I should probably search TGJ before posting this as I'm sure someone has already spoke on this set, but I'm on the road and don't have great internet access at the moment. ...
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I should probably search TGJ before posting this as I'm sure someone has already spoke on this set, but I'm on the road and don't have great internet access at the moment. ...
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IndyGarage
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It's a great kit. What Wera calls the speed ratchet kit is a bit more expensive but better. It has the full zyklop 1/4 inch ratchet in it. I use it all the time.
American Locomotive
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We have a few of these at work for operators to use for machine maintenance. Very nice little kits.
twarren
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Hmmm. Obviously not aimed at Canadians. No Robertson bits! 
Warren...........
Warren...........
LMS
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They have several models in the same form factor. The one I bought a few days ago has the robertson bits (or as we say down here in 'murca, "square drive").
Lots of duplicates in the Phillips and pozigrip bits... I have not thought about what else I would like to see instead. However. I don't feel the need for redundancy in a road kit since it doesn't get used so much that I am wearing out bits in short order. I find variety more useful than duplication.
It reminds me of the 250 piece Craftsman toolkit that contains 178 hex keys... I know I am exaggerating but it seems that tool companies make these bundles with duplicates of rather inexpensive pieces just to bump the tool count up for marketing.
It reminds me of the 250 piece Craftsman toolkit that contains 178 hex keys... I know I am exaggerating but it seems that tool companies make these bundles with duplicates of rather inexpensive pieces just to bump the tool count up for marketing.
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PH and PZ isn't redundant if you live outside the U.S. Wera is a Euro company and PZ is pretty common over there
flushcut
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That may just find a home in my kitchen junk drawer.
dutchgray
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Pretty much the only new Phillips I see here in the UK is drywall and collated screws (in construction) everything is Pozi if it isn't Torx.
I was not questioning the need for both Phillips an Pozi. I was questioning just how many #3 Phillips and how many #3 Pozi bits I need in one road / travel / glovebox kit.They have several instances of duplicates of the EXACT same bit in the kit.
If you were building a kit out of tools in your garage, how many #3 screwdrivers would you put in it? With the exception of a once in a lifetime use of a screw post, I have never found myself needing two of the exact same screwdriver at the same time.
However, if I needed a kit like this, those duplicates would not stop me from buying it. I was just pointing out the way tool companies inflate their tool count and price of kits without adding much additional value.
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RoundedNut
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The driver handle and bit ratchet would be nice for tight spaces with smaller fasteners, but other than that, I don't see it being very useful. Cut the bits and sockets to no more than 6mm, P2, etc. and it might be okay in a niche role between a precision (4mm) set and regular 1/4" sets... pretty small niche tho.
I'd agree the #3 probably don't need duplicates. But I do appreciate the PH #2 duplicate, as that is unquestionably the one that gets worn out most frequently, even in the good brands. While I wouldn't mind a few more pieces, I don't think they're guilty of padding the piece count with valueless items...
When I bought a cheaper bit ratchet set, it quickly became one of my favorite tools. It's amazing how often those tight spaces make it useful, and how often I've run across applications where I can avoid taking more stuff apart to get at fasteners. I count it as one of the most useful tools I own.
Dumber than lumber
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I bought one of those kits (minus the driver handle) for my son about 6 or 7 years ago. I wanted him to have good reliable tools that might last him the rest of his life.
He was just telling me this a.m. about how it "saved the day" during an event this weekend. And this is not the first time that his colleagues and class leaders have been amazed by the power of this little package.
He packs it with him just about everywhere and it continually has proved its worth.
IMO this is one of those stocking stuffer gifts that will be greatly cherished by a "toolie".
He was just telling me this a.m. about how it "saved the day" during an event this weekend. And this is not the first time that his colleagues and class leaders have been amazed by the power of this little package.
He packs it with him just about everywhere and it continually has proved its worth.
IMO this is one of those stocking stuffer gifts that will be greatly cherished by a "toolie".
PelicanPines
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I keep that in my go bag. I modified the selection to include a full set of square drives.
I also include a full sized ratcheting driver handle.
I also include a full sized ratcheting driver handle.
In each size, there's 1 pozi and 1 PH bit as part of the kit. Not sure what the issue is...
That's 3 pieces in the whole kit. This has your ******* in a bunch? Really?
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Maybe I am wrong but when I look at the linked picture I see:
- PH1 x 2
- PH2 x 3
- PH3 x 1
- PZ 1 x 1
- PZ 2 x 3
- PZ 3 x 1
That's 5 duplicates. Maybe they could have included a #1,#2,#3 Robertson and a few small slotted screwdriver bits for variety?
Either way, as I said in my original post, it would not stop me from buying it if I was in the market for something like this.
You're right, Robertsons...
PelicanPines
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I replaced those duplicates with square drive... a more likely need for me. AKA Robertson.
For me bits are consumables... I stock Wera bits... it was a no brainer AND a zero effort upgrade.
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GreyOwl
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For those wanting Robertson try this one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016NC7NN0/?tag=atomicindus08-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016NC7NN0/?tag=atomicindus08-20
SuperCat
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Looks like a premium toolkit, but I think it is a bit pricey. It probably could use a universal joint, and/or a wobble extension, and an additional extension about 6 inches long. I can't think of a time that I used a 1/4 inch drive ratchet without an extension. I guess I've got short arms... And just for redundancy, it needs a ratcheting screwdriver handle in addition to the included ratchet. Overall, that kit is the most compact kit I have seen in a long time. 
LMS
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If that's the only thing stopping you, there's a pretty simple solution to that...
I like mine a lot for it's purpose - part of a small tool roll I keep in my car.
Qualitytools
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I have an older kit without the color bands on the sockets and I Love it, compact, organised, has a belt clip and fits my need perfectly for 1/4 drive, quality and great design thru and thru.
RoundedNut
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You should get a 1/4" ratchet/driver set. These bit ratchets are a good addition but not core tools. Here's my den desk kit, got a Stanley 1/4" set, trashed everything but the case and filled it with Taiwanese tools, which includes the wiha bit ratchet. The wera bit ratchet is also Taiwanese btw.
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Qualitytools
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manwithtools
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Can't see your photo, I get access denied, please fix the link
Easy fix, remove the i. from the url, known issue with imgur
https://imgur.com/52iIB2o.jpg
Try that link....
garageguy1
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noob questions ....I assume the ratchet mechanism is only when you use the Zyklop handle on top and not when you use the screwdriver handle with the bit adapter ?...do they make a set like this where the handle is ratchet as opposed to buying the ratchet handle alone
413dan
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this is an awesome kit. gonna have to see if amazon has any free shipping or coupon code days coming up.
I have been lurking around this tool set on the web. Seen ppl use it in YT vids. Wera is definitely a quality brand. However I bought their wera kompact kraftform spring loaded screwdriver and it was a complete let down 4 me. The model I had, if you grab the end of the driver with your left hand and put the tiny-est bit of downward pressure on it, the chuck released the bit. Which made it useless for me. Since then, I have made it a point to get my hands on a real world model of newer innovative tools I have never used, before buying my own and I haven't touched this one yet. Quite pricey for a travel pack but cool none the less.
Wera does make a bad a$$ ratchet driver. Its expensive but its top notch. They have yet to incorporate their kompact kraftform into a ratchet type driver. If they do, I will immediately purchase it, with the magnetic bit. Not the spring loaded bit holder that I mentioned b4. (Unless that issue has been fixed)