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MackMan

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Hi All,
I have this Kobalt 80 gal 3 cyl single stage compressor. I want to put Amsoil compressor oil in it, but have to order the oil and can't find capacity anywhere in the owner's manual, they just say fill until it's full.

Any ideas what the capacity is?
 

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A couple of thoughts, if it isn't new, you should get a pretty good idea by draining what's in there.

If it is brand spanking new and shipped with no oil in it, consider this. I am not a mechanical engineer but I have heard from more than one that synthetic oil is great, but not to break in a new motor. Something about the pistons and valves not seating properly.

My Honda generator I wanted to change the oil as soon as I took it out of the dealer, stating I wanted to get a good synthetic in there as well as get rid of the oil that could have contaminants or fine metal particles from the build process.

They suggested not to change the oil citing that many new engines get a good cleaning when they come off the assembly bench, these issues should not exist today. AND, they stated that their Honda Engines as well as other engine brands use special oil additives for the first oil that helps for break in.

All this to say that in the past I have been advised on multiple occasions (car included) that as great as Synthetic is, you should only use it once you get to the first scheduled oil change.

I somehow see this sparking a lot of controversy but honestly, do you think using regular oil for the first change would do irreparable damage?
 
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Thanks for the response (incidentally I am a mechanical engineer, and have heard exactly the same that you mention) The compressor is not new, I have no idea how long the oil that's in it has been in there. The issue I have is that for Amsoil I'd have to mail-order it (I'm a dealer), and I'd rather not drain it then have to figure out how much oil to order. I suppose I could just swap it for cheapo Lowes oil to get an idea how much it takes then change it again in a few months. I was just surprised they didn't say in the manual.
 

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Don't be a sissy and worry about oil. Put that Amsoil in if you got it and although it don't use but a quart of so go for 2. You can use the Lowes too, its about like the oil in your car, all the stuff is so good but on a lightly used machine a change with the synthetic may be good for the life of the unit.
 

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All this to say that in the past I have been advised on multiple occasions (car included) that as great as Synthetic is, you should only use it once you get to the first scheduled oil change.

I somehow see this sparking a lot of controversy but honestly, do you think using regular oil for the first change would do irreparable damage?
A dumb *** 6 pack fueled retarded mechanic can tell you it doesn't make much difference, the thing is a fukkin piece of steel, are you goint to hurt it ... do irrepairable damage buy running a oil designed and rated for it?? WTF they teach in engineering classes about simple logic?
 
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If it is brand spanking new and shipped with no oil in it, consider this. I am not a mechanical engineer but I have heard from more than one that synthetic oil is great, but not to break in a new motor. Something about the pistons and valves not seating properly.
on a car perhaps, but it's fine on a compressor, the main thing is not to use the junk oil shipped with it

My Honda generator I wanted to change the oil as soon as I took it out of the dealer, stating I wanted to get a good synthetic in there as well as get rid of the oil that could have contaminants or fine metal particles from the build process.
that is true on your Chinese or Indian pump compressor, not on a Honda engine

They suggested not to change the oil citing that many new engines get a good cleaning when they come off the assembly bench, these issues should not exist today. AND, they stated that their Honda Engines as well as other engine brands use special oil additives for the first oil that helps for break in.
the machining on a compressor is much less precise than a Honda generator or car, and a lot of particles will show up in the oil almost immediately

All this to say that in the past I have been advised on multiple occasions (car included) that as great as Synthetic is, you should only use it once you get to the first scheduled oil change.
true on a car, not on a compressor

I somehow see this sparking a lot of controversy but honestly, do you think using regular oil for the first change would do irreparable damage?
on a compressor you ideally want to change the oil after the first 3 minutes or so of operation (just long enough to get the cylinder hot) and get that junk Chinese oil out and a good synthetic in.

also - regardless of what some **** in here may say, oil level is critical in any type of engine, you do not want it underfilled nor overfilled. The pump will likely have an oil sight glass, fill it until oil is at the middle of the sight glass. If there is truly no sight glass (rare) then there will be some type of dipstick or check bolt you remove and then you fill until oil runs out of the bolt hole. The manual will cover how to check the oil level and fill correctly.
 
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Don't be a sissy and worry about oil. Put that Amsoil in if you got it and although it don't use but a quart of so go for 2. You can use the Lowes too, its about like the oil in your car, all the stuff is so good but on a lightly used machine a change with the synthetic may be good for the life of the unit.

That's my thought exactly. So I should be safe if I order 2 qts?
 

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I am continually amazed by the amount of people that think their car or comp has feelings. Id don't know squat from synthetic or dino and in the end the owner or operator will never be able to tell. As long as its not full of water and has oil its good to go. I have seen comps with 30 yr old oil run like new.
Mine runs daily, several cycles. Did a 10 yr change on it a while back.
 

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synthetic oils last much longer and perform far better in the cold, great for people who sometimes get busy with other things and don't change their oil on time!

also any compressor or generator or vehicle that will be used in very cold weather should have synthetic oil, as the low temp viscosity is great whereas a typical dino oil will be molasses when the temps are below zero.
 
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