400 lbs and 500-900 lb. I think it is 1,000 lb capacity, Fairbanks.

I'm actually surprised at the weight of the drill press, I would have expected more. On the oil and coke coming out of Nomex/FRC (Fire Retardant Clothing), most of mine are stained like that and will never come clean. I wear them with pride as most engineers here wear jeans and a polo, I don't want to ruin my own clothes so I ruin my work clothes instead.

Side note, any time we are in the unit we have to wear Nomex or FRC as well as steel toe boots, hard hat, safety glasses, ear plugs, and cut resistant gloves. Regular leather gloves have been banned because they get cut too easy, they must now be thick leather with a Kevlar or equivalent liner. Also when some go into the unit they will wear the jeans and polo under coveralls and ruin clothes, I'm too cheap to buy new clothes so I use work clothes all the time.

JB

I wasn't surprised by the weight, I already knew I was a runt.

When I moved into a maintenance engineering position I started wearing FRC full time. I had seen too many guys try and try to figure out something without putting on their coveralls and just go look.

But I've been wearing steel toes for many year and feel exposed without them. My closest calls have been cattle.

You're a mechanical guy so I'm sure you know the easy way to check the fan is to run it with the belt off for a few min. All the big model a supplier s carry that cast aluminum two blade fan. Bert's in Denver may be the closest to you,ie cheapest shipping. Good luck. e

Thanks! If I wasn't so lazy I would have looked at it, but it is low priority. I need to buy a fan regardless. No matter what is wrong it will get fixed. I don't anticipate scrapping it

I am really enjoying this thread. Growing up on a farm I can relate to so much of the content - keep the updates coming!

So glad you like it! I'm having a great time writing it...

 

[oldironfarmer]

Here's the drill press crowded on the bench.

I've moved a lot of "stuff" out of the planer room so decided to do a little more cleaning.

Not cleaned but it's a start.

Then set about to extending the bench for the drill press and putting edge banding on the bench to hold the Masonite.

I think it is going to be a good work space.

I think I mentioned some time back I have a keg of what I think are old flooring nails. It was almost full when I got it, but I think I've still got enough.

I use those nails for hanging tools.

I also made a file holder and will mount it tomorrow.

Thanks for stopping in, Cokes are a dime.

 

[dchance]

Andy,

I know all this started so you can clean your shop, but any body that can find a plug for Bob that was made two years ago can not have too big a mess, even tho it may look like it. I can not find things I laid down 15 minutes ago and I know it is there.

I like your Go-truck. Have been through Jennings many times but I have not been there when there was a crowd large enough to have a parade. Have been to Hallett and sat on the hillside and watched cars go in circles. It is a good way to spend a stress free day.

It seems like you have another advantage. Not only 6 Sat. in a week but you never know when Christmas will show up and you will find new boxed items.

I enjoy you posts and some things I see you do can come in handy whenever I decide to clean up my garage.

Dwight

 

[1/2 Cup]

Andy, going great guns...

 

[ajohno]

Looking great Andy.

 

[BBChevro]

Hey Andy, it's finally happened - I've finally caught up on your thread. (insert "champagne popping and balloons" emoji thingy here).


I'm green with envy about the new lift and I've got to mention what an incredible job you've done with the air lines.


I really enjoyed the vacation photos too.

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[wasfast]

Thanks! A neighbor was moving to and had a tool sale. He gave me scale. It was a pretty sad day. His wife was insisting he sell all his tools so he wouldn't be spending time in the garage. Sound like a good idea to anyone?

Perhaps the only tool he'll keep is a spade in case a 6' deep hole needs digging.........

 

[bolensboneyard]

Andy might want to put an extra leg under that drill press. It looks pretty heavy. Nice work.

 

[Jeff Joslin]

I weighed it at 143-1/2 pounds.

The 1955 Sears catalog gives the weight as 142 lb. Yours must have 1 1/2 lb of dirt on it.

 

[Farmerjonathan]

Andy, I know you insulated well behind the sheetrock, but just a thought on the drill press. Cut between two studs and instead of a "bumpout" like they do on houses, do a "bump IN". Make a depression between two studs, looks like half the width of the stud would do it. Either that or a larger U made on the bench so you can get past the post. A shelf then on the post would make a good extension table for those long pieces.

 

[drivesitfar]

ANDY: WOW, clean floor space and a clean bench top too. WELL DONE!!

so how long to your bench tops stay clean and ready for their next project? i have FSD (flat surface disease) so having to clean off a bench to start a TO DO takes almost as much time as the TO DO.

Well i won't mention that i had the weight of your Craftsman DP figured out almost to the pound cause it really was a WAG. i do know that I can't put one up on a shelf above my head without help or a lift very easily.

nice trick extending part of your bench to keep your DP from hanging over. i probably would have angled mine, but you use yours a lot more than i use mine so i'm sure having it straight will make it easier for you. nice work on the tool wall and even though i don't have a bucket that full of nails i bet i've got more than most GJ'rs do. good to have supplies handy isn't it?

have a great REAL SATURDAY and hope your weekend plans have something fun involved.

 

[BUGTHUG]

I think you should of run that extension board all the way across the new table? gives it a finished look and it might make it easier to clamp something down, and drill a few holes for screw drivers, or not!

 

[Craptain]

The 1955 Sears catalog gives the weight as 142 lb. Yours must have 1 1/2 lb of dirt on it.

It was the practice back then to buy the DP and the motor separately. So the weight could never be accurate until the chosen motor was installed as not all motors are the same weight.

 

[drivesitfar]

CAP: i think you are right about the motors being an option, but probably more so prior to WWII. SEARS wasn't really into CUSTOMIZING per se, but prior to WWII the motors were almost as spendy or more spendy in some cases than the actual tool. hence the motor going from one tool to the other or running more than one at once sort of like the Shopsmith does now.

i think a pound or two might just be dirt, but that's just my take.

With Andy's talent I bet i can see a story coming in the future where he had a 3/4 or 1 hp motor run every tool in his garage when he was in his teens or early 20's.

cheers

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy,

I know all this started so you can clean your shop, but any body that can find a plug for Bob that was made two years ago can not have too big a mess, even tho it may look like it. I can not find things I laid down 15 minutes ago and I know it is there.

I like your Go-truck. Have been through Jennings many times but I have not been there when there was a crowd large enough to have a parade. Have been to Hallett and sat on the hillside and watched cars go in circles. It is a good way to spend a stress free day.

It seems like you have another advantage. Not only 6 Sat. in a week but you never know when Christmas will show up and you will find new boxed items.

I enjoy you posts and some things I see you do can come in handy whenever I decide to clean up my garage.

Dwight

Thanks for stopping in and the kind words. I can find some stuff, but spend plenty of time looking for what I should know exactly where it is. Like one of six torpedo levels. A problem with reorganizing is looking in the old spot for what you want.

You're right in my neighborhood when you're at Hallett. I have a place 1 mile west of the track and one three miles north of the track. I've roaded my tractors over there many times. The racetrack asked me about baling hay on their open areas one time. They keep it too short however.

You never know when a box will show up when you forget what you've ordered!

Andy, going great guns...

Thanks! I'm starting to get a few things done.

Looking great Andy.

Hey Andy, it's finally happened - I've finally caught up on your thread. (insert "champagne popping and balloons" emoji thingy here).


I'm green with envy about the new lift and I've got to mention what an incredible job you've done with the air lines.


I really enjoyed the vacation photos too.

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Glad to see you! Thank you, I even tried out the Brasso I bought on vacation just today. Should have taken a picture

Perhaps the only tool he'll keep is a spade in case a 6' deep hole needs digging.........

The whole deal disturbed me but he took it all in stride. He's more of a man than I.

Hey guys, the dimes for the Coke machine are on the glass case in the little box.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy might want to put an extra leg under that drill press. It looks pretty heavy. Nice work.

Thanks, Bobby. The legs are slender but pretty strong. And there is a 2x6 under the front of the bench. The leg to the right is just a little off the floor, there's not enough load to settle the bench. Thanks for looking in!

The 1955 Sears catalog gives the weight as 142 lb. Yours must have 1 1/2 lb of dirt on it.

Cool! I wonder how many years that model was built? I love the Art Deco styling. I'm assuming it was leftover design from the thirties.

Apparently I have not yet learned how to clean up a piece of equipment before putting it into service. I did oil it

Andy, I know you insulated well behind the sheetrock, but just a thought on the drill press. Cut between two studs and instead of a "bumpout" like they do on houses, do a "bump IN". Make a depression between two studs, looks like half the width of the stud would do it. Either that or a larger U made on the bench so you can get past the post. A shelf then on the post would make a good extension table for those long pieces.

Actually there is no insulation behind that sheetrock. The other side is the paint booth. I had not thought about a "bump-in", good idea! I checked and the drill press is right between two studs. But I'm not too concerned over getting past the post. Most work on that drill press will be small items. I can use another drill press if necessary. I thought it over quite a bit before taking up bench space with the drill press. But it will be handy there, and I really like it. I'd like to have a grinder there too, but not sure I have room so it will likely wind up on a pedestal.

ANDY: WOW, clean floor space and a clean bench top too. WELL DONE!!

so how long to your bench tops stay clean and ready for their next project? i have FSD (flat surface disease) so having to clean off a bench to start a TO DO takes almost as much time as the TO DO.

Well i won't mention that i had the weight of your Craftsman DP figured out almost to the pound cause it really was a WAG. i do know that I can't put one up on a shelf above my head without help or a lift very easily.

nice trick extending part of your bench to keep your DP from hanging over. i probably would have angled mine, but you use yours a lot more than i use mine so i'm sure having it straight will make it easier for you. nice work on the tool wall and even though i don't have a bucket that full of nails i bet i've got more than most GJ'rs do. good to have supplies handy isn't it?

have a great REAL SATURDAY and hope your weekend plans have something fun involved.

Thanks for your comments! The bench will stay clean as long as I want to take the time to have a clean place to work. Your guess is as good as mine.

I think you should of run that extension board all the way across the new table? gives it a finished look and it might make it easier to clamp something down, and drill a few holes for screw drivers, or not!

The bench overhangs by three inches, for clamping. Thanks for the suggestion. I kind of like the custom width at the drill press only.

It was the practice back then to buy the DP and the motor separately. So the weight could never be accurate until the chosen motor was installed as not all motors are the same weight.

That's interesting. I wondered about whether the motor might have been replaced. And of course the scale might not be accurate within 1%.

CAP: i think you are right about the motors being an option, but probably more so prior to WWII. SEARS wasn't really into CUSTOMIZING per se, but prior to WWII the motors were almost as spendy or more spendy in some cases than the actual tool. hence the motor going from one tool to the other or running more than one at once sort of like the Shopsmith does now.

i think a pound or two might just be dirt, but that's just my take.

With Andy's talent I bet i can see a story coming in the future where he had a 3/4 or 1 hp motor run every tool in his garage when he was in his teens or early 20's.

cheers

You bet, I've always wanted a line shaft setup for my blacksmith shop. I do have a jack shaft but have never gotten it set up. I'd like to have a single cylinder engine run the drill press and trip hammer.

Certainly this drill press is designed for a dedicated motor. I've never heard of anyone trying to swap one motor between tools like this.

So if I need another drill press, I have my big one in the main shop

A smaller one in the wood shop

Or two little ones in the wood shop

Or my dad's in the machine shop

Or the hand crank in the blacksmith shop

And I have a spare hand cranked one

Or the other two hand cranked ones I just got last summer.

I must need another drill press.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Used up my last farm egg this morning and added a factory egg. Can you tell which is which?

Didn't have much shed time today, but I did get my vise mounted

And put out the Brazilian tag my friend brought me

And got the file holder put up.

I need to put a handle on a chain saw file for this work area. If you haven't used one, a chain saw file is very good for non-chain saw work. De burring, elongating holes, etc. Fine tooth and doesn't hang up like most rat tail files do. Chain saw file and triangular file are my two favorite files, not that you asked.

Thanks for dropping by to visit, I appreciate each visit!

 

[1/2 Cup]

Andy, how many drill press does one actually need.

I am yet to work that one out obviously as I can only use one at a time..

There is nothing like farm fresh let me tell you...

Great work one the bench..

Regards

 

[Finallygotit]

Used up my last farm egg this morning and added a factory egg. Can you tell which is which?

The one with the darker yolk is the farm fresh egg, of course. What do I win?

 

[bolensboneyard]

Andy got the plate thanks. I bet many would be surprised at what they feed those store bought chickens too.

 

[BUGTHUG]

nice Brazilian tag. "beautiful horizon"

 

[drivesitfar]

Andy: fresh eggs, fruit and veggies out of your own yard and i guess a sacrificial cow every year or two would be a perfect diet for almost anybody.

is that a tub of butter next to the eggs? just wondering cause i'm sure you know margarine (that magic spread invented for our parents in our youth) is only one chemical different than plastic i've heard.

also the butter tubs make great parts and STUFF holders in case you haven't figured that out already.

dang it i know better than to post on your SUN day which is your day off so i'll not pester you for a response until tomorrow.

cheers

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy, how many drill press does one actually need.

I am yet to work that one out obviously as I can only use one at a time..

There is nothing like farm fresh let me tell you...

Great work one the bench..

Regards

Well, you can use more than one at a time. My littlest one stays with a chamfer tool in it so I can relieve holes for screw heads. If it's not set up either I can't find the tool or I'm too lazy to swap it out and try to force the screw head into the wood. And the other one in the wood shop I use for metal drilling so I don't contaminate the wood-only drill press. The one in the machine shop is also dry metal drilling so i don't mess up the bench. The one out in the main shop gets liberal oil and sits in a greasy mess all the time. The one in the blacksmith shop is mainly for show - I like to punch holes in blacksmith work but occasionally need to drill one, and if the piece is all hand made I'd rather drill a hole with a hand powered drill. Kind of dumb but that's me.

Thanks for stopping in!

The one with the darker yolk is the farm fresh egg, of course. What do I win?

You win a free hot breakfast cooked by me! Come on by anytime!

Andy got the plate thanks. I bet many would be surprised at what they feed those store bought chickens too.

Might be surprised what chickens running loose eat!

I'm thinking the color comes from grub worms.

nice Brazilian tag. "beautiful horizon"

Thanks for the interpretation!

Andy: fresh eggs, fruit and veggies out of your own yard and i guess a sacrificial cow every year or two would be a perfect diet for almost anybody.

is that a tub of butter next to the eggs? just wondering cause i'm sure you know margarine (that magic spread invented for our parents in our youth) is only one chemical different than plastic i've heard.

also the butter tubs make great parts and STUFF holders in case you haven't figured that out already.

dang it i know better than to post on your SUN day which is your day off so i'll not pester you for a response until tomorrow.

cheers

Sacrificial cow? We don't have any ceremonial activities associated with what the cows are food. They are right in the middle of the food chain.

Soft butter, with canola oil. We quit eating plastic years ago.

I throw butter tubs away, they get brittle after a few years and then I have parts all over the floor. Probably the heat here.

Dang! I'm waiting on visitors for supper. I fixed stew yesterday and getting ready to make cornbread. So I had a few GJ minutes!

Thanks for stopping in everyone. I thrive on comments!

 

[The_Geologist]

Subscribed!

I have spent parts of the last few evenings reading through this thread. I enjoy reading about your progress and when you find new projects.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Subscribed!

I have spent parts of the last few evenings reading through this thread. I enjoy reading about your progress and when you find new projects.

Thanks for stopping in, it's good to see you!

 

[Vieux]

used up my last farm egg this morning and added a factory egg. Can you tell which is which?

One egg bought in the store, the other egg from your chickens. Am I right?

 

[oldironfarmer]

One egg bought in the store, the other egg from your chickens. Am I right?

Yes. Stores around here mostly only carry eggs which are produced in "egg factories", thousands of hens, each in a separate cage eating, drinking, laying, clucking. They are fed scientifically for maximum production. Hens on a farm which run loose have a much more varied diet and their eggs tend to be richer. Dramatic difference in color between these two eggs.

 

[bolensboneyard]

Well, you can use more than one at a time. My littlest one stays with a chamfer tool in it so I can relieve holes for screw heads. If it's not set up either I can't find the tool or I'm too lazy to swap it out and try to force the screw head into the wood. And the other one in the wood shop I use for metal drilling so I don't contaminate the wood-only drill press. The one in the machine shop is also dry metal drilling so i don't mess up the bench. The one out in the main shop gets liberal oil and sits in a greasy mess all the time. The one in the blacksmith shop is mainly for show - I like to punch holes in blacksmith work but occasionally need to drill one, and if the piece is all hand made I'd rather drill a hole with a hand powered drill. Kind of dumb but that's me.

Thanks for stopping in!



You win a free hot breakfast cooked by me! Come on by anytime!



Might be surprised what chickens running loose eat!

I'm thinking the color comes from grub worms.



Thanks for the interpretation!



Sacrificial cow? We don't have any ceremonial activities associated with what the cows are food. They are right in the middle of the food chain.

Soft butter, with canola oil. We quit eating plastic years ago.

I throw butter tubs away, they get brittle after a few years and then I have parts all over the floor. Probably the heat here.

Dang! I'm waiting on visitors for supper. I fixed stew yesterday and getting ready to make cornbread. So I had a few GJ minutes!

Thanks for stopping in everyone. I thrive on comments!

Heck I've eaten those. Ours used to run until we lost 21 chickens in 21 days to a fox feeding her kits. Store bought chickens eat their own droppings among other things.

 

[Bob Heine]

Andy, I have fond memories of the eggs and chickens from my grandparents home. Grandpa made sure the chickens had plenty of feed and crushed oyster shells. City folks (if you can call Fair Haven, Vermont a city) freaked out when they saw a double-yolk or ginormous egg so that's what we kept and ate. Eating an egg that was still warm from the chicken before it went in the pan is a whole different experience that's hard to forget. A chicken raised for its meat under those conditions is also a different experience.

 

[BUGTHUG]

do you eat the ones that sometimes have a red dot in the middle?

 

[Bob Heine]

do you eat the ones that sometimes have a red dot in the middle?

Herb, a red dot in the yolk was a bonus but I refused to eat an egg that had a beak in it. Back in those days margarine was white and came in a plastic bag. The red dot in the middle of the bag had to be broken and kneaded until the margarine turned yellow. The dairy lobby wanted everyone to think "I can believe its not butter."

Grandma also had a "manual" toaster so it was rare to get a slice that wasn't black. Toast was served with the reminder that "Charcoal is good for you." My wife loves to use that quote when I serve one of my less than perfect meals (grilled cheese sandwich, dark side down).

 

[oldironfarmer]

Heck I've eaten those. Ours used to run until we lost 21 chickens in 21 days to a fox feeding her kits. Store bought chickens eat their own droppings among other things.

Yeah, we lost seven in seven days. Something kept breaking into the chicken wire. I felt sorry for the last hen. but I had no place to put her.

These eggs are from my woodcutter. He raises game hens to sell, the eggs are a byproduct and he gives them to us but he has none laying right now

Andy, I have fond memories of the eggs and chickens from my grandparents home. Grandpa made sure the chickens had plenty of feed and crushed oyster shells. City folks (if you can call Fair Haven, Vermont a city) freaked out when they saw a double-yolk or ginormous egg so that's what we kept and ate. Eating an egg that was still warm from the chicken before it went in the pan is a whole different experience that's hard to forget. A chicken raised for its meat under those conditions is also a different experience.

Lot's of good food on the farm. The crushed oyster shells do two things: grit for the gullet to grind up food and calcium for the egg shells. We used to pick up wild duck eggs. Were they not good eating!

do you eat the ones that sometimes have a red dot in the middle?

For those that don't know, a fertilized egg will start growing a baby chick. A little blood turns a lot of people off, but I think of it as a little fried chicken in my egg.

Herb, a red dot in the yolk was a bonus but I refused to eat an egg that had a beak in it. Back in those days margarine was white and came in a plastic bag. The red dot in the middle of the bag had to be broken and kneaded until the margarine turned yellow. The dairy lobby wanted everyone to think "I can believe its not butter."

Grandma also had a "manual" toaster so it was rare to get a slice that wasn't black. Toast was served with the reminder that "Charcoal is good for you." My wife loves to use that quote when I serve one of my less than perfect meals (grilled cheese sandwich, dark side down).

I've never had an egg with a beak And don't want too

I'm way too young to remember tinted oleo.

Did mom teach you how to hide the burned side too? My burned side is usually the second side.

No shed time today. My grandson texted me he wanted me to look at a car for him in Tulsa. I negotiated a little better price and brought it home.

72 Beetle, fiberglass fenders, front discs, twin carburetors, fiberglass running boards, needs TLC.

 

[Bob Heine]

No shed time today. My grandson texted me he wanted me to look at a car for him in Tulsa. I negotiated a little better price and brought it home.

72 Beetle, fiberglass fenders, front discs, twin carburetors, fiberglass running boards, needs TLC.

Andy, you are officially a Great Gandpa!

 

[oldironfarmer]

Thanks! But you know what bug's me? If I had any use for the car I'd talk him out of it. It was fun to test drive. My grandson is a developing car guy. This is probably his tenth car. Or more. I bought his 64-1/2 Mustang to give him some operating capital (I'm not really a Pony guy). He and his dad flew to Oregon and drove back a 74 ElDorado that he sold for a profit. He is currently driving a Ford pickup with a 360 to college. He wants better fuel economy and found this at a bargain. We'll see what's wrong with it. He has also found a six cylinder to put in the pickup, plans on driving the pickup with extra engine in the back up to pick up his Bug then leave the truck and come back later for me to help him sway engines. He says the motor mounts don't match.

I'm kind of proud of him. He is so tight he squeaks.

 

[1/2 Cup]

Done well Andy, you are the man..

 

[BBChevro]

Aarghh!!!! I hate that!

No, nothing that you've done Andy, - I was just putting the finishing touches on a comment...
...when it just disappeared.



Nice bug Andy.


I might post the other stuff I'd written later if I have time - and if it doesn't completely slip my mind (the older I get, the more slippery my mind gets ).


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