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I thought it was interesting you mentioned burning coal in the forge. I remember when I was a kid, a lot of people still burned coal, (and wood) for home heating. I cant even remember the last time I actually saw somebody burning coal. You could buy it at the icehouse back then, it came in a big heavy-duty brown paper sack, just like the chunks of ice. Of course most people just went there and ordered it delivered to the house, it was much cheaper by the ton. Nobody buys blocks of ice anymore either, the business doesnt exist any longer, there is something else in that building.
I still occasionally find an old chunk of coal, when I'm scratching around in the ground at my Mama's house. At some point in the past, way before my time, there was a blacksmith shop on the corner of that property.
Thanks for jogging that memory:beer:
I , for one, enjoy the pics you post of your blacksmithing work, thanks for posting them. Maybe "someday" , when everyday is Saturday, I can learn that skill too.

Nice memories. Lot's of blacksmith shops way back when. Every farmer was a blacksmith. Not everyone was an expert, lots of guys like me just had a forge to get their own stuff done.

I hope you do try, it's not hard. Mainly commons sense with a few guidelines.

Thanks for the comments.

Andy: sounds like a great day on the farm with a few visitors to watch you melt metal. or is it a day to go to a local auction or pick stuff up around your area?

whatever I wish I could be there, but i'll just have to watch and hear some fun stories and hope I can visit one day in the near future too.

enjoy your day!!

We had a great day, pictures to follow.

You know you're welcome any time, just make plans and it's easier to make it happen.

Most would make due with a piece of rebar with no modifications, not so with Mr. Andy. Heat it and beat it until it's pretty and has just that correct amount of flair. :thumbup:

I could have 5 lifts at home and I'd still end up changing oil in the driveway. It's just how it goes. It bothers me way less kicking a bucket of oil over in the driveway than in the shop so driveway oil changes are okay with me !!

Thank you. But a handle is nice. Part of what I use a poker for is to grab short stuff sticking out the top of the crucible that's about to fall over into the furnace. A little crook help pull it into the crucible.

A craftsman would not have used rebar.

I thought it was a hoot to suggest I'd have a place to change oil if I only had one more lift.

Thanks for the comments and visits, guys!
 
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Don and a cousin Verlynn stopped by today. Great guys. Don is every bit the gentleman he seems to be on his thread.

Glen (Dreamingmuscle) came early and took most of the pictures. I hardly ever remember to take pictures when I have company. Thanks, Glen!

I was feeding when he showed up. It was 1C but no wind.

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He graciously brought me a big load of aluminum on three engines, two transmissions, and several buckets of brass and copper.:thumbup:

Pretty soon Don showed up and we looked around a little. We went through the shop and Don gave me some pointers.

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I was humbled.:lol_hitti

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That's me in the plaid shirt.:bounce:

Just joking, we had a nice visit. He and I are a lot alike as well as quite different in our approach to garage contents, as is obvious.

He found a few things he wanted to haul back to California and I was eager to facilitate the removal of junk from my place.

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Wait!! IS THAT MY SKELLY SIGN????

All too soon it was time for them to leave. They have a pretty full schedule getting back to the Big Party Garage.

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A couple of really fine fellows. I'm looking forward to being able to visit the Big Party Garage and see what Don has done to some of my stuff.
 

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One of our goals today was to make a release lever and hinge bracket to activate the let down button on Glen's brother's 15,000# lift. We decided on a lost foam casting for the bracket and a forged lever. Here's the foam pattern

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I had made it Saturday and sprued it and mudded it so it would be dry. Going in to the sand bucket.

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Glen gave me the bucket on a previous trip after he saw me burn down a plastic bucket. Thanks, Glen. Then vibrate the sand.

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The casting came out good!

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Glen had one more project. He had a light cast iron bracket he wanted to copy. We decided on aluminum. I rammed it in a mold and turned it over to barely be able to see the metal.

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Sand needs to be carved away to get to the mid line of the original casting. That's called the parting line.

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Maybe you can see the sand is cut away on the drag on the right, and raised on the cope on the left. After cutting to the centerline, you put parting compound on the sand and pattern and ram the other half, so the drag is depressed and the cope stands proud.

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Casting came out ok. A little rough, I think I had it too hot, but he said it will work.

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I added the riser (lower left) off the end of the pour to flush out debris and make sure the small sections were filled.

Thanks for looking in!!
 

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Nice bracket. Wish I could have been there to meet Don and the guys. I just put up two shelf brackets for Ginny to use for her plants. You can see them in the windows on the porch. Ornate old brackets would be the things I would cast if I were to venture into it. They really add to the feel of a shop or home.
 
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At least he didn't take any Farmalls with him.

Whew!! That was a close one, if he'd wanted a Farmall we might have had trouble.

ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT DAY ANDY AND GANG.

I can just sense you had a great one.

This forum and its members certainly rock.

:thumbup::thumbup: It was great!

Nice bracket. Wish I could have been there to meet Don and the guys. I just put up two shelf brackets for Ginny to use for her plants. You can see them in the windows on the porch. Ornate old brackets would be the things I would cast if I were to venture into it. They really add to the feel of a shop or home.

I am eager to try more iron casting.
 
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This will be a real shocker.

No foundry talk today.:wtf:

Had a guy stop by the house on Monday. Wanted to sell me his dad's tractor. I told him I had plenty. Said they sold dad's place and need to get the tractor moved. They wanted $500. I suggested where to place ads, but if they had no luck I'd give him $200. Said it had one bad rear tire and they couldn't get it started.

So yesterday he called and asked whether I could come get it this morning.

I guess. I know they didn't try to sell it.

I was ready for a pile of junk.

Bob and my son in law went to pick it up. Bob pulled it onto the trailer.

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Allis Chalmers B. Left rear tire needs a tube, and is cracked from sitting flat but it will work for me. Nice finish mower.

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This is just like the restored one I have, except this one is newer, has a mechanical lift and electric start.

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It has shutters, usually on dual fuel engines, but rare since most were taken off when they rusted up. These work good.

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Even a nice decal with shutter operating instructions. This may be factory paint on the tractor.

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Dang! Now I need to keep it inside. :headscrat

Well I didn't need it. I already had north of 50 tractors, but it will fit in and nobody will notice. I hope. They had cross threaded the sediment bowl trying to clean it and I could not repair the threads (I spent an hour on them and got them close) so it will get a new one.

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Good fortune comes to good people. That tractor knew where it would be appreciated.

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Pretty good buy regardless; it must be nice to have them come to you (with reasonable prices).

The tire should be OK, my C sat since ~9/11 til about a year ago on a flat, it survived with a good tube. I did fill in the bigger cracks with some window set urethane (a little experiment if you will).
 

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Hey Andy, great score with the "new" tractor. [emoji106]

Maybe it's time for another building - you could make a big "tractor-port" (no walls - just a roof) and bring them all in. [emoji4]


I'm going to have to catch up on Don's thread now to see what he scored on his trip to Oklahoma. [emoji1]


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Andy I agree with Craptain. I would be happy with the mower as the one on my cub is falling apart. Don't see them around here used though.
 

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Looks like a great time with some now good friends Andy. The new tractor looks like a real keeper and with a finish mower to boot, well done. P.S. I may know a buyer (not me) if you decide you don't want it hanging around.

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Andy: it looks like you had a great day with the visitors from out west along with one of the locals. looks like some of your quality stuff is going to find it's home in the Party Garage soon.

I love the cool stuff you can make with your casting so keep up the great work.

of course you didn't NEED ANOTHER TRACTOR, but it's been a while since you probably bought one and especially at that price you can't get hurt too bad. I agree it might be time to build something to keep the rain and snow off your 60+ tractors and sort of a museum.

or is it time to do some trading and get these old tractors off to farmers that can fix them up and use them?

your call and i'm sure it doesn't keep you up at night.

good to see you are still having fun while i'm diggin in the dirt here.

cheers
 

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Looks like another fun day at Andy's. :thumbup:

Nice tractor. Makes me want book a working holiday to Oklahoma for a barn raising. A tractor barn that is! Help get some of those machines out of the weather and running again and of course help recast some of the others to fix them. Andy's Handy Andy tools and tractor barn! :beer:

Must be big incentives for oil changes now that you are playing with cast iron.
 

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Andy, total honesty, I have not read and resent post. I just got back on the GJ and just wanted to say hi. I hope all is well.
 
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Good fortune comes to good people. That tractor knew where it would be appreciated.

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Nice words, but I got lucky, or not. I spent today working on it.

Thank you.

Pretty good buy regardless; it must be nice to have them come to you (with reasonable prices).

The tire should be OK, my C sat since ~9/11 til about a year ago on a flat, it survived with a good tube. I did fill in the bigger cracks with some window set urethane (a little experiment if you will).

When they drive in the gate trying to sell a tractor they've lost a lot of bargaining power. But I really didn't want this one. They could have advertised it and sold it so I shouldn't feel sorry for them, but I do. I told them what to do, but this was easier.

Hey Andy, great score with the "new" tractor. [emoji106]

Maybe it's time for another building - you could make a big "tractor-port" (no walls - just a roof) and bring them all in. [emoji4]


I'm going to have to catch up on Don's thread now to see what he scored on his trip to Oklahoma. [emoji1]


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Thanks! I guess I need to start collecting Allis Chalmers tractors. They did have superior engineering at the time. Made excellent large electrical motors too.

Simple really.

If only more people realise that.

Good score Andy. Despite not needing it.

After I saw it I liked it a lot better. It is in excellent shape.

Andy I agree with Craptain. I would be happy with the mower as the one on my cub is falling apart. Don't see them around here used though.

Come get the mower! I have a couple of Cub belly mowers too.

Looks like a great time with some now good friends Andy. The new tractor looks like a real keeper and with a finish mower to boot, well done. P.S. I may know a buyer (not me) if you decide you don't want it hanging around.

JB

Don is a real gentleman. I can't imagine anyone not liking him.

I've had several offers on the B Allis. I'm not much on selling stuff. Sell is a four letter word, you know.

Andy: it looks like you had a great day with the visitors from out west along with one of the locals. looks like some of your quality stuff is going to find it's home in the Party Garage soon.

I love the cool stuff you can make with your casting so keep up the great work.

of course you didn't NEED ANOTHER TRACTOR, but it's been a while since you probably bought one and especially at that price you can't get hurt too bad. I agree it might be time to build something to keep the rain and snow off your 60+ tractors and sort of a museum.

or is it time to do some trading and get these old tractors off to farmers that can fix them up and use them?

your call and i'm sure it doesn't keep you up at night.

good to see you are still having fun while i'm diggin in the dirt here.

cheers

We did have a great day! I look forward to seeing what Don does to stuff I was never going to touch.

Foundry work will continue for certain. I may have an opportunity to do some casting for some old tractors other than mine.

The little Allis will feel at home here. They do deteriorate sitting outside but they won't get a shed. I have thought about thinning the herd and may have found a way. Met a guy today who is interested in restoring them and will take payment in tractors.:bounce: We'll see if it works out.

Farmers would not use any of these, too small and too old.

Noe of my stuff keeps me up at night.:lol_hitti Except sometimes the dogs.

Christ.....I love that tractor.

They're not expensive, and plentiful. Glad you like it.:thumbup:

Looks like another fun day at Andy's. :thumbup:

Nice tractor. Makes me want book a working holiday to Oklahoma for a barn raising. A tractor barn that is! Help get some of those machines out of the weather and running again and of course help recast some of the others to fix them. Andy's Handy Andy tools and tractor barn! :beer:

Must be big incentives for oil changes now that you are playing with cast iron.

We did have fun. Don't have any barns to raise. But you would be most welcome to spend a holiday here. That would be a great time :bounce: :bounce:

Andy, total honesty, I have not read and resent post. I just got back on the GJ and just wanted to say hi. I hope all is well.

Now you're being honest?:lol_hitti Great to see you posting again. I've been thinking about you. Get your garage finished?
 
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Andy, the latest fad in vintage tractors is keeping them as original as possible. Your new one is just right for that crowd. wax on, wax off and take it to a show. Time for a new sign at the road,

Andy's Foundry and Tractor Museum
 

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I'm not sure I agree about superior allis engineering -- I don't think they came up with near the scale of groundbreaking inventions (reaper, PTO, live hydraulics (?), early diesel innovation (not direct start), packaged letter series) IHC did.
 
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Took the flat off today. Rim is cracked.

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Tire was tough to get off. I broke my slide hammer. That weld broke in compression.:lol_hitti

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I made a video of using the slide hammer but can't find Window Movie Maker I use on my other computer to edit videos for YouTube. This Windows 10 computer has an editor I can't figure out, I'm tired of wasting time with it. Oh well. My phone quit communicating with my other computer, it says the phone creates a power surge on the USB port.

So much for Windows 10. I really thought Windows 10 would be set up to create videos for YouTube. Any ideas on how to create YouTube videos from an iPhone through Windows 10?

I really don't like Windows 10 anyway. Arrows and other commands are hidden until you hover over them. Why? What value is that? PDF print commands stay hidden until you click for them.

The rim was really rusty, and the cracks are because of thin metal. Probably a foot of cracks. The tube was very securely stuck to the rim. My experience when they're this bad they will keep finding new places to leak even after all the rust is cleaned off the tube.

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I made this tool to get under the bottom bead when taking a tire off by hand.

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It works pretty well, slide it through the tire and grab the bottom bead then lift it. I can't get a straight tool to get the second bead.

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You can see it has the second bead up with light showing through.

This tire didn't want to come off, it's only 24". Bigger tractor tires are easier. I had to flip it over and work from the back. Same tool gets in and does the job.

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The tire came right out then.

The wheel was loose on the axle so I took the retaining nut off to inspect it. Nut was hard to move so I resorted to an old 36" pipe wrench. It came off.

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Spline looked good so the nut went back on, and snug. Very snug :lol_hitti

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Andy, the latest fad in vintage tractors is keeping them as original as possible. Your new one is just right for that crowd. wax on, wax off and take it to a show. Time for a new sign at the road,

Andy's Foundry and Tractor Museum

Yeah, I don't go in much for fads. However I like tractors original, and have some which are painted like new, but for the most part I like them like they are, old and hard working.

A tractor museum might mean lots of visitors. I don't have time for that, just people who are really interested. The general public has to be entertained and don't care about the details.

I'm not sure I agree about superior allis engineering -- I don't think they came up with near the scale of groundbreaking inventions (reaper, PTO, live hydraulics (?), early diesel innovation (not direct start), packaged letter series) IHC did.

IH is my favorite. But Allis had excellent engineering. That's different than innovations. I had a little Allis baler before my fire. Actually, it's still sitting here it burned. Excellent trouble free baler. IH had lots of innovations, starting with the Farmall. Then the B Allis gave them a run for their money for the small farmer and caused the A and B Farmalls to be designed. The B Allis was a styled tractor in 1937, IH took until 39 to get sheetmetal on theirs.

My opinion is the engineers had more freedom at Allis, and the sales team more freedom at IH. It sunk both of them eventually.

But all tractors from the thirties and forties were well designed. The race to more convenience (hydraulics) in the fifties and sixties left good design behind so we have tractors from that era which do not last as well as the earlier ones. Power shifts which don't. Then in the seventies and eighties the mega horsepower race took off but those tractors are still better than the later electronic wonders which only last as long as the electrical components.

My opinion of tractor history in a nut shell.:lol_hitti
 

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Andy, can you edit and post videos direct from your iPhone to Youtube, or direct to this site through the GJ app or its parent Tapatalk app?

Taking links out of the communications chain can also take away many of the frustrations..

Your ‘new’ little tractor would be difficult to pick up in this part of the world for 10x that amount . As others have said - good things happen for good people!
 

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Is that a common mower on your new tractor? The pto drive shaft to pulley and belt drive is what caught my attention.
Nice looking rig.

Vince
 

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Nice words, but I got lucky, or not. I spent today working on it.

Thank you.



When they drive in the gate trying to sell a tractor they've lost a lot of bargaining power. But I really didn't want this one. They could have advertised it and sold it so I shouldn't feel sorry for them, but I do. I told them what to do, but this was easier.



Thanks! I guess I need to start collecting Allis Chalmers tractors. They did have superior engineering at the time. Made excellent large electrical motors too.



After I saw it I liked it a lot better. It is in excellent shape.



Come get the mower! I have a couple of Cub belly mowers too.



Don is a real gentleman. I can't imagine anyone not liking him.

I've had several offers on the B Allis. I'm not much on selling stuff. Sell is a four letter word, you know.



We did have a great day! I look forward to seeing what Don does to stuff I was never going to touch.

Foundry work will continue for certain. I may have an opportunity to do some casting for some old tractors other than mine.

The little Allis will feel at home here. They do deteriorate sitting outside but they won't get a shed. I have thought about thinning the herd and may have found a way. Met a guy today who is interested in restoring them and will take payment in tractors.:bounce: We'll see if it works out.

Farmers would not use any of these, too small and too old.

Noe of my stuff keeps me up at night.:lol_hitti Except sometimes the dogs.



They're not expensive, and plentiful. Glad you like it.:thumbup:



We did have fun. Don't have any barns to raise. But you would be most welcome to spend a holiday here. That would be a great time :bounce: :bounce:



Now you're being honest?:lol_hitti Great to see you posting again. I've been thinking about you. Get your garage finished?

I will plan a trip. I am going to see Sarah in a few weeks to assure myself of her condition. Usually the trip north is in the summer or fall. We will plan an actual vacation this year and if all goes well the target will be OK and your place then up to Nebraska to see Ginny's sister. (It's a secret) thanks Bobby
 

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Andy: I bet your short history on tractors could be said about cars and maybe trucks too. simpler and better built does have its advantages that is for certain.

nice tire lesson and just curious where you trying to save the tire cause you already said the rim was bad or are you going to try and repair the rim. just keeping your handle as HANDY ANDY cause you can fix almost anything.

did you ever finish all those shelving units for the pharmacy or did she give you plenty of time especially since you repaired her door?

tomorrow is Saturday, but I know you'll do things today that you'd normally wait til tomorrow to do cause you can.

enjoy your day sir!!
 

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But all tractors from the thirties and forties were well designed. The race to more convenience (hydraulics) in the fifties and sixties left good design behind so we have tractors from that era which do not last as well as the earlier ones. Power shifts which don't. Then in the seventies and eighties the mega horsepower race took off but those tractors are still better than the later electronic wonders which only last as long as the electrical components.

My opinion of tractor history in a nut shell.:lol_hitti

I can't argue that last part. It's sad when you cannot (literally) work on your $500,000 tractor due to not only the electrical complexity but also the proprietary software. Sometimes I wonder why we spend so much money developing this neat, sophisticated but inefficient systems for relatively simple functions we mastered 70 years ago. :confused:
 

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Is that a common mower on your new tractor? The pto drive shaft to pulley and belt drive is what caught my attention.
Nice looking rig.

Vince

It's a good way to vary speeds but also protect the tractor/mower should something get hit, imo. You see it on all the belly mowers ran off the rear pto-changed pulley.
 
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Andy, can you edit and post videos direct from your iPhone to Youtube, or direct to this site through the GJ app or its parent Tapatalk app?

Taking links out of the communications chain can also take away many of the frustrations..

Your ‘new’ little tractor would be difficult to pick up in this part of the world for 10x that amount . As others have said - good things happen for good people!

I guess I can post directly to YouTube. I had not tried that, thanks! I'm trying it now, I can't see how to edit it, but this is a simple video anyway, just me beating on a tire bead.:lol_hitti

$2,000 would be reasonable around here with the mower. If there are any takers, but a flat rear tire and not running greatly diminishes the potential.

Is that a common mower on your new tractor? The pto drive shaft to pulley and belt drive is what caught my attention.
Nice looking rig.

Vince

I've never seen one before, but it is a Bush Hog brand, and that is a good brand. It would work better with a true three point hitch, I think. I may put a rotary mower behind it and sell the mower.

I will plan a trip. I am going to see Sarah in a few weeks to assure myself of her condition. Usually the trip north is in the summer or fall. We will plan an actual vacation this year and if all goes well the target will be OK and your place then up to Nebraska to see Ginny's sister. (It's a secret) thanks Bobby

Great! Bring your truck and haul this mower back.:bounce:

We've got a room for you.:thumbup: Plan to stay a few days and we'll do some blacksmithing.

Andy: I bet your short history on tractors could be said about cars and maybe trucks too. simpler and better built does have its advantages that is for certain.

I think cars were about ten years later than tractors. Tractors had insert bearings in the 30's and GM didn't go to inserts until the early fifties. And that unnecessary air conditioning didn't really hit until the 60's. My 1940 Farmall M is a fully serviceable tractor still today, where a 48 Chevrolet is not really suitable for current highway driving. Not a real good example, but for a similar horsepower tractor the old ones are heavier and will do a lot more work.
nice tire lesson and just curious where you trying to save the tire cause you already said the rim was bad or are you going to try and repair the rim. just keeping your handle as HANDY ANDY cause you can fix almost anything.

Yes, I will reuse the tire. I could fix the rim but it would be ten hours of work or more, and would still have a lot of thin metal. I opted to buy a new one for $127 delivered. If I had another rim as junk I would cut out good parts and weld them into this rim. I do that a lot with the 38" Farmall rims. Most of mine have been repaired.
did you ever finish all those shelving units for the pharmacy or did she give you plenty of time especially since you repaired her door?

tomorrow is Saturday, but I know you'll do things today that you'd normally wait til tomorrow to do cause you can.

enjoy your day sir!!

I got distracted from the shelving units waiting for support pins to come in, I needed 120 or might have made them. They're cheap. I did restart this morning but then had to go negotiate on a house, my last. I had sold it last summer on a contract and let them begin renovation with no payments until 2019. I couldn't get in touch with them and today we agreed they had no claim to it. They did quite a bit of work but got discouraged and don't want to buy it anymore. I have a buyer waiting.

I can't argue that last part. It's sad when you cannot (literally) work on your $500,000 tractor due to not only the electrical complexity but also the proprietary software. Sometimes I wonder why we spend so much money developing this neat, sophisticated but inefficient systems for relatively simple functions we mastered 70 years ago. :confused:

I guess the GPS systems which generate an accurate production map of a field is of value so you can fertilize to minimize inputs while maximizing outputs is of value, but the trend, which is coming in cars, of only loaning you the operating software and not selling it to you is scary.

For farmers who only need horsepower there are no good options. Old tractors like the IH 1486 are bringing a premium because they are relatively simple and reliable, especially after the advent of the water filters.

Mahindra has filled an intermediate need and they might do well with a 200 hp or 300 hp tractor.

I got serious about buying a new 75 hp tractor to have a new cab with A/C two years ago and was looking at 5065 JD talking to a salesman I know. I asked him bluntly what he thought about Kubota. he said they're all OK, but with any new tractor you have to come back to the dealer when you have computer problems, or have a service truck out if you can't get it to start. Saved me $50,000.

It's a good way to vary speeds but also protect the tractor/mower should something get hit, imo. You see it on all the belly mowers ran off the rear pto-changed pulley.

Right, the belt drives avoid a gearbox and give you a slippage point at the cost of replacing belts occasionally. I like that.:bounce:

Man, sweet score on that AC! Well done!

Thanks!:thumbup::thumbup:

For what it's worth, here's the bead breaker video, no shot of the slide hammer complete, though. I need to weigh the slide, I think it's about 15 lbs.

Here's a clear video, still not much content :)

Breaking a Tire Bead

I don't know why it's fuzzy, probably has to do with loading it from my phone. I'll try again.
 
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I guess I can post directly to YouTube. I had not tried that, thanks! I'm trying it now, I can't see how to edit it, but this is a simple video anyway, just me beating on a tire bead.:lol_hitti

$2,000 would be reasonable around here with the mower. If there are any takers, but a flat rear tire and not running greatly diminishes the potential.



I've never seen one before, but it is a Bush Hog brand, and that is a good brand. It would work better with a true three point hitch, I think. I may put a rotary mower behind it and sell the mower.



Great! Bring your truck and haul this mower back.:bounce:

We've got a room for you.:thumbup: Plan to stay a few days and we'll do some blacksmithing.



I think cars were about ten years later than tractors. Tractors had insert bearings in the 30's and GM didn't go to inserts until the early fifties. And that unnecessary air conditioning didn't really hit until the 60's. My 1940 Farmall M is a fully serviceable tractor still today, where a 48 Chevrolet is not really suitable for current highway driving. Not a real good example, but for a similar horsepower tractor the old ones are heavier and will do a lot more work.

Yes, I will reuse the tire. I could fix the rim but it would be ten hours of work or more, and would still have a lot of thin metal. I opted to buy a new one for $127 delivered. If I had another rim as junk I would cut out good parts and weld them into this rim. I do that a lot with the 38" Farmall rims. Most of mine have been repaired.

I got distracted from the shelving units waiting for support pins to come in, I needed 120 or might have made them. They're cheap. I did restart this morning but then had to go negotiate on a house, my last. I had sold it last summer on a contract and let them begin renovation with no payments until 2019. I couldn't get in touch with them and today we agreed they had no claim to it. They did quite a bit of work but got discouraged and don't want to buy it anymore. I have a buyer waiting.



I guess the GPS systems which generate an accurate production map of a field is of value so you can fertilize to minimize inputs while maximizing outputs is of value, but the trend, which is coming in cars, of only loaning you the operating software and not selling it to you is scary.

For farmers who only need horsepower there are no good options. Old tractors like the IH 1486 are bringing a premium because they are relatively simple and reliable, especially after the advent of the water filters.

Mahindra has filled an intermediate need and they might do well with a 200 hp or 300 hp tractor.

I got serious about buying a new 75 hp tractor to have a new cab with A/C two years ago and was looking at 5065 JD talking to a salesman I know. I asked him bluntly what he thought about Kubota. he said they're all OK, but with any new tractor you have to come back to the dealer when you have computer problems, or have a service truck out if you can't get it to start. Saved me $50,000.



Right, the belt drives avoid a gearbox and give you a slippage point at the cost of replacing belts occasionally. I like that.:bounce:



Thanks!:thumbup::thumbup:

For what it's worth, here's the bead breaker video, no shot of the slide hammer complete, though. I need to weigh the slide, I think it's about 15 lbs.


I don't know why it's fuzzy, probably has to do with loading it from my phone. I'll try again.

Sounds good to me I should finally get back to my forge before then. Having to make hay while the sun shines with the bricks and logs. Plan is to have my friend cut the 24 inch. I got about 150 board feet from the eighteen.
 

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You've been busy i had to catch up, ive been out of pocket lately. It truly bugs me too why everything has to be so "advanced" when simple done the same job. :headscrat
 

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I guess I can post directly to YouTube. I had not tried that, thanks! I'm trying it now, I can't see how to edit it, but this is a simple video anyway, just me beating on a tire bead.:lol_hitti
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For what it's worth, here's the bead breaker video, no shot of the slide hammer complete, though. I need to weigh the slide, I think it's about 15 lbs.


I don't know why it's fuzzy, probably has to do with loading it from my phone. I'll try again.

You make it look easy! I wish I'd seen your collection of tools a week ago, before I started "learning" how to change a small trailer tire (on an old rusty wheel that I didn't care about). What I "learned" was that having the tire store do the work is the only way to avoid my tools damaging the painted rims. Your tools look like they'd be a lot better - thanks!
 
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Thanks for the lesson Andy. I was wondering how that was done.:confused:

Right:lol_hitti Like I've said many times, this is just how I do stuff. there has to be a better way...

Sounds good to me I should finally get back to my forge before then. Having to make hay while the sun shines with the bricks and logs. Plan is to have my friend cut the 24 inch. I got about 150 board feet from the eighteen.

I figured you could cut a 24" easily. Or is it too big for your loading capability?

We will fire up the forge!!:thumbup:

You've been busy i had to catch up, ive been out of pocket lately. It truly bugs me too why everything has to be so "advanced" when simple done the same job. :headscrat

I sure don't feel busy.

A lot of people want something just because it is new. It took me a long time to get used to electric windows in a car. Especially when they break.

You make it look easy! I wish I'd seen your collection of tools a week ago, before I started "learning" how to change a small trailer tire (on an old rusty wheel that I didn't care about). What I "learned" was that having the tire store do the work is the only way to avoid my tools damaging the painted rims. Your tools look like they'd be a lot better - thanks!

Tire store is the way to go. But it's a long way to a tire shop from my house. I can usually have a tire repaired before I'd get it to town, much less going back to get it later. Then there's the occasional extra trip when they didn't fix it after all.

Smaller the tire the harder they are to work with. I hate fighting lawn mower tires.
 

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I guess the GPS systems which generate an accurate production map of a field is of value so you can fertilize to minimize inputs while maximizing outputs is of value, but the trend, which is coming in cars, of only loaning you the operating software and not selling it to you is scary.

For farmers who only need horsepower there are no good options. Old tractors like the IH 1486 are bringing a premium because they are relatively simple and reliable, especially after the advent of the water filters.

Mahindra has filled an intermediate need and they might do well with a 200 hp or 300 hp tractor.

I got serious about buying a new 75 hp tractor to have a new cab with A/C two years ago and was looking at 5065 JD talking to a salesman I know. I asked him bluntly what he thought about Kubota. he said they're all OK, but with any new tractor you have to come back to the dealer when you have computer problems, or have a service truck out if you can't get it to start. Saved me $50,000.

No, I agree with the GPS part. Add on electronics to map, great. Moreso I was whining about all the ones trying to "tune" the engine around emissions. I'm not sure why farm tractors need to be completely fly by wire either now lol.

I agree on the Mahindra point; there's a new front end loader company allegedly linked to volvo doing the same. Unfortunately Mahindra has had some bad rep recently and I can't see them selling many here w/out dealer support. CIH or JD would have to, IMO.

Maybe make New Holland a more basic, simpler, brand? :thumbup:
 
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No, I agree with the GPS part. Add on electronics to map, great. Moreso I was whining about all the ones trying to "tune" the engine around emissions. I'm not sure why farm tractors need to be completely fly by wire either now lol.

I agree on the Mahindra point; there's a new front end loader company allegedly linked to volvo doing the same. Unfortunately Mahindra has had some bad rep recently and I can't see them selling many here w/out dealer support. CIH or JD would have to, IMO.

Maybe make New Holland a more basic, simpler, brand? :thumbup:

Unfortunately the strict emissions requirements have pushed manufacturers to tune to meet emissions standards. The fly by wire is probably cheaper, it is in cars. So all we need now is to outlaw older equipment which does not meet current emissions standards and we'll all get to enjoy more expensive food...

The world is changing.

Hershey still comes to the barn and waits patiently until I'm finished feeding the cows. They have their bluff in on her.

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In an effort to investigate the quality of the castings I'm making I bought a cheap electronic microscope. Supposed to magnify 1600X (for $16, is that a coincidence?). In any event, it came in and here's some shots. By the way, it came with a nice clear calibration card. I ordered some diamond polishing paste but it hasn't come yet so I had to get by with 1200 grit sand paper.

I looked at three pieces. The first, labeled C, is a manifold I poured. The feed came in from the left, had to go up into the riser, then back down into the pattern.

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Then there is a rectangular tube off of one of JB's engines, left, and part of an automotive suspension, center.

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There were some defects right on top of the manifold, the center mark is still barely visible on the outlet.

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The rectangular tube had lots of small inclusions. Here's one with a 0.07 MM line across it (from the standard they provided)

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It's nice being able to measure small stuff.

Here's the dimple on top of the manifold, it is about 1.5 MM top to bottom.

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And one inclusion from the end of the manifold.

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All the pictures are the same scale so the 0.07 MM line can be used as a reference. The manifold is not defect free, but not a lot of defects either. I'm looking forward to inspecting all the recent castings with different gating systems to see if I can identify what is better and what is worse.

Thanks for stopping by!!
 

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Out of curiosity, here are three pictures I took of my table cloth with the 0.03 MM, 0.05, and 0.07 standards.

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Don't think I wasted my $16.:lol_hitti
 

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