Above 1200 Sq/FT Cleaning Up My Shop

[oddrodder]

About the size of it....


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[Finallygotit]

About the size of it....


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That is GOLD! I am printing that one out and hanging it in my shop.

 

[Farmall450]

I'd be down for a youtube video. Nothing purrs like an IH. I'm cleaning up a C right now; finishing up tires (if you ever need a good deal on fronts, Carlyle Farm Specialist is USA and cheap). NAPA got in my headgasket today so she can go back together soon (turns out someone else put SC pistons in).

 

[Grumblebum]

That is GOLD! I am printing that one out and hanging it in my shop.

ditto.

GB.

 

[shortykorte]

Andy, on the slim possibility of any profits from bracelets sells, let me remind you a certain someone probably still has my... er, I mean your Dewalt drill. I’d say it would be fair to keep any split in profits. I won’t tell if you don’t.
You can stamp my bracelet #3.


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[1/2 Cup]

About the size of it....


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Endorsed..

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy I don't need to say a thing...……….

I know, the bench could have been cleaned from the last job before starting this one.

That would have been 1996...

Yes! You're absolutely right.

Looks like you're having a ton of fun.

I'm having fun 24 times over. It must be good.

About the size of it....


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How did you know?

That is GOLD! I am printing that one out and hanging it in my shop.

I had one to put up but can't find it. Maybe I'll just get another one.

I'd be down for a youtube video. Nothing purrs like an IH. I'm cleaning up a C right now; finishing up tires (if you ever need a good deal on fronts, Carlyle Farm Specialist is USA and cheap). NAPA got in my headgasket today so she can go back together soon (turns out someone else put SC pistons in).

I'll post it when I get the time. I'd like to have it out there too.

I may ask you later who they are...

Likely the SC pistons were put in by an IH dealer. My grandpa's M has SM pistons and says Super M on the decal. IH had a free paint with overhaul program in the fifties and sixties and he had the M overhauled and painted. They asked him if he wanted SM stickers since it was "now a SM". Kind of. When I repaint it I suppose I'll put SM on it too, since it was labeled by a dealer and it's been that way sixty years.

ditto.

GB.

Andy, on the slim possibility of any profits from bracelets sells, let me remind you a certain someone probably still has my... er, I mean your Dewalt drill. I’d say it would be fair to keep any split in profits. I won’t tell if you don’t.
You can stamp my bracelet #3.

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Ssssh! I think I hear him...

Whispers: I'm trying to figure out how to cast a bracelet and think I have it. #3 it is. I suppose I should send #1 to him (unless he finds out and throws one of his fits)

Endorsed..

Whew! That was close, he was right here but didn't see your post. It will be buried soon enough.

I've now got 100 heats on my new furnace. 99 and 100 happened this morning when I made another trivet and another hammer. That reminds me, I have some hammers to ship. Heat 100:

I cleaned it out and partially disassembled it to do a mini turnaround. It needed nothing, everything looks good.

Here's a shot looking out from inside the burner cone (tuyere)

The crack at the top happened during initial cure of the refractory burner tile.

I have put brick mortar over the brick in the arch flue opening to protect it from tools as I'm loading the crucible. The expansion crack is only in the mortar.

I got gutsy and took the arch off and laid it on it's side for inspection. No yellow paint turned brown from heat!

I had it propped up to keep it mostly vertical, there is really nothing holding the brick in except a little spilled mortar.

Since it was out and accessible I put a skim coat of 3,000F mortar on the bottom of the arch. It looked like the bottom of the brick may have been getting a little erosion (it is real soft) so a skim coat of mortar will protect it. That's a pretty common practice in refinery brick furnaces, put a coat of mortar around openings to avoid wear.

It will be dry by morning and takes no special dryout for the first heat up.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Progress today!!

The saga of the shelf brackets continues. Episode 21:

Finished drilling the last three today and started the boring job. I have a 1" end mill which did the job quite well.

Since the blank is hand cut (with a form, however) there is some variation. I got lucky and they all could be cut from the same setting. Here you can see the end mill cut mostly around the opening.

A few seconds later the hole is trimmed.

All bored

Didn't scrap a part!!

Put them in my ******** (not that kind, Bob) four at a time and deburred and polished them in 30 minutes.

All done!! Ready for woodworking

Those big rocks even do a good job on the inside surfaces..

Thanks for stopping by, ladies and gentlemen.

 

[1/2 Cup]

Andy..

 

[Farmall450]

That's funny that the dealer would do that. Mine does have SC stickers; although I'm going to revert back to C stickers.

They are IH pistons. If the dealer painted it they didn't do the best job or use oem decals, though.

 

[Lyndon]

Andy..

I second what Steve said!

Lyndon
Don't have time for too many words, but I am watching!

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy..

Thanks, Steve!

That's funny that the dealer would do that. Mine does have SC stickers; although I'm going to revert back to C stickers.

They are IH pistons. If the dealer painted it they didn't do the best job or use oem decals, though.

I was a bit surprised at the dealer relabeling, but my grandpa told me himself.

Your C could have been relabeled by the dealer then whomever repainted it just copied what was there.

I used to believe lots of people rebadged their tractors but after learning about his I think it may have been the dealers.

I second what Steve said!

Lyndon
Don't have time for too many words, but I am watching!

Thanks for stopping in! I haven't forgotten you.

Nice tools from her dad.

 

[Farmall450]

Yeah, I'm with you in that boat. Not sure why the dealers would; I feel everyone knows (knew) the easiest way to distinguish them would be the brakes, which weren't changed.

 

[drivesitfar]

Handy: just curious if you like Aluminum chips better than steel on your mill and lathe or do they cut equally as well with your sharp tools?

I'm guessing it's SATURDAY in your world today?

I'm going to war against the Carpenter Ants today and my bride is armed and ready.

have a great day no matter what you do.

 

[rrcountry]

The brackets are looking great, Andy. The folks down at the pharmacy will love them.

Enjoy the holiday weekend!

 

[Terrick down Under]

The brackets look very professional, but then again you always make things to that grade. Sometimes you get lucky with the castings. I out a gas vent on an injection mould I made once in the wrong spot, when they first come out of the mould it looked like they had piles.

 

[Lee Celtic]

About the size of it....


I Know it's a way back up the thread but thats spot on.. Printing it out too..lol

 

[oldironfarmer]

Yeah, I'm with you in that boat. Not sure why the dealers would; I feel everyone knows (knew) the easiest way to distinguish them would be the brakes, which weren't changed.

Brakes until you get to the H and M. I believe the early SH and SM still had drum brakes and belly pumps.

I think the decals were all about HP. When they upped the engine displacement with new sleeves it ups the HP (but not to the full Super HP) and the owner was reasonable if he wanted to badge it for the higher HP.

Handy: just curious if you like Aluminum chips better than steel on your mill and lathe or do they cut equally as well with your sharp tools?

If you mean which would I rather cut, I guess it would be mild steel. It is very predictable. Aluminum cuts easier but tends to stick to the tool, gall, and leave a rough surface.

I'm guessing it's SATURDAY in your world today?

I checked the calendar, and it is Saturday!! Thanks for reminding me...

I'm going to war against the Carpenter Ants today and my bride is armed and ready.

have a great day no matter what you do.

How fitting to be going to war on Memorial Day weekend.

The brackets are looking great, Andy. The folks down at the pharmacy will love them.

Enjoy the holiday weekend!

Thanks! I hope so.

The brackets look very professional, but then again you always make things to that grade. Sometimes you get lucky with the castings. I out a gas vent on an injection mould I made once in the wrong spot, when they first come out of the mould it looked like they had piles.

Thank you Terrick! I did get lucky The theme is steampunk so I didn't worry too much about small variations.

About the size of it....


I Know it's a way back up the thread but thats spot on.. Printing it out too..lol

It's so sad, and it does not get better with age.

At my friend's house we did a melt and pour. His plan is to make a bulky casting and then machine to shape. He also uses existing items for patterns. He does very well at it. So we looked around for a pattern to cast and he suggested the two knobs to the left of the flask.

Since they were not flat on the back they do not lend themselves well to sand casting. So I tried putting the bottom of the knob extension at the parting line (between the two flask halves) then dug out to the large part of the knob when ramming the cope. This lets you removed the patterns from the sand and results in a parting line which is not a plane, but bends to where it needs to be. Does that make sense? I had read about the technique but had never done it. Maybe a picture will help.

The knobs came out very well. bottom

And top

Now they just need the sprues cut off, flashing trimmed, and a hole drilled and tapped for mounting.

This morning I made two trivets early on. They are getting better, I've improved my technique.

Thanks for stopping by!

 

[oldironfarmer]

Time to get on with the shelves for the pharmacy. I have already cut the six shelves from plywood so next is to make edge banding to hide the plywood cut edges. Looking around I found a 2x10 long enough so ripped 7/8" strips off and planed them down to 2/4" (just over the plywood thickness).

Then ripped those 3/4" thick pieces to 3/8" wide to be planed down to 1/4".

A word about safety. I use those push sticks. I can't seem to use the factory guards, can't see what is going on and they interfere with push sticks. My junior high shop teacher impressed me with "keeping your mind on the job keeps your fingers on your hands". It has always worked for me.

All cut and ready to plane

Really haven't used the saw much since the new dust collection system was finished. For the table saw it consists of a wafer board box under the saw with a large door to remove large pieces like thin slivers wihch won't go through the collection system.

I took the vacuum off the side so big pieces wouldn't clog it like if it were below. My goal was to improve air quality, not collect all the cut wood. There was more sawdust against the door which I removed for the picture. The sawdust in the bottom automatically settles to a flow path to the vacuum connection.

Sawdust on the floor was from opening the door. I still get some sawdust in my face.

Around back I did nothing. I want it to sweep all the air possible into the vacuum.

All planed and pretty. With any luck I'll get some shelves made.

Stay tuned. I'm still melting aluminum first thing in the morning.

 

[bj383ss]

Glad to a glimpse of sawdust being made in the woodshop Andy. How do you like the Grizzly combo planer? I have always wanted one to save space. I am also curious what the machine to the left behind the combo machine is?

Bret

 

[Farmall450]

Yes, there are two stages of SH/SM, however both have disc brakes. Belly pump & battery location being key.

 

[drivesitfar]

Handy: great to see you cutting some wood to make shelving or whatever for the pharmacy and thanks for mentioning the safety tips for all of us to know or remember when using our power tools.

just a reminder since you said you were going to melt some aluminum tomorrow that it's actually SUNDAY!!

we had our sort of relaxing rest day today and they really help to recharge my (our) batteries so to speak.

cheers and I think I saw tea bags so maybe just some hot water and ice cubes and i'll make my own tea when i stop by to watch all the goings on while you get stuff done.

 

[BUGTHUG]

Hey Andy, could you take a picture of all your storage boxes that in the picture of your wood working area? Trying to get some ideas for my shop. Thanks, BUG

 

[oldironfarmer]

Glad to a glimpse of sawdust being made in the woodshop Andy. How do you like the Grizzly combo planer? I have always wanted one to save space. I am also curious what the machine to the left behind the combo machine is?

Bret

Good to be making sawdust again.

The Grizzly planer has taken some getting used to. As with any combo machine it takes a bit of time to switch and it always seems to be in the wrong mode when I need it. But I'm getting used to that, I only use it for surface jointing and seldom put on the fence and jointer guard. You don't gain much for face jointing and for edge jointing I still have my 6" Craftsman. The thickness adjustment on the planer is backwards: counterclockwise lifts the table. It gives a nice finish if you're making a decent cut (has the spiral carbide cutterhead) but leaves drive roll marks if you take light cuts.

The old machine to the right (left?) is a Belsaw planer. I used to use it a lot but have not in several years and am about ready to give it away. It's in the way, but tuned up it makes very nice fine cuts and has rubber rollers which never mark the wood.

Yes, there are two stages of SH/SM, however both have disc brakes. Belly pump & battery location being key.

Thanks, my memory got fuzzy there.

Handy: great to see you cutting some wood to make shelving or whatever for the pharmacy and thanks for mentioning the safety tips for all of us to know or remember when using our power tools.

Thanks! These are the banding for the shelves for the brackets for the pipe frame for the nice lady for the new pharmacy for the customers.

Most guys know a lot more about woodworking than I do and I am not trying to instruct, but there are lots of people who look in and never comment and may have minimal woodworking skills. I'm sensitive to them seeing me do something which is really not recommended (like using machines without guards) and I try to point out the error of my ways. I don't think I'm unsafe, but my methods would be unsafe if you did not understand the consequences and know what to look for.

just a reminder since you said you were going to melt some aluminum tomorrow that it's actually SUNDAY!!

we had our sort of relaxing rest day today and they really help to recharge my (our) batteries so to speak.

cheers and I think I saw tea bags so maybe just some hot water and ice cubes and i'll make my own tea when i stop by to watch all the goings on while you get stuff done.

It is Sunday today, and even though it is calm and 60F I'm not melting aluminum I need to make some more lost foam brackets and did not get them made last night, and I'm caught up on trivets. I think I have six to deflash and finish up.

Hey Andy, could you take a picture of all your storage boxes that in the picture of your wood working area? Trying to get some ideas for my shop. Thanks, BUG

OK. They are old bolt trays from the local lumber yard. They do have a nice flat surface on top...

 

[shortykorte]

Looking forward to seeing the pharmacy shelves. Keep up the great lessons.


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[oldironfarmer]

Quick update. It got late last night and I was too tired to think. But I'm smelling blood on the shelving. First the foundry:

Trivet mold for my sister in law. I'm getting lots better at getting the pattern to come clean from the sand. Part of it is dropping the flask hard on the table a few times before separating to take the pattern out.

Usually after I pour I can relight the furnace by just turning the gas on. Usually. Sometimes it has cooled enough it does not light, now it's full of propane. Or it finally lights but puffs. I don't like either so I've taken to pinching the valve to leave a pilot flame going. It really needs a preset bypass to feed pilot fuel all the time. Kind of pretty with a lazy flame and a crucible full of hot metal.

Back to the wood shop. Got the shelf edges banded and 2/3 of them rounded. I spread glue with a Bondo spreader held down on the good corner so I get a wedge of glue, dry at the good face.

Sorry the glue does not show up very well.

Just the right amount of squeeze out for me.

And no squeeze out on the good side.

Joint will be dry a few places but I'm good with that rather than glue on the good face.

Since I used structural lumber for the edge banding I cut extra because of knots and defects but still came up short and elected to **** rather than mill out more pieces. Only had to do this two places.

I hate miters but these came out ok.

You can see the drive marks my planer left. They sand out pretty easily. Had I taken heavier cuts I would not have them but sneaking up on 1/4" thick I was more concerned about uniform thickness of all the material.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Looking forward to seeing the pharmacy shelves. Keep up the great lessons.


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Good morning Shorty!!

Not really great lessons

Anyway, it's what I did, WW1/2CD? Pretty sure he would not have used BC plywood for shelving with all the time spent on brackets. But I am cheap. As you can see in the previous post the shelves are not too straight. I don't think the warp will be noticeable in the store.

Six shelves with banding on the side.

Did I mention I hate miters? I'd rather have a square lap joint than a miter with a little gap. So the end banding is lapped.

And right this moment four of the six shelves have the corners rounded. That may change later today.

Confession time. Big screwup. The shelf frames she delivered to me have four crossbars (for four shelves). While we were in the pharmacy discussing the shelf she mentioned she wanted a shelf to go below the bottom location since the legs are long. OK. Then I asked if she would like a shelf to lay on the floor for merchandise as well. Yes. So, six shelves. But only five need brackets. So I have four brackets to go back into the crucible (all machined and polished, however). And the shelf just off the floor? It needs something to hold it to vertical pipe so I'm not done casting brackets for the shelf after all. At least I'm not getting paid...

Thanks for stopping in and viewing "Andy's How Not to do Woodworking and Design".

 

[dchance]

Andy good to see the work progress. I sounds like more design time to make the brackets to make the vertical brackets.

Dwight

 

[sawduststeve]

Evening Andy,
Your foundry work has been a revelation and an education to me, it's not something I've ever looked at, thanks for posting. the trivets are looking really sharp, Can you do a tuit the're also round..

Mitres prevent showing end grain , which is not always welcome, but with thin edge banding like yours ,it's less of a problem. I have a overhand/underhand planner like yours, it's used mostly under, for planning and leaves the self same roller marks on thin material.You can't rebate with the factory guards on the saw.
Paint the push sticks a bright colour , makes it less likely you can't find it, or tied to the machine on a length of string.

Regards
Steve

 

[1/2 Cup]

Andy, everything aside you have done a great job.

I can't wait to see the finished product.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy good to see the work progress. I sounds like more design time to make the brackets to make the vertical brackets.

Dwight

I went to design the new brackets and they looked so much like the old ones I just decided to mount the old ones on the post and have that one shelf be gravity only. I think I done. Or finished.

Evening Andy,
Your foundry work has been a revelation and an education to me, it's not something I've ever looked at, thanks for posting. the trivets are looking really sharp, Can you do a tuit the're also round..

I have never attained the status of round tuit. However I'm considering making some square tuits. They don't carry the same level of liability.

Mitres prevent showing end grain , which is not always welcome, but with thin edge banding like yours ,it's less of a problem. I have a overhand/underhand planner like yours, it's used mostly under, for planning and leaves the self same roller marks on thin material.You can't rebate with the factory guards on the saw.
Paint the push sticks a bright colour , makes it less likely you can't find it, or tied to the machine on a length of string.

Regards
Steve

Colorful push sticks. Nice idea. How did you know I keep making more?

Thanks for the thoughtful comments! Expert advice is nice. I still don't like miters.

Andy, everything aside you have done a great job.

I can't wait to see the finished product.

Thanks, Steve!

I'm afraid the finished product will be a big letdown, but it's been a nice trip.

Thanks for stopping by.

I managed to get the shelves sanded today, and a little filler put in the worst parts of the plywood.

Then started on a naturally aspirated foundry burner for my old friend. A good opportunity to practice lost foam. I thought about making a wooden pattern but I'll only make a few and I wanted to stamp his name in it, which works well with lost foam. After cutting cylinders for the main body and extensions I needed a boss for the pressure gauge (it will look like my existing burner) so I picked the drop out of the trash for the 1" piece and cut a disc out of it.

Pre-saddled! OK, a little large, but I've got wax.

Then glued it together.

Great recreational value in making lost foam patterns, knowing they will soon be aluminum. Painted on the mud and tomorrow it will be cast. Successfully, I hope.

This part of the burner never gets hot so aluminum will be fine.

Herb: My storage bins:

I haven't put much in yet, but the top is great storage. I really can't put stuff in the drawers until I get a round tuit for labels.

Thanks for the visits, guys!

 

[1/2 Cup]

Andy you will not know yourself when you get your storage bins done as there is nothing like getting things sorted..

 

[Guster]

There is only one thing worse than a picky paying customer and that is a picky non-paying customer. Not surprised that you are tired Andy... you've been working hard and cleaning too!

Now I feel bad for almost taking the whole weekend off.

 

[TMcCay]

I agree wholeheartedly with you Andy on the use of the push sticks and the tablesaw. When I was taught by my dad he refused to use the guard for the same reason. He always said the only carpenters he knew that were missing fingers or had a serious accident at the saw was because of the guard. But push
sticks were plentiful around the shop. He even had a couple he knew tell me their stories on their accidents.

We argued though on the terminology he used when I was using his power tools. He always told me to fear the tools. I argued that if I feared something then I wasn't going to be around it, however if I had a deep respect for what it was capable of then I stayed aware and focused on the use and where my body parts are. I've had very few kickbacks but my hands still have all of my fingers.

I am hoping to find a planer this year so thanks for your review of the Grizzly. I keep hoping that the stars will align for me and I will find one for sale and the money will be there at the same time. So far I haven't had the timing thing right yet.

Keep up the great work. I really enjoy your thread every day even though I don't post to it much.

 

[Bears Fan]

Nice job Andy! I enjoyed catching up with your thread while having my morning coffee, I'm with you on hating miter joints!

 

[Farmall450]

Bolt bins are indispensable!

 

[BUGTHUG]

They have some at a store here in town. They are closing after 70 or so years. The store was called Merchandise Mart originally, then turned into a Sentry Hardware, then a Ace Hardware. The building is over 100 years old. It got to be where they were in completion with Wal Mart and the bigger lumber yard.
They did have hard to find parts on the older appliances, but not enough to keep the business going. anyway they are selling all the fixtures and shelving. They have the nut and bolt bins that look like the ones you have, they were asking $20.00 each small section.? I was one of the first to leave my name when the time comes for them to close. They said they wouldn't sell the bins until all the content is gone. But I did notice a welder shop guy came in and bought about 40 bins with all the stainless

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy you will not know yourself when you get your storage bins done as there is nothing like getting things sorted..

I should be kicked for not having already done that.

There is only one thing worse than a picky paying customer and that is a picky non-paying customer. Not surprised that you are tired Andy... you've been working hard and cleaning too!

Now I feel bad for almost taking the whole weekend off.

Picky customers, paying or non-paying don't get much attention around here any more. I'm learning why old people are considered crotchety. I just don't have time for whining.

If you don't like my hay go somewhere else. No, I said go somewhere else. It's not for sale anymore.

I agree wholeheartedly with you Andy on the use of the push sticks and the tablesaw. When I was taught by my dad he refused to use the guard for the same reason. He always said the only carpenters he knew that were missing fingers or had a serious accident at the saw was because of the guard. But push
sticks were plentiful around the shop. He even had a couple he knew tell me their stories on their accidents.

We argued though on the terminology he used when I was using his power tools. He always told me to fear the tools. I argued that if I feared something then I wasn't going to be around it, however if I had a deep respect for what it was capable of then I stayed aware and focused on the use and where my body parts are. I've had very few kickbacks but my hands still have all of my fingers.

I am hoping to find a planer this year so thanks for your review of the Grizzly. I keep hoping that the stars will align for me and I will find one for sale and the money will be there at the same time. So far I haven't had the timing thing right yet.

Keep up the great work. I really enjoy your thread every day even though I don't post to it much.

I agree with you on the respect but not fear. It is hard to safely be around anything you fear.

A used planer would be the way to go. Most home tools don't get used very much.

Glad you look in! Commenting is optional, too.

Nice job Andy! I enjoyed catching up with your thread while having my morning coffee, I'm with you on hating miter joints!

Thanks! When I was making hundreds of miter joints I was jigged up for it and that makes them easy. I struggle to do a few.

Bolt bins are indispensable!

They have some at a store here in town. They are closing after 70 or so years. The store was called Merchandise Mart originally, then turned into a Sentry Hardware, then a Ace Hardware. The building is over 100 years old. It got to be where they were in completion with Wal Mart and the bigger lumber yard.
They did have hard to find parts on the older appliances, but not enough to keep the business going. anyway they are selling all the fixtures and shelving. They have the nut and bolt bins that look like the ones you have, they were asking $20.00 each small section.? I was one of the first to leave my name when the time comes for them to close. They said they wouldn't sell the bins until all the content is gone. But I did notice a welder shop guy came in and bought about 40 bins with all the stainless

I think I paid $1 per drawer. That seemed high to me, but not as high as trying to make that many. They do stack nicely. You probably need to wait and go to their liquidation auction.

I got out early today and rammed up a trivet. The molds are coming out nice now. A lot less cleanup

Poured the trivet and the burner guts. The little boss came out perfect, even though it was up in the sand.

Sawed off the sprue

And turned it between centers. The foam was glued together a little crooked (who did that?) so the casting was crooked. So I center drilled each end in the mark left by the nail in the center of the foam circle. Then mounted between centers so the large section would be true to the centerline of the center drills. Then I can chuck up on the big part and drill through from one center mark to the other. Chucking up on one of the ends made the other end wobble. Wobble baby wobble...

Yes, that's a center punch in the chuck, I couldn't find a center and didn't want to take the time to make one. WW1/2CD?

Turned it down to about 0.003" under the pipe bore, I can't remember what that was, I wrote it down somewhere, and the piece fits in well.

Drill through, cross drill, tap and pressure test and it's done. Pressure test because scrap aluminum may leak, if so I'll seal it with sodium silicate.

My helper took Bob over to the development to fill potholes on the road and he quit working. We got him home but I may have to work on him tomorrow.

Thanks for the visits, guys!!

 

[gmarcucio]

Here's some cleaning out to do!

 

[1/2 Cup]

WW1/2CD?

Exactly that - improvise.