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Rusty67

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I'm looking at geting a 1/2" cordless impact driver. I'm looking around and the best one seems to be the Milwaukee 28v but it is also a bit pricey. I'm planning on using it in the junkyards to take parts off of some 60-70s F100s. I'm wondering if I really need an impact or if I can get away with a big braker bar and a can or two of liquid wrench.

Which cordless impacts would you guys recomend ?

Think I really need one ?
 
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I have the 18v dewalt 1/2 impact driver and use it every time I go to the junk yard.
yes you want (need) one!
your not going to stop a 28v milwaukee.
I keep mine in the truck and use it when changing tires on the road.
wish I could have one for every vehicle instead of the lug wrench.
 
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I'm also leaning towards geting one that uses lithium batteries as I've been reading up on it and those seem to be the way to go.

Any other brands/models available ?
 

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If you want the best 1/2 drive cordless impact money can buy, throw the money at the Snap on CT4850HO. It's not cheap but, I have seen it out perform the other brands mentioned in this thread. This is one Snap on tool that trully is the standard by which other models are measured against. There's a neat video showing the Snap on against the IR IQV cordless, the IR gets smoked. I'm not a Snap on or nothing kind of tool user but, Snap on has the best 1/2 drive cordless impact.:beer:
Search the archives as, cordless impacts have been discusssed before.
 

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I bought the corded HF 1/2 impact, with the plan that away from home I can use a small 12v battery (UPS sized) with an inverter.
 
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The Snap-on one is nice but its way above my budget for a tool like this. I think I wanted to cap my expense on this around 350 which is why I didn't pull the trigger on the Milwaukee 28v setup.
 

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I have the Snap-On 1/2" Cordless Impact, an a CP one. Not even close enough to make any sort of comparison. My Snap-On one has never failed me on anything, and I've given it some tough tests for sure. Absolutely worth every penny.
 

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My vote goes for the Snap On CT4850HO. You won't find a stronger cordless impact wrench than this one, I rarely break out the air impact anymore! :thumbup:
 

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Just checked the snap-on site

Impact Wrench, Cordless, 18 Volt, Slide-on Battery, 1/2" Drive (U.S.)

Stock#: CT4850HO
$529.95
 

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There is a 3/8" version of the Snap-On, too for $400. CT4410. I don't know if that has the torque you need for old rusty bolts.

I am looking at the Milwaukee M18 1/2" impact. I would need the tool only since I have the batteries. Only about 183lb-ft of torque, but enough for my needs. Cost is $179 for tool only, $300 with two extra capacity (XC) batteries and charger. I like that it is compact (5.5" long) and lightweight (4.1 lb), but again prob not suited to your use.
 

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I have the 18v Dewalt impact wrench. I think there are two versions of this, diff being power. I have the more powerful version and use it mainly for removing lugbolts om my VW Jettas. As for power, with a fresh battery it will remove lugbolts IF they have been previously torqued to no more than 90 ft lbs. I've used it for a few other projects, but I'm really not impressed with it.
 

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The full sized Dewalt 18v impact would be the way to go on a budget. You can use the lithium batteries in all of the 18v Dewalt tools, but you have to have the yellow Lithium charger for them. I have not seen a packaged kit with an impact and lithium batteries from Dewalt yet. The only problem I have had is after taking 100 or so bolts out of grain bin rings the hammer housing on my Dewalt gets hot enough to scald your hand if you don't wear gloves.
 

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I currently own this Makita with 325 ft. lbs. of torque:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0014Z0MUI/?tag=atomicindus08-20
I previously had the big 18v Milwaukee 1/2 impact that produced 240 ft. lbs. The Makita blows it away and is much lighter. I know the Snap on has 400 ft. lbs. so if super power is what you need that is the way to go. The Makita has done everything I've ever asked of it and is $200 less than the Snap on.
I have several other Makita LXT tools so for me the universal battery platform is a big plus and something you may want to consider.
 

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I have a cp 1/2 18v ime prety shure it is made by Milwaukee because it looks identicl and has the same tq output 235 i think and i cant break loose anything with it. my litle 3/8 mg31 will put it to shame when its comes to breaking somthing loose. I would just get the Snap On CT4850HO and be done with it. when ever i take my 18v cp to the junk yard i always bring my braker bar because ime gona need it.
 
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The CT4850HO is just way too expensive. I'm looking at the Milwaukee setup for $460.
 

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I have used the Snap-On and the IR and my next one will be the IR. Well worth the money. No VSR? skip it it is only a lug nut buster. VSR will let you do many things other than bust lug nuts.
 

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I have a Milwaukee 28v. It wouldn't take off lug nuts hand tightened to 120 Ft-lbs.
Took it back, got another one, since I thought it was defective. The new one is also a BIG dissapointment.
 
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The 28v Milwaukee has 325 ft/lbs of torque, I'm surprized it couldn't remove lugs....

Thats the one I was looking at buying too.
 

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I don't understand how these big impacts can't break lugnuts. I have the Milwaukee M18 impact driver and with a square drive adaptor I broke lugnuts loose. I also twisted the adaptor shank 90 deg. It only has 1400 in-lb.
 
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Now I'm looking at the IR W360-KL2 kit. The IR website says it comes with Lith-Ion batteries but the Tool Barn website says Ni-Cad. Its dead on my target budget for that set but I don't want to buy NiCads. I'll call them tomorrow and see what they say.

Any comments on the IR stuff ? I know the pnumatic IR stuff is indestructable.... mine hasn't ever met a nut/bolt it couldn't remove.
 

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I know you blew off the other like-minded posters but I felt I had to say this. Look around for a used Snap-On 1/2". Local trucks, craigslist, eBay, what-have-you. They kick ***. I used to use co-workers' at a trailer shop and they are impressive. Rarely did I have to get out the ol' MG725 (sexyness!) if there was one with a relatively fresh battery within reach. Have seen slightly aesthetically rough but still very functional ones on the the truck for 2 or 3 bills, with charger, and I believe they're worth it, though I don't know that I'll ever buy one or have a need...
 

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What is with an adjustable torque trigger? I mean...the full power of a Snap-On at 90Nm lug nut....could get issues with this...
 

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I don't understand how these big impacts can't break lugnuts. I have the Milwaukee M18 impact driver and with a square drive adaptor I broke lugnuts loose. I also twisted the adaptor shank 90 deg. It only has 1400 in-lb.


I agree... It should, and I wish it did...But it doesn't .. at the authorized repair shop they have no way to measure any torque numbers. And I found a couple of others who are displeased with the same gun.. For its size, it should take my dually lug nuts off. It's awfully big...A BIG DISSAPOINTMENT.
 

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I know you blew off the other like-minded posters but I felt I had to say this. Look around for a used Snap-On 1/2". Local trucks, craigslist, eBay, what-have-you. They kick ***. I used to use co-workers' at a trailer shop and they are impressive. Rarely did I have to get out the ol' MG725 (sexyness!) if there was one with a relatively fresh battery within reach. Have seen slightly aesthetically rough but still very functional ones on the the truck for 2 or 3 bills, with charger, and I believe they're worth it, though I don't know that I'll ever buy one or have a need...

The Snap On CT4850HO hasn't been out for too long (neither has the "ol" MG725) so I doubt that's the one you have experience with or have seen on the truck for 2 - 3 bills. I have one and it rarely gets used. It's big, heavy and a PITA when you don't need that much torque.

I generally use my Mastercraft 14.4 impact ($150cdn!) or my IR 2135ti in the shop as they are much handier in tight spots. CT4850 is pretty much relegated to road work. It is a good impact though and would work well for the scrap yard.
 
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The 28v Milwaukee has 325 ft/lbs of torque, I'm surprized it couldn't remove lugs....

Thats the one I was looking at buying too.


I have one and i think it works great on the womans car, and they are torqued from the factory at 125 ft/lbs. So I think it works fine for me with torque sticks and the old snappy click for final torque. Maybe someone should try them and do some reviews, also maybe the ones that don't work right are DOA from the factory or something.
 
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Ok, so the W360-KL2 kit is actually slightly cheaper then the Wilwaukee set by about 10 bux and it is so new that it would be a special order basically direct from IR with reseller markup on it.

No one has any experience with the W360 ?
 

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I like the Ingersoll Rand w360 cordless 19.2V, you get a choice of lithium-ion or nickel cadmium (if you want to save a little $$$) battery.
http://www.irtools.com/IS/product.aspx-en-21106

Ingersoll-Rand 1/2" Impactool 19.2v Li-Ion Starter Pack (IR-W360-LSP) $402
http://www.alltiresupply.com/p-IR-W360-LSP.html
Ingersoll-Rand 1/2" Impactool 19.2v Ni-Cad Starter Pack (IR-W360-NSP) $367
http://www.alltiresupply.com/p-IR-W360-NSP.html

If you Google the part number you can find better prices.. :thumbup:
 
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I might pull the trigger on that IR Lith-Ion pack. Anyone have anything to say about the IR battery powered impact tools ? If they are as good as the pnumatic ones I know I wont be dissapointed.
 

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I've got the big Dewalt 18v one-I seem to remember it is around 300 ft-lbs,and I used it when I was in construction Pipefitting to draw up the 12" Victaulic clamps. We had a Milwaukee of about the same strength, but one of the guys dropped it from about 30 feet up one day. The motor was filled with pieces of magnet,and the sparks just flew when we tried it. I blew it out real well, and it seems to work just fine now-it's the backup impact wrench now.
The company bought us the smaller Dewalt 18v, and they do not have anywhere near the power of the big one.
 

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The Snap On CT4850HO hasn't been out for too long (neither has the "ol" MG725) so I doubt that's the one you have experience with or have seen on the truck for 2 - 3 bills. I have one and it rarely gets used. It's big, heavy and a PITA when you don't need that much torque.

I generally use my Mastercraft 14.4 impact ($150cdn!) or my IR 2135ti in the shop as they are much handier in tight spots. CT4850 is pretty much relegated to road work. It is a good impact though and would work well for the scrap yard.

I understand your sentiments but the work experience I spoke of is from a tractor / trailer shop where most of the tools themselves but for electrical repairs are big heavy and a PITA! This is good and bad... I do indeed have experience with the 4850HO, one of my good friends is a Snap-On dealer and I'm on his truck at least once or twice a week and he's always serving up the kool-aid; he has sold the HO to most of the guys at said trailer shop (also got me my job there) and as a punk kid who didn't want to spend $500 bucks on a new one, I used the other 4+ in the shop on a regular basis when working (learning) and the service manager let me borrow his for service calls.

I also did see a Snap-On 1/2" on the truck, it was dirty and scuffed, small crack in the housing but still worked well. It was traded in by my coworker, so I suppose it could have been an older model if the older one was similar looking to the 4850HO, but I'm fairly sure this was it; though I wasn't interested enough to really pore over it. Where I worked, tools got used and didn't look new for very long, so this is what's fogging my memory, also why I refer to my purchased two-weeks-after-release MG725 as the 'ol snap on because it's a little dinged up compared to my other tools. (Also good for making fun of my buddy with his big MAC IR gun) "Don't make me get the 'ol Snap-On gun!" "Is that IR gonna take off those slider holddowns?"


I'm not sure just how much power Rusty67 needs but if he has the time to look, and can find someone that got rid of their snap-on HO on the truck (financial reasons, lack of use like yourself, whatever) or is selling it, I think it would be a good buy due to the greater power, durability and it may still be under warranty. I also don't remember the guys I worked with having any issues with their cordless guns (sadly, unlike the XT7100 and MG.) The SO will probably have enough power for whatever he foresees and maybe some things he doesn't, but I can also see it being more expensive than his use will justify.


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The CT4850HO is just way too expensive. I'm looking at the Milwaukee setup for $460.

Forty bucks more for the Snap-On with a lot more power, man. I didn't realize you were considering spending this much, if you wait and look around you can find the Snap-On for that or less in good shape. At least where I live.
 
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I'm not geting the Snap-On. It uses inferior battery technology. I'm sure when the next line of batteries comes out they will be lith-ion but then I have to go spend extra money to upgrade. Also, the Snappy is like 100 bux over the cost of the Milwaukee which I'm also not going to get because I've seen too many negative reviews.

I'm now looking at the IR but no one seems to have used it to give me a review. I'm also looking at the larger DeWalt.
 

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I'm not geting the Snap-On. It uses inferior battery technology. I'm sure when the next line of batteries comes out they will be lith-ion but then I have to go spend extra money to upgrade. Also, the Snappy is like 100 bux over the cost of the Milwaukee which I'm also not going to get because I've seen too many negative reviews.

I'm now looking at the IR but no one seems to have used it to give me a review. I'm also looking at the larger DeWalt.

Buy what you want but I've never had any trouble with SO batteries! I've used the Dewalt that claims 300 lbs torque and it wouldn't pull a greasy **** out of a lard bucket, it was a total POS and I didn't like to IR much better. I've tried the Dewalt, Milwaukee, IR and Makita and they just don't compare to the Snap On 4850HO. I use mine daily and rarely need to pull out the air impact anymore. JMO though
 
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