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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.

Guster

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Turned it down to about 0.003" under the pipe bore, I can't remember what that was, I wrote it down somewhere, and the piece fits in well.

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Drill through, cross drill, tap and pressure test and it's done. Pressure test because scrap aluminum may leak, if so I'll seal it with sodium silicate.

My helper took Bob over to the development to fill potholes on the road and he quit working. We got him home but I may have to work on him tomorrow.:(

Thanks for the visits, guys!!

The burner guts looks interesting Andy!

How do you seal cast aluminium with sodium silicate?

Here's some cleaning out to do!

Spotted Bill Hines almost right away and the photo name gave it away:
https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2015/03/26/bill-hines-is-still-slinging-lead-at-age-93/

Can't say much about the state of the shop he's in though... :rolleyes2
 
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Here's some cleaning out to do!

I still see some flat surfaces which are not being used, and another drawer could be opened and a board laid on top.

Classic picture.

WW1/2CD?

Exactly that - improvise.

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The burner guts looks interesting Andy!

How do you seal cast aluminium with sodium silicate?

Sodium silicate is waterglass, commonly used in radiator stop leak but also used by manufacturers of cast parts. You can put a solution of waterglass in the aluminum casting, seal it up, pressurize it and rotate until the cast parts are wetted. Then drain and bake to 105C or more and the waterglass converts to a durable solid.

Spotted Bill Hines almost right away and the photo name gave it away:
https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2015/03/26/bill-hines-is-still-slinging-lead-at-age-93/

Can't say much about the state of the shop he's in though... :rolleyes2

Apparently the state of the shop did not prevent his success. I think Einstein had a comment on a cluttered work area.

Andy glad to see you are keeping busy!:lol_hitti

Thanks, Bobby. I currently have the dreaded boredom at bay.

Hey Andy, I've finally caught up on your thread again.

Your casting is becoming very professional looking. :bowdown:

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Glad to have you anytime!

Thanks for the casting comment!! I want to get better. Not bitter.

I had a really good day today. Cast another trivet and a hammer. I have several to desprue and clean up, but I'd rather make more. It's my retirement. I'm getting low on prepared scrap so I tackled a large sign I had (4 feet by 6 feet). It was heavy and I assumed it had several ballasts inside but the weight was all aluminum.:thumbup:

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Here are the shelf frames which started the bracket casting saga.

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They are only about 10-3/4" inside which is not a very wide shelf. The shelves were cut 11-7/8" to maximize use of the plywood. Plan has always been to notch the shelves around the uprights. (Really, from the beginning. Would I lie to you?)

1-1/2" diameter notch 5/8" into the board. I started to use a Forstner bit but had changed my mind on overhang and had some nails in the way. The hole saw did so well (at cutting nails too) I just stayed with it.

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I'm lazy and didn't want to move my drill press so I had to cut half the notches from the back.

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They came out so

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Then I made up some stain samples and went to lunch to stop by the pharmacy and get a decision on which stain to use.

Now I've got more filling, sanding, and staining to do, then drill to match the brackets, assemble and ship, err, deliver.:rocker:

Then I chucked up (rather than up chucked) the burner piece. Drilled through with a thread for 1/4"-28 on one end and 3/8" NPT on the other.

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It can't loan me money now, it's all tapped out.

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Drill the burner tube and tap it for setcrews and the burner is finished.

Thanks for stopping in. Cokes are next to the blue car.
 

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Sodium silicate is waterglass, commonly used in radiator stop leak but also used by manufacturers of cast parts. You can put a solution of waterglass in the aluminum casting, seal it up, pressurize it and rotate until the cast parts are wetted. Then drain and bake to 105C or more and the waterglass converts to a durable solid.
It's also what they used to insure all the motors from the cash for clunkers cars were permanently destroyed.
 

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They have some at a store here in town. They are closing after 70 or so years. The store was called Merchandise Mart originally, then turned into a Sentry Hardware, then a Ace Hardware. The building is over 100 years old. It got to be where they were in completion with Wal Mart and the bigger lumber yard.
They did have hard to find parts on the older appliances, but not enough to keep the business going.:sad: anyway they are selling all the fixtures and shelving. They have the nut and bolt bins that look like the ones you have, they were asking $20.00 each small section.? I was one of the first to leave my name when the time comes for them to close. They said they wouldn't sell the bins until all the content is gone. But I did notice a welder shop guy came in and bought about 40 bins with all the stainless :headscrat

Herb,
If you get that call I'd be interested in buying a half-dozen or so of them, let me know.

It can't loan me money now, it's all tapped out.

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Drill the burner tube and tap it for setcrews and the burner is finished.

Thanks for stopping in. Cokes are next to the blue car.

Andy,
Sorry for the little hijack back there, but you know it is easier to work on a vehicle when it is on a hijack, but lowjack is great for finding it if it gets stolen. Awesome job on the burner, simple and effective like all great designs.

JB
 

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Andy: I agree that mitered corners are hard to match and look perfect so congrats for making yours without them and rounding them off cause they look pretty good. also nice that you are helping the young Pharmacist get her business up and running cause starting a business (any business) in these days of online shopping and huge corporations giving deep volume discounts has to be hard. i hope she and the business succeeds and i bet it will with you endorsing it like you do.

great work on the shelving and the forge and hope the critters are all getting Handy's attention too when they need some especially Hershey.

take care and enjoy your SATURDAY and i'm sure you'll be busy.

cheers just made another 4 gallons of Moroccan ice tea so i'm going to pass on the coke today.
 
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It's also what they used to insure all the motors from the cash for clunkers cars were permanently destroyed.

Yep! I've read they used it for motor oil and when it got hot it seized. I've never understood the value of that program, other than to car dealers.

Andy now I get the big picture with your shelves, they will look awesome..:bowdown:

Thank you, Steve. I hope you're right.:bounce:

I have just been looking at your pipe shelf stands. So which connection has a slip joint?

One column has welded joints in the tee branches. My issue is the rest of the joints are not even hand tight and I have no way to tightened them. I've tried putting epoxy onto the joints but not sure it will help much.


Thanks!

Herb,
If you get that call I'd be interested in buying a half-dozen or so of them, let me know.

I might trade some for aluminum :headscrat

Andy,
Sorry for the little hijack back there, but you know it is easier to work on a vehicle when it is on a hijack, but lowjack is great for finding it if it gets stolen. Awesome job on the burner, simple and effective like all great designs.

JB

Sometimes you barely make sense. I understand you during those times.

Yes, there is hardly anything to the burner, other than it will make a nice blue flame. :)

Andy: I agree that mitered corners are hard to match and look perfect so congrats for making yours without them and rounding them off cause they look pretty good. also nice that you are helping the young Pharmacist get her business up and running cause starting a business (any business) in these days of online shopping and huge corporations giving deep volume discounts has to be hard. i hope she and the business succeeds and i bet it will with you endorsing it like you do.

Thanks for the good words, Drives.

We discussed business climate and the future of independent pharmacies at length before embarking on this venture. She convinced me there is a place for an independent pharmacy. We are part of a buying group which gets wholesale costs down to allow head to head competition with the major chains. Mail order is a threat, but not all people want to buy mail order. There is a place for people who need or want to consult face to face with a pharmacist. And she is very good at helping people understand their medications and the side effects. The doctors appreciate working with her as well. It just takes time to grow a grass roots business. And patience is not my long suit. While we could have bought a shelf, she thought she would save some money buying the frame and laying some boards on it. My goal is to make her decision a good one.

great work on the shelving and the forge and hope the critters are all getting Handy's attention too when they need some especially Hershey.

Keeping livestock and pets requires that you take care of them. Hershey chose us but she is my ward now. Today we bought her a swimming pool. She looks like she does not handle the heat well and goes to the creek frequently. My wife thought a pool would help her stay cool and she got right in.

take care and enjoy your SATURDAY and i'm sure you'll be busy.

cheers just made another 4 gallons of Moroccan ice tea so i'm going to pass on the coke today.

Thanks! I did have a good Saturday. Finished sanding all the shelves and started filling nail holes. also fired up the forge and bent a piece of square stock to finish up my crucible pouring shank. Clay graphite crucible, not the 304 ss one. Stainless is not competent for brass, bronze, and copper so I have to tool up for standard crucibles.

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The shank has a C shaped ring at the bottom that slides part way up the crucible. The square stock is welded to the silver tube (a piece of ss I had laying around) and the heat shield is welded to them both.

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With the sliding portion retracted the shank will stand on it's own.

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Then when you set the crucible in and lift it, you can slide the tang over the top of the crucible and twist the handle to contact the crucible to hold it in the shank. It happens to turn 90 degrees so the shield doesn't look like it's turned.

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The tang is offset so you can put pressure on the top of the crucible to hold it firmly as you pour.

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You can even go full upside down to shake out slag. Next is to put some hot metal in it and see how it performs.

Thanks for stopping by!
 

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Thanks for the sodium silicate description. :bowdown: I've been looking to get some to create CO2 activated sand molds and treat ceramic fibre blanket though I wasn't aware of the other uses for it. It is not easily come by locally(same old story) but on my list of things to order eventually.

Pouring shank looks great Andy. Good to hear you are gearing up to cast copper alloys next as well! :thumbup: Do you plan to upgrade the burner too or do you plan to test with LPG first?

Looking forward to Saturday and a long weekend. The wind direction just changed signalling the end of the polar blast cold snap we've had. It has been an intense week at work and I'm looking forward to time on the water and time in the shed to put the finishing touches on some projects.
 

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It's also what they used to insure all the motors from the cash for clunkers cars were permanently destroyed.

oldironfarmer:
Yep! I've read they used it for motor oil and when it got hot it seized. I've never understood the value of that program, other than to car dealers.

I'm one of the benefactors of 'Cash for Clunkers.' I had a 1993 GMC Sierra 8 ft bed pickup, 4.3 liter V6, PS, PB, AC, auto ******. I bought it from one of my co-workers on fire-rescue when he was buying a new GMC. I had it about 9 years, and it was going to need some preventative maintenance, such-as new paint, and repairs to the AC, I forget what-else. I wasn't going to put a $2,000 paint job on it, just something to make it look better. The total bill for what needed to be done was about $3,000. At that point it had about 130,000 miles. It was hard-pressed to do 80 mph, 70 mph was a more-relaxed speed on the interstate, and at that speed in south Florida, you have people passing you on the left and on the right.

'Cash for Clunkers' was announced, and they went the first week, and the funds were depleted. They announced another round of funding, and my wife told me, "go buy a new truck!" I did. I used the 'Cash for Clunkers' program to buy a new GMC Canyon crew cab, loaded, inline 5 cyl DOHC 3.7 liter 242 HP/242 ft. lb torque; PS, PB, auto ******, tilt, cruise, PW, PDL, sliding rear window, tow package, aluminum wheels, am/fm/cd/On-Star & XM radio; bed liner. About every option except 4WD, leather interior, and a sunroof. I normally don't buy them, but I decided to buy an extended warranty, through my credit union who financed it. It was the first new car/truck I've ever-owned.

After all the salesman dickering, I got the price from just under $30,000 out the door, to just under $20,000 out the door. A big chunk of that was 'Cash for Clunkers.' I also had a GM employee discount, which stopped the junk fees, cold. For me, 'Cash for Clunkers' gave me a great opportunity that I took after taking a bit of prodding from my wife. She's an engineer, and crunching data is her job. I'm glad she did that here, my truck just turned 111,111 miles last week and is still running well, after 9 years. Since we both just retired, I'm expecting this truck will last me another 9 years, or more.

Here's a platform I designed to add some carrying area to the truck. I would have added side and rear lights and a license plate holder to it if someone hadn't stolen it from my backyard. I hate thieves. It had a support of 2" square steel stock, and an aluminum diamond plate bed.

I like reading about the casting you do, I did a bit of aluminum casting in school, it was a lot of fun, back when schools still offered wood shop and metal shop.

I'm not a machinist, but I have friends who are! A good alternative. Here are a couple wheels I commissioned for my motorcycle hobby. The welded one is a 17" X 5-1/2" rim while the bolt-up is an 18" X 5-1/2" and they use the splined hub from the bike's final drive, so it's an easy swap. The guy who did the wheels is a second-generation machinist. Both his dad and he worked for Crane Cams when it was owned by Harvey Crane, whom I knew. My friend went out on his own in his 20's. Now my friend does a lot of work for offshore powerboat racers and Porsche racers.

I enjoy seeing the fabrication you do, I can get some ideas for stuff I would like to do, with the help of my more-talented friends.
 

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Handy: I think we need a few pics or maybe a video of Hershey playing in the new kiddie/doggie pool?

that shield piece looks like a great addition and does it deflect a lot of the heat away from you as it's designed to? your forge just keeps improving and nice work making all the parts yourself mostly from bits and pieces you have laying around too.

hope you had a great day!!
 
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Thanks for the sodium silicate description. :bowdown: I've been looking to get some to create CO2 activated sand molds and treat ceramic fibre blanket though I wasn't aware of the other uses for it. It is not easily come by locally(same old story) but on my list of things to order eventually.

You know you can make it from silca gel beads and lye. I've never tried but it looks pretty simple.

Pouring shank looks great Andy. Good to hear you are gearing up to cast copper alloys next as well! :thumbup: Do you plan to upgrade the burner too or do you plan to test with LPG first?

Thanks! I'm about ready to make some brass hammers. The propane burner will melt it I'm sure, but I'm also moving forward with a drip burner. My burner tube may be a bit small for the siphon nozzle so I'm going with a drip burner first, which also requires less rigid filtration.

Looking forward to Saturday and a long weekend. The wind direction just changed signalling the end of the polar blast cold snap we've had. It has been an intense week at work and I'm looking forward to time on the water and time in the shed to put the finishing touches on some projects.

Hope you have some QST and QWT as well!:bounce::bounce:

All tapped out.

I DIEd laughing at that one.


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I was so sorry to hear the results. Are there services planned?

I'll try to be more cognizant of the potential ramifications of my innocent statements in the future.

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It's also what they used to insure all the motors from the cash for clunkers cars were permanently destroyed.

oldironfarmer:
Yep! I've read they used it for motor oil and when it got hot it seized. I've never understood the value of that program, other than to car dealers.

I'm one of the benefactors of 'Cash for Clunkers.' I had a 1993 GMC Sierra 8 ft bed pickup, 4.3 liter V6, PS, PB, AC, auto ******. I bought it from one of my co-workers on fire-rescue when he was buying a new GMC. I had it about 9 years, and it was going to need some preventative maintenance, such-as new paint, and repairs to the AC, I forget what-else. I wasn't going to put a $2,000 paint job on it, just something to make it look better. The total bill for what needed to be done was about $3,000. At that point it had about 130,000 miles. It was hard-pressed to do 80 mph, 70 mph was a more-relaxed speed on the interstate, and at that speed in south Florida, you have people passing you on the left and on the right.

'Cash for Clunkers' was announced, and they went the first week, and the funds were depleted. They announced another round of funding, and my wife told me, "go buy a new truck!" I did. I used the 'Cash for Clunkers' program to buy a new GMC Canyon crew cab, loaded, inline 5 cyl DOHC 3.7 liter 242 HP/242 ft. lb torque; PS, PB, auto ******, tilt, cruise, PW, PDL, sliding rear window, tow package, aluminum wheels, am/fm/cd/On-Star & XM radio; bed liner. About every option except 4WD, leather interior, and a sunroof. I normally don't buy them, but I decided to buy an extended warranty, through my credit union who financed it. It was the first new car/truck I've ever-owned.

After all the salesman dickering, I got the price from just under $30,000 out the door, to just under $20,000 out the door. A big chunk of that was 'Cash for Clunkers.' I also had a GM employee discount, which stopped the junk fees, cold. For me, 'Cash for Clunkers' gave me a great opportunity that I took after taking a bit of prodding from my wife. She's an engineer, and crunching data is her job. I'm glad she did that here, my truck just turned 111,111 miles last week and is still running well, after 9 years. Since we both just retired, I'm expecting this truck will last me another 9 years, or more.

Here's a platform I designed to add some carrying area to the truck. I would have added side and rear lights and a license plate holder to it if someone hadn't stolen it from my backyard. I hate thieves. It had a support of 2" square steel stock, and an aluminum diamond plate bed.

I like reading about the casting you do, I did a bit of aluminum casting in school, it was a lot of fun, back when schools still offered wood shop and metal shop.

I'm not a machinist, but I have friends who are! A good alternative. Here are a couple wheels I commissioned for my motorcycle hobby. The welded one is a 17" X 5-1/2" rim while the bolt-up is an 18" X 5-1/2" and they use the splined hub from the bike's final drive, so it's an easy swap. The guy who did the wheels is a second-generation machinist. Both his dad and he worked for Crane Cams when it was owned by Harvey Crane, whom I knew. My friend went out on his own in his 20's. Now my friend does a lot of work for offshore powerboat racers and Porsche racers.

I enjoy seeing the fabrication you do, I can get some ideas for stuff I would like to do, with the help of my more-talented friends.

Nice truck!! Glad the clunker program worked out for you. That sounds like you got a pretty good deal.

Another practical piece of kit by Andy. Well done :thumbup:

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cheers GB

Thank you!:bowdown: Getting kitted up is my favorite activity. I'm just not too good at follow through.:lol_hitti

Handy: I think we need a few pics or maybe a video of Hershey playing in the new kiddie/doggie pool?

that shield piece looks like a great addition and does it deflect a lot of the heat away from you as it's designed to? your forge just keeps improving and nice work making all the parts yourself mostly from bits and pieces you have laying around too.

Sadly her toenails went through the bottom and drained it quickly. She had fun while it lasted. I had an old plastic stock tank I cut the top off of yesterday morning to make it shorter so she can get in and out easier. She likes it. No pictures yet, maybe tomorrow.

We'll have to wait until I use the new pouring shank to see how it works. Radiant energy from the crucible is the issue, you hand can get pretty hot. The shield should protect the hand and wrist, I'll let you know.

My wife's cousin and wife came yesterday and left mid-day today. He's a great blacksmith (we made a full size working bear trap years ago) so we made his wife a trivet and a hammer for him. We are old friends and get along great. Not much shop work today, I cleaned up a little for my Zumba teacher.

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Yes, that is clean. See all that empty flat surface?

She is finally coming back to finish her chairs and I promised to make her a trivet. I've got to get on finishing trivets, I've got nine ready to cut apart right now, and seventeen hammers to finish.

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Fortunately I still have enough to do I can wait to start new projects.

Thanks for stopping by. I love having visitors.:bowdown:
 

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As above, nice and safe as well.:thumbup:

Thanks, Steve. Safety is of utmost importance when handling hot metal. A major spill could cause loss of a foot or hand with significant pain and agony. Life is not without risk but it needs to be minimized around 1,500F liquid.

Thanks for stopping by and commenting. :)
 

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Andy if you end up with some sort of an exchange program for brass hammers I'd like to be on the list. I can bring the brass even, and perhaps a little extra but I don't have much floating around, mostly sinking around.

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Will cast for brass. :rocker::rocker::rocker:

What's a fair exchange rate? :headscrat

Of course if you come and help just bring enough to pour with. I'll figure that out.

Got to check your brass with a magnet: there's lots of brass plated steel around. :spit:
 
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My Zumba teacher came and stayed all day. We cast her a trivet then fixed some home grown hamburgers for a nice lunch. Spent all afternoon putting her two chairs back together.

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She started out asking me if I could cut a board to repair the seats. I said yes, but why don't you put caning back in, it comes pre-woven. She decided she would like caning but wanted me to reglue the joints. She came last year and we took the chairs apart. She went home to strip them but after doing the backs decided she would paint them, didn't like the wood. We tried to reassemble in January but she had forgotten the backs so came back today.

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We could disassemble them because they were put together with hide glue. We reglued them with hide glue. I think they are 1890's vintage, factory made but worth repairing.

That was a nice break from the normal routine.

A new project that has popped up is to make a fixture to hold planer blades on the surface grinder. I think it's a prime candidate for lost foam casting.

Thanks for visiting. :thumbup:
 

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...also fired up the forge and bent a piece of square stock to finish up my crucible pouring shank. Clay graphite crucible, not the 304 ss one. Stainless is not competent for brass, bronze, and copper so I have to tool up for standard crucibles.

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The shank has a C shaped ring at the bottom that slides part way up the crucible. The square stock is welded to the silver tube (a piece of ss I had laying around) and the heat shield is welded to them both.

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With the sliding portion retracted the shank will stand on it's own.

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Then when you set the crucible in and lift it, you can slide the tang over the top of the crucible and twist the handle to contact the crucible to hold it in the shank. It happens to turn 90 degrees so the shield doesn't look like it's turned.

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The tang is offset so you can put pressure on the top of the crucible to hold it firmly as you pour.

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You can even go full upside down to shake out slag. Next is to put some hot metal in it and see how it performs.

Thanks for stopping by!

That's really great work Andy. :bowdown:


...We'll have to wait until I use the new pouring shank to see how it works. Radiant energy from the crucible is the issue, you hand can get pretty hot. The shield should protect the hand and wrist, I'll let you know...

Maybe a coiled springy handle like on a chipping hammer would slow the rate of heat transfer to your glove. :dunno:



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Yes, that is clean. See all that empty flat surface?

I'm impressed. :thumbup:
 

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Will cast for brass. :rocker::rocker::rocker:

What's a fair exchange rate? :headscrat

Of course if you come and help just bring enough to pour with. I'll figure that out.

Got to check your brass with a magnet: there's lots of brass plated steel around. :spit:

Timing may be an issue, sadly I don't have much time off planned other than next week for a bit. I may just take 19/30 off in July to swing by. Most of it I have already checked but will go over it again. I certainly don't want to bring by inferior products. :)

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That's really great work Andy. :bowdown:

Maybe a coiled springy handle like on a chipping hammer would slow the rate of heat transfer to your glove. :dunno:

I'm impressed. :thumbup:

Thanks!!

The issue is radiant heat, however. The shank won't get hot, but a 2,000F crucible a little smaller than a soccer ball can put off lots of radiant heat. A little shield breaks that radiant energy.

Timing may be an issue, sadly I don't have much time off planned other than next week for a bit. I may just take 19/30 off in July to swing by. Most of it I have already checked but will go over it again. I certainly don't want to bring by inferior products. :)

JB

I did measure a hammer with sprue and runner, 14+ ounces. It will take about 3 pounds of brass to pour one of those hammers, and depending on how much yo lose to dross, a minimum four pounds into the crucible would probably make the pour.

I'm in no hurry, but I am getting older by the day. You might not get Brass #2, however.:lol_hitti

Have a great trip!
 

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Wood working area is looking great. Doubling as a pattern making area these days! :thumbup:

You know you can make it from silca gel beads and lye. I've never tried but it looks pretty simple.

Yup. Though it looks like a lot of fuss since the desiccant beads cost almost as much as the solution. So I'll just be buying some this time. :thumbup:

Thanks! I'm about ready to make some brass hammers. The propane burner will melt it I'm sure, but I'm also moving forward with a drip burner. My burner tube may be a bit small for the siphon nozzle so I'm going with a drip burner first, which also requires less rigid filtration.

Sounds like a good plan. Wish you were closer so I could send you some stainless... I have lots of 2" and 2.5" stainless

Managed to get some very nice fine stainless mesh from the metal recyclers to make some oil filters. But I have a small predicament. I need to make a filter to strain waste oil which is what the spot-welder is going to be used for. The spot welder frame will be cast aluminium which is what the casting setup is going to be used for. Like a dog chasing its own tail... good thing I can burn diesel/kerosene or just make an LPG burner! :headscrat

The alternative option is to use cheap import engine oil filters. Would be nice to cast a manifold for one. Would also have to make/repurpose a small pump for it - power steering pump perhaps. Things to think about.

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I've been holding on to old brass tap-ware and plan to strip the chrome with some muriatic acid. The mixer handles were also chromed steel. My metal recyclers have drums full so I can always get some at about $5/kg if I needed it. I think that would be my best source for brass scrap.
 

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Handy: i'm not a metal engineer or scientist guy per se, but isn't brass mixed with steel bronze or is that nickle and bronze or?

Also I can't recall where I saw this, but i did save a picture so you and your fans can maybe keep your eyes out for some to find their way to you.

also maybe a hard plastic RUBBERMAID trough would work well for Hershey's pool with maybe a step up into it or a ramp in and out?

have a great SATURDAY and i'm already having a great one myself!!
 

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My Zumba teacher came and stayed all day. We cast her a trivet then fixed some home grown hamburgers for a nice lunch. Spent all afternoon putting her two chairs back together.

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She started out asking me if I could cut a board to repair the seats. I said yes, but why don't you put caning back in, it comes pre-woven. She decided she would like caning but wanted me to reglue the joints. She came last year and we took the chairs apart. She went home to strip them but after doing the backs decided she would paint them, didn't like the wood. We tried to reassemble in January but she had forgotten the backs so came back today.
So, the backs are back?

Time to get back to work!

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That is fine, I have aluminum #3 so it would be neat to have a matching set. :)

JB

Ok, I'll reserve #3 for you :lol_hitti

Wood working area is looking great. Doubling as a pattern making area these days! :thumbup:

Yup. Though it looks like a lot of fuss since the desiccant beads cost almost as much as the solution. So I'll just be buying some this time. :thumbup:

I've not made it but have been saving desiccant beads. gives my hoarding intuition some satisfaction. And now the pharmacy is saving them for me too. Sodium silicate may be cheaper down there. $15 for 500 ml.

Sounds like a good plan. Wish you were closer so I could send you some stainless... I have lots of 2" and 2.5" stainless

Managed to get some very nice fine stainless mesh from the metal recyclers to make some oil filters. But I have a small predicament. I need to make a filter to strain waste oil which is what the spot-welder is going to be used for. The spot welder frame will be cast aluminium which is what the casting setup is going to be used for. Like a dog chasing its own tail... good thing I can burn diesel/kerosene or just make an LPG burner! :headscrat

The alternative option is to use cheap import engine oil filters. Would be nice to cast a manifold for one. Would also have to make/repurpose a small pump for it - power steering pump perhaps. Things to think about.

...

I've been holding on to old brass tap-ware and plan to strip the chrome with some muriatic acid. The mixer handles were also chromed steel. My metal recyclers have drums full so I can always get some at about $5/kg if I needed it. I think that would be my best source for brass scrap.

I wish we were closer. Scrap yards around here have quit selling scrap. There are some recyclers but their prices are pretty high for buying stuff you may not need. I just don't want to have a lot of stuff laying around I may never use. :headscrat

$5/kilo is pretty cheap for brass. So far I've collected quite a bit, maybe a couple hundred pounds. But I'm always worried I'll run out. :willy_nil I made a brass hammer today and it took a water meter cover and a spigot and some other junk. Not much really.

How about cheesecloth in a big funnel for filtering oil? Until you get the oil to cast the welder to weld the tank to filter the oil. I plan to use an old oil filter we put on a log splitter years and years ago and pump it with air pressure.

Handy: i'm not a metal engineer or scientist guy per se, but isn't brass mixed with steel bronze or is that nickle and bronze or?

The primary constituents of brass are copper and zinc. Conversely, bronze is copper and tin. But some brasses have a little tin and some bronzes have a little zinc.

Also I can't recall where I saw this, but i did save a picture so you and your fans can maybe keep your eyes out for some to find their way to you.

also maybe a hard plastic RUBBERMAID trough would work well for Hershey's pool with maybe a step up into it or a ramp in and out?

have a great SATURDAY and i'm already having a great one myself!!

Sorry your picture did not come through.

I keep forgetting to take a picture of Hershey's pool. It's an old plastic stock tank I cut the top off of. She needs no ramp :lol_hitti

BTW... Congrats on Post #5000. Fitting it was only 1/2 there.

Thanks for noticing.:bowdown:

It was 1/2 enjoyable.

So, the backs are back?

Time to get back to work!

:lol_hitti

The backs are back and we got back to work back in the same location, I'll get back to you with pictures..
 

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Handy: the picture i posted i posted directly to GJ and it's still showing for me so not sure why you can't see it. here it is again and maybe you'll see it this time. nothing really special as far as small toolboxes go, but the name and the graphics you might enjoy.

thanks for the metal lesson. also sounds like you might be doing a copper hammer and maybe a lead hammer soon?

I thought Hershey could figure out how to get in water when I recall seeing her sitting in your herd's feed troughs.

hope you had a great day and from the sounds of it i'm guessing you did.

cheers and just popped the top on a Heineken.
 
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A quick update. I've been having constipated computer problems but things are smooth now.

Sunday at church an old friend was using a cane he bought at the last auction I had gone to. Sentimental value. He had wood burned some scriptures into it. He is a real genuine folk artist and never sells anything.

It had no top filial and as he was showing it to me I offered to make one. He put the cane in my hand.

So I got busy and turned one out of Bois D'arc. From a piece of split wood in my shop. Cane was 0.930" and I did not want to turn the cane down so I bored the filial to 0.005" over.

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I had turned it for a copper ring at the top. About 0.005" interference.

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Trimmed the handle, sanded, pressed on the ring, coated it then glued it on.

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Handy: the picture i posted i posted directly to GJ and it's still showing for me so not sure why you can't see it. here it is again and maybe you'll see it this time. nothing really special as far as small toolboxes go, but the name and the graphics you might enjoy.

thanks for the metal lesson. also sounds like you might be doing a copper hammer and maybe a lead hammer soon?

I thought Hershey could figure out how to get in water when I recall seeing her sitting in your herd's feed troughs.

hope you had a great day and from the sounds of it i'm guessing you did.

cheers and just popped the top on a Heineken.

Dang! Still nothing for me :sad:
 

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Handy: no wonder I forgot to attach the picture to the last post. very nice work on the handle and your friends sound like some very interesting people.

here's the 2 Handy Andy toolbox picture. ok?
 

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Made a liner to reduce the crucible my new shank will hold.

Bent some 3/16"x1"

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While I had the forge hot I took a 5" OD split ring I found and spread it to 5-1'2" to fit the small crucible. Thenn turned four 3/8" colts to 1/4".

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Tapped the plates then welded into an assembly.

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The bolts hold it from coming up when you lower the shank.

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And the crucible fits.

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