Above 1200 Sq/FT Cleaning Up My Shop

[jimreed2160]

Hershey Bar. Great idea.

Someone mentioned brass a few posts back. Our building has two of these per floor, 5 story building. Wonder if I could remove them without getting wet?

Uh-oh. Looks like AndyVision is contagious. Just like Andy, now you see aluminum and brass not as objects but as STBM (stuff to be melted).

 

[1/2 Cup]

Uh-oh. Looks like AndyVision is contagious. Just like Andy, now you see aluminum and brass not as objects but as STBM (stuff to be melted).

That's gold

 

[Craptain]

That's gold[emoji38]_hitti

No. Just brass and aluminum. LOL.

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[sawduststeve]

No. Just brass and aluminum. LOL.

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Beat me to it ^^^

 

[shortykorte]

Gold hammers? Ok I’ll take one. The scrap aluminum for trade is in the mail.


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[oldironfarmer]

I look away for a day and you guys have a party.

Thanks! I love visitors.

Funny how animals so completely rule our hearts and minds.

I wonder what Hershey will make of the sudden influx of people when you have the inspection from the Motherland.

Hershey is funny. She likes most people but I'll warn you, big guys and men with beards sometimes brings on barking and aggression. She warms up, but it takes her a bit. And you guys don't talk right. It will be funny to see what she does.

Hershey getting a drink from the stock tank

Hi Andy, I just caught up after not reading for a long time and I'm very glad Hershey's little adventure turned out okay. Have you considered asking your vet to insert a chip? That'd increase the odds of her being returned if she was ever picked up, even without a collar.

Love the gears and fence - I'll bet there'll be some brass gears happening soon!

I had not thought of a chip. My vet checked her for a chip when I first took her in. I need to do that, thanks!

Tattoo in her ear would help too. But she most likely got lost chasing a deer or rabbitt.

On another note.

I was at a lock Smith today and they had a pile of keys and a bucket of key shavings. She said they were not pure brass though.

She said they toss it all out.

Glen

I'll talk to the vet about a tattoo. Maybe she's like one of a rabbit.

I noticed a bucket under the key machine in our lumber yard but didn't ask. I'm shy. I guess if you can ask I can.

Hi Andy,

Glad to hear the pup returned!

I sent you a PM reply from my iPad Sunday night, and checked for responses yesterday while I was waiting to be called for jury selection and was never selected. I suspect you may not have received the response because the message does not appear in my Sent Items in the forum. I don't like the iPad app. I'm hoping this post on your forum works, but it doesn't look like the messaging is working from my computer either (using Chrome).

Amber/yellow light may indicate you have a power supply issue with the Dell. Can you send me your service tag (try PM)? The data should be recoverable from your hard drive using an external USB to hard drive adapter (I believe I also have a spare one of those) but I'm hoping you've been backing up your important stuff.

Let me know where you're at (not Terlton).

Eugene

I've been negligent. I did get your two PM's but to respond i need to get information off the computer and haven't had a chance, really. It is a Gateway, not a Dell. And I believe it is Windows 95. My grandson was here working on his truck that has been in my yard for about a year. How time flies.

He and his dad could not get the brakes to work (after sudden failure while driving). We removed the front/rear differential sensor unit (I guess my son has never fabricated brake lines) and after they would not bleed determined the master cylinder was taking on air. So he got a new one under warranty (they had replaced it) and we got it on and the brakes working again. He can TIG weld but not acetylene so I showed him how to weld up the crack in his exhaust system. He was surprised I didn't clean it first. But got a good weld. He buys and sells trucks and does well. The Ford is what we were working on, the Dodge Cummins is just a temporary passing through he drove two hours to get here.

He has learned how to make money trading cars. The reverse of how I do it.

My pets are cooler than me. I don't have any tattoos.

Even my cows are cooler than me. None of them have tape on their glasses.

Hershey Bar. Great idea.

Someone mentioned brass a few posts back. Our building has two of these per floor, 5 story building. Wonder if I could remove them without getting wet?



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If you think you can, or think you can't, you're probably right. Use the power of positive thinking and just take it off. If you get wet go take a few more off. I'll pay postage...

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Chips time in the glass shop was not a success, to be honest.

Andy, really glad Hershey’s come home, but very impressed with the way you crowbarred Hershey Bar into your post. 10/10 for effort.

Regards
Steve

So how did this happen? Obviously you swung it too hard. But at least he is trying.

Thank you Everyone should enjoy a Hershey Bar now and again.

OK Andy. You need to start putting warnings on your hammers relating to glass and incompatibility.

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What kind of warning? I came up with several but I'm afraid the sensitive might be offended. For instance:

Go ahead and hit glass with this hammer, it cracks me up.

Mr. Andy,

Figured I'd say something this time. I have visited your thread just about everyday for the last few months and today I was kinda thirsty so i grabbed a coke, thank you. I left the can so you can recycle it and then I can see what you do with it. I am amazed at what you do and how you do it. Thanks for the on going education.
Lynn

Thanks for the visit! I hope you use done i=of my dimes so I don't lose count!!

Andy's School of How Not to Do a Variety of Things, and Hammers for People Who Live in Glass Houses (ASHNDVTHPWLGH for short)

Uh-oh. Looks like AndyVision is contagious. Just like Andy, now you see aluminum and brass not as objects but as STBM (stuff to be melted).

That's not funny, stick to woodworking.

On a different subject, my grandson and I saw a semi trailer, all aluminum, and I commented "Wow! I'd love one of those, We'd cut the beams off then start sawing it up". He was amused.

That's gold

What did he say?

No. Just brass and aluminum. LOL.

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But, copper and aluminum is gold colored, aluminum bronze.

Beat me to it ^^^

Gold hammers? Ok I’ll take one. The scrap aluminum for trade is in the mail.

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I'll PM you my address. Copper wire would ship economically in "if it fits it ships", and I can make you an aluminum bronze hammer. But they are tough and hard. Like my pasta.

Thanks for the visits, guys. I'm pretty much preoccupied with my nursing duties, so I'll post when I can.

 

[BUGTHUG]

I have a real gear you can make for my roller, its missing one gear. Lucky enough I have the other side so it should be easy er with something to duplicate. Maybe when Rian and his friend come here, we could all invade your privacy for awhile I'll try and gather up some scrap metals for you, to feed your addiction.
Glad Hershey made it back. When you mentioned about dogs chasing cattle, it reminded me about two dogs I had when I lived in another small town. I lived about 1 1/2 miles from town out in farm and cattle country. I had 2 basset hounds that were mates and about 2 years old. They were outside dogs and always home when I got home from work, never had any idea of anything different. One day a neighbor farmer stopped by and said "do you own some bassets" I said yes, and he said that my dogs were chasing his cattle. I said that I never seen them leave my property. He said well they been showing up at out back door, and we don't want them around.
Now these dogs were friendly to everyone and thing and laid down to be petted. About a week later my dogs were out by their dog houses and just gasping for air. A couple of hours later they were both dead. The next day the old farmer drives by then stops and says I put some anti freeze out by our back door, so you better watch your dogs. I said well you won't have to worry about them cause they are both dead. Now if I wasn't a good Christian believing person, I'm afraid this would have a different outcome. But in Kansas they have farmer laws about dogs and cattle, not good for the dogs.
I just had a hard time visualizing my bassets running down cattle, with the 5 inch long legs, overweight and basic lazy dogs.
It still saddens me and sometimes I wish I would of done things different.

 

[sawduststeve]

Herb, that’s so terribly sad. I understand the farmer/ dog thing,even as a bit of a townie, sheep worriers mostly get shot in the act here. But to deliberately poison a neighbours
dogs, that’s just outright vicious. May his god forgive him because I couldn’t. I feel for you buddy that must have awful.


Andy, sorry if a bit off topic, normal service to be resumed shortly.

 

[drivesitfar]

Andy: prayers sent for you and your bride first of all cause I know she's having a tough time. maybe having Hershey back home and knowing that Cali will be there to join you guys soon has put a smile back on her face.

I agree letting the animals have some freedom is the way to go. even though we've lived here for over 30 years and we're only a few blocks from a very busy street and downtown we've haven't had one pet get run over or go missing in years. (knock on wood).

our current cat was 4.5 years old when we got here and she came chipped which might be a good thing cause we've had her for 2 or maybe 3 years now and she tore off her collar with tags the first week she was here. she comes in every night about 11pm in the summer and i've seen her at times a couple blocks away hunting whatever moves.

anyway i'm for putting a chip on your dogs if your vet has the ability to just in case they run off and get stuck or lose their way home so you might be able to find them instead of waiting or not knowing if they are ok.

looks like you might be trying to melt anything so really wish you were closer cause i'm sure i've got a ton or so of stuff you could melt so i wouldn't have to move it again. it's not all aluminum, but sounds like you are set up to melt almost anything.

I like all the modern technology you are working with and then you say you are running WINDOWS 95 (actually Windows 10 is Windows 95 with a million fixes cause they still don't have it running 100%).

hope your Saturday was a lot less smokey than mine is cause our CANADIAN neighbors are on fire and the air around here is like big cities in the old days or maybe China today.

cheers

 

[oldironfarmer]

I have a real gear you can make for my roller, its missing one gear. Lucky enough I have the other side so it should be easy er with something to duplicate. Maybe when Rian and his friend come here, we could all invade your privacy for awhile I'll try and gather up some scrap metals for you, to feed your addiction.
Glad Hershey made it back. When you mentioned about dogs chasing cattle, it reminded me about two dogs I had when I lived in another small town. I lived about 1 1/2 miles from town out in farm and cattle country. I had 2 basset hounds that were mates and about 2 years old. They were outside dogs and always home when I got home from work, never had any idea of anything different. One day a neighbor farmer stopped by and said "do you own some bassets" I said yes, and he said that my dogs were chasing his cattle. I said that I never seen them leave my property. He said well they been showing up at out back door, and we don't want them around.
Now these dogs were friendly to everyone and thing and laid down to be petted. About a week later my dogs were out by their dog houses and just gasping for air. A couple of hours later they were both dead. The next day the old farmer drives by then stops and says I put some anti freeze out by our back door, so you better watch your dogs. I said well you won't have to worry about them cause they are both dead. Now if I wasn't a good Christian believing person, I'm afraid this would have a different outcome. But in Kansas they have farmer laws about dogs and cattle, not good for the dogs.
I just had a hard time visualizing my bassets running down cattle, with the 5 inch long legs, overweight and basic lazy dogs.
It still saddens me and sometimes I wish I would of done things different.

If the gear looks like it will interchange mail it to me. You had mentioned it before and I thought I offered but maybe not directly enough.

Tough story on the Bassetts. That was just cruel of him. However if a dog barks at a cow and it flees most dogs will give chase, if only for a short way. Fortunately my cows turn on Hershey and chase her out. I don't know what makes them go one way or the other.

The guy could have handled it a lot better. One or two small dogs are not going to do anything other than irritate the cows and maybe get kicked. A pack of four or five larger ones have to be dealt with but poison is terrible. It is pretty much illegal to shoot them anymore.

Herb, that’s so terribly sad. I understand the farmer/ dog thing,even as a bit of a townie, sheep worriers mostly get shot in the act here. But to deliberately poison a neighbours
dogs, that’s just outright vicious. May his god forgive him because I couldn’t. I feel for you buddy that must have awful.

Andy, sorry if a bit off topic, normal service to be resumed shortly.

Not off topic, this is the farm-dog-gun thread after all.

Andy: prayers sent for you and your bride first of all cause I know she's having a tough time. maybe having Hershey back home and knowing that Cali will be there to join you guys soon has put a smile back on her face.

Thank you for the prayers!

No matter what she always has a good attitude. We had company today and she was struggling to walk with her walker so I told them I thought I could take her, push her down and steal her walker. She laughed. They were aghast.

I agree letting the animals have some freedom is the way to go. even though we've lived here for over 30 years and we're only a few blocks from a very busy street and downtown we've haven't had one pet get run over or go missing in years. (knock on wood).

our current cat was 4.5 years old when we got here and she came chipped which might be a good thing cause we've had her for 2 or maybe 3 years now and she tore off her collar with tags the first week she was here. she comes in every night about 11pm in the summer and i've seen her at times a couple blocks away hunting whatever moves.

anyway i'm for putting a chip on your dogs if your vet has the ability to just in case they run off and get stuck or lose their way home so you might be able to find them instead of waiting or not knowing if they are ok.

looks like you might be trying to melt anything so really wish you were closer cause i'm sure i've got a ton or so of stuff you could melt so i wouldn't have to move it again. it's not all aluminum, but sounds like you are set up to melt almost anything.

I like all the modern technology you are working with and then you say you are running WINDOWS 95 (actually Windows 10 is Windows 95 with a million fixes cause they still don't have it running 100%).

hope your Saturday was a lot less smokey than mine is cause our CANADIAN neighbors are on fire and the air around here is like big cities in the old days or maybe China today.

cheers

I like STBM. And I'm a bit of a *****, not very selective.

I read where Seattle is worse than Peking or Beige Ging or whatever lately. That's quite an achievement and it behooves the elderly to stay inside. That would be you. (several years ago I was reading the paper and the Ask the Pharmacist column headlined "Elderly Man ***" so I read it. The patient was 63. I choked. So would Abbie Hoffman.

On brighter subjects, I fired my used motor oil powered foundry furnace today. Made four melts which brought me up to 201 heats on this new furnace. It is holding up well.

That's a new crucible getting dryout on the warming tray.

The oil burns hot and clean, there is an ash buildup in the firebox. The flame swirls a full 360 degrees before it starts to come up. (the burner points down about 10 degrees).

I made up some aluminum bronze, just a 90% copper 10% aluminum alloy. Put the constituents in the crucible and heated it up. I finally got it hot and liquid. Really hot. When I put my steel scraper in it to clean slag the scraper melted. Uh-oh That made lots of slag so I dipped it out with a SS spoon and poured. Not enough Al-Br. Looks OK from the bottom

Not quite as good from the top.

I cut the runner off so it would go back in the crucible and I see no porosity.

Now I'm concerned the Al-Br will not flow like aluminum. So I added a riser (standpipe) to help feed the hammer as it cooled. That's the second opening below.

When I poured I could see the level rocking back and forth between the first and second holes. That's good, it's still liquid.

Sweet success!

Look it up, aluminum bronze is good stuff for strength and corrosion resistance, including seawater and does not tarnish much.

Thanks for looking in! More melting tomorrow!!

 

[Bob Heine]

Andy, just seeing the pictures of molten metal is therapeutic. I was obsessed with fire and melting stuff as a kid. Now I find out I exhibit one of the three traits of a serial killer. Does killing flounder and missing the urinal count toward the other two traits?
Oh yeah, congratulations on the aluminum bronze!

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy, just seeing the pictures of molten metal is therapeutic. I was obsessed with fire and melting stuff as a kid. Now I find out I exhibit one of the three traits of a serial killer. Does killing flounder and missing the urinal count toward the other two traits?
Oh yeah, congratulations on the aluminum bronze!

Pouring molten metal is very therapeutic, let me tell you.

You can melt metal in your back yard, right outside your wood shop. It doesn't take much stuff. And think of the things you can make.

So being obsessed with fire is one of the traits of a serial killer? Well that eliminated six guys in Oklahoma. Wimps.

I don't know about floundering and peeing on your foot. But if you like the Harlem Globetrotters (almost put two a's in Haarlem like it's supposed to be) you should go with me to tryouts. I'm thinking I can make the team, I'm getting pretty good at dribbling. If we both made the team I know we would get some laughs.

My wife is sure I'm a cereal killer.

Thanks you, will you be ordering an aluminum bronze hammer? I'm thinking about making some brass punches. They are so expensive and would be easy to make.

 

[jimreed2160]

That al-bronze is amazing. You are certainly the master-caster.

 

[jbmatth]

The Al-Bronze looks really nice and would be very pretty polished...now my mind is swimming with ideas, most are drowning but some are swimming.

JB

 

[bolensboneyard]

At the risk of being misunderstood; now I'm impressed! Would work great on removing the bad sending unit lock ring from the Mustang. It might even keep me from blowing myself up!!!!! Nice job Andy! Brings back memories of my submarine days aluminum/bronze...…….

 

[rrcountry]

Stupid question... to get the 90% - 10% do you just weigh the metals before melting to those proportions? Like coolaid, do you have to stir/mix them after or during melting?

- Goofy EE speaking.

Ryan

 

[1/2 Cup]

Andy your Al/Bronze is just awesome, given a few more melts I am sure you will perfect the technique.

 

[drivesitfar]

Andy: sounds like you figured out the fix for pouring the new Alum/Bronze material and it looks pretty nice on that cut so best of luck with the future pours.

tomorrow is SATURDAY in case you didn't know so hope you enjoy it as much as i'm going to enjoy mine.

cheers (yep i'm still drinking ice tea and saving the cokes for your new and old visitors)

 

[cjs1958]

Andy: I did a search here for "car lifts" a couple months ago and your thread popped up. I started reading it in my spare time and couldn't stop. Kind of like not looking away from a train wreck?? Anyway a couple months went by, I've got my hoist in and I've learned a lot from your thread. You casting has been a great adventure.The bronze-aluminum hammers look real good. I was real interested in the Studebaker repair. Is it still around? Wasn't there a prom deadline? I'll stick around to see what you come up with next. I wish you were closer, I could use a broom because I need to clean and organize my shop. I am going to grab a coke on the way out. I hope all is well with you.

 

[sawduststeve]

 

[oldironfarmer]

That al-bronze is amazing. You are certainly the master-caster.

Thank you sir! But I really am a novice. I am learning though, and slowly getting there. I'm a firm believer in practice, and I just passed 200 melts on my new furnace. That's becoming more second nature and I am learning what to look for in the crucible. But still a long way to go.

I have a friend who is both a violin repairman and an expert fly tier. He is a fanatic fly fisherman. I call him a Master Baiter.

I'd rather melt metal.

The Al-Bronze looks really nice and would be very pretty polished...now my mind is swimming with ideas, most are drowning but some are swimming.

JB

The Al-Br has been easy so far. Since it is 90% Cu it uses up stock quickly. I haven't tested it's strength yet, but the porta band does not zip through it.

At the risk of being misunderstood; now I'm impressed! Would work great on removing the bad sending unit lock ring from the Mustang. It might even keep me from blowing myself up!!!!! Nice job Andy! Brings back memories of my submarine days aluminum/bronze...…….

I misunderstood, would you say that again?

Are you saying you'd like an aluminum hammer? Some people swear at them.

Or aluminum bronze? It is pretty, I guess I'd better get cracking. Right now I've got several trivets to get finished and can't seem to find the time. It's my fault.

Stupid question... to get the 90% - 10% do you just weigh the metals before melting to those proportions? Like coolaid, do you have to stir/mix them after or during melting?

- Goofy EE speaking.

Ryan

Yes, it's by weight. And I only worry about getting close. 88-12 is ok. I tried to stir the first melt and lost the end off my steel stirrer. Really didn't think it was that hot. That means I can melt cast iron.

I think it may pretty much mix on it's own, the hot metals are quite miscible.

You don't need to repeat yourself, EE is enough description.

Andy your Al/Bronze is just awesome, given a few more melts I am sure you will perfect the technique.

Thanks, Steve! More are on the way. I need to try it without the riser. On some things you have to fail to know the requirements.

Andy: sounds like you figured out the fix for pouring the new Alum/Bronze material and it looks pretty nice on that cut so best of luck with the future pours.

tomorrow is SATURDAY in case you didn't know so hope you enjoy it as much as i'm going to enjoy mine.

cheers (yep i'm still drinking ice tea and saving the cokes for your new and old visitors)

Thanks Drives!! I had a great Saturday. My brother-in-law showed up and we had a nice visit.

Andy: I did a search here for "car lifts" a couple months ago and your thread popped up. I started reading it in my spare time and couldn't stop. Kind of like not looking away from a train wreck?? Anyway a couple months went by, I've got my hoist in and I've learned a lot from your thread. You casting has been a great adventure.The bronze-aluminum hammers look real good. I was real interested in the Studebaker repair. Is it still around? Wasn't there a prom deadline? I'll stick around to see what you come up with next. I wish you were closer, I could use a broom because I need to clean and organize my shop. I am going to grab a coke on the way out. I hope all is well with you.

Funny story, I found Garage Journal searching for old Rotary Lifts because I was looking for repair parts for mine. I landed at BB767's place and have never left.

Ha! My thread is kind of like a train wreck. Good analogy.

Thanks on the hammers! The Studekota is taking up prime space patiently waiting until I get back to it. I missed her 16th birthday and work slowed when they bought her a car

The Post Office would pack a broom up to you.

 

[Grizz1963]

Well, if you read my signature, the answer is apparent (Usually)

However, even I can see the fault Andy, and I know didley squat about computers, trust me.

I think you are missing the power lead

Love the Race car too, despite it taking time from melting and making stuff


Anyway, back to more serious stuff.....l

That Eagle looks absolutely awesome from here.

I can just imagine that cast in AlluBronze.


Off to Bootfairs in 5 minutes, wish me luck finding some useful useless stuff

 

[Bob Heine]

Great post Andy! Maybe we can get Ryan to add a category: "Train Wreck Threads."

I thought I told you to send Sawduststeve's trivet to me so he wouldn't go home without stopping by.

If you haven't already, try replacing the CMOS Battery to fix the startup problem. The folks on the Interweb Dubious Information and Opinion Team (IDIOT) claim those batteries last 5- to 6-years. If they are right, your system should have balked at startup 12 years ago. If your motherboard looks like this one...

...the battery is reasonably priced -- I just ordered a CR2032 battery because the keyless entry fob for the Cadillac was acting up. I ended up buying a pack of 5 for $4.50 from Amazon. If my math is correct -- a rare occurrence -- the batteries are $0.90 a piece.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042A9UXC/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[oldironfarmer]

Well, if you read my signature, the answer is apparent (Usually)

However, even I can see the fault Andy, and I know didley squat about computers, trust me.

I think you are missing the power lead

Love the Race car too, despite it taking time from melting and making stuff


Anyway, back to more serious stuff.....l

That Eagle looks absolutely awesome from here.

I can just imagine that cast in AlluBronze.


Off to Bootfairs in 5 minutes, wish me luck finding some useful useless stuff

Why didn't I notice that? Is it supposed to have a cord? How long?

Lots of stuff has been taking time away from melting metal. But it is life.

I just figured out something. A boot fair. Has nothing to do with selling shoes. We would call it a tailgate sale, from the back of our funny Utes.

Great post Andy! Maybe we can get Ryan to add a category: "Train Wreck Threads."

I thought I told you to send Sawduststeve's trivet to me so he wouldn't go home without stopping by.

If you haven't already, try replacing the CMOS Battery to fix the startup problem. The folks on the Interweb Dubious Information and Opinion Team (IDIOT) claim those batteries last 5- to 6-years. If they are right, your system should have balked at startup 12 years ago. If your motherboard looks like this one...

...the battery is reasonably priced -- I just ordered a CR2032 battery because the keyless entry fob for the Cadillac was acting up. I ended up buying a pack of 5 for $4.50 from Amazon. If my math is correct -- a rare occurrence -- the batteries are $0.90 a piece.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042A9UXC/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Somehow "Train Wreck" does not come across as flattering. But I just know it has to be a compliment. Thank you.

Are you offering computer advice? You got any experience there?

I just seriously doubt it, you're too old to know about that geeky stuff.

But just to humor you'll I'll replace the battery.

More money down the drain.

Anything to keep Bob off my back.

Thanks for the visits, guys.

 

[drivesitfar]

Andy: if you need another power cord for your old computer i think i have a box of them because they make great replacement cords for old power tools.

your thread just lost its PG rating with the fishing story, but since you worked so hard to get there most of the kids wouldn't have read that much to get to the punch line so you are still ok.

hope you are enjoying your REST DAY

Bob: yep those PHOB batteries I think were about $3 each or $5 for 2 at the local stores around here, but buying in volume you might end up with a box of batteries that go bad like i have with all the Costco Energizer AA, C, D, 9V and others that seem to gather in that box. thanks for the heads up on the cheap batteries. we just bought my dad AAAA batteries i think 6 for $4 on Amazon and locally they are about that much for one or a pair.

 

[Toothaker]

Andy, the power supply is probably toast. Gateway 2000 was notorious for using the very cheapest components. If you want to, search for a replacement ATX power supply - they run about $20 on eBay. From the factory, it had a 180 watt PS, so anything that size or bigger will work fine. ATX isn't a brand, it is a type.

The replacement PS will have more power wires than the one you pull out, so just coil them up out of the way. All the power connectors are terminated in such a way that there's no way to connect the new one wrong. Ok, saw off the ears and get a big pair of pliers you might figure out how to hook it up wrong - just don't do that!

 

[Guster]

Nice progress and the AlCu castings! That will make some nice hammers and other bits. Guess I will have to hold onto some copper scrap from now on too!

What are the symptoms when you push the on button. If there is nothing it is a dead powersupply. If the light comes on but goes off again you either have a dead powersupply or a short forcing the PSU to turn off to self-protect. I’d also try a spare powersupply first as Toothaker suggests. Changing the BIOS battery is not a bad idea either but may mean you’ve lost some bios settings and machine may not auto detect all of them – depending on the age of the BIOS of course. If it starts and beeps a lot you may have either a component failure or a loos component. Opening up, cleaning and pulling reseating adapter cards, memory cards and connectors usually solves this. A dud cooling fan or loose cooling fan connector can also stop a machine from booting. But should beep like crazy before hand. Finding the hardware manual will tell you what the number or pattern of beeps mean if it is not industry standard beeping - https://www.computerhope.com/beep.htm

Don’t worry absolute vs incremental coordinates catches me out all the time too.

Hope it is another good day for hot metal!

 

[Toothaker]

Nice progress and the AlCu castings! That will make some nice hammers and other bits. Guess I will have to hold onto some copper scrap from now on too!

What are the symptoms when you push the on button. If there is nothing it is a dead powersupply. If the light comes on but goes off again you either have a dead powersupply or a short forcing the PSU to turn off to self-protect. I’d also try a spare powersupply first as Toothaker suggests. Changing the BIOS battery is not a bad idea either but may mean you’ve lost some bios settings and machine may not auto detect all of them – depending on the age of the BIOS of course. If it starts and beeps a lot you may have either a component failure or a loos component. Opening up, cleaning and pulling reseating adapter cards, memory cards and connectors usually solves this. A dud cooling fan or loose cooling fan connector can also stop a machine from booting. But should beep like crazy before hand. Finding the hardware manual will tell you what the number or pattern of beeps mean if it is not industry standard beeping - https://www.computerhope.com/beep.htm

Don’t worry absolute vs incremental coordinates catches me out all the time too. [emoji38]_hitti

Hope it is another good day for hot metal!

Andy's Hot Metal Garage
We're open Saturday

I like it.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy: if you need another power cord for your old computer i think i have a box of them because they make great replacement cords for old power tools.

your thread just lost its PG rating with the fishing story, but since you worked so hard to get there most of the kids wouldn't have read that much to get to the punch line so you are still ok.

hope you are enjoying your REST DAY

Bob: yep those PHOB batteries I think were about $3 each or $5 for 2 at the local stores around here, but buying in volume you might end up with a box of batteries that go bad like i have with all the Costco Energizer AA, C, D, 9V and others that seem to gather in that box. thanks for the heads up on the cheap batteries. we just bought my dad AAAA batteries i think 6 for $4 on Amazon and locally they are about that much for one or a pair.

Are those power cords still available? Like everyone else I've got a dozen or so laying around. I figured they quit making them because everyone already has plenty.

Whatever do you mean about PG rating?

Andy, the power supply is probably toast. Gateway 2000 was notorious for using the very cheapest components. If you want to, search for a replacement ATX power supply - they run about $20 on eBay. From the factory, it had a 180 watt PS, so anything that size or bigger will work fine. ATX isn't a brand, it is a type.

The replacement PS will have more power wires than the one you pull out, so just coil them up out of the way. All the power connectors are terminated in such a way that there's no way to connect the new one wrong. Ok, saw off the ears and get a big pair of pliers you might figure out how to hook it up wrong - just don't do that!

So can I check out the power supply?

I took the BIOS battery out and it read 3.0 volts like the battery says, so I figured it was OK. Or should I be concerned over amp hours.

I'll check the power supply in an older computer I have.

Nice progress and the AlCu castings! That will make some nice hammers and other bits. Guess I will have to hold onto some copper scrap from now on too!

Thanks! It will make bearings as well. I'm going to make some punches, too. Tough but softer than steel. I was surprised how much I made from a little copper. Although it's 10% Al by weight, it is significant volume of Al, more like 30%.

What are the symptoms when you push the on button. If there is nothing it is a dead power supply. If the light comes on but goes off again you either have a dead powersupply or a short forcing the PSU to turn off to self-protect. I’d also try a spare powersupply first as Toothaker suggests.

The light in the button should turn green, but it turns yellow and I don't understand why. Each floppy drive is checked but then it stops. Light stays on.

Changing the BIOS battery is not a bad idea either but may mean you’ve lost some bios settings and machine may not auto detect all of them – depending on the age of the BIOS of course. If it starts and beeps a lot you may have either a component failure or a loos component.

No beeps.

Opening up, cleaning and pulling reseating adapter cards, memory cards and connectors usually solves this. A dud cooling fan or loose cooling fan connector can also stop a machine from booting. But should beep like crazy before hand. Finding the hardware manual will tell you what the number or pattern of beeps mean if it is not industry standard beeping - https://www.computerhope.com/beep.htm

Don’t worry absolute vs incremental coordinates catches me out all the time too.

Hope it is another good day for hot metal!

The fan is running, at least the power supply fan. I guess I need to get one of Drives' power cords and try booting it again. Already removed and replaced the battery so I sang a poor rendition of "Adios BIOS". My wife was not impressed. This has been an ongoing problem for years. I'm thinking cleaning and replugging sounds good since slapping it like you slap a woman made it work a few times.

I really don't understand the difference, although I understand the words.

I did another hammer today. I reverted to the aluminum gating and it worked well, so my initial problem was just being short of liquid metal.

I needed another spoon to dip slag and finally remembered I've got lots of 16 ga 316 ss tubing (drops a friend grabbed) so I slit one

And made a spoon

This is real stainless, not the cutlery variety, so it will last. But I need to give it a sharper point, not ready for the crucible yet although I did use it.

I fugured out when I have a tool change the gcode is setting current location to 0-0-0. So last night late I manually reset the tool position.

I missed it a little and the vertical bars in the shield suffered. This morning I added gcode to relocate the tool to 0-0-0 before the M1 stop. Not elegant but it will work. The software moved the tool after cutting but not back to zero. I don't know why. My ignorance is exceeded only by my enthusiasm.

Thanks for the visits!!

 

[Toothaker]

Agree with Guster, unplug everything inside. You can even get creative and unlock the processor and reseat it, and release and re-insert the DRAM (memory). Search Youtube for instructions if you're unsure.

If you have a spare PC from the same era, yes, you can swap the power supplies around.

A gentle touch is needed, because the various clips retaining the power cords inside the PC case are plastic, and are likely getting brittle with age.

Wish I was closer. I will be in OKC this weekend, but I believe you're a fair bit off I-35.

 

[Guster]

Sounds very much like a bad powersupply or PSU.

A PSU is quick to swap out, but may then highlight a dud component which caused it to blow. If you can it would be good to check if you have a good 5V and 12V supply by checking one of the molex connectors pulled of a disk drive - https://i.stack.imgur.com/NpPzH.png Missing either 5V or 12V at this point would highlight a bad PSU

Best practice is to systematically swap out known good working components, starting with a bare minimal setup. By this I mean bare motherboard attached to PSU with CPU and memory only with case wiring for the switch and speaker attached to start it. This should start, fans spinning and perhaps beep due to missing a keyboard or more. Most machines do a beep once before POST as well. If you have onboard video you can attach a monitor and keyboard. Hopefully you’ll get a POST screen with some messages saying HDD is missing which is a good thing at this stage. After which you can systematically add hard drives and other components till you find the dud. If you don’t have onboard video, fitting the video card would be a good choice early on for onscreen diagnostics.

Keep in mind that capacitors do dry out over time and contacts corrode or pull loose with heat cycles. Simply removing and refitting something in the process of cleaning may fix it. Preference is to blow out the PC with light dusting of clean dry air rather than vacuuming out dust which can lift off jumpers and cables in the process.

Better find those cables then…

Wish I was closer too.

 

[drivesitfar]

Andy: i'm sure you've got plenty of power supply cords in your stockpile somewhere. or take a power cord of a power tool you are not using.

also I think the guys are on to something with the power supply crapping out since your computer is probably over 20 years old and most are built to last about 3 to 4 years before we can't use them with the new programs they make.

hope you are enjoying your SATURDAY and i'm enjoying the colorful metals you are creating so keep up the great work.

cheers

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy's Hot Metal Garage
We're open Saturday

I like it.

I like it too, "We're open Saturday" is a nice touch

Agree with Guster, unplug everything inside. You can even get creative and unlock the processor and reseat it, and release and re-insert the DRAM (memory). Search Youtube for instructions if you're unsure.

If you have a spare PC from the same era, yes, you can swap the power supplies around.

A gentle touch is needed, because the various clips retaining the power cords inside the PC case are plastic, and are likely getting brittle with age.

Wish I was closer. I will be in OKC this weekend, but I believe you're a fair bit off I-35.

Wish you were closer too! Thanks for the advice.

Sounds very much like a bad powersupply or PSU.

A PSU is quick to swap out, but may then highlight a dud component which caused it to blow. If you can it would be good to check if you have a good 5V and 12V supply by checking one of the molex connectors pulled of a disk drive - https://i.stack.imgur.com/NpPzH.png Missing either 5V or 12V at this point would highlight a bad PSU

Best practice is to systematically swap out known good working components, starting with a bare minimal setup. By this I mean bare motherboard attached to PSU with CPU and memory only with case wiring for the switch and speaker attached to start it. This should start, fans spinning and perhaps beep due to missing a keyboard or more. Most machines do a beep once before POST as well. If you have onboard video you can attach a monitor and keyboard. Hopefully you’ll get a POST screen with some messages saying HDD is missing which is a good thing at this stage. After which you can systematically add hard drives and other components till you find the dud. If you don’t have onboard video, fitting the video card would be a good choice early on for onscreen diagnostics.

Keep in mind that capacitors do dry out over time and contacts corrode or pull loose with heat cycles. Simply removing and refitting something in the process of cleaning may fix it. Preference is to blow out the PC with light dusting of clean dry air rather than vacuuming out dust which can lift off jumpers and cables in the process.

Better find those cables then…

Wish I was closer too.

Thanks again!

Andy: i'm sure you've got plenty of power supply cords in your stockpile somewhere. or take a power cord of a power tool you are not using.

also I think the guys are on to something with the power supply crapping out since your computer is probably over 20 years old and most are built to last about 3 to 4 years before we can't use them with the new programs they make.

hope you are enjoying your SATURDAY and i'm enjoying the colorful metals you are creating so keep up the great work.

cheers

I know you were joking about it being unplugged! I did unplug it before opening the side case. Not like me, but I did.

At 17 years old that is the oldest computer I have been actively using. I'm not much on new programs if the old ones are adequate. I did buy a new laptop this year but am typing on one that is from 05, that's 13 years. The computer I replaced the defective one with is about 13 too, I'll check out of curiosity.

Took the day off today. Went to an auction. They aren't as much fun anymore because I just don't want more stuff. I want to make it.

But they had a car with a long hood. I'm a sucker for a long hood, Herb.

48 Chevy Coupe, all original, even 6v. The widow said her husband told her it needs the brakes fixed, fuel replaced, and a battery. I like the old 216's and the long hood. So I need more storage.

They had at least six Chevy pickups, mostly hulks, this one looked like a new engine, five window, but I stayed away. I just have too much stuff. The COE needs restored.

However I did buy two brass radiators, four alloy wheels, and some copper tubing, all to melt down.

I did miss a Pepsi box with the vertical door for $175. I must have stepped out to pick my nose or something. They got to it before I thought they would. They had two auction rings going so it's easy to miss one when you're buying at the other.

More Chevy pictures tomorrow. The boot is smashed. Or somebody gave the trunk the boot. And the paint is poor, but I haven't seen any rust, it was garage kept.

Thanks for stopping by!

 

[1/2 Cup]

Andy that's awesome.

Looking forward to the Chevy pics

 

[Grizz1963]

Morning Andy.

I know very little, but if that is a 48 Fleetline Coupe, then surely it is missing all the side chrome?

In my head the 48 ended with maximum chrome down the sides.

Of course, I have been wrong many times before.

 

[realvc]

Very cool new to you ride Andy.
Those windshield visors are pricey to purchase and really add to the looks.
Your Iron Farm is a must see point of interest in Oklahoma for all types of travelers local and international.

 

[jbmatth]

Very happy to have gotten a little sneak peak of the '48 Andy. If you don't get distracted melting down your other buys I'm sure you'll have it running in no time. Also the offer still stands I'll give it a roof to hide under until you get another garage built, I'm just that nice of a guy.

JB

 

[Ole Slewfoot]

Thanks for the lead. Those are sure cheap enough. I could do everything in the heated shop. I am pressuring the oil through the filter but it may not last long. It's not cheap at $8 so if it plugs up quickly I'll need another option. I have thought about putting a sludge drain on it if I can figure out how to install one inexpensively on each new filter can.

What are you doing with the vegetable oil?


Thanks for the visits, guys.

My buddy and I were running our trucks on it till the tallow guys realized they had to pay the restaurants instead of charging to haul it away.

 

[Bob Heine]

Morning Andy.

I know very little, but if that is a 48 Fleetline Coupe, then surely it is missing all the side chrome?

In my head the 48 ended with maximum chrome down the sides.

Of course, I have been wrong many times before.

Rian, I know even less but my father did own a Chevrolet Fleetline Aerosedan (that's me standing after a stormy night -- Dad is trying to warm up and dry out on the cot). Note the white wheel trim rings -- cheaper than whitewall tires but just as fancy looking [NOT].

Only the Fleetline models had the chrome trim on the lower quarters and only two versions, the 2-door Aerosedan and the 4-door Sportmaster. The middle-trim Chevy Fleetmaster models and the base-trim Stylemaster models were plainer. I'm pretty sure the 1947-8 lineup was the same so this brochure shows the complete lineup of cars.

http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/chevy/47chev/47chev.html

 

[drivesitfar]

Andy: congrats on finding a good home for another old classic.

so you'll need to do some body work on the back end or do you need to replace the trunk (boot)?

i'm guessing having more than a few trucks sitting around and having one on the rotisserie kept you from buying another truck or two? or are those getting spendier even in your area like they are up here?

now when you go to auctions you have another reason to go with all the stuff you can melt and sounds like you bought some items just for that reason.

have a great SATURDAY while I try to survive the smoke up here that's giving me a headache.

Bob: great picture and story as per usual!!