Compression - Show Off Your Compressor

[Sanctifier]

Thanks ,
The drill press is a JET JDP-17MF / 354169 Drill Press , great unit and works very well with steel. I normally drill 1/4" - 1 1/8" thick steel wih it and works great.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00004T9L0/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Really nice. No way I could afford a new Jet on my Workshop upgrade buget.
Just too much equipment and tools to buy... So many tools... So few $$$!

A new 20" VS drill-press costs $2,000-4,500 US... x 6.35 for $TT.
e.g. over here, a JET 20" VS drill-press = $42,000 TT with VAT (tax.)
Even a used Clausing on eBay is $1950.00 US. Still too "rich" for my blood.

Bought a "demo" Turn Pro 20" variable speed... the one ENCO sells for $2000.


Couldn't resist... Paid... [drum-roll]... $500.00 US
BRAND SPANKIN' NEW!... Yup, miracles still happen.

 

[HacksawsGarage]

They ran me off TBN when I teamed up with Doc to start www.forumsforums.com . They said that if you wanted to say anything that was political to go somewere else, so we started our own site. They didn't like the fact that a lot of TBN people joined our fun place and were sharing there time between sites. I stayed away for a while and did ask to come back, but they never responded. If they don't want me, I can live with that. It is there loss, not mine. There are a lot of good websites out there, and this is one of them. Come on over and visit at our www.forumsforums.com and see if it is for you. We allow politics and a whole lot of other subjects, and we don't have any of the politically correct moderator mentality to harass you. We welcome all types of people with lots of different opinions. If you join, just put Junkman in the referral slot. I am the Senior Moderator, so you know what that means..... Nothing but good fun.

well, i can understand the feeling. i have been banned from jockey journal, why, i dont know. the administrator, ryan?, never told me why and to this day refuses to answer any inquirey on the subject. its really fustrating despite my efforts to convince myself i dont care.

 

[bmwpower]

Finally got a new compressor (new to me). It's a mix of manufacturers, but seems to work well. I've yet to get any tools on it since I don't have a regulator or filter, but I finally completed the installation and pressurized it up. Supply line from the head to the tank is temporary. Waiting for some bigger tubing...(thanks Herb)...and a better way to bend it...

Anyway, specs are as follows:

Quincy QR-25 pressure lubricated pump, model 216, single stage (10.7CFM)
80 gallon IR tank (again, thanks Herb)
3 HP, 240v TEFC motor
Quincy belt guard
IR auto drain (once I hook it up)

Pump is older than me (1965), but was rebuilt 8 years ago...should be good for another 20 or so years.

 

[Steve in Mi]

I finally completed the installation and pressurized it up.

Great and probably better than most offerings available today. I used an old 1947 DeVilbiss 3 HP 2 stage for years and my neighbor continues to use it today. I think maybe a new 220V drop in conduit from the ceiling might be in order, unless you can navigate in one of the walls.

Interesting detail in your cement floor around the overhead door track - I'd like to see more.

 

[bmwpower]

Great and probably better than most offerings available today. I used an old 1947 DeVilbiss 3 HP 2 stage for years and my neighbor continues to use it today. I think maybe a new 220V drop in conduit from the ceiling might be in order, unless you can navigate in one of the walls.

Interesting detail in your cement floor around the overhead door track - I'd like to see more.

Thanks. Yea, I'm going to probably run conduit down the ledge coming from the left (the panel is ~25 feet to the left. I figure I'll come out from under the panel and run it down to the compressor. I want to run bigger wire (#8 or bigger) in case I upgrade the compressor someday. Running the wire through the wall, although my first choice, I'm not sure I feel like taking on such a project right now - too much work. The compressor "area" was to be between the doors, but I opted to stick this one over in the corner to see how I liked it (out of the way). I think it will stay here.

The floor near the doors drops down about 3/4" to an apron. This keeps the water out of the garage. Nothing fancy really. Somewhat common around here.

 

[Steve in Mi]

The floor near the doors drops down about 3/4" to an apron. This keeps the water out of the garage. Nothing fancy really. Somewhat common around here.

If you build a trench for water inside the door then the water will come in that far, right? I have a ~3/4" drop in elevation and then a taper downward skirt but the drop is at the outside edge of the door bottom not behind (inside) it. I would guess that you experience some freezing of your door seal to the floor unless you don't get freezing temperatures. I used a piece of 1-1/2" pipe across the door opening to maintain a straight line and make the transition in elevation. Any future builds will have a better thermobreak directly below the door sill.

 

[chad pickens]

I wanted to show off my new toy. I got the compressor of my dreams. I watched ebay for about 3 months. Then found this c/h extreme series 10hp 4 cylinder 2 stage 120 gallon tank compressor, luckily it has the cast iron made in USA pump. The good part is the guy who bought this didnt know it was 3ø so he paid an electrician to put a brand new baldor 10 hp 1ø motor on it. The compressor has very little time on it. I got it with the contactor and all for 787.77 it pumps up very fast , kicks on at 140 and shuts off at 175that takes about 90 seconds. It shure is alot quieter than that old craftsman I had.That is not my garage in the pic Im not quite done with that yet.

 

[Nightshift]

Just adding mine to the collection here boys. A 2-stage industrial unit. Surprisingly quiet running for unit this large. Sits on hockey pucks, but not bolted thru to the floor (never moves). Auto-drain on the tank. I lowered the pressure from 175, so now it kicks in @ 125 and out @ 150.

Output goes first thru a short hydraulic flex hose, then into 1" iron pipe ... first vertical for 10', then sloped downhill for another 30', then into 1/2" iron pipe for another 30'. Hose reel and outlets at the filter/reg/oiler are overhead and about 60' from the compressor. I've never seen any water there at all ... or in the drain downleg at the farthest end for that matter.

 

[bmwpower]

Just adding mine to the collection here boys. A 2-stage industrial unit. Surprisingly quiet running for unit this large. Sits on hockey pucks, but not bolted thru to the floor (never moves). Auto-drain on the tank. I lowered the pressure from 175, so now it kicks in @ 125 and out @ 150.

Output goes first thru a short hydraulic flex hose, then into 1" iron pipe ... first vertical for 10', then sloped downhill for another 30', then into 1/2" iron pipe for another 30'. Hose reel and outlets at the filter/reg/oiler are overhead and about 60' from the compressor. I've never seen any water there at all ... or in the drain downleg at the farthest end for that matter.

Cool. You may want to put a drain leg before or after that flex hose or change it's orientation. Water will collect at the bend of the hose.

 

[Nightshift]

Cool. You may want to put a drain leg before or after that flex hose or change it's orientation. Water will collect at the bend of the hose.

Thanks for the suggestion. When I installed the 1" pipe, I forgot to have that 10' vertical piece shortened by a couple feet so it's inlet was higher than the outlet on the tank. One of these days, I'm going to take it off and shorten it to eliminate that "trap" the flex hose creates.

 

[Nightshift]

Cool. You may want to put a drain leg before or after that flex hose or change it's orientation. Water will collect at the bend of the hose.

Well, thanks to bmwpower's prompting ... I finally got off my *** today and decided to fix the "water trap" in my flex hose. I cut 24" off the 1" vertical pipe, rethreaded the end and reconnected the flex hose. I'm annoyed at myself for not doing this when I first installed it ... took all of 30 minutes!

Thanks again bmwpower for the push ...

 

[bmwpower]

Well, thanks to bmwpower's prompting ... I finally got off my *** today and decided to fix the "water trap" in my flex hose. I cut 24" off the 1" vertical pipe, rethreaded the end and reconnected the flex hose. I'm annoyed at myself for not doing this when I first installed it ... took all of 30 minutes!

Thanks again bmwpower for the push ...

No problem. That's what we're here for!

Now if I just off my *** and actually started to pipe my system...

 

[russlaferrera]

This is my little 2hp, Quincy 310, with a 60 gal tank. I have it since the mid 70s. It still runs strong.

 

[winks2]

Here's the compressor I decided on... I love it! I don't have a filter yet, however I don't have any other air tools yet either, besides a tire chuck and a blow gun.

 

[dragginbalz]

I guess I will finally post mine (even though it is dusty as heck)

Eaton 220V single stage 80gal
I love it. I was spraying some primer with a Sata KLC HVLP primer gun and the compressor not only kept up when I was spraying it also continues to build pressure and actually shut off a few times. (while constantly spraying) I was impressed!

 

[dragginbalz]

 

[Itzkwik]

IR 5hp/80gal. Still need to run the air lines and wire it to the disconnect.

 

[enginerd]

What have others been doing for the compressor feet mounts for something like the IR- SS5L5?

The hockey puck thing is interesting, although they will be prone to crack over time i'd think. That rubber vulcanizes and becomes brittle.

Mcmaster sells these, and it lists air compressors as an application. PN: 6423K611

$25/ea, 1/2-13 thread, it'll take 600lbs (so total of 2400max with 4), and it has a good temperature working range (-20 to 225F).

And if you want overkill, they also have these isolators available, over twice the load capability, and twice the price. Same neoprene bonded between steel plates.

 

[Nightshift]

What have others been doing for the compressor feet mounts for something like the IR- SS5L5?

The hockey puck thing is interesting, although they will be prone to crack over time i'd think. That rubber vulcanizes and becomes brittle.

Well enginerd ... I've been using hockey pucks under my compressor for about 35 years. I think during that time, I did put fresh ones under it one time about 20 years ago when I moved and in the process, the short lag bolts holding them on got pulled off.

I can assure everyone they are very effective, cost nothing (if you don't have some, check with any neighbourhood kid who plays hockey and they'll have a bag full), and in spite of what you might think, they last probably longer than you want them to!

 

[RWD]

Here's my Speedaire 30 gal compressor I picked up a few weeks ago. It's kinda old but is in good condition. I haven't run it in 2 weeks and it still has 135 lbs in it. It is fairly quiet which is the main reason I bought it instead of a new, oil-less compressor. I HATE noise, lol.
Bob

 

[enginerd]

Well enginerd ... I've been using hockey pucks under my compressor for about 35 years. I think during that time, I did put fresh ones under it one time about 20 years ago when I moved and in the process, the short lag bolts holding them one got pulled off.

Interesting. Maybe the pucks in Canada are better quality

Thanks for the info, much appreciated.

We'll probably try one of these mounts from Mcmaster, cheap enough to try, and they should offer a bit more isolation than the pucks.

We're going to have over a hundred pieces of NHL memorabilia in the upstairs garage lounge, so it should take care of the hockey content lol (car stuff will be kept to the other major garage areas, in the showroom/shop, along with all the model displays/etc). Car stuff might get priority though, hockey stuff might make the move into the basement. But with 12ft high ceiling in the 2nd floor lounge, we might have enough space for it all.

 

[Wiggawam]

My new to me compressor, still have to rewire a new 220 outlet for it and do up some copper now that prices are dropping. 80 gallons of nice 18.4 cfm @ 90 psi. Forgive the mess the garage got invaded for a bit so stuff had to be piled up.

 

[phantomdaz]

80 Gallon 2 stage in the Attic with a remote air filter mounted outside = very quiet.

How is the noise with that thing running in the attic?
I am thinking on doing the same thing but was wondering if it would be too loud

 

[WolverineCoatings]

Holy **** this is a long thread...

I just read the WHOLE thing!!!

Thanks guys... I learned a lot from this. I especially liked the pics of the hard piping and the ideas for getting rid of water in the lines. I just have a 175 Craftsman right now... maybe I'll get something cool enough to post pics of one day... lol

 

[G M]

How is the noise with that thing running in the attic?
I am thinking on doing the same thing but was wondering if it would be too loud

Not noisy at all. I built little rubber and foam pads for it to mount on. I think most people would expect it to cause resonance and vibration being up there, I suspected it might but that way too but it is not the case at all. I have the air intake routed outside, that alone cuts down on half the noise. I have since enclosed it more and added ceiling tiles to the side of the enclosure since they are a more fireproof material and help absorb sound better then drywall. The way I see it is the only way you are gonna have a quieter compressor is if you put it outside. Just for reference since half of it doesnt show this is a 6hp 80 gallon two stage.

 

[Powerband]

I recently traded a 30 Gal oil lubed compressor for a unit that was in a friend's 3 bay gas Staion. :

My shop is on inside wall of attached storage area. I need info on the unloader setup. I don't think it's working. The continuous duty "3 HP" motor needed an engine cherry picker to pick up - not quite like the sewing machine size "5 HP" motor on the little one I traded...



Powerband l

 

[Nightshift]

Nice find Powerband. Ya, you got a real motor now .. 16 amp on 220v is a great 3 hp! I know what you mean ... I have a similar one and they are heavy ... especially to lift that high. Both my motor and pump have eye bolts which makes it real easy to lift from.

 

[locomike]

Here is my 3 phase Champion compressor that my uncle left me when I bought the garage off him. More then I will ever need. It used to run the whole place when it was a machine shop.

 

[christmas]

A really long thread. I read all of the "Bunker" thread yesterday so I skipped to the end of this one.
I piped lines from my compressor in the basement when I built the house 10 years ago. It is in a room for the compressor and the electrical subpanel. It is enclosed and insulated so little noise escapes, out of my way, and stays warm. Piped in PVC so I can easily tap for more drops.
Compressor is oil-free which I wouldn't recommend because of it's noise.

 

[cvmikeray]

Newbie to this forum but here is my setup with an Air Dryer and Silencer
U5 - 1 (1 being the inlet side)
http://www.nciweb.net/universalsilencers/u5.htm
Paid about $135.00 for the silencer at Ingersol Rand Dealer. My be cheaper from this site. Should be able to get one that will fit any compressor. 90% of the noise of a comprssor is on the inlet.

Makes it quite. I will move the whole unit outside eventually but will leave the silencer on it to be nice to the neighbors . The hard lines and IR filters are great also.

 

[87GN]

Here's my IR.

 

[87GN]

oops- wrong picture. Here's my IR.

 

[V-10 Killer]

Here's my IR.

You might have to pop the hood to show us the compressor on that one

 

[87GN]

You might have to pop the hood to show us the compressor on that one

Here's the other air compressor

 

[Miltons Bells]

The attic installation is a great use of garage space.

 

[HacksawsGarage]

indeed it is.

 

[scotty t]

Not a big one, but it's perfect for my needs.

man your garage is cleaner than the emergency room where i got my last stitches where is the dirt, rust, scale, junk parts, old cars, mud and mosquitoes. looks real nice!!

 

[Down Under Bloke]

I’m almost in the market for a new compressor and was wondering about the merits of single versus dual stage compressors.

I had a quick look at a dual stage compressor and from memory it achieved higher out PSI than the singles. Also the dual stage had a better quality air filter and seems to run slower (bigger pump pulley) than the single stages, would this asst with inlet noise reduction. My logic is if the pump is turning slower and the relative pressures on the reed valve exposed to the atmosphere is lower then the noise may be lower?

 

[kochevnik]

Haven't seen anybody with anything like mine - so here's my contribution.

The compressor is a Hydrovane 10 PUTS. It's a rotary vane compressor - should last about 100,000 hours before failure. I spent a month or two searching for one of these - almost bought a new one but delivery was too far out. Hydrovanes come from the factory with a 10 year, 48,000 hour warranty, that should give some idea of the quality involved.

When I looked for a compressor, I needed three things - it had to last forever, it had to be QUIET, and it had to put out enough air to run my milling machine (100 psi 7 CFM).

This one runs at 65 db - about as noisy as a dishwasher. $1100 used - not cheap, but I expect I will be dead before it will.

I put it on a cart I got from Lowes for $70 - I can haul it anywhere I want.

It doesn't have an air tank because rotary vane compressors run continuously at 100 percent of capacity.

 

[Charles (in GA)]

It doesn't have an air tank because rotary vane compressors run continuously at 100 percent of capacity.

Which is exactly why you don't seen anyone using one. In an industrial setting with continuous air consumption, they are great, but in a home garage setting, having to crank up one to blow up the kids basketball, or service the tire pressure on the family car, is kind crazy.

To walk out to the shop and fire up the compressor and let it run the whole time you are in the shop, just in case you need air, must be real expensive electricity wise.

Charles