Above 1200 Sq/FT Cleaning Up My Shop

[oldironfarmer]

ANDY: even when i'm not feeling well (almost recovered from this damn cold now) i'd read your comments and smile and laugh out loud.

i wonder how many of us drove our cars when we were young (and maybe still do) with both arms out the sunroofs or windows?

speaking of BOB driving or stopping next to somebody and breaking their glass maybe even while going 100MPH doe BOB know he only has one arm. i think not for some reason he does things i can't do and i have two good arms. that BOB is somebody i'd love my little girl to meet some day. they think alike.

well i've got TO DO LISTS to catch up on and just wanted to stop in and say i love how the BROOM ROOM is getting SPIFFED UP and if anything the title of your thread is now ringing true.

cheers and hope you Zumba gets to your paperwork sooner than later!!

I need to go back and study up on Bob's thread. Are you saying he somehow accidentally broke someone's glass with a hammer while driving? Now there you have awesome dexterity skills.

You may be mistaking Bob with someone else. He has two perfectly good arms. The left one with the replaceable hand is in like new shape while the right one is old and worn it is still acceptable for use. He's even been known to give someone a hand.

Guster, Andy and Drives, in my defense I don't have to practice the look anymore. My avatar is from 35 years ago and this is me now (holding a hammer in your armpit can make you grumpy):

As to the "knee steering" days of my youth, smoking a cigarette and drinking a cup of coffee in a 4-speed manual transmission car took a lot of concentration. I always put the coffee down to signal a turn and then execute said turn. I was very careful because none of my cars had cup holders -- signaling and turning while holding a hot cup of coffee in your crotch is a great incentive to be careful. My commute only involved a couple of intersections so most of the hands-free driving was on straight roads. I was never able to attract a car pool for some reason so I was always alone in the car.

Ten years after my train dive I broke my elbow. I was mostly recovered and returned to work after two weeks at home. A co-worker asked to car pool to a meeting in an off-site location. By "mostly recovered" I mean the elbow did not hurt when it was resting or in tension but compression hurt a fair bit -- I don't recall passing out but there was a spectacular sparkly light show whenever I pushed against the joint. When we arrived at the off-site meeting location I had to park the car. I passed up several empty spaces on the left, so my passenger pointed to the next one on the left. When I explained how painful making a left turn was, he didn't respond. He also didn't return from the off-site meeting with me.

To be fair, all my current cars are in compliance with my license. Last time I renewed it, they put "automatic transmission" in the restriction section, without even asking. When I asked about it, the clerk said I could take a full road test if I wanted to prove I could drive stick. Remembering my road test in Sydney 20 years before, I quietly left the building.

Being more safety conscious in my twilight years, I try to think ahead. My newest addition to the fleet is the Cadillac CTS-V. I can put the automatic transmission in "Manual" mode and row through the six gears with the gearshift lever but that means hands-free steering. Instead of using the shift lever, I change gears with the paddle shifters on the steering wheel. When the traction control and stabilitrack are turned off, it's good to drive in "hand-full" mode because the rear end tends to wander under hard acceleration (sometimes necessary for motorcycle safety training).

I submit to the guru of GJ language, sarcasm, and puns.



PS Nice smile Bob! You are indeed photogenic. And you look a lot like an old friend.

 

[Guster]

Here you go Andy... from your thread.

Andy, I love the tomahawk, it looks like a wonderful tool for the pickup. I think my frontal lobe has been slow to mature so I don't have much impulse control. Therefore, I have not applied for a concealed weapon carry permit (also don't want to give my wife any ideas -- this is Florida). I do keep a ball pein hammer under the front seat. It's a more polite response to road rage than a one-finger salute. It also helps to have that crazy old man look that I'm perfecting.

Otherwise.... Thaaaaat's "the look" I'm aiming for buuuuuut probably in another 20 years or so. I'll work up to it in stages else it just won't be as effective for a springchicken like me.

I do get the whole driving with the knee thing. Been there myself, pouring a cuppa from a thermos while coming over a hill into a T-junction at 140kph and suddenly realising you have your hands full.

I'll admit my failure - I was seeing Bob drive from my perspective and missed the whole perspective of left hand drives... I actually need my left hand to shift and use the hand brake over here. The one(ore two) times I had my left arm in a sling was a terrible experience trying to reach over across my body to shift, never mind being stuck in uphill traffic and needing the hand brake. Mind you my companion, whose car I was driving was in a much worse state with left leg and left arm in a cast. Makes you think we were driving back from a ski-field or something.

I have long since changed to automatic though. Holds better resale value over here and I was starting to walk funny with my oversize clutch calf due to all the time spent in gridlock. The Pajero also has the option to override with a syncro shift to go semi manual which provide the means if required.

 

[BBChevro]

Andy everything is looking good. Keep up the good work.

What he said ^^^^


Hey Andy, I just caught up on the thread again - I particularly liked the new shelf (with the brooms hanging below) in the broom & loom room and the various pics of the Chevelle and the '37 in town.
(wow, how diverse is that for taste).

Now, go and melt some alloy (< I couldn't decide on writing "aluminium" or "aluminum" ).

 

[Bob Heine]

My wife just told me she's seen that look on my face. It's the one I have when the bathroom is full and I have to take a dump.

Sorry, I just couldn't pass that up.

Kirk, no need to apologize... you may recall my recent catheter saga. It's a fine line between constipation and anger (another chicken-egg conundrum).

 

[oldironfarmer]

Here you go Andy... from your thread.

OK, thanks! I remember that, but I thought there had been a breakage of glass incident I had missed and was sad.

Otherwise.... Thaaaaat's "the look" I'm aiming for buuuuuut probably in another 20 years or so. I'll work up to it in stages else it just won't be as effective for a springchicken like me.

I do get the whole driving with the knee thing. Been there myself, pouring a cuppa from a thermos while coming over a hill into a T-junction at 140kph and suddenly realising you have your hands full.

I'll admit my failure - I was seeing Bob drive from my perspective and missed the whole perspective of left hand drives... I actually need my left hand to shift and use the hand brake over here. The one(ore two) times I had my left arm in a sling was a terrible experience trying to reach over across my body to shift, never mind being stuck in uphill traffic and needing the hand brake. Mind you my companion, whose car I was driving was in a much worse state with left leg and left arm in a cast. Makes you think we were driving back from a ski-field or something.

I have long since changed to automatic though. Holds better resale value over here and I was starting to walk funny with my oversize clutch calf due to all the time spent in gridlock. The Pajero also has the option to override with a syncro shift to go semi manual which provide the means if required.

So with left hand drive (you know that's a biased statement, we drive on the right side) it's hard to shift if you are holding your girl close. Lot's of girls sitting in the middle of a bench seat had to learn to handle the stick while her fella pushed the pedals or the driver had to reach through the steering wheel to shift. Not good. Letting go of the girl was just not an option. My 1950 Chevrolet had column shift. So I took the shift rod loose down at the shift gates under the hood and filed a new notch so it could be rotated 180 degrees. Then I could keep my right arm around her and shift with my left hand. The only downside was the weight of the lever could occasionally pull the transmission out of third gear. It was amazing that most people just could not understand how to shift it, even though the pattern did not change, it was just upside down on the left side. Since I'm left handed it was a natural for me.

What he said ^^^^


Hey Andy, I just caught up on the thread again - I particularly liked the new shelf (with the brooms hanging below) in the broom & loom room and the various pics of the Chevelle and the '37 in town.
(wow, how diverse is that for taste).

Now, go and melt some alloy (< I couldn't decide on writing "aluminium" or "aluminum" ).

Glad you like the shelf. I've been needing to make that for years. Just before a show I get swamped with brooms and they keep falling over. Broom loom and sock knitting machine room.

Doctors today and visitors tomorrow (I'm fixing lunch) so shed time is waiting until the last Saturday of this week.

I can't decide what I like some times, I still love driving old tractors.

I did stop by my propane supplier to see if they had a 15 psi regulator (11 ounces for normal home use) and not only did they, the owner gave me one. Said something about me being able to use more propane with a foundry

Kirk, no need to apologize... you may recall my recent catheter saga. It's a fine line between constipation and anger (another chicken-egg conundrum).

 

[dlcwent]

Sorry Andy, sometimes other people here on your thread easily steal the show from you. This is one of those times. Bob once again has taken center stage and has all of our attention. You have time to go out for coffee.

Glad to see you've actually have gotten a few things done lately. More than I can say as I've been shoveling snow ( better than cow ****) for the last three days.

Be forewarned, I'll be back.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Sorry Andy, sometimes other people here on your thread easily steal the show from you. This is one of those times. Bob once again has taken center stage and has all of our attention. You have time to go out for coffee.

What better than to throw a party at your own place and have folks show up and make it a real party whether you're there or not? It doesn't get any better than that.

If I invited anybody who wanted to, to come over and Lucille Ball and Rodney Dangerfield showed up and started cracking jokes how cool would that be? And I've had Footloose Bob stop in!!

(You know Bob can really "toe the line")

Glad to see you've actually have gotten a few things done lately. More than I can say as I've been shoveling snow ( better than cow ****) for the last three days.

Be forewarned, I'll be back.

Ummm.... not sure what you mean that shoveling snow is better than cow manure? I mean, did you ever take a snow cloud to town and bring back cash? Granted snow is good for the garden, and I've never tried to grill up a thick slice of snow cloud. Sounds tasty but not much nourishment. A cow on the other hand...

You'll be back, and I'll just be lazing around here seeing what turns up next (got a handle on that?)

 

[Bob Heine]

I do get the whole driving with the knee thing. Been there myself, pouring a cuppa from a thermos while coming over a hill into a T-junction at 140kph and suddenly realising you have your hands full.

I'll admit my failure - I was seeing Bob drive from my perspective and missed the whole perspective of left hand drives... I actually need my left hand to shift and use the hand brake over here. The one(ore two) times I had my left arm in a sling was a terrible experience trying to reach over across my body to shift, never mind being stuck in uphill traffic and needing the hand brake. Mind you my companion, whose car I was driving was in a much worse state with left leg and left arm in a cast. Makes you think we were driving back from a ski-field or something.

Guster, sometimes I have to rely on the kindness of strangers. OK, kindness of friends. When four of our friends visited us in Australia, I drove them around in our Toyota Camry. Luckily one of our guests had to dive the Barrier Reef so most of the time we were legal with five belted-in passengers. All six of us then flew to New Zealand (friends left a day early to visit the North Island). To be able to comfortably sightsee I rented a van. Turns out rental vans in New Zealand are all standard shift. I did the shifting thing for the first day and it was quite a thrill. When our friends arrived, my good buddy sat in the passenger seat and did the shifting for me. Within five minutes it was like I had a left hand. Without a word from either of us, we were upshifting and downshifting perfectly. The South Island is mountainous and the van was somewhat underpowered so there was quite a bit of rowing to get the right ratio to maintain forward movement, especially during the climb to the Mt. Hut ski resort. Here's a photo of us on the way to the mountain, with my "shifty" buddy on the right. It's hard to break old habits -- he's about to get in on the American passenger side and gets upset when he finds the steering wheel in the way. He was pretty sure he could drive in traffic but staying to the left on empty roads was mind-boggling for him.

 

[don long]

Hey Andy
We do have something in common I'm left handed too.

 

[don long]

Hey Andy
We do have something in common I'm left handed too. And Bob you look great

 

[drivesitfar]

ANDY: so am i really reading that YOU BBQ COW MANURE?? i've heard stories about BUFFALO CHIPS, but thought they were used for building stuff. i think i need to hear more about the value of COW ****.

i know ZOO DOO from our local WOODLAND PARK ZOO is so popular they have a lottery to see who GETS TO buy it for their gardens in SEATTLE.

did I say BOB busted a window while driving?

BOB: i did save that picture to my laptop and it might be my screensaver, but i promise i won't use it for my AVATAR. CHEERS!!

 

[oldironfarmer]

Guster, sometimes I have to rely on the kindness of strangers. OK, kindness of friends. When four of our friends visited us in Australia, I drove them around in our Toyota Camry. Luckily one of our guests had to dive the Barrier Reef so most of the time we were legal with five belted-in passengers. All six of us then flew to New Zealand (friends left a day early to visit the North Island). To be able to comfortably sightsee I rented a van. Turns out rental vans in New Zealand are all standard shift. I did the shifting thing for the first day and it was quite a thrill. When our friends arrived, my good buddy sat in the passenger seat and did the shifting for me. Within five minutes it was like I had a left hand. Without a word from either of us, we were upshifting and downshifting perfectly. The South Island is mountainous and the van was somewhat underpowered so there was quite a bit of rowing to get the right ratio to maintain forward movement, especially during the climb to the Mt. Hut ski resort. Here's a photo of us on the way to the mountain, with my "shifty" buddy on the right. It's hard to break old habits -- he's about to get in on the American passenger side and gets upset when he finds the steering wheel in the way. He was pretty sure he could drive in traffic but staying to the left on empty roads was mind-boggling for him.

I had a girlfriend who could shift as good as I could, except she would grab it and shift before I was ready sometimes so I had to pay attention and get the clutch in before we got to the next gear. Of course it was my fault if we ground gears going around a corner because she wanted to shift.

Hey Andy
We do have something in common I'm left handed too.

That's funny! You've heard 10% of the population is left handed, and 30% of statesmen and scientists. And 90% of those who are institutionalized. You can draw your own conclusions.

Hey Andy
We do have something in common I'm left handed too. And Bob you look great

That's funny! You've heard 10% of the population is left handed, and 30% of statesmen and scientists. And 90% of those who are institutionalized. You can draw your own conclusions.

And Bob looks left handed...

 

[oldironfarmer]

ANDY: so am i really reading that YOU BBQ COW MANURE?? i've heard stories about BUFFALO CHIPS, but thought they were used for building stuff. i think i need to hear more about the value of COW ****.

You're just going to have to get management to read aloud to you.

I mentioned grilling snow clouds, not snow. Snow clouds make snow. I grill cows (in my never ending quest to get the truth) not cow poop. Cows make cow ****. If I am going to have cows to take to town and sell, or to eat, I have to deal with cow snow (that which falls out of the aforementioned source of grilling delight).

i know ZOO DOO from our local WOODLAND PARK ZOO is so popular they have a lottery to see who GETS TO buy it for their gardens in SEATTLE.

Lion pellets are said to be excellent at repelling deer. Apparently deer are inborn with a healthy respect for the presence of big cats. I have a healthy respect for big cats. And big CATS.

did I say BOB busted a window while driving?

I may have inferred that, but that is what I took away from our in depth discussion.

BOB: i did save that picture to my laptop and it might be my screensaver, but i promise i won't use it for my AVATAR. CHEERS!!

I too have saved it to my computer. And it is also my screen saver. I'm thinking it can prevent computer theft and maybe even identity theft. Do you really want to be Bob?

 

[oldironfarmer]

I had a little activity yesterday. Went out to feed hay and realized when wadding up the twine off the bale that there could be a minor amount of OCD inhibiting my activity.

All of my five little calves came in the corral when their moms came in to eat, so we had a little rodeo.

That's my son in law in the chute banding bull calves to create steer calves. Don't ask if you don't want to know. Then everybody got ear tags.

That's the bull there with his head up (an aggressive stance), probably trying to impress the ladies that he cares for their babies. Notice how he's focused on me, Dan.

And I think I missed posting the shelves I made for my sink area in the planer and sink room. The goal was to get stuff off the floor and to provide a place to hang wet freshly washed paint brushes.

 

[Finallygotit]

That's the bull there with his head up (an aggressive stance), probably trying to impress the ladies that he cares for their babies. Notice how he's focused on me, Dan.

Yep, I noticed!

 

[oldironfarmer]

If he had dipped his head to challenge me I would have gone right over that panel to remind him I am the boss and he is just a challenger. I can't let him challenge me without a response, he doesn't know I'm just ignoring him, he thinks I'm not up to his challenge which will escalate the challenges. He just does not understand how a little guy like me could get those calves separated do what I want.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Had a nice lunch with our visitors then went to work on the burner. Then had another visitor. I don't mind, but progress suffers.

I'm following the dimensions for a mini-mongo burner. However it is designed for assembly using common pipe fittings. Which I don't have. I could have bought some however I prefer to use what I have if I can make it work without too much trouble. The judgment of whether "it was too much trouble" appears to not be universally dispensed in this world. We'll see how this goes.

First I need an 1-1/4" pipe for the fire tube. What I have is a little small, some 1-1/4" ID tubing (pipe measures about 1-3/8" ID) but it will work. It came out of a well and has been laying outside for years so it needs cleaned up. I bored out the end to make a clean surface to fit the nozzle into.

The bore cleaned up at 1.255". Now I need a piece of steel over 1.255" that will clean up to that dimension. I have a 1.375" valve stem but I don't have much large (for me) diameter bar so I'll try to find something else. I've got lots of bar up to 1-1/8" and could use some heavy pipe to sleeve over a 7/8" bar. But I have lots of sucker rod ends which have a large flange on them. So I elected to use one of them.

The end was crooked so I spent some time cleaning it up. Large diameter cleaned up at 1.002", small piece at a little over 5/8" (meaning I can't remember).

This piece holds the propane nozzle so it needs a hole all the way through. It's about 5-1/2" so I went as far as I could from the first side, and made it 2-7/8" deep with a 1/4" drill bit. It gets reamed to 7/16" to tap for 1/4" pipe thread on this end but the other end has a 1/4-28 straight thread (MIG contact tip) so it only gets a #3 drill. First pass will be 3/16" bit. As deep as I can go:

Drill bit backed out the last time:

When you get that deep with a drill bit it has to be withdrawn regularly to get rid of chips. About every 0.2". And oiled liberally, but the tough part is over (no broken drill bit to remove).

Next step is to ream and tap, and I'm not sure the small diameter is big enough for a 1/4" pipe tap. We'll see. Next turn it around and drill through, ream and tap and turn the flange down to press fit into the burner tube.

 

[BUGTHUG]

So did you have mountain oysters for supper?

 

[krcoomer]

That's funny! You've heard 10% of the population is left handed, and 30% of statesmen and scientists. And 90% of those who are institutionalized. You can draw your own conclusions.

When I was in college I would proctor the standardized exams through the university's testing center for extra cash. Most of the certification exams were on Saturday mornings. The ones for social workers were always a nightmare because it seemed 90% of them were left handed and they ALL wanted a left handed desk and every one of them KNEW their right to said left handed desk. We would raid other buildings's lecture halls for left handed desks. 0700 on a Saturday morning and there are 3 or 4 guys hauling left handed desks across campus.

 

[Bob Heine]

I'm left handed in my dreams.

 

[oldironfarmer]

So did you have mountain oysters for supper?

Nyet. We band them so there is no blood and no pain. At least for me.

When I was in college I would proctor the standardized exams through the university's testing center for extra cash. Most of the certification exams were on Saturday mornings. The ones for social workers were always a nightmare because it seemed 90% of them were left handed and they ALL wanted a left handed desk and every one of them KNEW their right to said left handed desk. We would raid other buildings's lecture halls for left handed desks. 0700 on a Saturday morning and there are 3 or 4 guys hauling left handed desks across campus.

So we all know which groups have a 90% incidence of lefthandedness.

I'm left handed in my dreams.

That's weird... But I don't want to talk about my dreams except that I dream vigorously every night.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Lot's of QST today!

Back to the burner:

I was going to tap the supply end but it was just too small by the time I got it straightened out. So I cut it down to use a die on and cut an external 1/4" pipe thread.

I have a 1/4" pipe die but no holder. I do have a 3/4" pipe die and handle but it is much larger so I set about to make a bushing. This is what I came up with for raw materials.

I went ahead and turned the work around and trimmed the flange to match the burner tube, also cut the threads off this end.

Then drilled it out with a 3/16" drill. This is where I broke through to the other end, 3/8" to spare. Now there is a hole all the way through.

About 2-5/8" drilled.

Then drilled an inch with #3 drill and tapped it for 1/4-28.

Test fit the MIG contact tip that is going to be the fuel orifice/nozzle.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Turned the large bushing to fit in the die holder. Turned the small bushing to fit in the large bushing with a press fit, pressed it in and welded it on one end. I have a nice TIG welder I have not unpacked so here i am making a small weld with 1/8" stick.

Almost all of the weld needed to be turned off anyway.

Needed another set screw so I turned down a grade 5 cap screw. Not a good set screw but good enough to hold a die in place.

Drilled through the bushing in two locations so the set screws would bear on the die. Ready to cut threads.

Started cutting threads in the lathe and finished in the vise.

Drilled four 13/16" holes in the burner tube

And drilled and tapped the burner tube for set screws.

Here are all the pieces for the burner

And I finally got it all together!

Still need to add a set screw to the sliding sleeve used to adjust the air intake to achieve a neutral flame. With any luck I'll get to burn some propane tomorrow, then start on the furnace construction.

 

[BBChevro]

Nice work Andy.

 

[1/2 Cup]

Unreal Andy, you have done that well..

 

[Vieux]

Great burner turned out!

 

[Bob Heine]

Andy, I'm guessing that is going to make some noise. Soothing for you and the cows and far enough away from sissy neighbors who don't share your love of blast furnaces.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Nice work Andy.

Thanks!

Unreal Andy, you have done that well..

Thank you!

Great burner turned out!

Looking forward to getting it afire!

Andy, I'm guessing that is going to make some noise. Soothing for you and the cows and far enough away from sissy neighbors who don't share your love of blast furnaces.

You know I used to be 1/2 mile from any neighbors, then I sold my son in law ten acres 1/4 mile away, then sold a friend ten acres across the street. But I warned them, they have obnoxious neighbors. I call my cows early every morning at the top of my lungs. So far no complaints.

The cows take a lot of time (like GJ!) and some days I think of selling them and renting the pasture out. Not much money either way. Then I go out this morning and admire these little guys and would not want to miss that pleasure.

Thanks for the visits, guys!

 

[Guster]

All too familiar with helping with the manual/stick shift when I was younger. Always one bloke who turns up with a small ute/pickup and needing to get three or four lads in the front seat. At least they still had bench seats back then.

Lads let me drive back once(designated driver - lost the coin toss) and had a girl sit close next to me who insisted I keep doing the shifting. Just glad nobody noticed how red my ears were that night!

That's the bull there with his head up (an aggressive stance), probably trying to impress the ladies that he cares for their babies. Notice how he's focused on me, Dan.

That bull is meaning to 'misbehave' with you. That is definitely a stare I would love to master too. BTW, how do you remind him who's boss? Flick on the nose or something?

Nice score on the regulator. So handy having a supply of burner jets(MIG tips) on hand eh? Used to take me forever drilling small holes in material with care not to break a small drill.

 

[realvc]

I know nothing about machine shop type equipment so that is where my questions come from.
Did you chuck a drill chuck in your lathe to drill your burner parts? If so does the drill bit turn and the part turn at the same time only in different directions? Thinking about some more I guess the part does not turn and just the drill bit or vice versa?

Your thread is very interesting and educational.

I enjoy your livestock pictures and stories as much as the auto and shop related reports.

Thanks for the ongoing education and enjoyment.

 

[Craptain]

I know nothing about machine shop type equipment so that is where my questions come from.
Did you chuck a drill chuck in your lathe to drill your burner parts? If so does the drill bit turn and the part turn at the same time only in different directions? Thinking about some more I guess the part does not turn and just the drill bit or vice versa?

Your thread is very interesting and educational.

I enjoy your livestock pictures and stories as much as the auto and shop related reports.

Thanks for the ongoing education and enjoyment.

OIF is not here right now so I will offer the typical method.
The part is chucked in the lathe chuck. Then a drill chuck which is on a Morse taper is mounted in the tailstock. This does not rotate. The drill bit is mounted and then advanced using the tailstock into the work.
Remember that the drilling action occurs due to the relative motion of bit versus workpiece so it doesn't matter which is turning as long as the speeds are appropriate and in the correct direction.


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[oldironfarmer]

All too familiar with helping with the manual/stick shift when I was younger. Always one bloke who turns up with a small ute/pickup and needing to get three or four lads in the front seat. At least they still had bench seats back then.

Lads let me drive back once(designated driver - lost the coin toss) and had a girl sit close next to me who insisted I keep doing the shifting. Just glad nobody noticed how red my ears were that night!

Did you ever wash your elbow after that trip?

That bull is meaning to 'misbehave' with you. That is definitely a stare I would love to master too. BTW, how do you remind him who's boss? Flick on the nose or something?

If he had dipped his head at me I would have been right over the fence, something he doesn't know he can do, and as long as he turns and flees we're good. Like dogs they occasionally test to see if you are still boss.

Nice score on the regulator. So handy having a supply of burner jets(MIG tips) on hand eh? Used to take me forever drilling small holes in material with care not to break a small drill.

The gentleman who owns the propane company (a large firm with many locations) happened to wait on me, to my benefit. His help does not have the leeway that he does. Actually I bought these tips for the job. The tapered ones are perfect to induce air into the burner. They are so cheap. I bought 0.023" so I can ream them out if necessary. And my welding supply gave me two 0.035" tips which is what I used.

I know nothing about machine shop type equipment so that is where my questions come from.
Did you chuck a drill chuck in your lathe to drill your burner parts? If so does the drill bit turn and the part turn at the same time only in different directions? Thinking about some more I guess the part does not turn and just the drill bit or vice versa?

Your thread is very interesting and educational.

I enjoy your livestock pictures and stories as much as the auto and shop related reports.

Thanks for the ongoing education and enjoyment.

Thanks for your comments! Craptain already took care of business.

Glad the cow stuff is not too off topic!

OIF is not here right now so I will offer the typical method.
The part is chucked in the lathe chuck. Then a drill chuck which is on a Morse taper is mounted in the tailstock. This does not rotate. The drill bit is mounted and then advanced using the tailstock into the work.
Remember that the drilling action occurs due to the relative motion of bit versus workpiece so it doesn't matter which is turning as long as the speeds are appropriate and in the correct direction.


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Thanks for the description! It is fun for me to drill on the lathe. Since the drill bit is not rotating you can see exactly what is happening, how the chips look coming out, and easy to brush off and oil without stopping the lathe. It would take forever to drill a small hole through 5-1/2" of steel on a drill press.

Thanks for the visits, and the help!

 

[oldironfarmer]

What a great day in the shed! After finishing lunch I thought I'd fire the burner right up, but everything had to be disassembled and threaded joints doped, assembled and pressure tested. It's one thing running a weed burner on a twenty pound cylinder, a big nozzle on a 200 gallon tank deserves a little extra caution. I even put on my fire retardant clothing from my refinery days just in case things got out of hand, and brought a fire extinguisher out.

But first I had to put a set screw in the air adjuster and make an end diffuser to speed up the mixture. This helps keep the flame at the end of the burner, not back in the burner tube. The guide I was using recommended a 1:12 taper and it is not critical that it be a tight fit. So the heavy large tubing I have fits with about a 0.030" gap and I used it for the air control (left) and the diffuser (right). It was thick enough I got a couple of inches of taper.

Set it on some blocks and lit it off.

It fired right up, no flashback, stable flame from the first

And surprisingly quiet, Bob!

I could use another ten feet of hose.

Getting just a hint of yellow in the picture, I could not see that in the daylight.

I couldn't help myself. Let the burner run for a while and I collected some firebrick, built a little furnace and set my steel pipe crucible in it and started melting aluminum cans

Worked fine turned down a little, and melted about 40 cans. Made 2-1/2 muffins.

Aluminum cans have residue inside, printing ink and lacquer, and they make lots of slag. The muffins can be remelted with much less slag next time to make a casting. Got to build a good furnace next!

 

[1/2 Cup]

Andy, that's way to cool ( or should I say hot stuff )

 

[Grumblebum]

Andy, that's way to cool ( or should I say hot stuff )

x2

 

[oldironfarmer]

I took a video of lighting the burner the first time. Nothing exciting.

 

[dlcwent]

Hey Andy, I finally got it. .

The lathe work is turning me upside down as mine is still sitting idle. When will that change?..........When I stop being so lazy Andy.

I love the flame thrower you made. But I think your muffins are going to be a little on the tuff side. My one question to you is....why not make square ingots? They stack better.

Gotta run, so much to do and so little time.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy, that's way to cool ( or should I say hot stuff )

Thank you, sir! A goal I've had for many years, to be able to cast metal. Why, I'm not sure. It's just an extension of blacksmithing - being able to make something that otherwise seems out of reach to the common person at home. But now I have to hurry, 3D printers will soon make all this work nonsense. Like broom making.

I am extremely pleased to have the space and have to take the time to get the tooling built to be able to cast aluminum, aluminium, brass, bronze, and maybe iron. Not too sure about iron, where would I find raw materials?

x2

Thank you! One of my first projects is intended to be a little brass ball peen hammer - so one can pound out gaskets without any damage to the gasket surface.

Hey Andy, I finally got it. .

The lathe work is turning me upside down as mine is still sitting idle. When will that change?..........When I stop being so lazy Andy.

I love the flame thrower you made. But I think your muffins are going to be a little on the tuff side. My one question to you is....why not make square ingots? They stack better.

Gotta run, so much to do and so little time.

Lazy Andy may be in your blood. One suggestion: quit waiting for the precision level, level it best you can and turn some punches out of bolts. It won't hurt the lathe and it will get your feet wet. Once you get started you'll step over to the lathe to make press tooling that fits exactly right when you need it.

The muffins aren't tuff if you're man enough to drink the water around here.

Square ingots would be nice, but I have a round ingot multiple spot form. I may look for a nine mini loaf pan. That's a great idea. The ingots need to be small enough to use in remelting, hopefully use one, two, or three, etc. based on how much metal the mold requires instead of making a big melt each time. I poured these a bit large, I should have filled the muffin tin half full to allow for rising and give me smaller coupons to work with. So I don't want one large mold for ingots.

Can you tell I'm eat up with foundry work at the moment?

I've got lots of equipment to make: flasks, mold bench, furnace, tongs, etc. and then can start making patterns. For my little hammer I want a pattern with a core so I get a good tapered hole for the handle right out of the mold.

Annnnnd it's SATURDAY!!

 

[Vieux]

I see that the tests were successful

 

[krcoomer]

The muffins aren't tuff if you're man enough to drink the water around here.

Square ingots would be nice, but I have a round ingot multiple spot form. I may look for a nine mini loaf pan. That's a great idea. The ingots need to be small enough to use in remelting, hopefully use one, two, or three, etc. based on how much metal the mold requires instead of making a big melt each time. I poured these a bit large, I should have filled the muffin tin half full to allow for rising and give me smaller coupons to work with. So I don't want one large mold for ingots.

Can you tell I'm eat up with foundry work at the moment?

I've got lots of equipment to make: flasks, mold bench, furnace, tongs, etc. and then can start making patterns. For my little hammer I want a pattern with a core so I get a good tapered hole for the handle right out of the mold.

Annnnnd it's SATURDAY!!

Andy: Glad to be along for the ride as you get your forge and foundry business up and running. The round ingots should fit in a piece of 3" PVC pipe for stacking. When you get your mini ingot mold from the dollar store, a 1 1/2" piece should work. Cap the ends for storage.

You said you have to allow room for rising, but you did not mention if you used self-rising, yeast or baking powder for your muffins.

Have a good day and enjoy your Saturday. I am off to finish up what I couldn't on everyone else's Saturday (electrical supply house was closed and the box stores didn't carry the breaker I needed).