Compressor info needed

[Xmoonstompx]

Just won this Quincy 30g air compressor on a auction site. Sight unseen. No clue if it is in working condition, etc. Are there common issues/things to check out? Notice anything abnromal? First real compressor and I can't find much info online. So far Ill be into it right around $300.
thanks!

 

[Xmoonstompx]

 

[Heavymetalmechanic]

Can you post an image of the compressed pump data plate?

It looks simulate to my Quincy model 214.

 

[The Cobbler]

the motor is 3 phase ...

 

[Xmoonstompx]

Here are the pics I have of the plates. I just got them from the site.

 

[niferous]

Not sure about common problems but here is the manual for the Quincy 210. I can tell you from my experience with buying an air compressor at auction, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I tore in to mine to tune it up and I should have just ran it as is. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.revbase.com/tt/sl.ashx%3Fsd%3Dfalse%26cd%3Dattachment%26DataID%3D225911%26fileID%3D2004274%26AdminID%3D1302%26z%3D770f6bb8&ved=0CCUQFjAAahUKEwj_5qKSvpHJAhWML4gKHZv8Af0&usg=AFQjCNEndLQ-w0GTVEgenoVzhCij9Y9PcQ&sig2=jJwZQQ8trKKZav4APMkIlQ

 

[Heavymetalmechanic]

I agree on the model 210. Pull the belt off it and disconnect the pump outlet pipe. Turn the pump over by hand, it should make a sort of farting noise if the valves are seating well.

Unless you have 3 phase power you will need a new motor.

 

[Xmoonstompx]

Not sure about common problems but here is the manual for the Quincy 210. I can tell you from my experience with buying an air compressor at auction, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I tore in to mine to tune it up and I should have just ran it as is. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...EgenoVzhCij9Y9PcQ&sig2=jJwZQQ8trKKZav4APMkIlQ

Thanks for the link!

 

[Xmoonstompx]

I agree on the model 210. Pull the belt off it and disconnect the pump outlet pipe. Turn the pump over by hand, it should make a sort of farting noise if the valves are seating well.

Unless you have 3 phase power you will need a new motor.

Thanks for the tip. I'll try that after I go pick it up. And I'll call around for a single phase motor.

 

[The Cobbler]

there's some plumbing missing on it .

 

[redmondjp]

On the pump ID plate, that "105" number in the upper RH corner is the Record Of Change (ROC) number - this is a very important number that you will need, should you need any parts for the unit. For ordering pump parts, you tell them Model 210 ROC 105 (serial number not as important).

I agree with the above - if it's not broke, don't fix it. Looks like you have an aftercooler mounted on the belt guard as well - is it plumbed in still?

 

[930dreamer]

The tank is only 8 years old, did you get more than one?

 

[Xmoonstompx]

On the pump ID plate, that "105" number in the upper RH corner is the Record Of Change (ROC) number - this is a very important number that you will need, should you need any parts for the unit. For ordering pump parts, you tell them Model 210 ROC 105 (serial number not as important).

I agree with the above - if it's not broke, don't fix it. Looks like you have an aftercooler mounted on the belt guard as well - is it plumbed in still?

Good to know, thanks.
I'm not sure on the aftercooler. Haven't even seen it in person. Hoping to pick it up this week.

 

[Xmoonstompx]

The tank is only 8 years old, did you get more than one?

I was bidding on a few but was worried I was getting in over my head haha. From the pics this seemed to be in the best shape other than a small Speed Air that went for more than I wanted to pay.

 

[Xmoonstompx]

This is going to be a dumb question but does anyone have a idea on what something like this would weigh? Trying to figure out the best way to get it home...

 

[evintho]

Probably a couple hundred pounds. A cherry picker, cheap HF ratchet straps and a pickup truck are your friends.

 

[ctjohnson]

This is going to be a dumb question but does anyone have a idea on what something like this would weigh? Trying to figure out the best way to get it home...

I have a similar sized compressor (but with a gas engine) and it weighs at least 500 pounds.

 

[On-Wheel]

I bet over 300.Or close .A portable gantry to lift it, to back a trailer/truck under it.That would be easiest for one person load/unloading.There bulky and top heavy so you could remove pump and motor for man handling it.Good luck!

Says 290 here https://www.mi-air.com/Products/PDFs/Reciprocating-Compressors/QR.aspx
Put Quincy QR 210 in google search to find info.Dont forget using QR.

 

[redmondjp]

This is going to be a dumb question but does anyone have a idea on what something like this would weigh? Trying to figure out the best way to get it home...

My Quincy brochure indicates a weight of 290 pounds with the 30-gallon horizontal tank.

For your info, here are some specs on the unit:

With a 1HP motor spinning the pump at 440rpm, the unit puts out 3.3 ACFM @ 100psi. So this is an HVAC system controls air supply unit (low and slow, designed to run forever but not a lot of CFM). Pressure control set at 80psi ON and 100psi OFF.

Equipped with a 1.5HP motor spinning the pump at 691rpm, it will put out 4.8 ACFM @ 100psi.

Using a 2HP motor at a maximum pump RPM of 1000, it will put out 6.34 ACFM @ 100psi.

You can download the Quincy QR-25 brochure fof the internet that has all of the pump and compressor specifications.

 

[CNGsaves]

Nice score OP !!

I'd recommend a trailer with flop down gate to haul it. Whole lot easier to roll up the ramp . . . no lifting involved, so less risk of damage falling over.

BRING: > > > > 2x4's . . . plywood . . . moving dollys . . . . screws . . . lag bolts . . . . cordless screwdriver . . . . ratchet straps . . . bungee cords . . come-a-long . . . prybar . . . . floorjack . . . . tools

OR . . . even better solution is have auction company lift up on pallet (appears it may be already) and screw it down to pallet/secure. Then all you'd need is Pallet Jack to roll on and off trailer.

+1 to pursue single phase motor (unless you have 3 phase power). If you do change motor, might check into "overdriving" the compressor a bit to provide more CFM . . . . thus more HP single phase motor and/or change pulley sizes.

 

[theoldwizard1]

Using a 2HP motor at a maximum pump RPM of 1000, it will put out 6.34 ACFM @ 100psi.

I would go for a 2 HP motor. That 3 phase Baldor should bring some good $$$ on CL !

 

[redmondjp]

I would go for a 2 HP motor. That 3 phase Baldor should bring some good $$$ on CL !

Even a 3HP, still with the pump at 1000rpm, would work as well - so keep an eye out for that size motor also.

 

[TXNinAZ]

Just did the exact thing on an Emglo. 145T 5 hp motors are generally all 3450 rpm, which your pump won't like unless you get a tiny pulley. If the mounting plate is pre-drilled for 184T motors, I'd recommend that route. Can get a Baldor 5hp/1725 rpm for $350 shipped on eBay. Then hit up your local electric supply place for an appropriate pulley. Chances are, Quincy used that exact tank and pump with a 5hp motor, so you can find out exactly what pulley size to get, what belt length you'll need, and how much air you'll get out of it. You'll also likely need a new mag starter if you go for 5hp. PM me if you have questions- it's fresh on my mind.

 

[MacMcMacmac]

Get the QR25 literature from Quincy. That will tell you everything you need to know about the motor and rpm range it is good for.

There is no way in hell you are going to get 5hp worth of air out of a 210.

EDIT: Looks like 1.5hp is the most it is designed for. Tis is also a single stage compressor so don't expect much more than 100-110 psi out of it.

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=...85.pdf&usg=AFQjCNEt2n-hVPn6tlhoxK_Byirt7-tLFw

 

[redmondjp]

Get the QR25 literature from Quincy. That will tell you everything you need to know about the motor and rpm range it is good for.

There is no way in hell you are going to get 5hp worth of air out of a 210.

EDIT: Looks like 1.5hp is the most it is designed for. Tis is also a single stage compressor so don't expect much more than 100-110 psi out of it.

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=...85.pdf&usg=AFQjCNEt2n-hVPn6tlhoxK_Byirt7-tLFw

Agreed - there is no point in a 5HP motor, unless one comes across one for the right price.

If you read the QR-25 brochure, in the specifications section for the pumps (and not the complete compressors), it lists the maximum pump RPM of 1000 using a 2HP motor (even though Quincy didn't offer a complete compressor using this high of an RPM with the 210 pump). So either a 2 or 3HP motor would work fine at 1000rpm. And there won't be any issue running the pressure up to 125psi, if desired - just a change in the control setpoint.

 

[Xmoonstompx]

Thanks for all the info guys.
Picked it up today, they loaded it in with a fork lift so now all I have to worry about is getting it out..
Taking the motor off tonight and dropping it off a a local electric motor shop to see if they can test it.

 

[Xmoonstompx]