Above 1200 Sq/FT Cleaning Up My Shop

[dreamingmuscle]

New math came about too late even for my son to learn it. I learned my ciphers with chalk on a small board

I wasn't taught it in school either. But when I was shown how it was done by a frustrated teacher well into my adulthood. I was shocked because thats how I've done simple math +-×&÷ in my head forever.

Like I said before I wouldn't recommend it to everyone but it works well for my simple mind.

Glen

 

[oldironfarmer]

Hey Andy. I probably won't be able to catch up on all that I've missed over the past few weeks. But as usual, you are still amazing me. I've always wanted a rotisserie but never did anything but dream about it. I'm sure you'll be loving it.

Hope you have a good doctor's visit (if there is such a thing)

Thanks for stopping in. Hope all is well up your way. I keep looking out the driveway expecting you to turn in any day...

We had a great doctor's checkup. We go together and have a joint checkup. I'm not too sure they like me, though, they always laugh at me.

Andy I can't wait to see this monster rotisserie come to life. When I did the work on my truck cab I welded in the rockers first and then flipped her on her back to do the bottom and top of the cab.

I feel fortunate that my truck has available patch panels for just about everything as you are hand making yours. I have been welding up patches on my front fenders and now bed panels the last couple of days.

Bret

I haven't been over on your thread in ages, I'll have to try to find my way.

There are panels available for the Studebaker I'm not buying as they are just too much money. As time goes by you may see me buying more. I have bought running boards and the brace underneath which totaled $500. I didn't buy floor boards.

I keep having to turn this cab back and forth to figure out how to cut it apart. I might be better on my second one. Hope it works like I want it to.

I'm definitely going to follow the rotisserie build. I've got some plans in the back of my mind where this could come in handy.

Glad you're interested. Hope my effort doesn't disappoint...

What I find amazing is that if Andy needs to build something, he walks out in the field to find his supplies and raw materials.

I have collected junk for years. Of course what I build then has to be designed around junk I have available. So sometimes my stuff looks a little funny because of what I had. I hate to go buy stuff for two reasons: money and the time it takes to round it up. One of the few disadvantages of living out in the sticks.

Andy: I hope your Dr. appt. goes well today!!

i didn't know if all those twisters and tornadoes kept the rat, mice and general rodent population in your part of the world under control, but it sounds like you have the same issues all of us do and you call it just life's little challenges and deal with it likes its no big deal.

of course if you told everybody that working out a little every week would extend their life they'd want to start a discussion telling you why it wouldn't rather than working out and some just have to see the results and you sir have plenty of energy even with your health issues that seem to be doing ok now.

even though i try to help some of the guys to quit drinking Soda i'd still probably reach for a dime and buy a Coke if i ever show up at your place to have a drink with you.

have a great day.

We have fun on our appointments. But we had heavy rain today, so it was a struggle to get my wife in and out dry. I got soaked getting the wheelchair out of the back of the car. It's just a two ******** and I had to set the umbrella down.

I've still never seen a tornado live. We don't have all that many, and they're pretty small compared to a hurricane.

I'm hoping you'll stop by and desecrate your body with a Coke.

I think the same thing!

Everybody has a junk pile, don't they?

Andy, its going to take me a month of Sundays to catch up with what you have been up to of late but I will get there.

Your rotisserie build looks the goods and you will not know yourself when its finished...

Regards

So glad to see you up and around, Legendary 1/2 Cup.

To save energy, my advice is to sit down while visiting GJ.

I'm hoping the rotisserie will work well.

I wasn't taught it in school either. But when I was shown how it was done by a frustrated teacher well into my adulthood. I was shocked because thats how I've done simple math +-×&÷ in my head forever.

Like I said before I wouldn't recommend it to everyone but it works well for my simple mind.

Glen

Maybe I need to look up New Math. My dad taught me how to do mental arithmetic, he was really quick and very accurate.

Thanks for stopping by, guys!!

 

[oldironfarmer]

After our doctor's appointments this morning I got some QST.

Cut and notched the two 2" uprights and the two 2-1/2" sleeves.

Then drilled holes every 3" on my big drill press.

The mill has a digital readout so it is very easy to step the bit over 3.000" to center drill, then pilot drill, then finish drill (1/2" here).

Welded the drilled 2" pipe on

Set a sleeve on a post, then laid a pipe stub on top. There will be a couple of holes in the sleeve to adjust height, and the stub on top will hold the spindle to attach to the cab.

All in all pretty simple. I'm not sure how much height adjustment I'll need, but now was the time to drill holes accurately.

Tomorrow I have another distraction. Our friend who passed away used to take my wife to a Thursday morning brunch with other ladies at a local restaurant. My wife has decided she wants to go back so I'll take her tomorrow morning. I've got casters on the way so it's looking like I'll be done before they get here. Screwups notwithstanding.

 

[dreamingmuscle]

I was in Pawnee this morning and at my bosses ranch just south of Pawnee. His ponds are way up with the rain they had. The 7 acre corp of engineer pond is almost up 40 feet and is closer to 15 acres he thinks. Whole trees are under water, and the 18" over flow pipe which is pouring out the bottom of dam a good 60 foot down isn't even making a ripple on the surface. The pond over flowed the spill way too. All his other ponds topped their spill way also. He is going to have to have some dozer work on one because of the erosion on the back side

 

[oldironfarmer]

I was in Pawnee this morning and at my bosses ranch just south of Pawnee. His ponds are way up with the rain they had. The 7 acre corp of engineer pond is almost up 40 feet and is closer to 15 acres he thinks. Whole trees are under water, and the 18" over flow pipe which is pouring out the bottom of dam a good 60 foot down isn't even making a ripple on the surface. The pond over flowed the spill way too. All his other ponds topped their spill way also. He is going to have to have some dozer work on one because of the erosion on the back side

Pawnee had about 7" of rain in 24 hours, I think, Hallett had over 10", and we only got about 3". It was plenty, let me tell you.

I worked hard today but not much to show for it.

Trimmed and drilled the outside sleeves for the rotisserie pivots. Quick test fit to make sure all the holes line up all the way through.

Looks like they will line up. Holes in the upright are 3" apart, two pair of holes in the sleeve, 1-1/2" offset so I can get two bolts in and adjust the height in 1-1/2" increments. Don't need that fine adjustment, I suppose, but it was easy to do while the sleeve was all lined up in the mill.

Also cut the two pivot sleeves and pivot pipes themselves. And the casters I ordered three days ago arrived today. WOW!

Decided it was time to get the sprocket off the old mower conditioner. Got the retaining bolt out but the spline is rusted tight.

I have a breaker bar made out of an old buggy axle, I stuck it down behind the sprocket to pry with and also tried driving it between the back of the sprocket and the bearing collar. The end of the bar is a nice wedge shape.

It is not budging. I had a little propane torch to warm the hub some, but I need to load my cutting torch and cut the shaft off, or cut the center of the sprocket out. We've had so much rain I need to give it a couple of days before taking my truck back there or have Bob haul the torch for me.

More tomorrow!

 

[dreamingmuscle]

Well how is your WPA water outlet repair holding up.

 

[Farmall450]

I too am envious of your steelyard...er...junk pile out back.

Hopefully brunch went well.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Well how is your WPA water outlet repair holding up.

I haven't been to the water outlet after the big rain. Maybe I'll wander down there in a couple of days. It looked good a few days ago after some light rains. It will probably take a year for any settling to show up where we might not have compacted well.

I too am envious of your steelyard...er...junk pile out back.

Hopefully brunch went well.

It's junk until it's used, I guess. The junk farm equipment has some good steel, but a lot of it is new enough that it has high strength materials which are a little harder to work with.

My wife had a great time with the ladies and I went grocery shopping and ran a couple of other errands.

I sweet talked Bob and he agreed to haul the cutting torch out to the haybine.

I had to reach through the holes to cut the shaft off, took a little time and made a mess. But it came off.

Normally I don't like cutting shafts and could have eventually got the sprocket off. However this sprocket is on the end of a 12 ft auger which is all bent up. I paid $200 for the haybine in 1985 and used it a couple of years. It has a 12 ft cut which was really too wide for fields I have to get into. I've scavenged lots of parts off it over the years. It owes me nothing at this point. Still has lots of iron.

Also cut off a couple of idlers. One is solid teeth but worn too much to use, the other is stamped two piece so I may or may not use it for my drive sprocket.

The hub was welded from one side only so I cut it out and mounted the sprocket in the mill. Ground a narrow cutter with a radius to cut through the plate.

Plate was very hard (designed to wear well against the chain). Had to sharpen the cutter three times to get through. It is cut through here, but the cutter was dull and just pushing the metal instead of cutting it. It will come out easily with a hammer and chisel.

That's a 2-3/8" hole so the sprocket should slip right on the pivot pipe.

Couple of weeks ago I went to see a new doctor. He gave me a clean bill of health, but we got to talking. He and his 15 year old son are coming out tomorrow to do some foundry work...

Thanks for stopping in.

 

[bolensboneyard]

I haven't been to the water outlet after the big rain. Maybe I'll wander down there in a couple of days. It looked good a few days ago after some light rains. It will probably take a year for any settling to show up where we might not have compacted well.



It's junk until it's used, I guess. The junk farm equipment has some good steel, but a lot of it is new enough that it has high strength materials which are a little harder to work with.

My wife had a great time with the ladies and I went grocery shopping and ran a couple of other errands.

I sweet talked Bob and he agreed to haul the cutting torch out to the haybine.

I had to reach through the holes to cut the shaft off, took a little time and made a mess. But it came off.

Normally I don't like cutting shafts and could have eventually got the sprocket off. However this sprocket is on the end of a 12 ft auger which is all bent up. I paid $200 for the haybine in 1985 and used it a couple of years. It has a 12 ft cut which was really too wide for fields I have to get into. I've scavenged lots of parts off it over the years. It owes me nothing at this point. Still has lots of iron.

Also cut off a couple of idlers. One is solid teeth but worn too much to use, the other is stamped two piece so I may or may not use it for my drive sprocket.

The hub was welded from one side only so I cut it out and mounted the sprocket in the mill. Ground a narrow cutter with a radius to cut through the plate.

Plate was very hard (designed to wear well against the chain). Had to sharpen the cutter three times to get through. It is cut through here, but the cutter was dull and just pushing the metal instead of cutting it. It will come out easily with a hammer and chisel.

That's a 2-3/8" hole so the sprocket should slip right on the pivot pipe.

Couple of weeks ago I went to see a new doctor. He gave me a clean bill of health, but we got to talking. He and his 15 year old son are coming out tomorrow to do some foundry work...

Thanks for stopping in.

Andy need to spring for a Plasma Arc!

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy need to spring for a Plasma Arc!

I do have a plasma torch. Of course I keep it in the shop, as hauling air and electricity out to the pasture is a job. As far as cutting the hole in the sprocket, I did not want to make a cut then spend a lot of time grinding, and high alloy material can be very hard to machine after thermal cutting of any kind. I'm not good enough with a torch or plasma to avoid either a lot of grinding or a sloppy cut. I really should buy a circle jig for the plasma.

The surgeon showed up with his 15 year old son, both were proper gentlemen. they liked the caboose and stayed five hours, touring the shop then melting aluminum and we made two hammer heads. They rammed the sand in their hammer form.

I got interested in the work and forgot to take any pictures, although the good doctor broadcast to Facebook live.

Late in the day got a bit of work done. Here is the sprocket upside down. You can see how the dull tool was pushing metal through.

It came out with a few blows of the hammer and took minimal grinding.

Finished up the sleeves and put grease zerks in them

Welded the pivot in the sprocket and slid the sleeve on it. Now we're ready to figure out how to put a crank on with an adjustment to keep the chain tight.

More tomorrow, I should finish by Saturday

 

[Craptain]

I love the way you work Andy. It is the same way that I work but on a grander scale. Not too many of us work without a plan or design on paper. But I, and apparently you too, visualize and then create as you move along.

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[oldironfarmer]

I love the way you work Andy. It is the same way that I work but on a grander scale. Not too many of us work without a plan or design on paper. But I, and apparently you too, visualize and then create as you move along.

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Interesting. Some stuff I try to draw, but I guess you're right, by the time you've got it worked out in your mind just do it. I did do a layout on the width of the floor supports to make sure something mounted on 3' and 5' pivot heights would still clear the floor supports if they clear the floor. No issue.

Not much work today but tomorrow's SATURDAY!!

 

[Guster]

Hehe... gone for a few days and now Andy is building a car lathe!

I like where this is going.

 

[gordyy]

great work on the rotisserie turning thing.
I love your parts dept. my shop is on a small 12 acre horse hobby farm and the buddy who owns its wife is not a fan of a large parts dept I get one stalls worth of parts collection so I have to scrap way to much good iron.
Id come down and try to help but my 3rd knee is not doing near as good as my first knee when they said it needed to be replaced (it got that way with a lot of help of the people at workers comp trying to help me)
keep up the good work and I hope you get done by Saturday.
My life is mostly Sundays now I only dream of Saturdays

 

[oldironfarmer]

I love the way you work Andy. It is the same way that I work but on a grander scale. Not too many of us work without a plan or design on paper. But I, and apparently you too, visualize and then create as you move along.

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I am an engineer, so I suppose I should draw everything up first. I did sketch a couple of things to make sure the dimensions would work out.

This was to assure myself the adjustable height would get the desired results.

And this was to make sure I could get the 36" to 60" height adjustment I wanted out of one sleeve (I couldn't, so adjusted the dimensions for a good compromise)

Hehe... gone for a few days and now Andy is building a car lathe!

I like where this is going.

This is how we roll.

I like the term "car lathe".

Don't leave again, I need to stay on track.

great work on the rotisserie turning thing.
I love your parts dept. my shop is on a small 12 acre horse hobby farm and the buddy who owns its wife is not a fan of a large parts dept I get one stalls worth of parts collection so I have to scrap way to much good iron.
Id come down and try to help but my 3rd knee is not doing near as good as my first knee when they said it needed to be replaced (it got that way with a lot of help of the people at workers comp trying to help me)
keep up the good work and I hope you get done by Saturday.
My life is mostly Sundays now I only dream of Saturdays

Thanks for visiting. One stall for storage would be the pits. I feel very fortunate I can keep as much junk as I want. Interestingly, no one would steal my most valuable assets

 

[shortykorte]

An engineer? Engineers don't use fractions. Lol.
You will be turning a stud so lathe sounds right.
Now get back to work. We expect this done by next Saturday.


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[oldironfarmer]

Started on mounting brackets for the rotisserie. Not sure what to do so I looked at my engine stand and copied that. I happened to have some 1/2"x6" strip in the floor so I cut two 9-1/4" long pieces (most I could get out of the material). Proceeded to cut some slots for bolting to.

Cut two rings for keepers and cross drilled them. These are to keep the pivot pipes in place in their sleeves.

Plan is to drill the matching holes in the pivot pipe after assembly to get enough clearance.

I had already welded the sprocket on the drive pivot pipe and when I went to weld on the mounting plate I wished I had waited on the sprocket. At the time I was worried about getting the sprocket on square. So now it is not easy to get the mounting plate on square.

And after tacking it's not square. Two tacks, and one has to be removed to get the plate square. The only thing I could get in the small space was a hacksaw. Cut through the tack then spread it with a long cold chisel.

Leveled the pipe in the vise, then used a clamp to pull the plate into alignment and square with level to measure it, in two directions, before welding it again.

Starting to look like an engine stand!

Wasn't this going to be a rotisserie?

Next step is mounting an adjustable drive sprocket with a crank handle.

Thanks for looking in.

 

[oldironfarmer]

An engineer? Engineers don't use fractions. Lol.
You will be turning a stud so lathe sounds right.
Now get back to work. We expect this done by next Saturday.


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Not much of an engineer, huh?

 

[dlcwent]

Hehe... gone for a few days and now Andy is building a car lathe!

I like where this is going.

Good one Guster, I've never heard one called that before.

Not much of an engineer, huh?

Keep practicing, you'll get there someday.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Good one Guster, I've never heard one called that before.

Guster's comments had ideas spinning in my mind.

Keep practicing, you'll get there someday.

While I'm pretty persistent, after 41 years of being a Registered Professional Engineer I just gave up. No job and no prospects (ok I still have a couple of guys who would like to hire me) I had no incentive to keep doing continuing education requirements (which do not improve you as an engineer, just somebody's idea of punishment for practicing the trade, [trust me on this, the worst engineers can succeed in continuing education even though they are incompetent]) so my registration number has been officially retired. I'm a has been...

But I've got lots of Saturdays!!

 

[tym]

While I'm pretty persistent, after 41 years of being a Registered Professional Engineer I just gave up. No job and no prospects (ok I still have a couple of guys who would like to hire me) I had no incentive to keep doing continuing education requirements (which do not improve you as an engineer, just somebody's idea of punishment for practicing the trade, [trust me on this, the worst engineers can succeed in continuing education even though they are incompetent]) so my registration number has been officially retired. I'm a has been...[/B]

My dad used to urge me to get my PE license when I was in college. To avoid that, I went to grad school instead, where I don't think anyone really thought about getting PE licenses. I guess that makes me a has-never-been.

 

[don long]

Nice work on the rotisserie Andy.
I like the color. I have a lathe and a mill but haven't learned to use hem yet

 

[dreamingmuscle]

Me thinks you over thinking or over engineering the problem. Me like it.

 

[drivesitfar]

ANDY: i think you might be ENGINEERING a new TOOL. maybe get a patent going on your new CAR/TRUCK LATHE.

i kinda like the sound of it.

sorry to ask, but no BULL yet?

cheers and hope your Saturday is going as well as mine is. since i don't have a garage thread i post up some of my daily activities (exercise) on the GET HEALTHY thread in case you want to wander over there even though you are healthy.

cheers

 

[oldironfarmer]

My dad used to urge me to get my PE license when I was in college. To avoid that, I went to grad school instead, where I don't think anyone really thought about getting PE licenses. I guess that makes me a has-never-been.

In Oklahoma, you have to have five years experience before you can sit for the PE examination. My graduation was 46 years ago. I'm now feeling older. Not sure the license was of much value, except to impress the impressible.

Which reminds me of a little story A company wanted me to license in states they didn't have covered. That resulted in my having 14 licenses. Went to work for another company which shall remain unnamed. Bunch of stuffed shirts. Really. Guys had company seminar completion certificates framed on their walls. So I framed all 14 PE licenses and hung them on my wall. People would come in and keep glancing at the frames, then just lose their cool and stare, no diploma, just PE licenses. Impress the impressible I didn't stay there long. Nobody else had cattle.

Nice work on the rotisserie Andy.
I like the color. I have a lathe and a mill but haven't learned to use hem yet

Thank you, sir!

They aren't much different than a drill press. In fact, the mill makes a dandy drill press. Dan will tell you how easy a lathe is.

Me thinks you over thinking or over engineering the problem. Me like it.

Hope I'm not overthinking it. Definitely not over engineering, there have been no stress calculations, just a little evaluation of potential loads.

Glad you like it

ANDY: i think you might be ENGINEERING a new TOOL. maybe get a patent going on your new CAR/TRUCK LATHE.

No patents for me. They are only of value if you wish to try to make money by avoiding someone copying. I would rather someone copy if they like what I do.

i kinda like the sound of it.

It has a Gusty ring to it!

sorry to ask, but no BULL yet?

No bull. My sale barn proprietor (where we sell cattle) says he had a bull with foot rot who hid out for five months, then came in to eat when the weather got bad. Hmmm....

cheers and hope your Saturday is going as well as mine is. since i don't have a garage thread i post up some of my daily activities (exercise) on the GET HEALTHY thread in case you want to wander over there even though you are healthy.

cheers

But I take issue with your signature line. The purpose of an argument is to determine who is the most stubborn. An argument only starts because of closed minded stubbornness.

Thanks for the visits, everybody!

Got a question about body work. Here is the left front fender from my son's pickup (my show truck is the chassis for that truck). It was a fire truck, and it looks like they used a punch to make the holes to mount the siren. He wants me to fill in the holes.

I had thought to drill out the holes and put patch plates in, but now I'm thinking i should try to shrink the depressions out with a plastic hammer on the shot bag.

Comments? Other ideas?

 

[oldironfarmer]

Slow going today

Found a sprocket, axle, sleeve, and a sucker rod end to make a handle attachment for the axle.

Parted the square wrench flats off the sucker rod. It's from a 1" rod and is some tough material. Broke a carbide cutting tip parting it.

That means milling a groove and threading a keeper hole would not be easy. I ruined three end mills before I cut it with a 1-1/4" carbide cutter. I really wanted a 1" groove but decided 1-1/4' (my smallest insert cutter) would work.

Drilled it through and got 11 threads cut full depth before the 3/8"-16 TPI tap got hard enough to turn I was afraid I'd break it.

Turned the axle down to fit the sprocket.

Good fit and plenty of material to weld to.

Welded the handle socket on the other end. Interesting heat pattern.

Then I started turning out the sleeve to fit the axle. Internal corrosion, and it's tough. Lot's of scale. Had to use a tool steel boring bar because I didn't have a carbide boring bar with enough beef to cut 3-1/2" deep. Literally spent all afternoon boring out the sleeve, resharpened the tool bit about 300 times. But it's done. Pictures tomorrow.

Thanks for looking in.

 

[don long]

Nah
Both are bad ideas. Take your die grinder with a thin cutoff wheel.
Make 3 cuts on the high side of each hole. Place a dolly on the low side of the hole and Hit the high side with a flat hammer until the bump is flat then weld it up and grind it smooth. That's how I'd do it.

2014-08-26 14.48.19 by don long, on Flickr

 

[dchance]

Looks like you had a boring afternoon. I find what you are doing an interesting way to solve problems with what you have at hand.

well there is always next Saturday to do something exciting.

Dwight

 

[Guster]

Like how Don describes it. Might still have a little hole to deal with afterwards tho but at least it gets rid of the heavily stretched material at the edges of the hole. Looks like there is some surrounding low to deal with afterwards too.

Alternatively I'd use a body punch to cleanly punch a slightly larger hole and then patch that the way Robert does over on the MP&C thread in the fabrication section. Either way you have to planish the welds afterwards to counter any heats shrinkage in the middle of a body panel like that.

Did I mention I like where this thread is going. I mean really... just look at all that metalwork!

PS. Hehehe... Gusty eh?

 

[bj383ss]

Nah
Both are bad ideas. Take your die grinder with a thin cutoff wheel.
Make 3 cuts on the high side of each hole. Place a dolly on the low side of the hole and Hit the high side with a flat hammer until the bump is flat then weld it up and grind it smooth. That's how I'd do it.

2014-08-26 14.48.19 by don long, on Flickr

Don its hard to tell did you make the cuts all the way through the metal? So the way this works is the cut gives the metal a place to move to so it doesn't cause the dreaded "oil canning".

Bret

 

[Rex_A_Lott]

I was going to say you are going to have a hard time moving much metal with that plastic hammer, but I think Don has you on the right track. Looking forward to seeing the truck lathe actually turn the truck. Maybe by next Saturday.

 

[Farmall450]

That is an interesting heat pattern. Looks good Andy, I'm glad you've got the tooling for the magnitude of your projects.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Nah
Both are bad ideas. Take your die grinder with a thin cutoff wheel.
Make 3 cuts on the high side of each hole. Place a dolly on the low side of the hole and Hit the high side with a flat hammer until the bump is flat then weld it up and grind it smooth. That's how I'd do it.

2014-08-26 14.48.19 by don long, on Flickr

Why I asked! Thank you so much for your response. How you would do it means a lot!

Looks like you had a boring afternoon. I find what you are doing an interesting way to solve problems with what you have at hand.

well there is always next Saturday to do something exciting.

Dwight

While I delight in using what I have on hand, it often results in quite a bit of more work.

I'm getting excited to get the cab mounted on the rotisserie.

Like how Don describes it. Might still have a little hole to deal with afterwards tho but at least it gets rid of the heavily stretched material at the edges of the hole. Looks like there is some surrounding low to deal with afterwards too.

Alternatively I'd use a body punch to cleanly punch a slightly larger hole and then patch that the way Robert does over on the MP&C thread in the fabrication section. Either way you have to planish the welds afterwards to counter any heats shrinkage in the middle of a body panel like that.

Did I mention I like where this thread is going. I mean really... just look at all that metalwork!

PS. Hehehe... Gusty eh?

Thanks for your comments. Using a body punch would be like drilling out with a step drill, I think. I have read some of Robert's thread, but don't remember how he patches holes.

I like steel fabrication work.

Don its hard to tell did you make the cuts all the way through the metal? So the way this works is the cut gives the metal a place to move to so it doesn't cause the dreaded "oil canning".

Bret

That's the way I see it, basically making orange peel cuts so it will flatten without shrinking. This punched metal is deep enough I expect to have to cut a second time before the metal is flattened.

I was going to say you are going to have a hard time moving much metal with that plastic hammer, but I think Don has you on the right track. Looking forward to seeing the truck lathe actually turn the truck. Maybe by next Saturday.

Yup, I'm trying to learn. I'm really looking forward to seeing the truck turn too!

That is an interesting heat pattern. Looks good Andy, I'm glad you've got the tooling for the magnitude of your projects.

Interestingly, you get by with the tools you have. But I've been collecting tools for a long time.

Question: I'm thinking about drilling holes in the back panel of the cab to mount it fore and aft in the rotisserie. Thoughts?

 

[oldironfarmer]

Made some progress today!

Early last year I was at my ace welder friend's house and saw some tapered 3/8" bent steel strips. I asked about them and he said take 'em. He's smart enough to start with new steel when he makes something. I had decided to forge a 7/8" round down to 1-1/4" wide to make the crank handle when I saw some of those straps. A tapered handle looks nice and a lot less work than starting with round.

Milled the sides to fit the axle recess. That one inch milling cutter came with my mill in a box of tooling. I dulled the end of it trying to cut the slot yesterday. The sides are still good so I used it on the handle.

Since the bar is tapered the short piece of pipe helped hold it in the vise.

Used another one of the strips to make two radius arms for the small sprocket axle's sleeve.

I had some heavy wall tubing that a 3/4" rod will fit in loosely that I plan to use to the pivot so I needed to put 3/4" holes in each radius arm. I noticed the 3/4" bit I used was hand sharpened (it mainly cut with one flute) but it made good holes.

I clamped the nearest flat bar (the handle) to the sprockets to hold the small sprocket in alignment with the large one to weld the pivot tube to the upright (weld is just above the C-clamp).

Made a chain tensioner out of a piece of 1/2" pipe and a 5/8" bolt (good fit) with a short piece of the same pipe on a short bolt to let the adjuster swivel.

So here's the rotisserie drive mechanism (missing the chain).

The third hole in the handle, close to the axle, matches a hole in the radius arm to slip a bolt through to lock the handle in position. I think locking the rotisserie once per handle rotation will be enough, but if not I can put more stops on.

I think that completes the rotisserie. I painted the new pieces but didn't get pictures because everything was scattered all over. Should be ready to assemble it tomorrow.

Stay tuned! I'm ready to be done with this thing.

 

[1/2 Cup]

Andy, great progress..

Regards

 

[bolensboneyard]

I'm with Don and I would back up the weld with the copper paddle then pop the spots with a hammer while still hot backing them up of course.

 

[drivesitfar]

Andy: nice to see you are still cooking on the rotisserie!!

amazing work and i've told many members and friends those little old Columbian made Craftsman vises are great for a small investment and yours seems to be holding up the entire project you are welding together.

so a bull can survive injured for many many months out on the farm? I hope the big guy is healing and maybe even grabbed a gal for some company.

cheers and have another great SATURDAY!!

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy, great progress..

Regards

Thank you, Legendary 1/2 Cup!

I'm with Don and I would back up the weld with the copper paddle then pop the spots with a hammer while still hot backing them up of course.

I have never used copper backing and really need to start. Thanks for commenting!

Andy: nice to see you are still cooking on the rotisserie!!

amazing work and i've told many members and friends those little old Columbian made Craftsman vises are great for a small investment and yours seems to be holding up the entire project you are welding together.

so a bull can survive injured for many many months out on the farm? I hope the big guy is healing and maybe even grabbed a gal for some company.

cheers and have another great SATURDAY!!

Thanks for the kind comments! I use my two Craftsman vises all the time. Both were in my shop when it burned to the ground in 1989 and have had very little restoration. They are both on the steel tables they were on before the fire, but the table tops had to be straightened.

Before antibiotics not all people died of infection. The bull has survived! I was feeding this morning and thought I saw a blue ear tag (he was the only one with a blue ear tag) and sure enough, there he was

I went ahead and posted this picture because that's how I noticed him, not very obvious. Needless to say, I was elated. Had the vet come out to look. She indicated he may yet lose his foot. It is still very swollen (but better) and still leaking puss. While three legged cattle can do well, a bull with one hind leg cannot breed, and that is his only value. I managed to get him in secure handling pens and after a couple of days getting used to a new normal we'll crowd him and start him on an antibiotic regime. Good news is, although he has lost a lot of weight, he is eating well. I have him penned up with a young lady so he has some company. Keeping our fingers crossed.

It was a great Saturday.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Working with the bull took most of the morning. But I did get a little shop time in.

Put the casters on the rotisserie

Yes, I welded them on. For two reasons: primarily I was concerned I couldn't clock the bolts properly and would be subject to withering embarrassing criticism. Secondly, it is quicker to weld and I doubt I'll ever remove these casters. If I do, they will grind off pretty quickly.

Assembled the two rotisserie pieces. I don't pick colors well, according to my wife.

Color scheme was selected as follows:

Yellow: Structural base, non-adjustable.

Orange: Structural, adjustable.

Red: Adjustment components

Black: Movable parts.

Or, I kept running out of paint.

Here's a detail of the turning mechanism. It works pretty smoothly, but it is obvious to me that I need to add at least one more handle lock position.

Mounting the cab is next, then I'll learn whether having two independent ends will work.

Thanks for the visits!

 

[don long]

They look pretty clean all painted up. I like bright colors