Cordless Ratchet

[thaxboyd]

Going to get one soon, what do you guys recommend? Don't know my budget yet I think I will base that on what I learn here.

 

[Glemon]

I have a Milwaukee 3/8" drive, I think they are usually $150-160, but found one for a little over $100 a couple years back. It does not have much torque, but is designed to, and sturdy enough to be used as a regular hand ratchet to loosen tight nuts, then zip them off with the ratchet. Great tool, wish I had bought one much earlier in life.

 

[charbar]

Im pretty sure my SnapOn was right around $430 with tool, charger, and two batteries.

Not sure if they have two choices now (high speed or high torque) or if they phased out the higher speed/lower torque one for the lower speed/higher torque one. I've had both, honestly couldnt tell a HUGE difference in torque, but the new one is SLOW!!

If I wasnt invested in SnapOns 14.4v platform so much I probably would have went with a Milwaukee just because I doubt there is much difference in quality and the price difference is usually pretty substantial.

 

[mike93lx]

If you aren't tied to a battery platform already, m12 is basically the default.

I have the non-fuel 3/8 and it is one of the most handy tools I own. I'd really like to get a long neck model sometime

 

[CJM8515]

i have the milwaukee non fuel. i went that route b/c the non fuel has a much smaller head. i like it. its pretty strong and does well. but it cant hold a candle to my buddys snap on. the snap on is just that much better, more powerfull, etc. i also dislike the battery on the milwaukee doesnt lock in very positive. when using it as a regular ratchet it feels like the battery wants to come off.

since i only use it on smaller items like my motorcycle i dont worry to much. ive gotten far more use out of the stubby impact guns realyl than the ratchets.

 

[dnschmidt]

To me the current pick of the litter is the Milwaukee fuel high speed. The original fuel didn't float my boat but the high speed version sort of does. The head is very much smaller and the less torque really doesn't matter much since it's a ratchet that can always be used as a ratchet to break lose the fastener. The purpose of any of these tools is to spin fasteners on and off in an efficient manner. If you want nut busting torque (to coin a phrase) use an impact.

 

[Neggy]

like everything else it is a function of dollars...

want more HP, get out more dollars

want better tools, break out more dollars.

I'm sure the Snap-On at 400+ with batteries is a great tool.

Not something I am buying because I am a cheap ******* ( although I do own a lot of Snap-On tools)

I have 2 3/8 non fuel and a 1/4 non fuel Milwaukee

They do the job, and since I am heavily invested in the M12 platform (I already had ample batteries and chargers) it was a no brainer... look for the bare tool on sale.

Now I will say the 3/8 I have down the shop that my buddy beats the snot out of every day (and he would be the perfect example of the extreme use user) did get a new anvil when I got back from FL last spring.... but by that time he had been beating the snot out of it for a good 18 months. It still worked but it was a little finicky so the repair kit was short money and a quick fix.

If you can find anything in the Fuel line for reasonable money or a short jump from the non fuel model, always go for the Fuel tool

 

[64merc]

I have the M12 1/4 and 3/8 non-fuel and they are really handy! One day I'd like to pick up the fuel long neck version though (probably in 3/8 not but sure).

 

[Cruzan80]

Depends on how soon you need it. I have the husky with a built-in battery, and like it. Only in 3/8, but sub $100 once holiday tools show up (last two years).

 

[ArcReactorKC]

I have the older snapon from 2015, it is still awesome as it was the day I bought it. The milwaukee I've had since 2017 is showing a lot of age. However the snap on was twice the cost of the milwaukee. If you are in the 14.4 from snapon already go that route it is worth the cash. If not go M12 and don't look back. I don't like the size of the head on the fuel myself I feel like it's too bulky.

 

[Black300zx]

I also have a non-fuel 3/8" and I like it alot. Crack the bolt loose using it as a ratchet, then zip it off. Got mine for ~$80 bare tool on amazon.

To the OP:
Milwuakee non-fuel is lower torque, but more RPM. Fuel has more torque, but lower RPMs. If you are using it on something with a lot of constant friction (nyloc nuts, rusty bolts, etc), fuel might be better. If you are using it on applications that have low running torque once broken free, the non-fuel is cheaper and probably better from my perspective.

If you aren't tied to a battery platform already, m12 is basically the default.

I have the non-fuel 3/8 and it is one of the most handy tools I own. I'd really like to get a long neck model sometime

 

[TalonFE]

For non-professional use, the 3/8 inch drive $79 Craftsman V20 is a steady unit (tool only). Not flashy but very handy and reliable ( survived a few ad-hoc drop tests onto concrete). Lowe's occasionally has a deal where you buy a 4ah battery and pick a tool, of which the ratchet is usually a choice. Kind of a good deal although the tool balances better with a 2ah. The whole rig is a bit long so not that handy in a tight spot but an extension (or two) will remedy.

 

[Badgerstate]

Going to get one soon, what do you guys recommend? Don't know my budget yet I think I will base that on what I learn here.

For DIY use, I love my Craftsman V20. Its got plenty of power and really speeds up jobs. At $80, you cant beat the price. I looked at a Milwaukee but I just couldnt justyify the cost.
I also considered the Ryobi but the battery design makes the tool pretty bulky. You often have to turn the battery to get it out of the way, which isnt a problem that you have with the Craftsman. Its an example of even though people applaude Ryobi for sticking with the same battery system, sometimes theres a reason why stem style batteries were phased out.

 

[Rabid Badger]

Check out the Makita. Compared to the Milwaukee it has a much more durable trigger switch, more ergonomic grip and a swappable anvil so you can buy one tool for 3/8 and 1/4 duty.

 

[wafrederick]

Three complaints with the Milwaukee fuel ratchets are the paddle trigger,selector and the head is too bulky on the 3/8 Fuel ratchet.I have the Snap On 14.4 short Brute,love the selector and button style trigger and fits my left hand very well.Can get a magnetic boot with the Snap On which twists on.The boot goes on the battery.I have both of the 1/4 Fuel ratchets,had the long reach sent in for repair under warranty once.Selector was getting sticky and had to use a pair of pliers to change directions on it.Milwaukee found the anvil and hammer assembly was worn out replaced under warranty.

 

[SS5150]

There is a newer 1/4" high speed Milwaukee Fuel and it is excellent. I've had the regular Milwaukee, the 1st gen Fuels, and just got the high speed Fuel about 2 months ago. It's awesome.

 

[plinker]

I've got a couple different Milwaukee's, Here's my findings on using them.

M12 3/8 non fuel,
Not much torque, great as a nut runner. Big time saver when dealing with hardware already loosened manually and for assembly work. A 1/4 drive kit can be installed in a spare ratchet and saves using an adapter at times. It is bulky in that application but it has been useful for me. The 3/8 I'm using currently is from '17 and showing it's age some, it is a daily use tool though.

M12 3/8 fuel (1st gen?),
More torque then the non-fuel version, about 35-40 ft lb vs maybe 20ft lbs, it could potentially break off a 6mm bolt (or feels like it anyway). Definatly bulkier in the head, I've not run into any clearance issues yet, But I'm mostly using it for brake jobs at the moment, some other stuff too, but no under hood work to speak of. I've only had it about 6weeks & got it used from the Matco guy.

The 3/8 fuel is similar in torque to the Snap-on unit the boss has. S-O is less bulky but the trigger is smaller.


M12 1/2 fuel,
Great for larger bolts (12/14mm) that are taking a bit of effort to remove (locite, rust, ete..), I think it could potentially snap off an 8mm bolt. Bulk & size havent really been a problem. Main use is caliper bracket bolts and some suspension. Kind of front heavy and a bit of a club. Got it as a gift from work last Christmas.

Summary,
If I was buying these over again, I'd go with the non fuel in 3/8 and also get the 1/2 drive fuel. I was dubious as to how useful the 1/2 drive unit would be, but it actually is very handy at times. A 3/8 fuel could be the best of both worlds depending on how you plan to use it.

The Snap-on & Matco battery ratchets are nice, but more expensive then I think their worth for my purposes.

I also have a non-fuel 3/8" and I like it alot. Crack the bolt loose using it as a ratchet, then zip it off. Got mine for ~$80 bare tool on amazon.

To the OP:
Milwuakee non-fuel is lower torque, but more RPM. Fuel has more torque, but lower RPMs. If you are using it on something with a lot of constant friction (nyloc nuts, rusty bolts, etc), fuel might be better. If you are using it on applications that have low running torque once broken free, the non-fuel is cheaper and probably better from my perspective.

I would agree.

 

[quickfarms]

Check out the Makita. Compared to the Milwaukee it has a much more durable trigger switch, more ergonomic grip and a swappable anvil so you can buy one tool for 3/8 and 1/4 duty.

I have been looking at the makita 18v version mainly because I use that platform for many other tools and have many batteries

 

[Mallen]

If you aren't tied to a battery platform already, m12 is basically the default.

I have the non-fuel 3/8 and it is one of the most handy tools I own. I'd really like to get a long neck model sometime

Ive been looking at the Milwaukee M12 ones. Most of the others have huge awkward batteries. I just can't get past that.

My question has been, will I end up feeling that I could have just stayed with the air powered ratchet I have.

 

[kelpaso1]

I like my M12 1/4 inch ratchet. Strong enough to spin Nylock nuts off, and not too big.

 

[anavrinIV]

I have been looking at the makita 18v version mainly because I use that platform for many other tools and have many batteries

I'm also in the Makita 18V camp but started my M12 collection off with a 3/8 non-fuel ratchet and a 1/4" driver. For the ratchet I prefer the smaller size and pod battery vs. what Makita offers in either 12v or 18v (although I like the swappable anvils). After using a buddy's fuel ratchet I wanted the smaller head as well, this seems to be a common sentiment here. The driver gives me a smaller option than the Makita which comes in handy for some of my projects where space is a concern. So far both have been great, and the driver is my go-to for smaller projects now

 

[67King]

I recommend against it.....kind of. I don't recommend a tool, I recommend what they like to call an eco system. Look at the line of tools available by manufacturer, and see which SYSTEM you think would best fit your needs in the long run. Personally, I started out with M12's, I think an impact driver. I now probably have a couple dozen different M12 tools, and am converting my 18V stuff over to M18 over time.

Anyway, when you find the eco system that best fits you, get its corresponding ratchet. Most of my M12 stuff was bought as the Fuel line was coming out, so I got the older tech stuff pretty heavily discounted. Have some brushless non-Fuel (a bit more rare, most non-Fuel is brushed, most brushless is Fuel). Maybe 1 of my M18 tools is a Fuel. But if you aren't a pro, and this is to make life easier, I'd stick with the lower end stuff, as I think it is a better value. Different equation for a pro.

 

[joshmodelskidoo]

Milwaukee m12 stuff is the go to but if that’s not in your budget hf and ryobi have some. My self i have power torque from oriley auto parts. They look to be the same as Amazons prostormer brand and use the same batterie as some of the astro pneumatic cordless pilisher. I like it and use the heck out of it. Watch some YouTube videos and there’s probably some comparisons

 

[Xcursion88]

We have Snap-on in the shop I own but my suggestion to you is a question...

Is there any other tool besides an impact you could find yourself interested in owning? Drill...impact driver...reciprocating saw...circular saw...

If so then I'd suggest going with the brand with the most ease of access in your area for batteries.

DeWalt, Makita, Milwaukee and SO to a degree (Snap on doesn't have the extensive offerings of the other 3) These mfg's are very close performance wise and it's really a battery driven industry.

That said if you're looking at 1/2" guns the Snap-on is definitely built for longer and harder use. It's a simple 4 screw nose cup to maintenance but the Milwaukee is nearly impossible to maintain.

This video might help you and definitely watch it in It's entirety

 

[boom10ful]

If you're on a budget, the Husky cordless seems to be a fair price.

 

[loganb]

Another vote for the milwauke M12, believe mine is the Fuel but picked up as a combo and use it surprisingly often

 

[dnschmidt]

The Ryobi is a joke. An electric ratchet that can't fit anywhere is useless. I gave away a brand new HF Earthquake ratchet for that exact reason even though it's a pretty good ratchet. With the battery that Ryobi uses their ratchet borders on useless. The new M12 Fuel High Speed is the best choice IMO as the combination of a small head and fast speed makes this the best choice. The original M12 also has a small head which is very beneficial. For a home gamer wait for a deal on the original M12 and you'll be happy.

 

[BlakeTheCarGuy]

Milwaukee would be my choice. That way I’d already have a charger and plus in my opinion they are the best power tools. Honestly I’ve been using my Earthquake one from Harbor Freight and it has done absolutely amazing in a professional setting. I’m one of the only one’s in the shop with a cordless ratchet so pretty much everyone borrows it and it has held up excellent. Actually I know several mechanics that recommend them.

 

[dnschmidt]

The only thing bad about the Earthquake is that it's too damn big. That and the fact that its been discontinued and finding a battery for it will be impossible soon. Perhaps the AC-Delco batteries will work as it's exactly the same tool.

 

[joshmodelskidoo]

I believe the hf earthquake is the same as the ac delco g series.

 

[BlakeTheCarGuy]

The only thing bad about the Earthquake is that it's too damn big. That and the fact that its been discontinued and finding a battery for it will be impossible soon. Perhaps the AC-Delco batteries will work as it's exactly the same tool.

When was it discontinued? I thought I seen them in stores recently. I got mine with my ITC membership for $89.99.

 

[slik560]

I got a HF Earthquake unit and it wasn't powerful enough to do much of anything. Came with two batteries. Maybe I'll charge up and try again but the first use was really disappointing. I stopped shopping HF over a year ago because most everything they sell is made in a certain Asian nation that I don't need to mention.

 

[gearhead1]

I have the Milwaukee and like it. Very handy, easy to use, and can get easily. I have the 3/8 drive and will get a 1/4 drive.

 

[Rabid Badger]

I got a HF Earthquake unit and it wasn't powerful enough to do much of anything. Came with two batteries. Maybe I'll charge up and try again but the first use was really disappointing. I stopped shopping HF over a year ago because most everything they sell is made in a certain Asian nation that I don't need to mention.

They aren't meant to break things loose. You use them like a normal ratchet to loosen the fastener, then pull the trigger to spin it off quickly.

 

[darkzero]

I have the M12 3/8" Fuel High Speed which replaced the 1st gen Fuel. Couldn't be happier. When the HS got released I wasn't interested in buying it, eventually I started to hate the 1st gen Fuel, slow, heavy, & huge head (but the head size really didn't bother me much). Bought the HS at full price which I pretty much have never done with all my other MW tools, gave the 1st gen to my lil brother. I'd gladly do it again. Faster, lighter, & smaller. Down on torque but that does not matter to me as I don't rely on powered ratchets to break loose fasteners.

 

[vwpieces]

The first M12 Milwaukee tool I bought was the 3/8 M12 fuel stubby impact gun style. Awesome for what it is and the size.

After that I went for the non fuel 3/8in ratchet because it has the more compact head. Got it for $100 bare tool as I already had the batteries from the impact.
Never used the fuel or any other size ratchets but I am happy with the one I chose. It will loosen a nut like a manual ratchet and spin off the nut under power after that.

Air or battery, these powered ratchets are not meant to torque off a nut under power. Something High torque in this design will only pinch or break fingers.

Since the M12 impact and ratchet I bought a refurb fuel set with the hammer drill and screw gun type hex impact.
I have other M18 tools too but the M12 are used a lot more than the M18. Also use the batt tools way more than the air versions the past few years.

 

[dnschmidt]

What would be the absolute nuts would be a Milwaukee impacting ratchet similar to the air powered SP tools model. The air tool does have the torque to break fasteners free but doesn't break your wrist in the process. HF makes an impacting ratchet that works super for the money as well but the SP tools models are tiny and can do fifty foot pounds.

 

[jgromada]

I too like a lot of others got the basic Milwaukee 3/8

Home Depot has periodically run a special where you would get the ratchet, mini hackzall & a drill & driver for $199. The hackzall has been useful as have the small driver. Plus got 2 batteries.

Some people have recommended the Fuel version, but for me the larger head of the Fuel is not as useful. There are really tight bolts i have used a separate ratchet to break loose but it has been a good tool for zipping off nuts after that.

 

[slik560]

They aren't meant to break things loose. You use them like a normal ratchet to loosen the fastener, then pull the trigger to spin it off quickly.

Truth be told, that's the rationale the spouse is getting to justify upgrading to Milwaukee.

 

[P0234]

If you're on a budget, the Husky cordless seems to be a fair price.

Yep. Great tool for a DIY. I think I paid $60. Battery lasts longer than I care to tinker in a day.