Coat hangers for subfeed?

[nwav8tor]

This thread just reminded me of a project that I need to get done.
I want a 3-way switch between the house and the garage for outside lights. Now that the ground is frozen and snow covered I am not about to dig a trench so I was thinking that I already have a trench for a sewer pipe and that could act as a conduit also. I already made a materials list.

1. The neighbor's new extension cord (mine are all 2 prong).
2. Some Leak-Ender 2000 (That stuff is supposed to be awesome!).
3. My BIL's shop vac (to aid in pulling the extension cord thru).
4. Some duct tape (unless somebody knows a better way to attach extension cord to the toilet bowl so the lid still closes properly).
5. The 3-way switches I saw at the dump the other day (Hope they are still there).
6. Electrical tape (I'm not such a hack that I would use duct tape on the splices).
7. Everything else I should have or can pillage from other abandoned projects.

I was thinking that I can hook up my BIL's shop vac to the toilet in the garage then go inside the house and try flushing the cord down the house toilet. If all goes well then I will need to bring the torches into the cellar and cut a hole in the cast iron sewer drain and try to hook the cord with clothes hanger (That's what reminded me about this project) and pull it out the hole. Seal it up with some leak-ender 2000. After that it is all standard electrical work like attaching the cord to the joists with nails bent over, Notching the faceplates to sneak the cord into the switches, and mounting the gooseneck desk lamp on the side of the building.

I plan on fitting this project in after we open presents and before lunch on christmas day although I think it will only take me less than an hour start to finish. I"ll keep you posted and try to take polaroids of the process and have them scanned.

PICS!!! We want pics when your project is done!

Paul

 

[madosta]

Bahahahahahaha!!! Spit out my coffee reading some of your responses.

I had posted some pics last night, but seems a mod deleted 'em! I am able to heat up some baked potatoes with these coat hangers guys!

Don't want to hjiack or end this awesome debacle. Keep it up.

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[Steve.S]

Wonder if I polished the inside of the airlines? Anybody know how to build a set-up that will redirect the air currents into a laminar flow pattern? That way I could pulse the air in a digital manner. Oh wait I know bi-directional multi pressure air currents for CAN data lines!!!!!

If I add an automatic oiler to my system, that should help keep the air tools lubricated AND speed up my internet, right???

 

[Steve.S]

This thread just reminded me of a project that I need to get done.
I want a 3-way switch between the house and the garage for outside lights. Now that the ground is frozen and snow covered I am not about to dig a trench so I was thinking that I already have a trench for a sewer pipe and that could act as a conduit also. I already made a materials list.

1. The neighbor's new extension cord (mine are all 2 prong).
2. Some Leak-Ender 2000 (That stuff is supposed to be awesome!).
3. My BIL's shop vac (to aid in pulling the extension cord thru).
4. Some duct tape (unless somebody knows a better way to attach extension cord to the toilet bowl so the lid still closes properly).
5. The 3-way switches I saw at the dump the other day (Hope they are still there).
6. Electrical tape (I'm not such a hack that I would use duct tape on the splices).
7. Everything else I should have or can pillage from other abandoned projects.

I was thinking that I can hook up my BIL's shop vac to the toilet in the garage then go inside the house and try flushing the cord down the house toilet. If all goes well then I will need to bring the torches into the cellar and cut a hole in the cast iron sewer drain and try to hook the cord with clothes hanger (That's what reminded me about this project) and pull it out the hole. Seal it up with some leak-ender 2000. After that it is all standard electrical work like attaching the cord to the joists with nails bent over, Notching the faceplates to sneak the cord into the switches, and mounting the gooseneck desk lamp on the side of the building.

I plan on fitting this project in after we open presents and before lunch on christmas day although I think it will only take me less than an hour start to finish. I"ll keep you posted and try to take polaroids of the process and have them scanned.

Listen, you have a perfectly valid concept here, but you have to use quality materials. Ditch that Leak Ender **** and get some Flex Seal instead. You saw the guy in the screen door boat, right? Also, I saw a 3-way Clapper on sale at Menards, so consider raising the bar by making it hands-free. Well, you'll use them to clap but you know what I mean.

 

[kert]

Depends if it's a wet area or not. CAWH is not allowed underground.

FCPFH is the best if you have to go underground. (Flattened Copper Pipe With a ******* Hammer... actually makes a decent bus bar!)

Don't forget to run it through an old leaky garden hose first so you'll have some insulation.

 

[Zeke]

Bahahahahahaha!!! Spit out my coffee reading some of your responses.

I had posted some pics last night, but seems a mod deleted 'em! I am able to heat up some baked potatoes with these coat hangers guys!



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You haven't done schit until you've put 120v through a big ol' Gerkin pickle. Insert some clean box nails and clip up on them. Plug that sucker in and watch it glow.

Excellent beverage time entertainment. Just don't let the kids see that one.

 

[SuitorsGarage]

You haven't done schit until you've put 120v through a big ol' Gerkin pickle. Insert some clean box nails and clip up on them. Plug that sucker in and watch it glow.

Excellent beverage time entertainment. Just don't let the kids see that one.

We used to cook hot dogs on nails like that for lunch when I was an apprentice.
Never grab the wiener while plugged into the wall still!

 

[casetractorfarmer]

We used to cook hot dogs on nails like that for lunch when I was an apprentice.
Never grab the wiener while plugged into the wall still!

Now to decress the cooking time hook it up to 240 or 480 if your daring and watch the hot dog explode

 

[wyliesdiesels]

Omg! I've never laughed so hard on this forum!

 

[nehog]

Now to decress the cooking time hook it up to 240 or 480 if your daring and watch the hot dog explode

Never, ever use 480 for hot dogs... 480 is reserved for turkeys and large chickens. Smaller chickens are best done with 277 volts, at 480 you risk making them tough and chewy.

Now for re-heating your coffee...

 

[wyliesdiesels]

Don't forget that 277v and up has an arc flash hazard, so your wieners and birds will be nice and crispy on the outside just as if they cooked over a campfire! Koom-by-ya

 

[Teken]

I haven't laughed this hard in a long time! Some of the replies are simply out of this world and should be published in a tech magazine.

Teken . . .

 

[Alchymist]

Actually had at one time a hotdog cooker that used line voltage to cook the dogs similar to this one:

 

[Duck tape Bill]

Actually had at one time a hotdog cooker that used line voltage to cook the dogs similar to this one:

I wonder if I could make one that plugs into my jeeps cigarette lighter? should I use a 30 or a 40 amp fuse for that, and what length should I make it, standard ballpark frank length, or the bun length? And do you think I should upgrade to a duel battery system or just add a second alternator to the spot where my AC compressor should be?

...A fast response would be appreciated, it's past lunch time and I'm getting hungry!

 

[madosta]

I wonder if I could make one that plugs into my jeeps cigarette lighter? should I use a 30 or a 40 amp fuse for that, and what length should I make it, standard ballpark frank length, or the bun length? And do you think I should upgrade to a duel battery system or just add a second alternator to the spot where my AC compressor should be?

...A fast response would be appreciated, it's past lunch time and I'm getting hungry!

Come on noob! Make a burrito box or just wrap in foil and place near your exhaust manifold!

 

[Steve.S]

I wonder if I could make one that plugs into my jeeps cigarette lighter? should I use a 30 or a 40 amp fuse for that, and what length should I make it, standard ballpark frank length, or the bun length? And do you think I should upgrade to a duel battery system or just add a second alternator to the spot where my AC compressor should be?

...A fast response would be appreciated, it's past lunch time and I'm getting hungry!

This sounds similar to a project I worked on over the summer. Important points:

* Forget the 2nd alternator - too hard to fab up a bracket that will work with your Jeep's AC compressor mount. Measure your alternator pulley diameter, then remove it and use your bench grinder to take off half the metal. The pulley will then spin twice as fast, thus delivering 24 V instead of 12. This should give you plenty of juice for wienie roasting.

* Use wire coat hangers, both to deliver the power and as a structure to hold the wienies. This also helps to solve the standard or ballpark length dilemma, since your roaster can be adjustable.

* A 40 amp fuse WILL work, but isn't always enough to thoroughly heat your dogs. Depending on the age of your Jeep, I'd go with either a 12 gauge jumper wire or a .22 caliber bullet. If you go with the 2nd option, make sure to aim it downward so as to save your dashboard innards in the event of an overload.

Be sure to post a pic when you get it done.

 

[gatchel]

Actually had at one time a hotdog cooker that used line voltage to cook the dogs similar to this one:

Many years ago, Mr Wizard (Don Herbert) cooked hot dogs using line voltage on his show. It works very well.

 

[Worsedog]

Actually had at one time a hotdog cooker that used line voltage to cook the dogs similar to this one:

I still have one of those things. Works great, and the dogs taste awesome.


Back in the day I was building a fire alarm in a local county government building, I was watching a couple of "lectricians" trying to cook a hot dog at the electrical panel. They shoved the wire all the way thrugh the dog and went from the breaker to ground. Couldn't figure out why it kept popping the breaker.

 

[Spudland_Dave]

They shoved the wire all the way thrugh the dog and went from the breaker to ground. Couldn't figure out why it kept popping the breaker.

So in a case like this, do we take the wire ampacity rating from the 60, 75 or 90 degree column? What is the Hot Dog casing rating when used as insulation?

Here in New England RED hot Dogs are the best....They're so good, I be they must be 90 degree ones...
Inquiring Minds want/need to know!

 

[nwav8tor]

Come on noob! Make a burrito box or just wrap in foil and place near your exhaust manifold!

Wrap it in foil?? Real men don't need no stinkin' foil!!

 

[zuk123]

One of my earliest project memories was BUILDING one of those hot dog cookers with my dad. It was in some project book, and we did it. Bent the sheet metal for the box, soldered the corners, made the weiner forks from 4p finish nails soldered to a strip of sheet metal and mounted to a piece of Bakelite.

I don't remember how it cooked, but I remember the smell of the solder and the bakelite.

Awesome!

zuk

PS to the OP, the hangers should be fine if you replace the bar type fuses in your disconnect with steel angle brackets that have been straightened out. Then you won't be mixing metals and risking corrosion issues.

 

[JakeKohl]

Actually had at one time a hotdog cooker that used line voltage to cook the dogs similar to this one:

No kidding!? Is that a resistance cooker? I have never seen anything like that (and I'm not sure I ever want to experience it).

 

[Vegaman_Dan]

Geez, I don't know why you guys are getting so bent out of shape over coat hangers and their proper current ratings.

I've been running my China OOC hangers from Harbor Freight for years now without any issue. The heavy oil coating glows nicely with a minimum of smoke.

I have been considering shifting to Craftsman hangers, but they don't state if the lifetime warranty is that of the hanger... or the person using it!

 

[kursplat]

i think i'm going to get some fresh coat hangers, bend them into the shape of some "hot women", post pictures of said coat hanger "hot women" here, and see if i can get this thread locked before the end of the world...

 

[Honest Bob]

Yes, but 1Gig Ethernet full duplex requires at least 25 CFM @ 90 PSI, so unless you have a big compressor you'll only get 10 or maybe 100Meg throughput.

This bad boy will bring you up to 10gb quad duplex.

 

[zuk123]

^^ oh my!

 

[madosta]

This bad boy will bring you up to 10gb quad duplex.

LMAO. This is how you can get to go home early from work.

 

[my58]

This bad boy will bring you up to 10gb quad duplex.

I know this is going to start a major argument but for safety sake do not put that cable in PVC you need to run that in black iron for it to be safe!

 

[wyliesdiesels]

This bad boy will bring you up to 10gb quad duplex.

Wow. Looks like a home made jury rigged POE injector! Looks like it didn't work too well judging buy the melted insulation and the fact that POE voltage is way lower than 120v!

 

[Zeke]

This bad boy will bring you up to 10gb quad duplex.

I've got s few things I'd like to hitch up the that. Once and for all.

 

[madosta]

Wow. Looks like a home made jury rigged POE injector! Looks like it didn't work too well judging buy the melted insulation and the fact that POE voltage is way lower than 120v!

Haha! Yea typically PoE is DC 48v and depending on the switch may or may not be active unless needed.

I wonder what the back story is on this.

You can blow up switch ports this way though, for sure. I mean, just assuming, never actually tried it.... Muwahahaha.

 

[rlitman]

You can blow up switch ports this way though, for sure. I mean, just assuming, never actually tried it.... Muwahahaha.

This guy seems to think it works:
http://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/

But I'm sure my SnapOn switch would be fine with a little extra voltage. Now forget about a Harbor Freight hub. You'd never get past the smell of the burning plastic, but that was before you even plugged this thing in.

 

[6t7gto]

Presto hot dog cooker...

 

[madosta]

This guy seems to think it works:
http://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/

But I'm sure my SnapOn switch would be fine with a little extra voltage. Now forget about a Harbor Freight hub. You'd never get past the smell of the burning plastic, but that was before you even plugged this thing in.

LOL. I love the powered hub. I mean, this is dangerous, nobody should do it.

I added some blinker fluid to my flux capacitor and rebooted my rf modulator today at work and have been back on all 1.21 jiggawatts of power. Take that.

 

[6t7gto]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-198...all_Kitchen_Appliances_US&hash=item564fca03ce

 

[JakeKohl]

LOL. I love the powered hub. I mean, this is dangerous, nobody should do it.

I added some blinker fluid to my flux capacitor and rebooted my rf modulator today at work and have been back on all 1.21 jiggawatts of power. Take that.

Errrr...you should be careful and not use just any kind of blinker fluid. Use only **** 4 or higher. Otherwise, the permeation of CH4 (which is in high concentration at the moment due to this conversation) through the fluid could offset the natural wave pattern of the dual moglogs....lord knows, you don't want that to happen!

 

[Steve.S]

I know this is going to start a major argument but for safety sake do not put that cable in PVC you need to run that in black iron for it to be safe!

I call BS on this...mine's been in PVC since the internet was invented. Thinking about switching to copper in the new shop, though. My network's gigabit - should I sweat or braze the joints?

 

[nehog]

I call BS on this...mine's been in PVC since the internet was invented. Thinking about switching to copper in the new shop, though. My network's gigabit - should I sweat or braze the joints?

Silver solder is the only way to go... Silver is the best conductor there is, and as well the copper tubing must be silver plated, both inside and outside for best performance. After all, why do it half good when you want the very best.

 

[383 240z]

Silverplating will only get you so far. The engineer in me seems to think that for the absolute best conductivity and effective heat transfer (those dual moglogs get very hot when exposed to single phase voltages above 277 V) you really need to use gold. This gold plating materials can be sourced from any Snap-on truck that is authorized to sell in your local area network (LAN if you will). I had a goldfish once named AU. His mate was called AU 2. She was a *****. Keith

 

[nehog]

Gold is pretty, but silver had the higher conductivity. Gold is used where oxidation is a factor! However, the best answer may be to combine your suggestion and mine. Start by plating with silver (inside and out) then plate a second coat of gold. Not only will it protect the silver from any oxidation, it will also look really, really sharp, generating bling/swag points for the owner. BTW, all the mounts really should be machined Teflon block type with stainless hardware.