Above 1200 Sq/FT Cleaning Up My Shop

[y'sguy]

Well, well, well, isn't that great. Just as I thought I was pretty well satisfied with the tools I own, now I have to find a tapered early model square. The one I've had all these years is a Stanley. It is not tapered. I am not worthy.


I am on the lookout, with newfound knowledge.

 

[BBChevro]

That vacuum blaster looks like a handy bit of gear.

Good to see Hershey "doing the dishes" too.

 

[oldironfarmer]

I love your thread, you have done an incredible amount of work in a short period of time Andy. I look forward to reading new posts here as there is always something to learn, thanks.

Eric

Boy I like to hear those words! but I fear my progress is waning and I can't seem to pick up the pace. Glad you find something to learn, even if it's how bad I am.

Just looked up the new Oklahoma tag design you was referring to. I just realized its a bird ive see a few around my area and just thought it was multi colored.

Yeah, it's pretty bad. It's supposed to be a scissortail flycatcher, the Oklahoma state bird.

Np, thanks for the detailed explanation. Hopefully all is well with the biopsy.

I hope the biopsy is doing ok. They took him away and I haven't seen him since.

Andy: i had no idea that sandblast pot was/is that expensive. WOW!!

looks like it does the job. if i had a big shop i'd probably buy a SkatBlast with a 5hp or 7.5hp compressor, but i think that ship has sailed unless we move out to the country.

good to see Hershey is still cleaning up after the cows and not getting stepped on.

great looking start to the other door and looking forward to more pictures and methods cause if I had a chance to buy an old truck before watching your thread i probably wouldn't have touched it with very many rusted out spots.

keep up the great work and as always STAY SAFE AND WARM!!

Well, it's not just a pot, it does have a vacuum system so you can blast indoors without gritting up the entire room.

Not too late to move to the country! But different folks like to live in different places. Each has it's advantages and disadvantages. I would prefer to live in town, but there are laws against people like me living amongst civilized society.

Hershey is such a good girl! She helps clean up. I had a contractor stop by my house today, he took off his muddy boots and left them on the porch. When I got to the door I opened it and Hershey was getting ready to clean the porch and haul off those old boots. He went back out and retrieved them.

I'm still trying to pick up the pace on the rust replacement. I want my second vehicle to have a little less rusted spots.

Safe and warm, good words to live by

I just have to tune in every day to see what lecture Professor Andy is giving. The lesson on framing squares was eye opening. My first exposure to framing squares was when I found my dad's abandoned in weeds beside the barn and used it for a boomerang. He was happy to have it back but not pleased about my new found use for it. Luckily I was small and could not throw it very far.

But I was intrigued and had to go look at my vintage square. It is an old Sargent that I picked up somewhere. And the arms are tapered so much that you can see it just by looking. Measurement at the corner is 5/32" and measurement at the end of the wing is 5/64". Wow! I did not expect the thickness to taper by 50%!

Thanks, Andy. And BTW, my guess is that they used a big wheel to grind the taper. That is what Disston did with their saws. The good handsaws are thick where the teeth are and thinner up top. The taper keeps the saw from binding in the kerf.

Mine are both tapered by about half. Interesting you can have something like that and not notice. Looks like yours may be hand stamped. On mine some of the numbers are crooked so I'm pretty sure it's hand stamped.

The history of Eagle Square Company indicated they tapered with trip hammers and then invented their eccentric rolls to taper with. I wouldn't be surprised if some companies ground the taper, especially after steel got cheaper.

Hand saws are a whole 'nother subject on craftsmanship, aren't they? I have some old ones but not any really good ones. My dad always bought good saws but didn't take particularly good care of them. A well tuned saw is a joy to use. I remember my grandfather using hand tools, but in 1963 we lived in Wickford, RI. My dad and I built a pram for me to row in Narragansett Bay. We went to a boat builder to buy one more board. The guy got a long board out and picked up a hand saw to cut it off. I'm thinking why doesn't he get a Skil saw? He had the board cut before I could have got the extension cord plugged in, and it was straight and square. Made a big impression on a smart aleck kid.

Well, well, well, isn't that great. Just as I thought I was pretty well satisfied with the tools I own, now I have to find a tapered early model square. The one I've had all these years is a Stanley. It is not tapered. I am not worthy.


I am on the lookout, with newfound knowledge.

I may have to put that memorable quote on my signature line:

"I thought I was pretty well satisfied with the tools I own"

That's hilarious!! Satisfied with the tools you own?



Where were we?

Oh yeah, thought you were going to come out to visit. If you do I'll let you look a one of mine, and for a small fee you can touch it. A real vintage tapered square.

Hmm, what does y'sguy mean?

That vacuum blaster looks like a handy bit of gear.

Good to see Hershey "doing the dishes" too.

So far I'm loving it. Very much.

Hershey is such a loving girl. While I'm taking the net wrap off a bale she will come sit on my feet, lean against my legs, and stare up at me. She can do no wrong. Our yard is filled with her play pretties: sticks, bits of chewed plastic, an old door mat, and on and on and on. She even brings cow patties from the pasture. I walked across a big one and thought I had a cow out but it was loose on the ground, just another play pretty. I'll clean up next year when she is older.

 

[jbmatth]

Andy,
Don't feel bad about the slow progress you think you are making on the truck, precise work takes time, and a hack with a welder gets to redo it enough to take just as long. I'll let you decide which category you feel like fits you best. All joking aside you are doing great work and are attempting something many would never even consider, well done.

Also thanks for the interesting reading on tapered squares, I have three I'll have to have a look at now.

JB

 

[oldironfarmer]

Thanks for the kind words, JB.

I'm just in awe at your progress. You're really getting it on your frame T/A.

Unfortunately I'm mired down in tax preparation paperwork. It takes me a lot of time just to get it ready for the accountant. Thought things would get easier when I retired but I move slower and everything takes longer.

 

[45 HARLEY]

Andy
I have been lurking here on GJ for several years.
I have been following your thread since the beginning and have found it very interesting as it hits closest to home as far as my interests as I am an old tractor guy from about time I could walk, about 60 years ago.
I grew up on the platform of Rumely Oilpulls and John Deeres and have a whole yard full of old junk, I mean collectables.
I grew up in a subdivision in what used to be a small farming town 20 minutes from the Pearson airport in Toronto, but live 4 hours north of there out of the rat race in the bush.
I am a Fluid Power Technologist (Hydraulics & Pneumatics) and was prompted to comment when you brought up Boolean Algebra.
I remember that stuff from college 40 years ago.
It's been so damned cold I haven't had much drive either, so I would blame your lack of drive on winter.
Pawnee has been on my bucket list for some time, so we may meet some day.
Thanks for the memories and for all the stuff you have posted as it has been very informative and entertaining.
Keep well
Ross Clarke

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy
I have been lurking here on GJ for several years.
I have been following your thread since the beginning and have found it very interesting as it hits closest to home as far as my interests as I am an old tractor guy from about time I could walk, about 60 years ago.
I grew up on the platform of Rumely Oilpulls and John Deeres and have a whole yard full of old junk, I mean collectables.
I grew up in a subdivision in what used to be a small farming town 20 minutes from the Pearson airport in Toronto, but live 4 hours north of there out of the rat race in the bush.
I am a Fluid Power Technologist (Hydraulics & Pneumatics) and was prompted to comment when you brought up Boolean Algebra.
I remember that stuff from college 40 years ago.
It's been so damned cold I haven't had much drive either, so I would blame your lack of drive on winter.
Pawnee has been on my bucket list for some time, so we may meet some day.
Thanks for the memories and for all the stuff you have posted as it has been very informative and entertaining.
Keep well
Ross Clarke

Thanks for commenting, Ross!

WOW! Is this your first post? I'm honored.

It's good to know I'm not alone.

If you can ever make it to the Pawnee Steam Tractor Show, please let me know. I live about 28 miles from there and I buy my feed in Pawnee.

Wait, entertaining? Are you laughing at me?

 

[Guster]

"I thought I was pretty well satisfied with the tools I own"

That sums up the ol'GarageJournal purpose perfectly!

List of motivations that Garage Journal provide for new tools:
1. It is a well made classic
2. To start a collection of antiques
3. Flashy new thing
4. Better way of doing it using the right tool
5. Just never knew about it
6. Brand fanatic
7. Needs to be polished
8. Inherited it but never knew what it was used for
9. Found it in a barn will all this other cool stuff
10. More than one is better
11. No real reason other than it is cool
12. Peer pressure
13. They come in different colours
14. Outgrew the old ones after learning more about them
15. More power!
16. Was only $1 at the garage sale - what is it?
17. Andy has one

Sure there is another half dozen or more

 

[oldironfarmer]

Number 10 is my downfall. I disagree with 17. There are very few tools I have only one of

18. I'm starting a new hobby
19. I want to do what I've been hiring done
20. I want to do it for my friends
21. It will pay for itself doing side jobs
22. I'm expanding my hobby
23. I need it to build something really cool
24. I might need it later
25. I have one but I can't find it

 

[dlcwent]

That sums up the ol'GarageJournal purpose perfectly!

List of motivations that Garage Journal provide for new tools:
1. It is a well made classic
2. To start a collection of antiques
3. Flashy new thing
4. Better way of doing it using the right tool
5. Just never knew about it
6. Brand fanatic
7. Needs to be polished
8. Inherited it but never knew what it was used for
9. Found it in a barn will all this other cool stuff
10. More than one is better
11. No real reason other than it is cool
12. Peer pressure
13. They come in different colours
14. Outgrew the old ones after learning more about them
15. More power!
16. Was only $1 at the garage sale - what is it?
17. Andy has one

Sure there is another half dozen or more

 

[BBChevro]

I sometimes have a 25 moment, which often leads to a 10 situation.

 

[Finallygotit]

26. I didn't know that was a thing.

(When I mentioned to someone in another thread about refrigeration fin combs)

 

[drivesitfar]

Andy: yep 25 is maybe the reason i'm GETTING ORGANIZED cause nobody likes going to the store in the middle of a project, but more so if you know you have the part or tool and JUST CAN'T FIND IT.

have you started a fire in the new stove yet or did i miss or not remember that post?

Guster: thanks for the list and my favorite reason I tell my bride when she asks me why i am buying it or what i need it for and my answer could be as simple as JUST BECAUSE.

 

[45 HARLEY]

Thanks for commenting, Ross!

Wait, entertaining? Are you laughing at me?

Nope, laughing with you.

I was thinking of you when I saw this last spring in a friend's barn.
This guy had LOTS of stuff and a wonderful barn with all kinds of potential.

You spiked my interest with the talk of squares.
I have 3, 1 via rule 25 above.
I think one is tapered.
I need to clean it up and see what markings are on it.

 

[Model A Fan]

Nope, laughing with you.

I was thinking of you when I saw this last spring in a friend's barn.
This guy had LOTS of stuff and a wonderful barn with all kinds of potential.

You spiked my interest with the talk of squares.
I have 3, 1 via rule 25 above.
I think one is tapered.
I need to clean it up and see what markings are on it.

Check out the sock knitting machine sale prices!

http://www.ebay.com/cln/2011kabrilew/wwi-sock-knitting-machine/99964393010

Here's a little history on them...

https://joybileefarm.com/lest-we-fo...-cranky-old-sock-knitting-machine-to-freedom/

How about an updated pic?

 

[Guster]

26. I didn't know that was a thing.

(When I mentioned to someone in another thread about refrigeration fin combs)

Pretty much the same as #5:
5. Just never knew about it

But you got me!

Looking up refrigeration fin combs. Luckily just out of sheer curiosity.

There is a whole world of other tools out there: luthier tools, leatherwork, horse tack and animal harness tools, bone and stone carving, general glasswork, lab glass and glass instrument making, clock and watch making, print making, lithography and screen printing, gaslights, electric gas tube lights, electronic vacuum tube making and that is just to list a few of my current idle distractions. Then you should see all the stuff in the medical industry.

I think it is thanks to Bob that I bought a set of dental picks.

 

[bolensboneyard]

Andy I did check the square that was my dad's and it is tapered with all the extra information numbers. It is a Stanley. I been meaning to sand blast it for a long time and today I did; painted with bright aluminum exhaust paint. Looks great and I can read it.

 

[realvc]

I really enjoy using the tools that I've accumilated over the years. Nothing like you have Andy but for me it is a collection of useful tools.

The things I end up buying more than one of is an LP album or 45 record, cassette, 8 track or reel to reel tape. When I find one that I like and can't remember for sure if I have it or not I'll spring for it depending on condition and price.

If I do have a copy I'll decide which one is the best one and pass the culled one on to some one else. I try to get people interested in spinning vinyl or any of the old school media. Vinyl is making a come back these days which is fine by me.

I'm still fighting the crud. When I think I'm getting over it here it comes again. Sore throat, coughing and all the fun stuff of a cold.

Still enjoying following your adventures in and around the shop.

Take care
Vince

 

[TwoBytes]

Since you could have asked, if you didn't know the AND Boolean operator and the OR operator are the same. There are two inputs, for AND, if both input A and input B are on, then the output is on. If either turn off, then the output turns off. To make an OR, you reverse what you call on and off, for an OR, if either input A or B are on, then the output is on. Only when A and B are off is the output off. Mechanically this is easily accomplished by two rods in parallel pushing against a plate which is attached to the output rod. If either rod is pushed then the output gets pushed. Only when both rods are retracted can the output retract. Unfortunately this take a spring to retract the output. All computer language is just a series of Boolean operators, NOT, AND, OR, AND NOT. So you can replicate computer logic mechanically but having springs in the system soon overloads the levers and mechanical assistance is required, further complicating the system and requiring power input. Since Boolean operators were defined in the mid-nineteenth century apparently no one had come up with an AND or OR gate which did not need springs to return the output. It drove me crazy until I figured it out.

Thanks for asking!

So what's the answer?!?!

How do you build a mechanical AND or OR gate without springs?

Is that the machine that your professor stole and took credit for?

The new tags are only for the advertising "tag line" they added. They could have kept the same design. I'm assuming a state employee's child designed the new tag. I hope they didn't pay for it. I would like to have been in the meeting where everyone was raving about the new design.

Is this the plate design you're talking about?
http://www.koco.com/article/officials-unveil-new-oklahoma-license-plate-design/4311190

The thing that surprised me was that cost for registration renewal is only $21!

I know that your dollars are worth more than ours, but still, our registration is 10x that (50x if you include the compulsory third party insurance, not to mention all the other fees and levies)...
https://www.accesscanberra.act.gov....otor-vehicle-registration-and-renewal#!tabs-9

2 cars, 2 motorbikes and 2 trailers was costing me $7,000+ per year in rego and insurance. Which (along with lack of space) is the reason I don't have lots more.

 

[jbmatth]

TwoBytes, hopefully Andy doesn't mind me answering the plate questions for you. That is the plate he is referring to, I don't know why they went to this style but there are many things I don't know.

Speaking of renewal fees they have recently gone up it looks like, it can be as low as $26 for a year for vehicles 17 years old or more and $96 a year for almost new vehicles. We also don't have to pay for any type of inspection or emissions checks here in Oklahoma.
1st through 4th year: $96.
5th through 8th year: $86.
9th through 12th year: $66.
13th through 16th year: $46.
17th year and over: $26.

For my 5 vehicles I spend about $2,600 a year for registration and insurance. Not too bad all in all, but obviously still more than I would like to pay.
JB

 

[86turbodsl]

TwoBytes, hopefully Andy doesn't mind me answering the plate questions for you. That is the plate he is referring to, I don't know why they went to this style but there are many things I don't know.

Speaking of renewal fees they have recently gone up it looks like, it can be as low as $26 for a year for vehicles 17 years old or more and $96 a year for almost new vehicles. We also don't have to pay for any type of inspection or emissions checks here in Oklahoma.
1st through 4th year: $96.
5th through 8th year: $86.
9th through 12th year: $66.
13th through 16th year: $46.
17th year and over: $26.

For my 5 vehicles I spend about $2,600 a year for registration and insurance. Not too bad all in all, but obviously still more than I would like to pay.
JB

It could be worse - Here in Michigan, i pay something like $225 / vehicle for registration and my insurance is over $2500 / year for 3 drivers on 3 OLDER vehicles. One 5 years old, one 13 years old, one 20 years old.

AND our roads ****. Count your blessings.

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[drivesitfar]

Andy: not sure how we got on the subject of taxing, but you'd need to start a Fund Andy's toy's funds if you wanted to license all your herd of vehicles up here. we voted in a $30 straight tax for licensing maybe 20 years ago cause a new RV was about $2,000 per year just to license and my new honda's were about $400-500 per year. now they've figured out a way to add to the $30 (maybe the next year cause it didn't take them long) and now i pay about $120 per year to drive my 2003 Honda Pilot. i won't mention the cost of insurance cause or housing cause it's probably still more expensive in California (not by much though i'm betting).

hope you enjoy your Saturday and has the bull even smiled at you letting you know he thanks you for not turning him into HAMBURGER?

cheers

 

[Fr8dog61]

Hi Andy, I just got caught up only took 2 weeks! My name is Joe and I have thoroughly enjoyed your thread! A fine collection of folks you have posting here. I love the shop work, the cattle (I'm a frustrated farmer) and all the other activities here. I have passed through your area a few times and must say you live in a beautiful part of the world. Thank you for taking the time to document all your activities, I look forward to more!

Joe

 

[drivesitfar]

Andy: I look forward to your evening posts almost as much as eating dinner and hope you were just busy and something didn't happen to you.

IT'S SATURDAY so let's have some fun and hoping you are ok.

cheers

 

[oldironfarmer]

Glad to have you visit, Dan

I sometimes have a 25 moment, which often leads to a 10 situation.

As my dad aged he gave up trying to look for tools and just bought new when he wanted something. i hope I never get that bad...

26. I didn't know that was a thing.

(When I mentioned to someone in another thread about refrigeration fin combs)

I have resisted buying a fin comb. I use a coarse plastic comb with the ends cut off. Works ok.

Andy: yep 25 is maybe the reason i'm GETTING ORGANIZED cause nobody likes going to the store in the middle of a project, but more so if you know you have the part or tool and JUST CAN'T FIND IT.

have you started a fire in the new stove yet or did i miss or not remember that post?

Guster: thanks for the list and my favorite reason I tell my bride when she asks me why i am buying it or what i need it for and my answer could be as simple as JUST BECAUSE.

What do you mean nobody likes going to the store in the middle of a project? To buy tools?

I've had several fires in the new stove. I think my chimney has too much draft and it pulls the damper closed so I leave the ash door cracked. It will put out 120F air pretty easily but only runs about 3 hours before it needs to be recharged.

Nope, laughing with you.

I was thinking of you when I saw this last spring in a friend's barn.
This guy had LOTS of stuff and a wonderful barn with all kinds of potential.

You spiked my interest with the talk of squares.
I have 3, 1 via rule 25 above.
I think one is tapered.
I need to clean it up and see what markings are on it.

Hmmm, I didn't remember laughing...

Did he just have the crate or does he have an Autoknitter? I have one of those, but it's loaned out. The Autoknitter was an all aluminum machine and the castings were prone to swelling and cracking with age so there are lots which don't actually work.

Check out the sock knitting machine sale prices!

http://www.ebay.com/cln/2011kabrilew/wwi-sock-knitting-machine/99964393010

Here's a little history on them...

https://joybileefarm.com/lest-we-fo...-cranky-old-sock-knitting-machine-to-freedom/

How about an updated pic?

Thanks for the links! The history seems to have been written around the Autoknitter. LeGare (like my primary knitter) is all steel and pot metal. I winced when it said owners were asked to turn in their sock machines to be melted down. Probably only the aluminum ones.

Updated picture of?

Pretty much the same as #5:
5. Just never knew about it

But you got me!

Looking up refrigeration fin combs. Luckily just out of sheer curiosity.

There is a whole world of other tools out there: luthier tools, leatherwork, horse tack and animal harness tools, bone and stone carving, general glasswork, lab glass and glass instrument making, clock and watch making, print making, lithography and screen printing, gaslights, electric gas tube lights, electronic vacuum tube making and that is just to list a few of my current idle distractions. Then you should see all the stuff in the medical industry.

I think it is thanks to Bob that I bought a set of dental picks.

You really need tools from all crafts: it's amazing how often a tool from another craft fills the bill.

Andy I did check the square that was my dad's and it is tapered with all the extra information numbers. It is a Stanley. I been meaning to sand blast it for a long time and today I did; painted with bright aluminum exhaust paint. Looks great and I can read it.

I guess that's why it looks aluminum on the pictures.

They are a dandy to use, aren't they.

I really enjoy using the tools that I've accumilated over the years. Nothing like you have Andy but for me it is a collection of useful tools.

The things I end up buying more than one of is an LP album or 45 record, cassette, 8 track or reel to reel tape. When I find one that I like and can't remember for sure if I have it or not I'll spring for it depending on condition and price.

If I do have a copy I'll decide which one is the best one and pass the culled one on to some one else. I try to get people interested in spinning vinyl or any of the old school media. Vinyl is making a come back these days which is fine by me.

I'm still fighting the crud. When I think I'm getting over it here it comes again. Sore throat, coughing and all the fun stuff of a cold.

Still enjoying following your adventures in and around the shop.

Take care
Vince

I'm not much of an audiophile so I don't have much of an audio file.

My problem when I get a duplicate, I use the worse copy and save the better copy for later...

Take care of your cold. I've been diagnosed with influenza so I'm staying down for several days.

So what's the answer?!?!

How do you build a mechanical AND or OR gate without springs?

Is that the machine that your professor stole and took credit for?

Is this the plate design you're talking about?
http://www.koco.com/article/officials-unveil-new-oklahoma-license-plate-design/4311190

The thing that surprised me was that cost for registration renewal is only $21!

I know that your dollars are worth more than ours, but still, our registration is 10x that (50x if you include the compulsory third party insurance, not to mention all the other fees and levies)...
https://www.accesscanberra.act.gov....otor-vehicle-registration-and-renewal#!tabs-9

2 cars, 2 motorbikes and 2 trailers was costing me $7,000+ per year in rego and insurance. Which (along with lack of space) is the reason I don't have lots more.

Yes, a mechanical and/or gate without springs is what I made and he kept. I really need to make another but I need to dedicate some time to it. It's not obvious and I can't seem to draw it again. Remember this was in 1971. It's basically a dead center device, either input moves the pivots off dead center but you don't get output motion until both are moved.

That's the tag.

Newer cars here cost several hundred dollars, most of mine in the $50 to $100 range. Antiques are the minimum. All my trucks are Farm Truck tags which are $49 I think. Great for new trucks but even my old ones get farm tags. With a farm tag in Oklahoma you are entitled drag anything down the public roads you have enough moxie to try. Like a 14' wide implement with no wide load permit. So I don't have to worry about length and width of loads.

I have a little difficulty understanding why taxation is used to stifle the economy in lots of places.

TwoBytes, hopefully Andy doesn't mind me answering the plate questions for you. That is the plate he is referring to, I don't know why they went to this style but there are many things I don't know.

Speaking of renewal fees they have recently gone up it looks like, it can be as low as $26 for a year for vehicles 17 years old or more and $96 a year for almost new vehicles. We also don't have to pay for any type of inspection or emissions checks here in Oklahoma.
1st through 4th year: $96.
5th through 8th year: $86.
9th through 12th year: $66.
13th through 16th year: $46.
17th year and over: $26.

For my 5 vehicles I spend about $2,600 a year for registration and insurance. Not too bad all in all, but obviously still more than I would like to pay.
JB

Please don't make me add up the taxes I pay for vehicles.

 

[oldironfarmer]

It could be worse - Here in Michigan, i pay something like $225 / vehicle for registration and my insurance is over $2500 / year for 3 drivers on 3 OLDER vehicles. One 5 years old, one 13 years old, one 20 years old.

AND our roads ****. Count your blessings.

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I know taxes are cheaper in Oklahoma. It's one of the reasons I live here. I had a choice. Lot's of people really don't have a choice, they've got to live where the work is. So if you don't count antique vehicles I have a 15 F350, 12 CRV, 06 FJ, 94 Dodge Cummins, and 48 Chevy 3/4 ton for one driver.

The antiques are the bargain. Mine are with Hagerty, and average $150 per year. I think I've got 5 insured 72 Chevelle, 52 Willys, 37 Chevy, 35 Chevy, and 31 Model A (thanks Bobby!).

Andy: not sure how we got on the subject of taxing, but you'd need to start a Fund Andy's toy's funds if you wanted to license all your herd of vehicles up here. we voted in a $30 straight tax for licensing maybe 20 years ago cause a new RV was about $2,000 per year just to license and my new honda's were about $400-500 per year. now they've figured out a way to add to the $30 (maybe the next year cause it didn't take them long) and now i pay about $120 per year to drive my 2003 Honda Pilot. i won't mention the cost of insurance cause or housing cause it's probably still more expensive in California (not by much though i'm betting).

hope you enjoy your Saturday and has the bull even smiled at you letting you know he thanks you for not turning him into HAMBURGER?

cheers

I'm sure you would find almost everything much cheaper in Oklahoma, although our gasoline is up over $2.00 per gallon again. But I don't drive that much any more.

I'd be tickled to sell you some good land on a state highway for $3,500 per acre.

The bull seems to be doing OK, but I didn't see him today. I've got the flu and am staying in. Don't want to push it, I'm not a kid like 1/2, you know.

Hi Andy, I just got caught up only took 2 weeks! My name is Joe and I have thoroughly enjoyed your thread! A fine collection of folks you have posting here. I love the shop work, the cattle (I'm a frustrated farmer) and all the other activities here. I have passed through your area a few times and must say you live in a beautiful part of the world. Thank you for taking the time to document all your activities, I look forward to more!

Joe

I guess by your handle you're a trucker? Thanks for taking the time to slog through. We do get a very fine collection if visitors here. They really keep me on my feet.

Hope to see you back again.

Andy: I look forward to your evening posts almost as much as eating dinner and hope you were just busy and something didn't happen to you.

IT'S SATURDAY so let's have some fun and hoping you are ok.

cheers

Well something did happen. Wednesday I worked outside in a 40F wind, not too cold, but came down with the sniffles. Skipped Thursday Zumba and had a miserable night Thursday night (including passing out Friday morning) so I went to the doctor and was diagnosed with the flu. They sent me over to the hospital for an EKG and chest x-rays then the hospital wanted to transport me to Tulsa by ambulance. I had to check myself out or they would have never gotten around to giving me flu medication. I'm fine but every muscle except my tongue hurts right now.

Yes I had a flu shot

I appreciate ya'll keeping the thread moving while I was out.

I slept 14 hours last night.

 

[1/2 Cup]

Andy, take care.

14 hours sleep that's awesome, clearly you needed it...

Regards

 

[dchance]

Andy Do take care especially with the cold weather that you are having.

Dwight

 

[Ole Slewfoot]

Thanks for the links! The history seems to have been written around the Autoknitter. LeGare (like my primary knitter) is all steel and pot metal. I winced when it said owners were asked to turn in their sock machines to be melted down. Probably only the aluminum ones.

In August 1942, the war production board estimated the US was 11,000,000 tons shy of the scrap steel need to finish out that year...yes they wanted your old steel machine. No wonder pre war stuff is harder to find.

First source by google books
https://books.google.com/books?id=8...itary "scrap steel" shortage railroad&f=false

 

[jimreed2160]

Sorry to hear about your flu, Andy. Drink plenty of fluids. The kitties say you should just nap it out.

 

[Fr8dog61]

I guess by your handle you're a trucker? Thanks for taking the time to slog through. We do get a very fine collection if visitors here. They really keep me on my feet.

Hope to see you back again.

Actually I am a pilot, I work for a cargo airline. The term "Freight Dog" was coined back when flying freight was considered a notch or 2 down on the ladder. You fly all night and try to sleep during the day. Pay then wasn't as good as the "head haulers" either. A dogs life (sorry Hershey).

I'm sorry you have the flu. That's nothing to mess with. You seem like yhe type who is always helping folks out I hope you have someone close by that can help you out. Drink plenty of liquids and rest. Can Son In Law feed for you?

Thanks for the welcome, I am happy to be here!

Joe

 

[drivesitfar]

Andy: best of luck getting rid of your FLU BUG. maybe you need to melt some aluminum to get warm and smiling again?

I take Zinc when i'm starting to come down with something and my bride usually makes some good soup. also a lot of hot tea.

I haven't ever had a FLU SHOT that i know of and i'm sure my bride hasn't, but i know some of you guys especially the ones that were in the military religiously get them.

what's funny is the news people up here say there is a flu bug out there caused by the most recent flu shot and they tell EVERYBODY TO GO GET A SHOT. GO FIGURE

i'd love to be your neighbor cause I tend to find all the little stuff you need to finish these big projects and I love big old steel stuff and i still am amazed you have a CABOOSE ON YOUR PROPERTY.

I know HERSHEY is able to haul a few things around so maybe she'll drag out a bag or two of feed and feed the cows for you today?

cheers and get well soon!!

 

[Vieux]

Your taxes on the car are not dependent on engine power?
We have a tax depends on engine power. For your car with a capacity of 169 horsepower (126 kW) I pay in a year about $ 300.

 

[GLTHFJ60]

Your taxes on the car are not dependent on engine power?
We have a tax depends on engine power. For your car with a capacity of 169 horsepower (126 kW) I pay in a year about $ 300.

No state to my knowledge taxes based on engine horsepower. Some states have an annual property tax on vehicles based on assessed value of the vehicle, but not all.

 

[shortykorte]

Get well soon Andy. 1/2 is on his way.


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[Guster]

Time for a good chicken broth and a lie in. Hope you get better soon. Take it easy for a while too. Some of these bugs can linger and trip you up again while you are down.

All the best!

 

[tym]

Andy: best of luck getting rid of your FLU BUG. maybe you need to melt some aluminum to get warm and smiling again.

I'm pretty sure I saw a "do not take internally" label on Andy's aluminum muffin mold.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy, take care.

14 hours sleep that's awesome, clearly you needed it...

Regards

Another 14 hours in the last 24 hours, I'm doing good. And people are bringing food by like I just died. That's working well.

Andy Do take care especially with the cold weather that you are having.

Dwight

Thanks! My woodcutter is feeding the cows, Hershey, and the birds. I think I'm officially unnecessary and right now I don't care.

In August 1942, the war production board estimated the US was 11,000,000 tons shy of the scrap steel need to finish out that year...yes they wanted your old steel machine. No wonder pre war stuff is harder to find.

First source by google books
https://books.google.com/books?id=8...itary "scrap steel" shortage railroad&f=false

Amazing! Lots of good stuff went to the war effort. We can't complain, without the full effort there may have been a different outcome...

Sorry to hear about your flu, Andy. Drink plenty of fluids. The kitties say you should just nap it out.

Thanks! I'm definitely taking the kitty cat's advice.

Actually I am a pilot, I work for a cargo airline. The term "Freight Dog" was coined back when flying freight was considered a notch or 2 down on the ladder. You fly all night and try to sleep during the day. Pay then wasn't as good as the "head haulers" either. A dogs life (sorry Hershey).

I'm sorry you have the flu. That's nothing to mess with. You seem like yhe type who is always helping folks out I hope you have someone close by that can help you out. Drink plenty of liquids and rest. Can Son In Law feed for you?

Thanks for the welcome, I am happy to be here!

Joe

When you said it I remembered the Freight Dogs. Not sure why. My dad was a WWII B-17 pilot but never flew commercial. But we talked planes a lot.

I'm floating my eyeballs...

Andy: best of luck getting rid of your FLU BUG. maybe you need to melt some aluminum to get warm and smiling again?

I take Zinc when i'm starting to come down with something and my bride usually makes some good soup. also a lot of hot tea.

I haven't ever had a FLU SHOT that i know of and i'm sure my bride hasn't, but i know some of you guys especially the ones that were in the military religiously get them.

what's funny is the news people up here say there is a flu bug out there caused by the most recent flu shot and they tell EVERYBODY TO GO GET A SHOT. GO FIGURE

i'd love to be your neighbor cause I tend to find all the little stuff you need to finish these big projects and I love big old steel stuff and i still am amazed you have a CABOOSE ON YOUR PROPERTY.

I know HERSHEY is able to haul a few things around so maybe she'll drag out a bag or two of feed and feed the cows for you today?

cheers and get well soon!!

I got my flu shot a while back, and have had one every year for at least ten years, it does not seem to induce the flu in me...

I'm eating lots of oranges, too. This round has been mild, but I'm taking it extra easy because now this is round three this winter and I've got to get off the carousel.

We would have a lot of fun if you lived close.

Hershey knows I'm sick and just walks with me when I'm outside, no jumping. The other day I was setting out hay and the wind blew a gate shut. I really didn't feel like getting out of the Bobcat to open the gate and she was right there. I tried to convince her to push the gate back open but it didn't click. She was just glad to have me stopped so we could socialize.

Your taxes on the car are not dependent on engine power?
We have a tax depends on engine power. For your car with a capacity of 169 horsepower (126 kW) I pay in a year about $ 300.

No state to my knowledge taxes based on engine horsepower. Some states have an annual property tax on vehicles based on assessed value of the vehicle, but not all.

There were some premiums placed on "high performance" cars in the 1970's IIRC, but it didn't last long. In Oklahoma we pay some excise tax the first few years as JB noted.

Get well soon Andy. 1/2 is on his way.

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I missed 1/2 my nap looking for him. I'm pretty excited that he is coming...

Time for a good chicken broth and a lie in. Hope you get better soon. Take it easy for a while too. Some of these bugs can linger and trip you up again while you are down.

All the best!

Taking it easy for sure.

A lie in, yeah, I'd be good at that.

One of my favorite tag lines "If I told you I was a pathological liar, would you believe me?"

I've got to shake this.

I'm pretty sure I saw a "do not take internally" label on Andy's aluminum muffin mold.

I'm pretty sure aluminum is one of those necessary trace chemicals the body has to have.

My new doctor friend brought us our evening meal today. He's a surgeon, and it turns out his wife is a general practitioner (geriatric specialty) but we got to talking about my passing out and he had a plausible diagnosis. I told him my heart doctor's name and it turns out they're good friends. thumbup: He asked whether he had my approval to call and discuss my situation with the heart guy. Of course. He told me of a couple of reasonable possibilities which could be fatal. Hmmm, he got my attention. I told him in that case he'd better come back soon to learn more blacksmithing from me....

 

[Bob Heine]

My new doctor friend brought us our evening meal today. He's a surgeon, and it turns out his wife is a general practitioner (geriatric specialty) but we got to talking about my passing out and he had a plausible diagnosis. I told him my heart doctor's name and it turns out they're good friends. thumbup: He asked whether he had my approval to call and discuss my situation with the heart guy. Of course. He told me of a couple of reasonable possibilities which could be fatal. Hmmm, he got my attention. I told him in that case he'd better come back soon to learn more blacksmithing from me....

Andy, passing out is bad. Not as bad as passing but still bad. It sounds like you have some real doctors to help prevent that.

I get a lot of medical advice watching TV. I should keep a note pad handy to write down all the "ask your doctor if Razzlefixcondroitin is right for you. Side effects include nausea, swelling of the groin and death." I didn't actually write that down but I think it's close.

Please take care of yourself. Mom will be really mad at me if anything happens to you. I promised her I would look out for you and I'm not doing a very good job at the moment.

 

[gutted72]

Glad to hear you are feeling better. I'll try to stay away from your area until that flu bug has flown away.