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TBoone

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I am interested in staining and coating my floor similar to what stores like Fred Meyer or other stores have done to stain and then coat their slab floors. I have searched but not sure I have found what I am looking for. This seems like the best option for me as I have epoxy painted (grey) previous garage floors and have always found them easy to damage. My theory is the stained and clear coated( not sure on procedure) will show less marks from jackstands, floor jack, welding spatter etc thus lasting longer. I would be trying to achieve a brownish color.

Looking for info on the actual process, products, thoughts on my theory etc.

Any input on this would be great!
 
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Everything you need can be purchased from a fertilizer/hardware store..... but you will spend alot of time finding the right "mix" but will shave alot of cash.... take the money you saved and buy a good sealer from Legacy
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copper sulfate- blue
copper sulfate with salt- Green
Iron sulfate- tan to dark brow (depending on how strong mixed)

mix these with water and let it soak to stain the concrete..... you can also add muriatic (hydrochloric) acid to etch the concrete at the same time!

experiment befor you go and try to do your whole floor!
 
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For a one time thing I would def. recommend finding a stain supplier instead of trying to make your own. The R&D is already done so all you would have to do is find the color you are interested in.

I have used Concrete Coating's acid stains before and I like them a lot. Butterfield Color and Brickform also have good quality stains. You can also check out your local Sherwin Williams, they sell acid stains and dyes.
 
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TBoone said:
I am interested in staining and coating my floor similar to what stores like Fred Meyer or other stores have done to stain and then coat their slab floors. I have searched but not sure I have found what I am looking for. This seems like the best option for me as I have epoxy painted (grey) previous garage floors and have always found them easy to damage. My theory is the stained and clear coated( not sure on procedure) will show less marks from jackstands, floor jack, welding spatter etc thus lasting longer. I would be trying to achieve a brownish color.

Looking for info on the actual process, products, thoughts on my theory etc.

Any input on this would be great!
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Please, let us know what you end up doing and PICS:thumbup:
....maybe interested in doing this as well:confused:
 
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I dont mean to hijack this thread but, I was planning on installing VCT because it was cheap and easy, and I wasnt sure an epoxy floor would last (peeling etc) I had no idea about concrete staining though. I am very interested actually, the stain and sealer looks to be cheaper than VCT and it doesnt need to be polished all the time. I'd love some more information about it as well; how well prepped does my floor need to be? and can I just fill in cracks with quick cement before I stain it or will that look bad?

Matt
 
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Used H & C products Semi-transparent water based stain on a new garage floor last
week and was real happy with how it turned out and the ease of application. Started
with 4 to 1 ratio, then 2 to 1, then 1 to 1, then full strength. Used a pump up sprayer
to apply the stain. Used their Cardinal Red. Next day rolled on two coats of clear solvent
based sealer and it really made the color pop. Concrete was 60 days old, never sealed
and absorbed the stain easily. Next time I do this I will skip the 4 to 1 ratio. The area
we did was 18' x 26' and took 3.5 gallons of stain and about 3 gallons of sealer.
 
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Red05GT said:
Used H & C products Semi-transparent water based stain on a new garage floor last
week and was real happy with how it turned out and the ease of application. Started
with 4 to 1 ratio, then 2 to 1, then 1 to 1, then full strength. Used a pump up sprayer
to apply the stain. Used their Cardinal Red. Next day rolled on two coats of clear solvent
based sealer and it really made the color pop. Concrete was 60 days old, never sealed
and absorbed the stain easily. Next time I do this I will skip the 4 to 1 ratio. The area
we did was 18' x 26' and took 3.5 gallons of stain and about 3 gallons of sealer.
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Pictures or your telling lies -:)
 
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LegacyIndustrial said:
Kyle:

What ever happened with your floor?
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not wanting to steal the thread, I will post an update in my "sandy concrete" thread once I get something on it.

....long story short, seems to be ok ,like a 9 out of 10 for hardness,
but went on vacation, hurt my back, etc.,
back to deciding what to put down on florr again:lol_hitti
 
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That is the look I am after. Still looking for durability feedback if anyone has it though.

I will have to post up a thread once I get back to work on the garage instead of stuff inside it, so April possibly.
 
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Scotty,

I see from your website that the third photo is of a floor with just the sealer. What would I haev to do to achieve the look of the floors in the first and second photos. Can I use your easy stain and then use your easy sealer ?

Thanks !!
 
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Tony B said:
Scotty,

I see from your website that the third photo is of a floor with just the sealer. What would I haev to do to achieve the look of the floors in the first and second photos. Can I use your easy stain and then use your easy sealer ?

Thanks !!
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Tony:

The first and second shots are raw concrete. The concrete was old and probably had the red tint from the raw materials used to make it years ago.

That floor has (2) coats of HD-356VOC Urethane Sealer on it.

If you want to duplicate the look I would use acid stain or concrete dye.
Then apply the sealer coats.
 
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So Scotty . . . thanks for your presence on the forum and your professional advice . . . :)

Can you give a little more info on your company's HD-356VOC Urethane Sealer . . . like, would it be your choice for a garage floor that will see both physical and chemical abuse: floor jacks and jack stands, dropped tools and parts, gas/oil/brake fluid??? How does it stand up to these "working shop" occurances?

Thanks so much. Like many guys here, I am impressed by the look of well-paddled (lots of power trowelling), stained/dyed concrete with a beautiful gloss "sealer". It seems to promise easy care, beauty and durability. But what can we realistically expect from concrete that's been treated this way and then subjected to typical shop use?

Thanks so much!!

Randy
 
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Sea Ranch said:
So Scotty . . . thanks for your presence on the forum and your professional advice . . . :)

Can you give a little more info on your company's HD-356VOC Urethane Sealer . . . like, would it be your choice for a garage floor that will see both physical and chemical abuse: floor jacks and jack stands, dropped tools and parts, gas/oil/brake fluid??? How does it stand up to these "working shop" occurances?

Thanks so much. Like many guys here, I am impressed by the look of well-paddled, stained/dyed concrete with a beautiful gloss "sealer". It seems to promise easy care, beauty and durability. But what can we realistically expect from concrete that's been treated this way and then subjected to typical shop use?

Thanks so much!!

Randy
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This!:thumbup:
 
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Very good with solvents (gas, av gas, kerosene, etc...) and abuse.
For maximum effect and lasting ability I would start with a primer coat of our Standard Clear Epoxy Sealer. This will be a great base for the HD356VOC.

You can expect to have to keep it clean and repair damage as it occurs. Like your car finish, it will only hold up as well as you maintain it.

It will not hold up to hot slag or dragging sharp objects across it.
 
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Much thanks, Scotty. When I get closer to pouring concrete, I will call your company for the extra details. :thumbup:

Randy
 
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TRY TALKING TO JOHN LOPEZ AT CONCRETE EARTH www.concreteearth.com

They have one of the best lineups of color infusion dyes you might find. A dye may work better than a stain as it is less topical, you definitely want to open the surface of the concrete up with either a resin pad grind out or maybe a good etch and I am not necessarily talking about muratic acid.

We have done it all and seen it all. Find more guys going with coloring floors than previous

Joe
Tri State Structural
LW Concrete
 
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