Compresses air plumbing

[rbadenjr]

Looking at plumbing compressed air through my garage and was wondering how some of y'all have done it. Was looking at the flexible hose kits from northern tool but they seem kind of pricy also thought about PVC.
Any thoughts and recommendations welcome
Thank you
Randy Baden Jr

 

[uncletater]

pvc would be the perfect choice

 

[Stuart in MN]

This subject comes up every couple of weeks - I would suggest doing a search. And no, PVC is not the perfect choice.

 

[uncletater]

Stuart
I was being a smart a$$.

Clearly this is a troll post.

If not...

someone that can't use the search, then PVC is simply natural selection.

 

[Wuaname]

I super glued the drinking straws from bk and threaded the ends.

 

[rbadenjr]

Ok thank you
I hadn't tried the search yet kind of new to this forum

 

[CNGsaves]

How old are you Jr ??? You want to make it to your next birthday ??

 

[rburke65]

Well rbadenjr, as far as an 'air deliverance' system goes, google TP Tools, as they have a great picture of a pipe layout you can adapt to your garage. When deciding on the actual pipe or tubing, that will depend on personal preference, your wallet, your time, your skill levels, etc. The 'plug and play' kits are very easy I am told. But what ever you use, DO NOT USE PVC!! Good luck. And before I forget, "Welcome to The Garage Journal"....... from Ohio!

 

[rbadenjr]

Rburke65
Thank you for the reply I have been in temporary workshops where we used heavy PVC for a quick solution I know it doesn't hold up to huge pressures I don't run over 120 that's why I asked about PVC. My biggest deal is price and I currently rent so a massive perminent plumbing isn't really feasible.
Thank you again for the reply and
Merry Christmas
Randy Baden Jr

 

[mikester]

Randy, the issue with PVC is it breaks down over time. When it bursts its not pretty. Especially if youre standing next to it.

 

[kd3pc]

rb

rent and on a budget? Then use two or three 25' hoses like we did years back...no NEED for pipe at all.

 

[jake00]

rb

rent and on a budget? Then use two or three 25' hoses like we did years back...no NEED for pipe at all.

This. Hell I've only got a 2 car garage and a 50ft hose goes anywhere I need it to

 

[rburke65]

Well if you are renting, the hoses sound like a deal to me. Sounds like you have your answer. For what are you using the compressed air?

 

[fsae0607]

Well rbadenjr, as far as an 'air deliverance' system goes, google TP Tools, as they have a great picture of a pipe layout you can adapt to your garage. When deciding on the actual pipe or tubing, that will depend on personal preference, your wallet, your time, your skill levels, etc. The 'plug and play' kits are very easy I am told. But what ever you use, DO NOT USE PVC!! Good luck. And before I forget, "Welcome to The Garage Journal"....... from Ohio!

Yes, print out the TP tools layout and make your own version for much less money. I used 1/2" black pipe and galvanized for my system, since I'm only plumbing a 2 car garage and my runs are short. If you go this route, make sure to use plenty of unions for servicing the system in the future. Copper is another popular choice.

 

[Loose Ctrl]

Looking at plumbing compressed air through my garage and was wondering how some of y'all have done it. Was looking at the flexible hose kits from northern tool but they seem kind of pricy also thought about PVC.
Any thoughts and recommendations welcome
Thank you
Randy Baden Jr

I'm new to this forum myself.All forums will give you the "use the search function first" deal.I understand why tho.

Anyway,to answer your question with my honest opinion,and not knowing your shop size or use,I would say black iron pipe.It's available at most places like lowes and home depot.All the shops I have worked in used black iron pipe with drops for air hose connections.The smaller shops I worked in had the compressor in the back corner with a manifold attached for air hoses.

 

[angrystroker]

pvc would be the perfect choice

NOT

 

[Stuart in MN]

It would be nice if a moderator could put links to some of the airline discussions into a sticky note to make it easier to reference new people to the topic. One problem with searching for previous discussions is the search function here doesn't recognize searches for words that are three letters or less (like PVC or air), so finding them can sometimes be a challenge.

On the other hand, there must be literally thousands of previous discussions on the topic, so if you simply look back a page or two chances are you'll find something.

 

[CNGsaves]

OP . . . that stands for Original Poster . . . . that's you Jr . . .

Use the Search / Advanced Search feature up in black line at top of website.

Also, can just use Google and dream up any search you want.

EXAMPLE:
. . . . . Search following with Google
PVC airline site:garagejournal.com


This will give you DAYS and DAYS of reading as to WHY you should NOT cheap out and put up **** pvc airline.


If you're renting, just spend $100 for RapidAir system that you can put up, and take down when you move, or just leave it.

Of course with proper planning, you could also build black pipe steel airline system that could be taken down when you move.

Couple airhoses and hose reel might be better match for your situation.

EDIT: You've been member since Jan 2012 . . . have you missed all those pvc threads ???

 

[Loose Ctrl]

It would be nice if a moderator could put links to some of the airline discussions into a sticky note to make it easier to reference new people to the topic. One problem with searching for previous discussions is the search function here doesn't recognize searches for words that are three letters or less (like PVC or air), so finding them can sometimes be a challenge.

On the other hand, there must be literally thousands of previous discussions on the topic, so if you simply look back a page or two chances are you'll find something.

I agree.


The advanced search function on google brings up quite a bit of useful info on this subject.This forum is VBulletin based, and there should be an add on google powered search bar for the forum,but that would be done at the forum software level.

 

[rweaver]

I am not advocating pvc by any means but I will say being a pipefitter and part time farmer I have been in a lot of farmers shops and they have pvc airlines that have been installed for 30 plus years with no problems.Just sayin

 

[Stuart in MN]

I am not advocating pvc by any means but I will say being a pipefitter and part time farmer I have been in a lot of farmers shops and they have pvc airlines that have been installed for 30 plus years with no problems.Just sayin

There are also many of us here who have personally seen PVC airlines that did fail.

 

[jwith68]

 

[Forsythe04]

I ran PVC (dont kill me). i drain the lines after each use and live in an area where there are not large swings of temperature. You being from Houston I'd prob skip the PVC due to the heat.

 

[CNGsaves]

^ ^ You have SUNLIGHT in West Virginia . . . . don't you ???

UV weakens PVC pretty quickly. The pressurizing, then de-pressurizing is also what kills PVC when ERRONEOUSLY using for airline system (which pvc was NOT designed to do).

Add in oils blown by the compressor into the pvc lines, you have a cocktail of FAILURE just waiting to happen.

When PVC blows, you'll get shrapnel just like an IED would spew it's payload.

Take out your Sawzall and cut that **** down . . . . seriously.

Blackpipe steel or copper are what SHOULD be used for airline systems. These are LIFETIME and SAFE airline systems.

The thinwall hybrid stuff like MaxLine or RapidAir is a low cost alternative but will never perform as well as BPS/copper at removing moisture.

 

[Forsythe04]

^ ^ You have SUNLIGHT in West Virginia . . . . don't you ???

UV weakens PVC pretty quickly. The pressurizing, then de-pressurizing is also what kills PVC when ERRONEOUSLY using for airline system (which pvc was NOT designed to do).

Add in oils blown by the compressor into the pvc lines, you have a cocktail of FAILURE just waiting to happen.

When PVC blows, you'll get shrapnel just like an IED would spew it's payload.

Take out your Sawzall and cut that **** down . . . . seriously.

Blackpipe steel or copper are what SHOULD be used for airline systems. These are LIFETIME and SAFE airline systems.

The thinwall hybrid stuff like MaxLine or RapidAir is a low cost alternative but will never perform as well as BPS/copper at removing moisture.

No sunlight in my garage but I get your argument.

 

[csp]

EDIT: You've been member since Jan 2012 . . . have you missed all those pvc threads ???

I was registered on this site for at least a year before I paid attention to it with any regularity, so it's entirely possible.

Holy cow folks, give the guy a break. Not everyone is a pro at internet forums.

 

[C96]

I ran PVC (dont kill me).

 

[600SL]

I've had PVC for over 20 years in my garage in CT. But after reading some of the data online and right on these forums I'm going with black pipe.

 

[rbadenjr]

Thanks for all the replys yes I've been a member got a while but stepped away for a long while and just coming back sorry to get everyone in a tizzy. Thank you for everyone's safety concern I've been around run away nitrogen bottles and high pressure hoses whipping not fun.
The reason I'm looking to do this is in my 2 stall garage I have a fixer upper in one stall and occasionally have coworkers cars I take car of so routing hoses gets to be a pain.
Thanks again guys and sorry I was nieve to the search
Randy Baden Jr

 

[vonhef]

That me me LOL... thanks for the humor.

 

[Forsythe04]

This is great! haha Well done!

 

[Wowzer893]

Could one use this as Air Line, i have an extra roll of it left over from when we did the floor, any one use it in there's?
http://www.homehardware.ca/en/rec/i...ex-Pipe/_/N-ntmaaZ1z141jj/Ne-ntc74/R-I3298185

From what i read, No to PVC, and Black pipe with threads is the way to go? is there any alternatives to black pipe someone would recommend if they didn't have the tools to do it?

 

[Stuart in MN]

And this is why people 'joke' posting about using PVC is a pain in the neck - It always leads to these big discussions which go nowhere.

 

[Stuart in MN]

Could one use this as Air Line, i have an extra roll of it left over from when we did the floor, any one use it in there's?

From what i read, No to PVC, and Black pipe with threads is the way to go? is there any alternatives to black pipe someone would recommend if they didn't have the tools to do it?

Copper is often used, as are the aluminum pipe systems from TP tools or other sources. There are also flexible plastic line systems. People often ask about using Pex meant for hydronic heat but the question there is if it's approved for this use or not.

 

[fsae0607]

Could one use this as Air Line, i have an extra roll of it left over from when we did the floor, any one use it in there's?
http://www.homehardware.ca/en/rec/i...ex-Pipe/_/N-ntmaaZ1z141jj/Ne-ntc74/R-I3298185

From what i read, No to PVC, and Black pipe with threads is the way to go? is there any alternatives to black pipe someone would recommend if they didn't have the tools to do it?

Use black pipe; you only need a few pipe wrenches to install, and if you need you can have the store you buy the pipe at make a custom length pipe if you need it for a reasonable fee (free sometimes). In my 2-car, I was able to use the available ******* and pipe lines in stock. Yes, all the fittings and pipe adds up, but as was mentioned, it's a lifetime system and it's safe.

You could use copper, too but you need to learn to sweat pipe. It's not that hard and kind of fun!

 

[malbojah]

I ran PVC (dont kill me).

Can't kill you because I'm been doing the same thing in my shed for the past 8 years with no leaks (yet).

i drain the lines after each use and live in an area where there are not large swings of temperature.

Well, you can kill me for that one because I leave mine pressurized all the time.