Jeff
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Channellock 424
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toolmaker1
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Called "battery pliers" I believe. They are pretty handy for many tasks.
AZ_Catskinner
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Those are actually called ignition pliers. Handy as all hell, even though their intended purpose has gone the way of the dodo.
osborn.ozzy
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I see no wrench 
buffalobill
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what were the original purpose of these? i have a similar set from craftsman, i love them, but have never used them for "ignition" purposes, and i even have a set of points to adjust on my atc 110.
Same goes for the bag of "ignition wrenches" i have from craftsman. what the hell are these used for? i have set points, and replaced condensers, coils, caps, rotors, etc. What were these little pliers and wrenches used for that is so specialized?
Same goes for the bag of "ignition wrenches" i have from craftsman. what the hell are these used for? i have set points, and replaced condensers, coils, caps, rotors, etc. What were these little pliers and wrenches used for that is so specialized?
Outlawmws
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Anything that uses numbered machine screws uses these sizes. while called "ignition" wrenches, and the like automotively, that is simply because that is the most common place to find that sized fastener, in a vehicle. is the points, coil, and alternator/generator (and Regulator). back in the day there was no standard accepted for primary coil wire fasteners an they also used some different sizes from make to make.
In electronics tech work you see a lot more use if these sizes, especially for custom or limited production use. Not so much for consumer electronics anymore.
theoldwizard1
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Battery pliers are the next size up from the ones the OP is showing.
G1GRANDEUR
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I have Snap-on version. I don't know why I bought it, never used it. 
airbuff101
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I remember the 424G as the Mighty midget.
They are excellent small pliers and superior to most "ignition" pliers of similar size.
I just gave my son a set in NOS condition from years ago.
Aside from a few items that they import, Channelock has held fast against the Asian onslaught and i admire them for that.
The don't make anything but Excellent, top shelf stuff.
I've been a fan of German pliers for 25 years but the folks in Meadville have been doing it right for many decades.
airbuff
They are excellent small pliers and superior to most "ignition" pliers of similar size.
I just gave my son a set in NOS condition from years ago.
Aside from a few items that they import, Channelock has held fast against the Asian onslaught and i admire them for that.
The don't make anything but Excellent, top shelf stuff.
I've been a fan of German pliers for 25 years but the folks in Meadville have been doing it right for many decades.
airbuff
You might be surprised at what you can do with a pair of ignition pliers and a decent pocket screwdriver. The weakness of a small screwdriver is torque, grab the blade with the pliers and you have plenty of torque. Back in my serious junk hunting days I carried both in my pocket to open up stuff and see whats inside.
Bruce Lancaster
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One of those ignition pliers, a "decent pocket screwdriver", and a decent pocketknife are in my opinion a FAR better pocket toolkit than any of the leatherman type multi tools.
Handier knife, better screwdriver, real forged pliers, and all tools can be used independently andwithout the deformed and clunky handle that a multitool makes. And with good choices this stuff may actually be less of a lump in your pocket...
By the way, those ignition type pliers once came in a considerable range of small sizes... if you look around you can find some an inch or so bigger than most but still small and light enough for the pocket.
A good pocket screwdriver is hard to find...the common clip-on types are a bit too small in blade width for most things. An ideal one would be a reversible with small handle, maybe 3/16 or 1/4 straight blade, and a small phillips...
It should have a real shaft, not a socket for bits, because half of its use will be prying scraping, stabbing, etc., the real roles of a traight screwdriver in a post-slotted screw world.
Handier knife, better screwdriver, real forged pliers, and all tools can be used independently andwithout the deformed and clunky handle that a multitool makes. And with good choices this stuff may actually be less of a lump in your pocket...
By the way, those ignition type pliers once came in a considerable range of small sizes... if you look around you can find some an inch or so bigger than most but still small and light enough for the pocket.
A good pocket screwdriver is hard to find...the common clip-on types are a bit too small in blade width for most things. An ideal one would be a reversible with small handle, maybe 3/16 or 1/4 straight blade, and a small phillips...
It should have a real shaft, not a socket for bits, because half of its use will be prying scraping, stabbing, etc., the real roles of a traight screwdriver in a post-slotted screw world.
HandyManny
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I've always thought so. For pliers Channellock are mostly what I've always owned and used. Whenever I need a new plier it's Channellock that I seek out first.