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Conval Co. Expansiv-e brace bit. Interesting stamping error.

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Private Lugnutz

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Bizarre, and completely baffling.

The baffling part is what makes it so intriguing. I have to say I have never seen multiple seemingly unrelated brands on any tool before. I have seen multiple brands on tools in situations where it makes sense - such as Whitman & Barnes and Williams, Westcott and Keystone, and even some where it is a little strange, such as Kent-Moore and K.R. Wilson, who competed in the same military specialty tools market. And multiple logos where one is a forge mark (e.g., the circle-B Bonney, or the diamond-H Herbrand) and one is the brand (e.g., Bethlehem Spark Plug Company, Ford, etc).

But this Expansive Bit is crazy.

"CONVAL" is Connecticut Valley, by the way, and they owned the patent (1,056,670).

My bet would be that the "B.H. & M. Co." is Bridgeport Hardware and Manufacturing, and, if you don't know it, "Blue Grass" was a brand used by Belknap Hardware, which made some of its own in-house tools (mainly cutlery or farm implement related) and contracted out the rest. They would not have the capability to make these bits, and if the "Blue Grass" and "B.H. & M. Co" is together, my bet would be that was their supplier for this piece.

I suppose I can see a history in which it was made by one OEM (let's say, CONVAL) but supplied by another (let's say, Bridgeport), or, made by Bridgeport for CONVAL. Those two stamps would not be that strange.

Off the top of my head, I don't know what "H.S.B. CO." is, and I have no idea why there is a CRAFTSMAN stamp on it as well.

EDIT: H.S.B. Co. is Hibbard, Spencer, Bartlett, another hardware store line!

I suppose it's possible it got re-sold as NOS to another retailer (i.e., re-branded), and apparently another after that, without ever touching an actual user's hands.

If it was mine I would be googling the heck out of a few the terms together in different combinations hoping to find a connection.

Or, as you guys suggested, someone having fun with die stamps. But where would he get them?
 
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Mine with the broken tip only seems to have one stamp. I’ll give it a closer look later today. Another of that brand was found in a military carpenter’s toolset.
-Don
 

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I feel like the manufacturer provided bits for all those brands and would have had the equipment to stamp each with it's respective logo. All the other examples I can find are stamped a single time.
 

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I feel like the manufacturer provided bits for all those brands and would have had the equipment to stamp each with it's respective logo. All the other examples I can find are stamped a single time.
This indeed makes the most sense as being the "most probable" solution. I also suspect it might have been an employee having a little fun at the factory. Or it might be as Roberts210 suggested that it was part of an employee's training exercise.

I think it's kind of a shame that the tool collecting community seems not to have much interest in "mint errors" like they do in coin collecting (or other collectibles like toys). There are coin collectors who specialize in errors. It could start a whole new category of tool collecting that would be fascinating and a lot of fun, especially since it wouldn't be bound by having to complete a partial set of sockets from some 1920s tool kit or something like that--any make or model would be open game. Perhaps it's that the overarching perspective in the tool field is that tools are used to fix things, and so the errors are simply seen as something 'broken' that needs 'fixing', and so defective and inferior.

In any event, it might be that OP's bit has enough going for it that it could demand a premium on the market--a rare exception to the predominant 'errors are just inferior defective product' viewpoint.
 

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This indeed makes the most sense as being the "most probable" solution. I also suspect it might have been an employee having a little fun at the factory. Or it might be as Roberts210 suggested that it was part of an employee's training exercise.

I think it's kind of a shame that the tool collecting community seems not to have much interest in "mint errors" like they do in coin collecting (or other collectibles like toys). There are coin collectors who specialize in errors. It could start a whole new category of tool collecting that would be fascinating and a lot of fun, especially since it wouldn't be bound by having to complete a partial set of sockets from some 1920s tool kit or something like that--any make or model would be open game. Perhaps it's that the overarching perspective in the tool field is that tools are used to fix things, and so the errors are simply seen as something 'broken' that needs 'fixing', and so defective and inferior.

In any event, it might be that OP's bit has enough going for it that it could demand a premium on the market--a rare exception to the predominant 'errors are just inferior defective product' viewpoint.

In that case you should especially appreciate the error on these wrenches.:bounce:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7636272&highlight=buy+vowel#post7636272
-Don
 
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