Copper Tubing Handbook

[rinny_tin_tin]

In researching material spec and performance for copper pipe to be used in my compressed air distr sys, I came across this excellent link and publication - for free download. If you ever need to work with copper pipe, I recommend you download this and keep it in your file for ref.

http://www.copper.org/publications/pub_list/pdf/copper_tube_handbook.pdf

 

[LoneGunman]

Thanks, great link. Not sure how big your garage is, mine is only a single, from reading on here I learned you need "x" amount of copper tubing to turn the water vapor into a liquid that your filter can remove, unless of course you have the money for a dryer, I did not.

I copied someone on here, from my compressor I have a hydraulic hose (for vibration) that goes to my 3/4" copper tubing. The tubing starts around 4' high, with a bunch of 90's and 3' lengths of tubing I ran it back and forth until I had 20' in a 4' area. The copper ends a few inches above the floor where it goes into a drain valve then back up to 3' or so to where my regulator/filter is.

I spray a lot of ceramic coatings and powder coat, absolutely zero moisture problems.

You may want to check out SurplusCenter for hydraulic hoses if you need them, or other materials, best price by far. They also have a lot of other stuff, with your backround you'd have a blast in there.

 

[72chevy]

Great link. Thanks

 

[rinny_tin_tin]

Thanks, great link. Not sure how big your garage is, mine is only a single, from reading on here I learned you need "x" amount of copper tubing to turn the water vapor into a liquid that your filter can remove, unless of course you have the money for a dryer, I did not.

I copied someone on here, from my compressor I have a hydraulic hose (for vibration) that goes to my 3/4" copper tubing. The tubing starts around 4' high, with a bunch of 90's and 3' lengths of tubing I ran it back and forth until I had 20' in a 4' area. The copper ends a few inches above the floor where it goes into a drain valve then back up to 3' or so to where my regulator/filter is.

I spray a lot of ceramic coatings and powder coat, absolutely zero moisture problems.

You may want to check out SurplusCenter for hydraulic hoses if you need them, or other materials, best price by far. They also have a lot of other stuff, with your backround you'd have a blast in there.

Roger that - will do and check out the Surplus center - thanks for lead. My new garage is a 4-bayer with high ceiling see pix Quick back of envelope calcs (P1V1/T1=P2V2/T2, Vapor Pressure Tables etc) show that humid gas will quickly lose heat running in 1-inch ASTM B8 Type K Cu tubing and thus pull most all the water out of the gas before it even reaches the 20-foot ceiling mark because of the volume increase alone - w/o even considering thermal transfer factors. If I judiciously use dog legs, slope my run, provide debris/water traps, etc.. should eliminate water vapor w/o need for desiccant/dryer. Will look into flex hose next!

 

[AZAV8]

Rinny,
I've used this handbook for years in my work as a mechanical engineer. Thanks for posting for everyone. Its good to see you guys putting in copper for your compressed air systems and NOT plastic sprinkler pipe.

You are on the right track on eliminating moisture in your system. And by using copper, you won't end up with the rust you get from steel pipe!

Phil

 

[Charles (in GA)]

I've posted the link to the Copper Tube Handbook a few times (well, more than a few) but usually in air compressor piping discussions. It is good to get it here where it will not dissappear for quite a while.

Charles

 

[rinny_tin_tin]

I've posted the link to the Copper Tube Handbook a few times (well, more than a few) but usually in air compressor piping discussions. It is good to get it here where it will not dissappear for quite a while.

Charles

It would be nice if this board had a library of such items - maybe a library of links perhaps to get around copyright concerns, etc

 

[wyndycity]

It would be nice if this board had a library of such items - maybe a library of links perhaps to get around copyright concerns, etc

I agree, a library would be nice.

Considering that you mentioned the copyright aspect, it's true that it's probably safer for us members to not jeopardize ourselves and the hosts of this great forum by potentially posting copyrighted material.

A collection of links would be a start as we wouldn't be hosting the material but there's nothing that annoys me more than broken links which I see a lot of when looking back at old posts with old ebay auction links.

I would suggest this http://www.pdf-search-engine.com/

Just type in a topic and see what kinds of PDFs come up. You'll have to sift through some **** but there is hope, for example, I typed in "copper tubing" and lo and behold, the first thing that shows up is the PDF from this thread.

Give it a shot and share any interesting findings with us!

 

[rinny_tin_tin]

I agree, a library would be nice.

Considering that you mentioned the copyright aspect, it's true that it's probably safer for us members to not jeopardize ourselves and the hosts of this great forum by potentially posting copyrighted material.

A collection of links would be a start as we wouldn't be hosting the material but there's nothing that annoys me more than broken links which I see a lot of when looking back at old posts with old ebay auction links.

I would suggest this http://www.pdf-search-engine.com/

Just type in a topic and see what kinds of PDFs come up. You'll have to sift through some **** but there is hope, for example, I typed in "copper tubing" and lo and behold, the first thing that shows up is the PDF from this thread.

Give it a shot and share any interesting findings with us!

Wow -- a good find and another good research tool. It makes sense that a good filter spec to help separate the help wheat from the chaff is the pdf criterion. Bookmarked!

 

[porschedude996TT]

It would be nice if this board had a library of such items - maybe a library of links perhaps to get around copyright concerns, etc

I second that! Mods are you listening?

These types of links are most valuable. I would hope that someday the NEC and UPC and others would make available these publications for free.

 

[AZAV8]

I second that! Mods are you listening?

These types of links are most valuable. I would hope that someday the NEC and UPC and others would make available these publications for free.

There is NO chance the NFPA and IAPMO (publishers of the NEC and UPC respectively) will ever make their Codes available for free. The fees are the way they finance the Codes and their operations. It is very expensive to develope, maintain and update a national consensus code.

Phil

 

[rinny_tin_tin]

There is NO chance the NFPA and IAPMO (publishers of the NEC and UPC respectively) will ever make their Codes available for free. The fees are the way they finance the Codes and their operations. It is very expensive to develope, maintain and update a national consensus code.

Phil

Need to look at the SBCCI v. Veeck case in the 4th circuit where the court ruled that if a standard is incorporated by reference into statute, then that code must be made available to the public free of charge (in a nutshell). Of course, this has whipped the NFPA, IEEE, and all the other SDOs into a frenzy - since as you say, their business model presumes the majority of revenue from the sales of standards.

I like Veeck!

 

[Torque1st]

Some cities are making building codes available as PDFs nowadays. They are locked down non-copyable PDF files tho. I have not found the NEC that way tho,