Above 1200 Sq/FT Cleaning Up My Shop

[1/2 Cup]

Andy, the rotisserie looks fantastic and I love the colours..

Regards

 

[Ole Slewfoot]

Every one of those colors matches something in the background, sorta shop camo.
I think the little red wheels really set it off.

I'd be tempted to waste some time building an silly stop that latched into two of the lower teeth on the big gear, so as to be self energising in either direction.

It might potentially also serve a degree wheel function bending stuff depending how many teeth there are.

 

[Grumblebum]

Nothing wrong with those colors. I must take a pic of the one my dad made.

Tomorrow is Saturday for me for once

GB

 

[TwoBytes]

G'day Andy,

Just checking in mate.

I'm still slowly working my way through your thread from the start, I'm about halfway through, but geez it moves fast!

For every new page I read, I try to read one from where I'm up to in the middle, so I should be caught up in about 6 months!

Love the car lathe and glad your bull is OK

 

[Vieux]

It is great work Andy!

 

[drivesitfar]

Andy: great news that the BULL showed up and hope the Vet can get that bum leg back in shape soon cause I'd like to see you get a bunch of calves from him next spring.

I (we) never know if you are joking about stuff when you say you painted different parts different colors, but in any case i like all the bright colors on your TRUCK LATHE. I hope it works as good as you hope it will and maybe hang a safety ******** the truck from your hoist just in case until you know your new tool is working.

it's SATURDAY in our world isn't it and looks like the rain might let up here so i can pour some more cement today.

cheers and hope you enjoy your day as much as i will.

 

[jimreed2160]

Good work on the rotisserie, Andy. I am sure the EXACT SAME thing will show up in my next flier from Harbor Freight.

 

[bolensboneyard]

Looks good Andy. Did you make it to be universal fit or custom for the cab?

 

[oldironfarmer]

They look pretty clean all painted up. I like bright colors

Thanks Don! I like to paint tools I make so I don't throw them out by mistake when I'm cleaning up. I have a nasty habit of just tossing everything, you know. (it's the only way to keep a pristine shop...)

Andy, the rotisserie looks fantastic and I love the colours..

Regards

Thank you very much sir!!

Every one of those colors matches something in the background, sorta shop camo.
I think the little red wheels really set it off.

I'd be tempted to waste some time building an silly stop that latched into two of the lower teeth on the big gear, so as to be self energising in either direction.

It might potentially also serve a degree wheel function bending stuff depending how many teeth there are.

Shop camo, cool

At first I didn't like the tooth stop idea, but it's growing on me. Have to think about that. That could offer the most intermediate positions. 72 teeth.

Thanks for the comment!

Nothing wrong with those colors. I must take a pic of the one my dad made.

Tomorrow is Saturday for me for once

GB

Thanks for the visit! I would like to see your dad's.

G'day Andy,

Just checking in mate.

I'm still slowly working my way through your thread from the start, I'm about halfway through, but geez it moves fast!

For every new page I read, I try to read one from where I'm up to in the middle, so I should be caught up in about 6 months!

Love the car lathe and glad your bull is OK

Glad you're plugging away.

I hope it is not a total waste of time

Obviously I was elated over the bull. He is putting some weight on the bad leg.

It is great work Andy!

Many thanks!

Andy: great news that the BULL showed up and hope the Vet can get that bum leg back in shape soon cause I'd like to see you get a bunch of calves from him next spring.

I (we) never know if you are joking about stuff when you say you painted different parts different colors, but in any case i like all the bright colors on your TRUCK LATHE. I hope it works as good as you hope it will and maybe hang a safety ******** the truck from your hoist just in case until you know your new tool is working.

it's SATURDAY in our world isn't it and looks like the rain might let up here so i can pour some more cement today.

cheers and hope you enjoy your day as much as i will.

Well, gestation period being nine months, any cow he bred early summer would calve in the coming spring, and several are heavy. If perhaps he is now sterile, it will be about a year before I know it.

I guess I need to apologize if sometimes my intent is not clear...

I will attempt to not drop the Studebaker

We had five inches the other day, but there's no mud now. Hope you got to pour concrete!

Good work on the rotisserie, Andy. I am sure the EXACT SAME thing will show up in my next flier from Harbor Freight.

Hoo boy! If HF shows up with them I'll be pissed I didn't wait

Thanks for the kind comment!

Looks good Andy. Did you make it to be universal fit or custom for the cab?

Thanks you sir

Each end just has a rectangle with slots, like an engine stand. I think I can bolt just about anything except the caboose to it

Thanks for all the visits and comments, guys!!

 

[jimreed2160]

Well I am betting on the bull, Andy. Don't rename him Mr Hamburger just yet.

My sister was a horse person and one time had a horse that was full of pepper. He pawed the floor and chewed the tail boards in his stall. His favorite mischief was pulling the plug out of his automatic water bowl. That really made a mess. My dad was frustrated but knew that racehorses had goats back in the day to keep them calm so he went out and got the horse a goat. Evening one did not go well as the horse kicked the snot out of the goat and broke the goat's back leg. Ordinarily that would mean goat stew time but my dad, the vet, prided himself in fixing anything that had legs. He took the goat to his hospital and put some pins in the mangled leg. Once the pins were removed, Mr Hopalong was sent to my Grandaddy's farm to rehab with the gentle cows.

My short exposure to farmyard critters showed me that they are pretty hardy and can overcome much adversity. Once you get some antibiotics into Mr Bull, I'll bet he will be on the mend much quicker. If he is young he will probably avoid any residual effects except that he may have more respect for snakes. Good luck with his recovery.

 

[Terrick down Under]

Good to see you are not getting bored. Love reading about what you are up to.

 

[Farmall450]

The paint is practical.

Although, I kinda agree with the wife in that dark blue and yellow are an amazing combo (think NAPA).

 

[oldironfarmer]

Well I am betting on the bull, Andy. Don't rename him Mr Hamburger just yet.

My sister was a horse person and one time had a horse that was full of pepper. He pawed the floor and chewed the tail boards in his stall. His favorite mischief was pulling the plug out of his automatic water bowl. That really made a mess. My dad was frustrated but knew that racehorses had goats back in the day to keep them calm so he went out and got the horse a goat. Evening one did not go well as the horse kicked the snot out of the goat and broke the goat's back leg. Ordinarily that would mean goat stew time but my dad, the vet, prided himself in fixing anything that had legs. He took the goat to his hospital and put some pins in the mangled leg. Once the pins were removed, Mr Hopalong was sent to my Grandaddy's farm to rehab with the gentle cows.

My short exposure to farmyard critters showed me that they are pretty hardy and can overcome much adversity. Once you get some antibiotics into Mr Bull, I'll bet he will be on the mend much quicker. If he is young he will probably avoid any residual effects except that he may have more respect for snakes. Good luck with his recovery.

Interesting story. The bull is only about two years old, lots of time to heal and grow. He and the heifer are getting crowded behind a gate so he can get two shots every day. He is not liking it.

Sorry about the bad picture but I was pulling on the chain to hold the gate tight while my son in law gave the injections.

Good to see you are not getting bored. Love reading about what you are up to.

I'm up to 178 lbs, but thanks for asking!

The paint is practical.

Although, I kinda agree with the wife in that dark blue and yellow are an amazing combo (think NAPA).

Dark blue and yellow is one of my favorite combinations. And yellow and black are mighty fine too. But I didn't have any dark blue, and I wanted to use black on the sprockets because the chain collects greasy dirt anyway.

Thanks for the visits and comments. I had fun today.

 

[oldironfarmer]

My son, granddaughter, one grandson and his friend came Friday afternoon to work on the Studebaker, spend the night, and go to Oklahoma State Homecoming today. We had a good time in the shop, then board games until 11:00

We started disassembling the Dakota. Bed is ready to come off, and cab mounts are mostly out. I spent a little time fabricating brackets for the rotisserie to attach to the Studebaker cab. Today I finished mounting the cab and started test rolling it.

It moves surprisingly easily for just having greased pipe in pipe for bearings. Mount on front of cab is four 1/4" bolts in existing holes.

And on the back it's an angle iron under the back of the cab into the rear cab mounts. I elected to try this instead of drilling holes in the back of the cab.

Now the patch plate at the bottom of the driver's door post is readily accessible! Thanks, Dreamingmuscle, for the suggestion which sent me down this road!! And thanks to everyone else for encouraging me and offering suggestions!!

 

[oldironfarmer]

Then I couldn't help myself. This works so good! I just cranked it around and around

Upside down!

On it's side!

I can step through the windshield opening and work on the bottom of the dash standing up!

How did I ever get along without one? However, the single stop is not enough. The cab usually will stay put when you stop, but just a little force will roll it. I've decided to use the sprocket teeth as stops. Thanks, Ole Slewfoot! Plan is to use a pin between two teeth. I think it will be secure.

A really good day. Tomorrow I need to get the stop made, then it's no excuses to get back on sheet metal.

 

[drivesitfar]

Andy: your TRUCK LATHE looks like a HUGE SUCCESS. is that why the grand daughter and your son showed up after you told them you built it or did he need to help you with the bull? in any case it sounds like a GREAT DAY ON THE FARM.

just curious do you think that your bull was bit by a snake or could a TICK or something else have infected his foot? also since i never did see the blue tag on him when he was eating with all your cows i wonder if he slipped in for a few meals before you actually saw him.

no rain here today and i bet it didn't matter if it rained at your place cause sounds like it wouldn't have mattered.

CHEERS and hope your Sunday is as good as mine will be!!

 

[dreamingmuscle]

You're welcome Sir.

How did the crew like the rotisserie idea?

How does it roll on the floor without the bottoms being connected?

What has me baffled now is how did I miss the in ground piston lift in the 179 pages of delightful entertainment this thread has to offer?

Glen

 

[dchance]

Looks great, give you a chain and a sprocket and you can move the world.

They should have had a great day in Stillwater.

Dwight

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy: your TRUCK LATHE looks like a HUGE SUCCESS. is that why the grand daughter and your son showed up after you told them you built it or did he need to help you with the bull? in any case it sounds like a GREAT DAY ON THE FARM.

just curious do you think that your bull was bit by a snake or could a TICK or something else have infected his foot? also since i never did see the blue tag on him when he was eating with all your cows i wonder if he slipped in for a few meals before you actually saw him.

no rain here today and i bet it didn't matter if it rained at your place cause sounds like it wouldn't have mattered.

CHEERS and hope your Sunday is as good as mine will be!!

The family actually showed up to get a free room so they would be closer to Stillwater for Homecoming. And, to work a little. They really didn't know about the rotisserie.

I think the bull stepped on a piece of iron and got a deep puncture wound. Either that or he got it caught and broke it, but I'm still leaning toward a puncture. If the iron was still in it he will likely never heal.

I'm very sure he had not come up with the cows before. I check them each morning for limps, eye trouble, springing, etc. He would have been very obvious coming in. The morning I saw him was just as I was walking up to clear the lot so I could spread feed. I always shut the gate with an empty pen so I won't get trampled trying to lay out the feast. When I quickly swing the gate open they rush in all trying to be first to the bunk. It's great fun!

No rain here. I bought a 20 ft container to set at the barn for feed storage and it is to be delivered Tuesday. Hopefully we won't have too much rain tonight and tomorrow, it is in the forecast.

Thanks for stopping in and commenting!!

 

[oldironfarmer]

You're welcome Sir.

How did the crew like the rotisserie idea?

How does it roll on the floor without the bottoms being connected?

What has me baffled now is how did I miss the in ground piston lift in the 179 pages of delightful entertainment this thread has to offer?

Glen

They didn't get to see it operate, and they aren't impressed by much that grandpa does. He's just a crazy old engineer, you know.

The floor is rough from spalling when the shop burnt in 1989. (the great fire of '89) It rolls ok, however, just rock and roll after the wheels get aligned. It is not a high speed operation but does not really need to be. It would be easy with two people.

Well, I don't know. I may have had the lift hidden in the floor? The lift is why I'm on Garage Journal. I was searching for Rotary Lift stuff, thinking about a second lift when I happened on a search result to Thomas Payne's thread.

You could have seen the lift holding the yellow 72 Chevelle up in the air, and then again, you might not have.

The building burned down around the lift and it sat out in the weather for a year before I stuck a bar under it and determined it was still free. It could have come out for inspection but per my usual I just hooked it up and started using it. It will hold a car up for about a week, and some of the leakage is in the piping and valves.

Looks great, give you a chain and a sprocket and you can move the world.

They should have had a great day in Stillwater.

Dwight

Bigger chain, bigger world Got a buddy in Texas who wants a rotisserie now so I may be making another.

I'm sure they had a great day. Tremendous weather, nice parade, and somehow OSU won the game.

My sister and brother-in-law have season tickets. Several years ago we saw her in the crowd on the 10:00 news. Rather surreal.

Thanks for the visits!!

 

[don long]

Well Andy
I see all that math paid off again. My first thought was how did you know how long to make the rear mount so the truck could turn all the way around without hitting the roof. But then again thats what an engineer does every day

Great fun following along

don

 

[BUGTHUG]

You should temporary put a bucket seat and a 5 point harness in the Stud E Baker. Give some N A S A space rides round and round.
I seen a nice rotessier on CL, for $750.00. Its at a body shop. probably a good buy? Of course its cheaper to build one yourself if you have a lot of scrap metal rusting away.

 

[firebirdparts]

I like the chain spit turner. Got the fever to add that to my rotisserie. I would be a little worried about getting some lubrication on my project and how that might mess up the paint.

 

[bolensboneyard]

Great work Andy. Math is my weak point. I would have to use trial and error to know where to attach a whole car and make it spin so easily. No more full restorations on uni-body anyway but I see a coupe or pickup Model A in the future and a paved walkway to keep me out of the grass and the ticks!

 

[Rex_A_Lott]

Nice job on the truck lathe. I love it when a plan comes together.

 

[Farmall450]

Nice job on the truck lathe. I love it when a plan comes together.

Truck lathe, that's a new one.

Any chance the vet can take a look in the bull's hoof and see if some metal is in there?

 

[1/2 Cup]

Andy, wow the rotisserie has come together well

Right tools for the job..

 

[oldironfarmer]

Well Andy
I see all that math paid off again. My first thought was how did you know how long to make the rear mount so the truck could turn all the way around without hitting the roof. But then again thats what an engineer does every day

Great fun following along

don

I guess it might be an engineer thing, but this was pretty simple. After I guessed at where the center of gravity was, I measured to each corner to find the longest dimension. That distance had to clear the ground and the support floor arms. That dimension was less than 4 ft so I used 4 ft. Then I checked with a simple layout to make sure that a 6 ft diameter cab or chassis (3 ft radius) would clear the support arms with the pivots lowered to three ft off the ground. Did the same for 10 ft (5 ft radius). My grandson's 75 Ford seems to only be about 8 ft on the diagonal, so when I got in a bind with adjustment distance with the telescoping vertical pieces, I reduced them so the maximum height is only about 58" instead of 5 ft. Thanks for asking.

You should temporary put a bucket seat and a 5 point harness in the Stud E Baker. Give some N A S A space rides round and round.
I seen a nice rotessier on CL, for $750.00. Its at a body shop. probably a good buy? Of course its cheaper to build one yourself if you have a lot of scrap metal rusting away.

That's a real idea. Real what I'm not sure

OK, I didn't think to look on CL. I might have bit on one prebuilt.

I like the chain spit turner. Got the fever to add that to my rotisserie. I would be a little worried about getting some lubrication on my project and how that might mess up the paint.

Hadn't thought much about the oil getting on the car. I had been considering making a chain guard to keep the oil off me, however. That would help contain it, I suppose.

Great work Andy. Math is my weak point. I would have to use trial and error to know where to attach a whole car and make it spin so easily. No more full restorations on uni-body anyway but I see a coupe or pickup Model A in the future and a paved walkway to keep me out of the grass and the ticks!

No math in figuring out the center of gravity, just hang it from two different angles, the center of gravity is always under the chain.

Nice job on the truck lathe. I love it when a plan comes together.

Thank you I was worried there would be several redesign cycles before it actually worked. So far so good.

Truck lathe, that's a new one.

Any chance the vet can take a look in the bull's hoof and see if some metal is in there?

So is it car lathe or truck lathe? I get so confused.

I'm uncomfortable putting the bull in the chute. If he gets down we could be in trouble. Today our local Vo Ag teacher told me about a Vet in a nearby town who has a table he could look at the bull on. I may try to take him down there. Metal still in his hoof is my main fear for him not getting well.

Andy, wow the rotisserie has come together well

Right tools for the job..

Thank you, L1/2Cup! I'm thinking it is going to work well and I'm elated.

Thanks for the good comments, guys!!

 

[oldironfarmer]

A bit of progress today. Not much shop time, but I did get a sprocket tooth stop made.

Drilled a 3/4" pipe to 11/16", then turned a piece of sucker rod to a little smaller, then put a 0.490" nub on the end. The chain rollers on #50 chain are 1/2" in diameter, and the tooth valleys are right at 1/2" diameter. Then cut a slot and put a roll pin in the shaft to hold the pin in position. Drilled and tapped for a handle. I plan to put wood on the handle at some point, but a bolt works.

Found some 1/4" plate (actually I'm sure it is 5mm) shaped like a small triangle. Cut out a radius to match the upright and welded it to the pipe.

The sprocket is a few thousandths offcenter on it's pipe so I tacked the pipe on and test fit all around to make sure it would work in any position. Then welded best I could. When the cab comes off I'll finish welding it and paint to match.

Not a lot of extra room to fit the keeper in but everything clears.

The pin protrudes nicely.

Now we'll call it finished.

Doctor's appointment in Tulsa tomorrow, so there may not be much shop time.

Thanks for the visits, I defrosted the Coke machine and reloaded it so there's plenty of dimes on top, please help yourself!

 

[TwoBytes]

Glad you're plugging away.

I hope it is not a total waste of time

Definitely not a waste of time mate, this is one of my favourite threads here.

I vaguely remember you saying that you'd updated most, but not all, of the broken PhotoBucket links, so I'm expecting to start seeing some missing pics soon (I'm up to page 66 on my run from the start), but it's OK, I know where to find all the originals

 

[drivesitfar]

Andy: will the BULL let you check out his foot or is that asking for a kick to the HEAD?

more great fab work with the stop. i agree maybe a guard on the chain to keep you or a user from getting injured and keeping the grease/oil off your projects.

Your TRUCK LATHE is looking amazing and happy it worked out.

best of luck at the Dr. tomorrow.

cheers

 

[don long]

So the truck lathe is complete in short time . Whats next on your dance card??
More body work??

 

[bj383ss]

That is really cool Andy.

Bret

 

[GLTHFJ60]

Bad ***.

 

[BUGTHUG]

I was thinking on your rotisserie , that most of them have a adjustable support that connects the two ends together. But since the cab is short it probably wouldn't matter unless you plan on moving in onto a trailer or on something unleveled or rough terrain.
On Mr. Bull, it could be his hoof is cut on the bottom and its packed with nasty mud causing it to have infection up inside the hoof. ( I seen this on the Animal Planet Vet show)
Good luck on your own Vet visit.

 

[Terrick down Under]

I was wondering about the stop pin, I would have just put a bungie cord on the handle till it got to me.

 

[realvc]

What keeps the truck cab from flexing in the firewall or the back of the cab when you move it with out the rotisserie ends connected to each other? On a longer car body it seems there would be even more flexing.

If you decide to put a bucket seat in for a fun ride on the spinning rotisserie you could hook up one of your tractor PTOs to it for a real County Fair type ride.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Definitely not a waste of time mate, this is one of my favourite threads here.

I vaguely remember you saying that you'd updated most, but not all, of the broken PhotoBucket links, so I'm expecting to start seeing some missing pics soon (I'm up to page 66 on my run from the start), but it's OK, I know where to find all the originals

Thanks for the kind words!

I did get all the way through my thread updating with the system you provided. Thanks again!

Some pictures were referenced in comments by others, and since I can't edit their comments I can't bring back those pictures. But I think I got all the ones I posted.

And thank you again!!

We were among the first to beat Photobucket.

Andy: will the BULL let you check out his foot or is that asking for a kick to the HEAD?

more great fab work with the stop. i agree maybe a guard on the chain to keep you or a user from getting injured and keeping the grease/oil off your projects.

Your TRUCK LATHE is looking amazing and happy it worked out.

best of luck at the Dr. tomorrow.

cheers

The bull's foot can be checked but only after it is suitably secured. He can really kick with it. Son-in-law was standing 3-1/2" from a heavy steel gate when the bull kicked it 4" with that bad leg. SIL wound up with a big know on his cheek and two black eyes.

I've found a vet in Cushing who has a rotisserie squeeze chute. I'm taking him down there for inspection week from tomorrow.

Thanks for the kind words!

So the truck lathe is complete in short time . Whats next on your dance card??
More body work??

Yeah, the lathe was meant to shorten the time required to finish the body work. If today is any indication, it is going to be well worth the time spent to build it. So back to patch panels. My granddaughter would like to have the Studebaker to drive on her sixteenth birthday next April 4. Although that is not likely to happen, it sure won't if I don't stay on it.

That is really cool Andy.

Bret

Thank you sir!

Bad ***.

No, it's a lathe, not a donkey.

Thanks!

I was thinking on your rotisserie , that most of them have a adjustable support that connects the two ends together. But since the cab is short it probably wouldn't matter unless you plan on moving in onto a trailer or on something unleveled or rough terrain.
On Mr. Bull, it could be his hoof is cut on the bottom and its packed with nasty mud causing it to have infection up inside the hoof. ( I seen this on the Animal Planet Vet show)
Good luck on your own Vet visit.

I'm not much on rotisseries, so after looking at a few pictures I came up with this. It seems some of them have very flimsy connectors. I decided I probably didn't need that addition.

I was wondering about the stop pin, I would have just put a bungie cord on the handle till it got to me.

I wanted a spring to hold in position and the pin to hold it out while turning but I was too lazy to spend the extra time. I cut the L shaped slot on the mill, first the longitudinal cut, then sideways, rolled the pipe and finished it. Went pretty quickly. This stop is working.

What keeps the truck cab from flexing in the firewall or the back of the cab when you move it with out the rotisserie ends connected to each other? On a longer car body it seems there would be even more flexing.

If you decide to put a bucket seat in for a fun ride on the spinning rotisserie you could hook up one of your tractor PTOs to it for a real County Fair type ride.

Well, the cab is supported at both ends. The ends have a wide base and are fairly rigid. The pivots are large pipe and will not tilt under moderate loads so all the cab can do is just hang there. So the cab doesn't bend, but when I try to roll it, there is some flexing of the back support. However it does not seem to be bending anything and it actually rolls quite easily. After I roll it I adjust the ends until they seem to be free. Hope that answered your question.

It was very important to get the pivots lined up when making the supports. And that is hard to do, having a connecting structure would help that. You can envision how it would be if the pivots didn't line up and were either offset or at mismatched angles.

I blew US$35 for the eight casters, searched until I found them with locking swivels. So far I have had no need for locking casters. I got the drive end plate on nice and square but I guess I didn't check very good on the dumb end. The plate is not square so the back support wiggles around as the cab rolls. Hence I have not locked the casters. It is plenty stable for grinding and welding. When the Studebaker is done I'll have to adjust that back plate.

Thanks for all the comments guys.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Only had a bit of time today but it was productive.

With the little patch plate at the bottom of the door pillar now out in the open, I got it ground and finished welding it.

And with a little more roll of the cab, the bottom side of the floor pan was readily accessible to weld out the end of the seam (at the top)

Then ground the patch plate welds and sanded it relatively smooth.

I'm still putting too much weld on, that is sucking the seams in, and don't have good access to the back so this is going to get some body filler.

Then rolled the cab upside down to get to the rear door post bottom. Pretty well eat up.

It is so easy to roll the cab I just adjust it to make each operation the easiest. Sanding the patch plate I probably moved it up and down six times. I should have had it upside down to work on the floor plate. There is the weld right in front of me. It's going to take some time to get used to being able to manipulate the cab.

Here's the door post up close:

After I got it cleaned out I laid the two bought patch plates in place.

They are not exactly like the original but they will work. Getting the reinforcing channels extended to the running board will be a challenge. Not sure how to do that yet without taking the skin off the cab and I don't think that's in my schedule.

Here's where I left it for the night

My main concern when putting the running board in is to make the door fit. I think I need to have the door mounted before tacking the running board in place.

Thanks for all the visits and kind comments, guys!

 

[shortykorte]

Awesome job Andy.


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