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Concrete Flooring Questions

coffdaddy

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I am in the process of having a 50x50 shop built. I need help in choosing a sealing, painting, or covering to cover the concrete floor. This a Hobby shop with a Car Lift planned in it. I Will be in it 2 or 3 afternoons per week. Located in Southern Kentucky. One small room will be a woodworking shop. Very litttle if any welding ever. No Radiant floor heat. Using ductless mini-split for heating and cooling. Any suggestions?

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Leave it bare. Keep it clean. What you will have is: 1) No peeling 2) No lifting 3) No hundreds of dollars of "why did I do that?" 4) A nice looking concrete floor.
My shop is a working shop. I weld, I grind, I spray paint, I drop stuff, I roll heavy things around on metal casters. I spill gas and oil and brake fluid and numerous other chemicals. I don't worry about "nicking the floor"... It's a concrete floor, not the Sistene Chapel. If you plan to do ANY serious work out there a "pretty" floor is not going to survive... This is just my opinion mind you but, you really need to decide WHAT you are going to do in your shop. Work, Party or worry about chipping the floor... :)
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Leave it bare. Keep it clean. What you will have is: 1) No peeling 2) No lifting 3) No hundreds of dollars of "why did I do that?" 4) A nice looking concrete floor.
My shop is a working shop. I weld, I grind, I spray paint, I drop stuff, I roll heavy things around on metal casters. I spill gas and oil and brake fluid and numerous other chemicals. I don't worry about "nicking the floor"... It's a concrete floor, not the Sistene Chapel. If you plan to do ANY serious work out there a "pretty" floor is not going to survive... This is just my opinion mind you but, you really need to decide WHAT you are going to do in your shop. Work, Party or worry about chipping the floor... :)
Mark

In A LOT of cases this is actually PERFECT for a working garage. I would just use some densifier and penetrating stain guard. You don't even know its there until you have to clean something up :)
 
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In A LOT of cases this is actually PERFECT for a working garage. I would just use some densifier and penetrating stain guard. You don't even know its there until you have to clean something up :)

Yes, that would make sense. Something to keep stains out would be nice. My floor was laid in '85 and has not had an easy life. The only thing that keeps stains out now are the other stains. :) I have friends who "tried" to beautify their floors one way or the other and after a short time they look much worse then mine...
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I just built a 1000sf race shop/garage. I'm seeing that to put epoxy on it the cost will be $3 to $5.25 per sq ft (based on what I've seen on the GJF).

All the epoxied floor look so nice. But then I'm getting suggestion to leave it alone so I won't experience peeling and lifting and worry about chipping the nice floor.

Then I get a suggestion to apply some "densifier and penetrating stain guard" and apparently not worry about epoxying it.

I'm getting confused and I don't think I've gotten to the point of overthinking (yet!) what to do.
 

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Take every opinion with a grain of salt. Most peel stories start with poor preparation, conveniently left out. A well prepared floor using quality epoxy/urethane materials is a very sound and HD floor.

Consider your usage/traffic, consider your needs and do some research.
 

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I just built a 1000sf race shop/garage. I'm seeing that to put epoxy on it the cost will be $3 to $5.25 per sq ft (based on what I've seen on the GJF).

All the epoxied floor look so nice. But then I'm getting suggestion to leave it alone so I won't experience peeling and lifting and worry about chipping the nice floor.

Then I get a suggestion to apply some "densifier and penetrating stain guard" and apparently not worry about epoxying it.

I'm getting confused and I don't think I've gotten to the point of overthinking (yet!) what to do.

Each and every application is different. A lot of it depends on what you need and what you want and how you are using your floor. If you are in it for the aesthetics a coated floor can be beautiful, when properly selected applied.

There are also many here on the Forum and elsewhere who could really care less, they like the look of bare concrete but they want to protect it. That is where densifiers and stain blockers come in. ESPECIALLY if there is a lot of welding going on and they do not want to protect the floor -- that was the case in the post I quoted in my second reply.

There are a ton of coating failures that get posted and talked about. This is true. Like Scotty said, a lot of it has to do with preparation and application. Coatings fail for other reasons too, generally not the coatings fault. Moisture issues, improper mixing, you name it. That said, I can't prove it but if you added up everything else (tiles, mats, etc) I don't think it would hold a candle to the number of coatings jobs.

Technology is also changing. We have seen testimonial after testimonial on the Rust Bullet product. Long term and short term. It's not a high build epoxy and will never replace that market, but it is a very easy system that has proven itself in industrial, commercial and DIY applications w/o grinding or etching. All that to say, we use 'epoxy' in a generic way and there are other coatings.

At the end of the day it comes down to the same question we ask everyone who wants a recommendation. How do you use your garage.... shop ... building and what are we trying to accomplish.
 

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Leave it bare. Keep it clean. What you will have is: 1) No peeling 2) No lifting 3) No hundreds of dollars of "why did I do that?" 4) A nice looking concrete floor.
My shop is a working shop. I weld, I grind, I spray paint, I drop stuff, I roll heavy things around on metal casters. I spill gas and oil and brake fluid and numerous other chemicals. I don't worry about "nicking the floor"... It's a concrete floor, not the Sistene Chapel. If you plan to do ANY serious work out there a "pretty" floor is not going to survive... This is just my opinion mind you but, you really need to decide WHAT you are going to do in your shop. Work, Party or worry about chipping the floor... :)
Mark

^^^:thumbup: I really do like the look of the epoxy, but I'd be afraid to mess it up with all the work I do (besides not in the budget right now). I can look at stains on the floor in my old garage under the house and recall some of the crazy jobs I had to do.;) Brake cleaner dissolves the oil & grease and whatever residue remains adds to the character of the floor.
 

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I can look at stains on the floor in my old garage under the house and recall some of the crazy jobs I had to do. Brake cleaner dissolves the oil & grease and whatever residue remains adds to the character of the floor.

Haha.... I had a floor like that once! Looked like some crazy grease monkey artist tried to use it for his canvas. It had character alright.
 
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