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Roughly how many wheel barrows loads in a yard of concrete?


I want to pour a 10 x 10 floor for my shed and can't get closer than 150'. I think 6 friends/ relatives with wheel barrows would be enough to keep everything moving and not be overwhelming.

Am I on the right track?
 
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Holedgr

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Manly wheelbarrows? Or realistic loads that your average uy could handle??

Bank on 15 or so...

Whats the path like? Condition of wheelbarrows?

6 guys would be overkill...
 

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About 15-18 depending on how full you make them. You are going to pay a premium for 1.2 yards. Is it practicle to mix and pour at the site?
 

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Ayuh,.... a standard contractor's wheelbarrow is 6 cubic feet,...

A yard is 27 cu.ft....

how thick is yer pad gonna be,..?? 4",..??
Any footers,..??

as noted, build a rollin' path outa whatever ya got layin' 'round,...
planks, plywood, whatever,...
 

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6 guys on the wheelbarrows or 6 guys total?
I'd say 6 on wheelbarrows would be plenty without overworking them. Always nice to have extra hands even if just to clean off tools, wash out wheel barrows and deliver drinks.
For a 10'x10' shed you might consider mixing your own. Especially if you could truck the sand/gravel in closer.
 

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It's not the wheel borrows to worry about, it's the mixing! To make good concrete you need to mix it well, which is not that easy when it starts out dry and heavy. Might be a different story if you have a mixer.
 
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It's a 10 x 10 slab. The path is mostly driveway. And plywood sheets the rest of the way. The drive has old clay sewer pipes a foot or less below the asphalt. I don't want to damage it.

I have a coworker who drives a mixer on his off days.

I just don't want another wooden floor. Last one rotted, and was home to many rodents. I want something more durable this time.
 

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I do not know the building codes in your area. In our state when you pour a concrete floor the building becomes a permanent structure and is subject to TAX and additional building codes.
 

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Roughly how many wheel barrows loads in a yard of concrete?


I want to pour a 10 x 10 floor for my shed and can't get closer than 150'. I think 6 friends/ relatives with wheel barrows would be enough to keep everything moving and not be overwhelming.

Am I on the right track?

Unless you have 10 wheel barrows and 20 guys that will kill you.

In your case I'd rent a couple of Georgia Buggies to transport the concrete.
 

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Roughly how many wheel barrows loads in a yard of concrete?


I want to pour a 10 x 10 floor for my shed and can't get closer than 150'. I think 6 friends/ relatives with wheel barrows would be enough to keep everything moving and not be overwhelming.

Am I on the right track?

That's nothing. 6 guys will be overkill. Myself and one other guy wheeled a 25 x 40 pad inside a restaurant reno a couple years back. It was over 200' to the site from truck. Took 3 hours.
 

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I'm with others... mix on site.

For a 10'x10' slab I'd just rent a small gas-powered tow-behind mixer and roll it up right near the slab site. Then you can work at a reasonable pace and not be rushed on the trowelling or brooming or be tempted to add water during those steps. That's how I poured the 10'x10', 6" thick pad for the hot tub at my previous home. Wound up buying about 80 bags of concrete (80 lbs. each) and had a bit left over when done. Did it with one friend. Kicked our butts but got it done pretty quickly. Accumulated the bags of concrete by stopping on the way home each day with the truck. Forms were built beforehand, conduit laid for electrical, rebar, etc.

If you're going to wheelbarrow it, and your friends/family don't do physical labor on a regular basis... NO ONE WHEEL WHEELBARROWS! Buy some good 2-wheel ones so you don't wind up with massive spills.
 
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the two wheel wheelbarrows are pretty nice for this type of thing!

And 6 guys for a couple yards is not that difficult, even at 150' away. I did worse last year and I'm 45. Just make sure everyone wears gloves and rubber boots so nobody gets blisters or concrete burns.
 

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I just finish a 2yd pour by myself, 70' and a 16' uphill ramp. took 45min and I'm 56. If 6 guys with wheelbarrows can't do that pour in 1/2 hour they need their mancards punched permanently. Mixing onsite is one way to go, but hauling and mixing a yard and a quarter is way more work.
 

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There's a few variables, but 6 capable people with decent wheel-barrow's should kill it.

As a concretor that has wheeled more concrete over stupid terrain than he cares to remember, there are a few things to consider:

- 10'x10' is nothing. With 6 'barrows, you'll knock it over in no time.

- Ensure the wheeled route is clear. Run over it with a shovel or mattock and be sure to knock-over and fill-in any significant humps and hollows.

- Not sure how it is in the US, but here in Australia, concrete companies charge minimum cartage fees (concrete ordered/delivered under a certain cubic amount will incur additional charges).) They have also been known to charge waiting time. If they're on-site for more than 30 minutes (depends on cubic metres carried), they charge extra.

The above is only of real concern if money is a factor. It might be cheaper to have materials delivered and mix it on site, but that will consume time. If access for trucks of any size is a problem (which it sounds like it might be), the truck plus 6 'barrows from 100' away is probably the quicker/wiser solution.
 

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My rule is I use a grout pump for anything over a yard.

Don't you have any other concrete projects you want to add? :)

By the time you buy a few good wheelbarrows, plywood and beer, you could cover the cost of the pump.

Down here, some of our drymix trucks have their own pump. Mainly used for pool construction, but it can be used for other projects as well.
 

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Ayuh,.... a standard contractor's wheelbarrow is 6 cubic feet,...

A yard is 27 cu.ft....

how thick is yer pad gonna be,..?? 4",..??
Any footers,..??

as noted, build a rollin' path outa whatever ya got layin' 'round,...
planks, plywood, whatever,...

Average weight for concrete is around 140 lbs/cuft, so a 6 cuft load would be around 840lbs. Better plan on a few more trips.

When I was younger and dumber, we poured 2 1/2 yards for a basement floor through a window with 5 gallon buckets. that makes your wheelbarrow job sound like a piece of cake.
 

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I did the same as DWM when I did my storage shed. rented an electric mixer and bought bags of cement at menards or homedepot when it was on sale. Was easy to mix a few bags at a time and then pour it into the form. If I did my math right a 10x10x4 should be 40, 80# bags.(80# bag should yield .84 cuft. 10x10x4 = 33 cuft. 33/.84 = 39.2 bags.) At 3.65 a bag that's 150 bucks plus the mixer rental.

for reference 80# 4000psi mix.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Quikrete-80-lb-Concrete-Mix-110180/100318511#specifications
 

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Why are you not looking at getting one of those trailers that you borrow that they put the concrete in when you buy it from them.
Back the whole works in and dump it. It should be ok over the ground with the pipes espically if you lay the plywood over where the pipes are

Bob
 
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