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My son turns 17 today and he will be taking his 2yr of Automotive next year and it appears he may continue in this field after high school. Looking to buy him a decent set of tools that will work for the time being. Looking for an all-in-one set if they still make them. Or do I need to buy sets individually in order to get a complete set?

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Google complete tool set. The variety is amazing but no one set will have everything he will need unless you are up in the huge dollar ranges. That Gearwrench set below is 1799.99 at Home Depot’s web site. The new HF Quinn set is a pretty decent bargain but you will be adding a lot to it.

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Capri or Tekton would be my choice for reasonably priced complete socket sets.

Harbor Freight would probably be the best bang for your buck though. If these tools are going to live at school, I wouldn't invest too much money into them as theft is likely.
 
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I'd buy individual sets to avoid useless fillers and hit different companies' better options.

I'm happy with my Tekton and Capri for the more budget minded but still good quality options.

Agree, some of the smaller more focused sets can save a bit of money, but there is a huge amount of redundancy and fluff in most of the larger sets I looked at.
 

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I'd worry first about a big socket set, then fill it out from there.

Tekton would be an excellent choice in terms of budget/quality tradeoffs. Williams isn't much more and is a step up IMO. Honestly though, while there is a difference between Husky and Nepros, the difference between cheap and premium sockets is smaller than other tools.

It might be worth spending a bit extra on ratchets. A nice ratchet can upgrade a cheap socket set. Maybe just use Tekton's pretty decent regular ratchets but upgrade for a flex, roto, XL or what have you?

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Where I wouldn't cheap out too much is pliers. Cheap pliers ****. Channellock is my go-to bargain pro brand. It's not like it's the only good brand - just that it hits a sweet spot for price and performance. You don't need to go too crazy all at once. 8" needlenose, 8" side cutters, 6" or 8" combination pliers and a 10" pair of straight-jaw pliers like the Channellock 440 - I bet there's already a set just like this. A huge bonus would be a 10" pliers wrench. The 909 wiring pliers are sure handy too.

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Screwdrivers - Wera maybe? They're good value. I prefer the Irazola-made Bahcos, but Wera is way cheaper and very high performing. Felo has a better handle shape (for me) and isn't much more. I see a 7pc set of Wera on sale for ~$29 regularly in Canada, that's hard to beat. There's also a 11 or 12 pc set that includes impact screwdrivers. That is probably better.

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The term complete set is unobtainable....haha.

I would start him off with something like craftsman or similar and he can build from there so you can build him up some quantity for the price but still be decent.. If he goes into the trades he can start buying better quality at that point and keep the other stuff for home use. My first "complete set" I got when I was about 17 and have now had it for 30 years (with a few pieces being replaced from warranty or loss). It was about a 200pc set and the sockets are still the ones I reach for most often. I did pick up a 300pc Craftsman set very cheap from a clearance deal and the quality had declined, the 3/8 ratchet retained the same model number but is notably smaller than its older counterpart.
 

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I wouldn't do a all-in-one set, too much fill and redundancy. And it's typically bottom shelf stuff.

I'd opt to buy a bit nicer ratchet or two. When I reach for a screwdriver 90% of the time it's a ratcheting one. Williams has a nice one thats not too bad. I also use my 7 and 10" Knipex Plier Wrenches quite a bit, maybe that could be a Christmas present.

Or a milwakee/dewalt starter kit.
 

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Need a couple hammers to start with too. A deadblow and a engineer's hammer. He'll need more later, but I would have trouble getting through a day without these.

I like the Nupla Powerdrive hammers. They're often rebranded for truck brands.
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Lots of different engineer hammer options. I used an Estwing for a long time that I liked - and it was cheap. I lost it and replaced it with something different, Titan I think. I don't remember exactly because I hated it and bought a Stanley anti-vibe instead. The Stanley is even better, but is more expensive. Were I shopping right now I think I would choose the OSCA 3 or 4 lb. It's beautiful.

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These might be a place to save the budget though - upgrade gifts for later dates perhaps. I remember the Titan I bought was like $11 for a two pack with a mini sledge. Super cheap. No reason your son couldn't get by with a cheap hammer to start.
 

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I'm trying to think of what else might be needed. A pick set no doubt. Mayhew is probably the best (rebrands for Snap-on). Ullman is cheaper and made in the USA (used to rebrand for Snap-on, but it's been quite a while). I'd want a hose pick in the set too.

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Pry bars - I might skimp here too. There's perfectly decent prybars to be had for cheap, including a set at Walmart that was the subject of a recent post. However, Mayhew is king of the mountain.
 

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Wrenches too!

A 6-32mm and 1/4- 1&1/4" set. Tekton would be a good choice. Honestly, I use my ratcheting wrenches 90%+ of the time. I'm not sure if you could get by without a regular set too though. E.g. sometimes you want to put the box end on a fastener and whack it with your dead blow.

Maybe it would be best to buy cheap Harbor Freight/Huskey regular wrenches to save budget for ratchet wrenches later? Or just go with a better brand like Tekton and let your son upgrade when he's ready.

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There's so many niche tools your son will end up wanting too. No set will be complete. You will kind of need to stop somewhere though or this will get expensive!

He'll want a pair of decent calipers. IGauging unless you have Mitutoyo money.

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A bolt cutter (I really like Knipex cobolts for small stuff).

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Hex and Torx keys... I use my T-handles or hex sockets. Way cheaper to go with keys though. Bondhus is best. Eklind is also great.

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What I suggest to anyone that asks about getting into the automotive trade is to find a basic mechanics set. It will have the basic tools to get the job done then add what you need as you progress. You can even find sets that come with a tool cart or tool box for a lot less than if you bought kit by kit. Tekton is one I would look at first as their stuff is good quality and some of it is US made, also you could go HF and when it breaks upgrade that tool to a better quality. This way your not spending the big coin at first and you may not use every tool in a set regularly.
 

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Home DIY and automotive work for me

I assembled my first large set from different Black Friday deals. Mostly Craftsman, but Kobalt too.
Worked well until I filled the small set of toolboxes I got with them. Bought a Husky 60" tool chest to hold everything.
I then started replacing socket sets and wrenches with Gearwrench and others as I upgraded.
Flex head (non-120 versions) gearwrenches have been amazing for places that ratchets can't reach.
I add specialty tools to the drawers only as I need them for a job.

Also check for any companies giving a student discount. Some places have a junior/starter mechanics set that is sold exclusively for students.
 

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Need a couple hammers to start with too. A deadblow and a engineer's hammer. He'll need more later, but I would have trouble getting through a day without these.

I like the Nupla Powerdrive hammers. They're often rebranded for truck brands.
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Lots of different engineer hammer options. I used an Estwing for a long time that I liked - and it was cheap. I lost it and replaced it with something different, Titan I think. I don't remember exactly because I hated it and bought a Stanley anti-vibe instead. The Stanley is even better, but is more expensive. Were I shopping right now I think I would choose the OSCA 3 or 4 lb. It's beautiful.

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These might be a place to save the budget though - upgrade gifts for later dates perhaps. I remember the Titan I bought was like $11 for a two pack with a mini sledge. Super cheap. No reason your son couldn't get by with a cheap hammer to start.
He said the kid wanted to work on cars, not high end electronics, come on now!
 

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Most colleges have a list of tools they want (require) the students to have. If I were you I would try to find that list. Id think someone at the school could get it for you, or if you can find one of the tool truck guys that visit the school they would be able to get you one.

I agree that if he is planning on doing this as a career then spend the extra for the pro brand tools. Students get a discount. They are pricey but its a 'buy once, cry once' type of thing. Good tools will last a lifetime. Cheaper tools are just a waste of money in the long run because eventually they are going to end up being replaced with better.
 

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join the student programs at the tool truck companies, keep in mind student plan usually is run through corporate or "business relations". Even box stores will negotiate if you have your student ID.

Nothing wrong with good used tools. I have some that are on the 3rd "lifetime".

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Sets are stupid.

You are underpaying for the most often used tools and overpaying for the rarely used tools.

It is the same with kitchen knives and many other things…
I think it depends on the definition of a set. A 3000pc set, yeah gonna have alot of filler and niche tools. I think a set for the 17 year old in a more simpler style like attached. With something like that you cannot buy a third of the items separately for the money. Throw in a nice starter screwdriver and pliers set and he's off to a good start. My buddys dad always had a hodge podge of tools and you had to hunt for what you needed. My buddy bought himself a starter set when he moved out. The next Christmas he bought his little brother one because he remembered what a pain he had. A decent organized basic set can go along way.


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Some of the very best tools are not the most expensive. For instance: IMHO the best flat wrenches I have ever used are Stahwille, reasonably priced. My favourite ratchets (and screwdrivers) are Wera - again, very good prices. I seldom go with tool truck choices, as you are paying a HUGE premium for what may not be a superior product (look for the open end wrench test thread on this site recently). A chain store upper/mid brand student starter kit would be a good place to start, but it takes some experience to decide what you may prefer yourself (i.e. your son) and the starter kit may be largely duplicated but reality is you often want or even need more than one of most tools.
 

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Make sure you get a list of the tools required. If you can, it's better to buy as you go. Your best bet is to buy smaller individual sets to avoid getting useless filler tools that boost the piece count. There isn't a single tool brand that is the best at making everything. I'd personally go with Tekton for basic stuff like wrenches and sockets.
 

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For the money, quality and equally as important customer service/warranty, I think this would be a fantastic foundation to build upon: https://www.tekton.com/mechanics-master-tool-bundle-bdl99901

As your son grows into a professional he can supplement or upgrade as needed.

Unfortunately it looks like a few pieces in that bundle are out of stock but it does lessen the price to $1200ish.
 

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I put together tool lists from various college autoshop programs doing the same thing, because for some strange reason OUR autoshop wouldn't put out a list - they had some reasong that had to do with student loans and requirements or they didn't want underprivileged kids to feel lef behind or somesuch.... saying "we have tools in our tool room you can use"... most were worn-out Harbor Freight or Tiawanic, with missing pieces, and broken stuff...

As Roger Waters said in "The Wall"... This will not do... Anyway, combined the list, and made sure what I had matched what they aggragately recommended... or required.

My first set I used professionally was one of those Craftsman Mechanics sets we got for whatever they went for in 1975 or so - good, solid, not SO expensive nor Tiawanic cheap. I think I figured out more recently that the SO SEP sets (using the above mentioned lists as a reference) would cost about the same in 2015 dollars as my C'man did in 1975 dollars, so (with that 50% discount) I figure it was a decent investment.
 
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My son turns 17 today and he will be taking his 2yr of Automotive next year and it appears he may continue in this field after high school. Looking to buy him a decent set of tools that will work for the time being. Looking for an all-in-one set if they still make them. Or do I need to buy sets individually in order to get a complete set?

Thank you!
I would check with his Instructor; he may have a connection to someone offering discounts to students.
 

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I would be inclined to let him figure out what tools he wants or needs. Or at least be much involved in the selection/buying process because it might be motivating and good learning experience.

I remember putting together tool kit for my self starting out as electronic tech and somehow it was much more fun to work on something with my own tools I had selected and bought. Like the kids say - I can, let me do it!
 

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. Like the kids say - I can, let me do it!
I have a 3 year old grandson who wants to do everything. We used to ask him ‘Would you like to do do it yourself?’, and he would reply ‘Self do it’ except he pronounced it ‘shelf’, so for some time he had the nickname Shelf.
 

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Check who he gets discounts with. Mac, Snap On, and Matco all offer discounts even to my under 18 students. We use Tekton for most of the tools in our carts, but you gotta be 18 for the student discount.
Snap On has WICKED good Friday deals, but not all tools are on the SEP site. Mac and Matco are pretty much 50% anything on their normal website.
 

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Buy him a regular quality and priced ratchet and wrench set and go from there.
Everyone i knew who went through the programs moved on ti something else. The friends I have who are mechanics have their own preferred tool brands. Usually its whatever is gas the most presence in their area.
No way would I be buying a 17 year old who hasn't even started yet a set or sets of expensive tools. Save that for the graduation gift and let him choose what he wants.
 

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Individual stuff so he doesn't end up with 500 apex bits.

*some* of the stuff from Horrible Fright is just fine. (Doyle dykes & duck bill pliers ferinstance)
Sunex (or Capri) sockets
ChannelLock slip joint pliers etc
Husky pro-series wrenches & GW wrenches
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Google complete tool set. The variety is amazing but no one set will have everything he will need unless you are up in the huge dollar ranges. That Gearwrench set below is 1799.99 at Home Depot’s web site. The new HF Quinn set is a pretty decent bargain but you will be adding a lot to it.

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The amount of sockets in those sets is just stupid. I've been a mechanic of over 40 years & don't have half that many.
 

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While I definitely appreciate you trying to get something nice for your son, the best idea might be to hold off and plan a little bit. Being a student, I imagine your son will probably have access to a lot of tools in school so he won't need his own full personal set right off the bat. Using the tools at school, he can also get a feel for what he actually uses and will need as he goes along.

I'm more of a hobbyist, not a professional mechanic, but I buy things separately and just choose the best option for that specific tool within my budget as I go along. Companies that make one particular type of tool really well can often be more specialized and might not have great coverage of other stuff.

The only real draw that I see to being a brand loyalist or buying a huge set from one place is that warranty service or replacement might be easier if it's all the same place. But people can go years or decades without breaking stuff so YMMV.

Depending upon what type of work you do, you might also want to do something like intentionally buy metric sockets from one company and imperial sockets from another so that they are easy to distinguish at a glance or by feel.

Most of those huge triple digit sets you see at Home Depot or Harbor Freight have some tools that don't work very well, some that you don't really need, or others that duplicate each other for no reason. Which can be ok to get you started if it's really cheap but figure that a lot of that stuff is probably going to get replaced or just sit and not be used.

Which brings us to another major point; storage and access. Someone working in a big garage bay will have a cabinet or set of drawers that is very different than a mobile mechanic working out of a truck or multiple pack-out boxes in a driveway. Having every tool in the same giant heavy plastic clamshell case (like most cheap kits do) isn't terribly practical for either scenario. Poorly organized tools make work far more difficult.
 

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I wish i still had the final pics but i did this for a family friend who was turning 18/graduating a few years ago. Found a 5 drawer Snap on top/road box and filled it with a mix of quality SO, Mac Sunnex, Tekton, Milwaukee etc tools.

There was enough to start but room to grow. Also the box was small enough to be able to move and transport, but large enough not to walk away.

I think I had more fun putting it together than actually handing over.

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Thank you, everyone, for your ideas and recommendations. I know the complete set is probably the wrong term to be using but I think most of you understand what I'm after.
My two cents?

Take a look on E Bay for used quality Wrench Sets...Most **** in Metri forn ication, now..So a good set of Metric Combos and/or OFFSET wrenches is in order.

Same with sockets.

A selection of FLEX HEAD ratchets....(variety of extensions/swivels)

A couple good breaker bars.

Selection of screwdrivers...

Hammers can be yard sale items..

GOOD PUNCH/CHISEL set...

FILES...

Even look on the CLASSIFIEDS here...several members (and I have purchased from a few) have FANTASTIC deals on gently used quality tools!

Good Luck!
 

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I'm trying to think of what else might be needed. A pick set no doubt. Mayhew is probably the best (rebrands for Snap-on). Ullman is cheaper and made in the USA (used to rebrand for Snap-on, but it's been quite a while). I'd want a hose pick in the set too.

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Pry bars - I might skimp here too. There's perfectly decent prybars to be had for cheap, including a set at Walmart that was the subject of a recent post. However, Mayhew is king of the mountain.



The Walmart prybars are made in USA and very nice. I think they have striking caps, too. I have both Walmart and Mayhew.
 

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My son turns 17 today and he will be taking his 2yr of Automotive next year and it appears he may continue in this field after high school. Looking to buy him a decent set of tools that will work for the time being. Looking for an all-in-one set if they still make them. Or do I need to buy sets individually in order to get a complete set?

Thank you!


The automotive program will likely have a list of required tools.
Use that for the framework to build his set off of. The trades schools mostly require students to being their own hardline tools. Thus, they provide a list of what is needed before classes begin. Getting that would be a great start for you, in this case.
 

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Main thing I remember about my high school tech experience? If I wanted to use my own tools they had to leave the shop at the end of each day. No lockable storage the box went back to my car.

Probably best to find out if something like that is in effect... could well automatically limit options. Maybe basics only? Would also have to imagine that chances for theft are higher then anyone would like to admit...

Tools? Plenty of fine options at the box stores... like Milwaukee pliers & screwdrivers are solid & available at nearly every home depot... husky... crescent.. most of the new craftsman at Lowes is fine. Duralast at autozone has been good to me... the new diehard steel at advance looks cool

None of that is going to break the wallet or be hard to replace if it grows legs.

Still, can't help but imagine he'll wind up with a blowmold socket and a hand carry box for everything else.
 
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