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Manatee91

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I am rebuilding a electric percolator but I need a wire that is shot
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Dose anyone know what this is and where to find it?

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Is that the wire for thermostat or electric supply? I believe you can just replace it with copper and reuse the fiberglass insulation (it's just there for heat/fire resistance)
 
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It looks like it bypasses the temperature switch is that right?

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Is that the wire for thermostat or electric supply? I believe you can just replace it with copper and reuse the fiberglass insulation (it's just there for heat/fire resistance)



That's not correct. It's high temp appliance wire. Using regular wire is a good way to start a fire.

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That's not correct. It's high temp appliance wire. Using regular wire is a good way to start a fire.

Tommy

The high temperature part of the wire is the fiberglass insulation isn't it? I'm not talking about using standard wire with a plastic insulation that can melt and short out.
 

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If it does connect across the thermostat, then perhaps it is resistance wire. And that would be there to keep some current flowing through the heating element to keep the coffee warm after brewing completes.

Look at the terminations - the wire is wrapped around a post and then crimped in a lug. That is how resistance wire is terminated.
 
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So if I don't care to keep it hot after brewing can I just go without

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I believe the "rope-like" covering is asbestos insulation. No big deal.
Bring it into an specialty Appliance parts store.

Manatee91 - cannot see where your located in your profile. If you are in the midwest, I can name a few for you to go to.
 

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If it does connect across the thermostat, then perhaps it is resistance wire. And that would be there to keep some current flowing through the heating element to keep the coffee warm after brewing completes.

Look at the terminations - the wire is wrapped around a post and then crimped in a lug. That is how resistance wire is terminated.

This... :thumbup:
 
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Manatee91

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I believe the "rope-like" covering is asbestos insulation. No big deal.
Bring it into an specialty Appliance parts store.

Manatee91 - cannot see where your located in your profile. If you are in the midwest, I can name a few for you to go to.
Northern colorado town called fortcollins

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Northern colorado town called fortcollins

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Cool, your up on the Front Range.

Try this, same company who I go thru back here in MN and Iowa.

Dey Appliance/Dey Distributing
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The high temperature part of the wire is the fiberglass insulation isn't it? I'm not talking about using standard wire with a plastic insulation that can melt and short out.

The wire itself is different too, not just the insulation.

Tommy
 

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The wire itself is different too, not just the insulation.

Tommy


Yeah, nickle plated stranded copper. I got that. Has better thermal and corrosive properties than bare copper. That said a bare copper wire shielded by fiberglass in a coffee maker should be fine. The heating element used in a coffee maker doesn't generate enough heat to melt solid copper wire and the fiberglass insulation will prevent it from shorting out. You could probably buy a new coffee maker for the cost of a roll of appliance wire, LOL...
 
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Yeah, nickle plated stranded copper. I got that. Has better thermal and corrosive properties than bare copper. That said a bare copper wire shielded by fiberglass in a coffee maker should be fine. The heating element used in a coffee maker doesn't generate enough heat to melt solid copper wire and the fiberglass insulation will prevent it from shorting out. You could probably buy a new coffee maker for the cost of a roll of appliance wire, LOL...

Wrong.

This wire is a resistor used to limit current to the heater and keep the coffee warm after brewing. If you replace it with copper as you suggest, the coffee pot will percolate continuously.
 

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Wrong.

This wire is a resistor used to limit current to the heater and keep the coffee warm after brewing. If you replace it with copper as you suggest, the coffee pot will percolate continuously.

Understood however the part that you quoted was in response to comment about appliance wire and using copper shielded by fiberglass is a fire hazard. The first thing I asked was is wire for electric supply or thermostat.
 

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The problem with any home use coffee pot is that they don't get hot enough to brew good coffee. You need to get the temperature up to 130 degrees . That's the main reason coffee in a press is so much better, you boil the water before you use it. If this was about how to hotrod a coffee pot it would be better.
 

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The problem with any home use coffee pot is that they don't get hot enough to brew good coffee. You need to get the temperature up to 130 degrees . That's the main reason coffee in a press is so much better, you boil the water before you use it. If this was about how to hotrod a coffee pot it would be better.
Hey, now you're talking!

Let's weld a 1 1/2" tube off to the side of this thing and put a 4500 watt immersion element in it, and heat this ***** up proper! :lol_hitti
 
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This will be used once to make coffee for about 20 hung over 20 somthing year-olds at a wedding my dayly coffee is made on the stove with eather a french press or a italian press

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OK, now ya got me, what's the difference in a French press and a Italian press ?
 

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I just realized that coffee may be the only thing that I really enjoy that isn't bad for me. My doctor also told me that, as long as you don't put anything in it, coffee is considered a clear liquid, cool !
 
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The French press is a container that you let the coffee seep in then push a plunger down to separate the grounds out. An Italian press is a 2 part boiler that forces hot water through packed grounds in to a second chamber to be served. So the French press makes more coffee but a italian press is espresso


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I just realized that coffee may be the only thing that I really enjoy that isn't bad for me. My doctor also told me that, as long as you don't put anything in it, coffee is considered a clear liquid, cool !
It is actually good for you. It is a anti oxedent and as long as you drink 8oz of watter as well for every 8oz of coffee you are fairly nutral for water intake

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This will be used once to make coffee for about 20 hung over 20 something year-olds at a wedding

Has the big day day come and gone, or is the coffee pot still on the workbench?

Because it sounds like you might have a broken nichrome wire inside that asbestos jacket.

If that is indeed the case, then there is a shadetree electrician's trick to try: gently twist the broken ends together, apply a slurry of borax powder/water, then apply power and let the joint heat up.

If you are lucky, the joint will heat to cherry red and then the nichrome wires will sort of fuse together.

I've used this to keep an old school toaster going when the heating element got severed. And, no, I did not think it would work when I first heard about it, either. :)
 
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Has the big day day come and gone, or is the coffee pot still on the workbench?

Because it sounds like you might have a broken nichrome wire inside that asbestos jacket.

If that is indeed the case, then there is a shadetree electrician's trick to try: gently twist the broken ends together, apply a slurry of borax powder/water, then apply power and let the joint heat up.

If you are lucky, the joint will heat to cherry red and then the nichrome wires will sort of fuse together.

I've used this to keep an old school toaster going when the heating element got severed. And, no, I did not think it would work when I first heard about it, either. :)
Thanks for the tip

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Looking for the very fine wire that is coiled around some sort of insulated material then covered with a heat resistant cover. GE was no help. The wire is very thin hope it is visible in pics. The bi metal switch works, checked it with heat gun. When opened bottom this fine wire was broken and what it was wrapped around crumbled.
 

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