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Clopay??? No Way!!!

Galvatron

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I want to share a story with my fellow garage enthusiasts. Kind of long sorry, my wife does not understand my frustration and I want some validation.

For the last 2-3 months I've been planning and saving for my precious new garage door. I had been going back and fourth from mfg. to mfg. on which one I wanted to go with. At first I was fully set on Amaar, then I had considered Dalton. Finally I found the Clopay Gallery 2" to be an incredible value and their reputation seemed pretty good from the research I had done, so I excitedly ordered my new door about 3 weeks ago and set the install date for the morning of Oct. 2nd (today). So yesterday I called the installer (Performance Building Products Vancouver, Wa.) to confirm we were on for the specified time. They said "yes sir. you are the first install that morning, see you between 9AM and 11AM" I said, "I'm going to miss some work, so please be on time". So I give them a call at 11AM to find out they are on another install 60 miles away and they will be here late afternoon. I tell them if they are not here in an hour they can keep the door.

They show up 2 hours later and start tearing out my old door. *Note to installers, make sure you have all the necessary parts before tearing out old door* Turns out Clopay sent a 7' rail kit instead of an 8'. When called on it, Clopay refused to deliver the proper rail kit to the installation site so the installers had to modify my old busted up rails to work until they can get the new ones out. I'm pissed. Then I start admiring how pretty the new door panels are until I see one of the panels has about 4 obvious dents in it right out of the packaging. I'm fuming.

So my house currently sits with a new $1500 garage door full of dents on old busted up rails. Add to this Clopay did not ship all the proper hardware (spade handles), I talked to a Clopay rep on the phone, and when asked if this is how they normally do business she answered with " I'm sorry sir, I've only been here a few weeks"??? Good F'ing Answer! This is what is wrong with our country today, complacency.

I'm sure there are millions of satisfied Clopay customers, but that was my experience. Take it for what it's worth.
 
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nova65ss

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That stinks sounds like alot of it has to do with your installer. He should of double checked what he loaded on his truck before he left the door center. Not to mention him being late!
 
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Galvatron

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Nova I was hoping you would respond. I agree, I got the short end of the stick all the way around. After everything is fixed I will still be demanding a 10-20% refund of total cost since I paid for all of this weeks in advance.

The part that really bugs me is that I always plan things so carefully and things like this that are essentially out of my control always bite me in the ***. Chances are if I was your typical consumer that doesn't care, everything would have gone perfect.

BTW, Nova. I had a Liftmaster 3850 installed today too, and it seems that when the lights in the opener are turned off, one of them seems to faintly flicker repetatively. Have you encountered this before?
 

autoist

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Not the experiences I've had with Clopay & I've had 4 of their wooden doors on my garage for 15 years! Every time I've had a question, they've responded instantly...a few years ago, I wanted to redo the rails on my doors to get them closer to the ceiling...within less than a week, they'd shipped the items I needed to do the modifications.

Now, every time I've worked with local installers, I've gotten real upset (& that's being nice!)....they can't show up on time, they don't work real hard - or long - & they're more interested in their next job than mine!

'Course none of my installers are Clopey employees either!
 

rickairmedic

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I would say the install company overbooked your installer so I wouldnt blame it so much on him if they told you that you were the first stop yesterday and today you were his second stop they either double booked him today or they overbooked him yesterday as far as materials go if he is being overbooked he may just be putting materials in the truck that somebody else should have verified were all there although . I always doublecheck as my van is being loaded at a supplier to make sure what I am supposed to be getting is actually what I got :D. I also think the packaging might not have been done properly on your doors if they were dented up when you got them the dents were put there at some point in transit hard to say if it was o n the installers truck or the shippers truck. I hav e actually taken brand new equipment out of a box at a customers house only to find it dinged or dented although the boxes showed no sighns of damage . I usually box it right back up and return it promptly but I am seldom more than 20 miles from my distributor so it doesnt hurt the job as much. I will also say on service I give a 2 hour window if you are one of the earlier appointments for the day you stand a good chance of getting me there within that 2 hours but if you are one of the later customers and its been a rough day I may be late . I will also say though if I am going to be late I either call back to the office so they can give customers advanced warning or I call the customers directly to let them know I have been held up at another job longer than expected. I can also say though that I own the joint and I want to keep every customer HAPPY when your just a peon working for the man sometimes you dont care as much wehter or not Mr. Jones will ever call the company again:D. I wish you luck in getting things resolved and am sure if the company has a good reputation they will get you taken care of . I will add here if you are having a large repair done at your house plan to take that day off of work not the 2 hours that the company gave you as a time . I will appear at your house within that 2 hour window it doesnt mean I will be at your house promptly at 9AM it means I will be there somewhere between 9 and 11 and depending on traffic it could be closer to 11 which means if I run into trouble at your house I am now late for my 11-1 which throws the rest of thee day off. This morning my first appointment was 8-10 I got to their house to find he had taken her to work her didnt return until a little after 9 took me 2 more appointments to get back on track for the day and I still just made it to my 2-4 at about 3:30.

Rick
 
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Galvatron

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Thanks for the insight. I thought I had the install time covered considering I didn't need to leave for work until 3pm. That would mean worst case scenario they would have 4 hours to complete install. I thought that was probably more than enough. The problem was that they showed up at 1pm and finished at 4pm.
I had a bunch of trim I was waiting to put up till tonight after the new door was installed, but seeing as how they will need to come out and reinstall it in 3 weeks, I guess I'll be waiting.
At this point for me to be "taken care of" I will need some financial reimbursment as well as replacing the damaged product. I just hope they step up and do the right thing. I'll keep you posted.
 
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Dave928

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it was prob'ly more the installer, not the door co.

when i bought my wayne-dalton doors i also had to buy low headroom rail kits as my garage ceiling is only 7'6". the installer brought two extra pairs as he didn't know i already had them.

he also installed side latches for nothing after i asked about them. "i've got a couple extra on the truck, i can throw those on for you"
 

dcjredline

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This here is why I do my own work. I never built a garage before but I just dont trust contractors not to cut corners and do things I wouldnt do. Hence I built my own, did my own roofing, siding and doors. That way there is no questions what so ever.
 
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Galvatron

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You can research things until you're blue in the face, but nothing you read, see or hear can take the place of experience. That is why I hire contractors to do certain things. The only problem is that it's a roll of the dice whether you get a good contractor, and lately it seems my luck is bad. I'm coming to the conclusion that even without experience I would probably do as good or better of a job than the contractor. The beauty with hiring out is that if they damage something during install it's out of their pocket to fix it and not mine. It's a trade off.
 

Curly from the HAMB

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Ok....I've been holding this in for a while so maybe I should finally vent about my Clopay doors. I ordered 2 doors 10'x8' insulated raised panel doors. They were delivered on time and no damage. I install one door myself with only one missing hinge. It looked like the hardware kit was pre-packaged for a 4 panel door and I have 5 panel doors. I asked my supplier if that was normal and they laughed, said yes and gave me a hinge from their stock.

All was good or so I thought. I went to install the second door and whoa is it different. The center brace is not a single brace like the first door, it is a double brace and now requires additional hinges (4 to be exact) that are not to be found. I really pissed now but bite my lip and purchase the missing hinges including the 5th hinge because of the 5 panel vs 4 panel thing again. I get the door installed and all is well other than the poor hardware counts/packaging and two doors identical in size ordered on the same order having different bracing....or so I thought. I look at the raised panels, two per panel and 5 panels......9 line up and one is stamped 3" off center:mad:

I wait a year and decide it may have been a fluke so I order some vinyl trim in brown. I make sure the guy puts in the proper color codes and lengths.....all is well. Order arrives and 1/2 comes in white. I get the store manager involved and we verify that it was ordered correctly and the wrong stuff was shipped!

I'm done with Clopay also.....
 

LoneGunman

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"I thought that was probably more than enough. The problem was that they showed up at 1pm and finished at 4pm. "

You based this on what? You pretty much said you are clueless when it comes to garage door installation but you are quoting how long it should take, how's that work?


"At this point for me to be "taken care of" I will need some financial reimbursment as well as replacing the damaged product. "

Financial reimbursment for what? Clopay may be a **** company or you may have gotten a bad installer, I have no idea and really don't care but judging by your post you sound like a real PITA to work for. You havent even given them the chance to make anything right before bad mouthing their company. **** happens in the construction industry, the installer runs into problems, the job runs longer than expected which screws up the rest of the schedule. I guess they should have left the first customer they were at to do your job or cut corners on the first job so they could get to yours and do it perfectly,right?

Materials get damaged during production, movement from manufacturer to distributor, from distributor to installer ETC. So without even knowing who to blame you blame Clopay, I'd LMAO if they read this post and told you
pound sand.
 
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