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gte718p

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After almost 10 years of trusty service my 14.4 volt dewalt drill has finally bitten the dust. Two new batteries for it run over $100 bucks and i'm pretty sure it's time to rebuild the motor on the drill. I figure I'll drop a couple of hundred dollars extra and move up to the 18v lithium lines of drill and drivers. I'm looking at dewalt, makita, milakee, and hilti. All have a combo kit in the $300 dollar range. What say you?

I'm not concerned with where it's made. My only concern is the quality of the product vs the price. I know every tool thread has to go there but the horse is dead.
 
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We have used DeWalt, Makita and Craftsman cordless tools on the farm and in the shop. The Makita tools have been very good but the DeWalt tools have impressed us the most. The motors have always sounded smoother and they maintained a higher power level for a longer period of time (they say that's not an issue with the lithium tools). DeWalt tools that we have used have always had a little more metal in their construction too. We don't abuse tools, but we do use them pretty hard at times. The DeWalt has just shined a little brighter in our eyes.

Scott
 

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I'd vote for dewalt, but I have no experience with any other brand other than my son has a 19.2v craftsman which has been a POS since day one. I have 2 18v dewalt drills, sawzall, trimsaw, snake light, 1/2 dr impact. never miis a beat with any of 'em. I did bust the case on one drill, but that was because I dropped it from the peak of my garage roof twice, (while building the garage). The peak is about 15 ft.
 

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I also fourth dewalt. I have had a 14.4v xrp drill and impact driver for 10yrs. On my 3rd pair of batteries. I use them at least a few times a week. Still working great. I just recently picked up a new 18v xrp drill/sawsall/circ saw/flashlight combo from home depot for $200. Very happy with those.
 

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Shameless threadjack... I've got a brand new 14.4v dewalt battery if anybody needs one. Got it for christmas. No reciept to return/exchange. All my dewalt are 18v... Like to trade it for something.

Back on topic. The older, (ni cad?), dewalt 18v tools will accept the new li ion batteries too.
 

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Had several Dewalts when I worked construction. They were rather poor. Milualkee (sp) or Ryobi. Ryobi is the best value and mine is several years old and a better tool in all respects than any of the 14.4 Dewalt units I tore through. 10 years in the field to back it up and I can't imagine quality has gotten better. They are fine for homeowner use. BUY THE RYOBI UNLESS YOU USE IT EVERY DAY. Get the red one for daily use. Maybe one day I will try the ion batteries but my needs are 100% met with this 18v ryobi drill.
 
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1stwarrior95

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but my needs are 100% met with this 18v ryobi drill.

I must be picky... Not one tool I've ever had meets 100% of my needs! LOL


(Jokin man. :) )

Good info though. Hard to argue with 10 yrs experience. Wish you would've had 18v dewalts to compare just for my own curiousity if nothing else. I use mine just about every day, but not all day everyday. :thumbup:
 

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One more for the 18v Lithium Makita. I bought a comb kit (1/2 drill, 1/4 impact driver, circular saw, and light). I am very happy with their performance and charge times. I also have Dewalt drill 12v which I have had for several years and it has performed very well. The reason I changed to Makita is the Lithium batteries and the large variety of cordless tools they have all based on the same battery.
 
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go with lithium batteries in whatever you choose. I have had great luck with Milwaulkee and Makita and so/so experience with DeWalt but use the **** out of them.
Recentlly bought a new 18v Milwaulkee which is a great tool so far, but after I started using it noticed it was "made in China" BIG BUMMER!!!!!
 

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'BUY THE RYOBI UNLESS YOU USE IT EVERY DAY. '
I have the the 18v ryobi drill, ion batteries Combo pack, meets my needs.
BTW, just a month ago Consumer Reports had a Shoot Out, all the brands, #screws driven, holes drilled etc.
 

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I'll throw my vote to Milwaukee. All of my cordless stuff is Milwaukee and have both 18V NiCad and a 28V Lithium kits. I would recommend if you can, pick up a combo set. I love the cordless sawzall and skill saw that came with them.
 

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I must be picky... Not one tool I've ever had meets 100% of my needs! LOL


(Jokin man. :) )

Good info though. Hard to argue with 10 yrs experience. Wish you would've had 18v dewalts to compare just for my own curiousity if nothing else. I use mine just about every day, but not all day everyday. :thumbup:

Well, battery power and battery issues aside (and there were many). One motor burned up, All three developed cracks in the housing, one had the motor break loose inside the plastic frame of the drill and another one had the transmission (2 speed) fail. One was still limping along when I sold it at a yard sale with one battery and charger for $10. So far in 5 years of hard homeowner (i retired from contracting in 05) use that includes 1 whole house remodel of gutted house, one addition as well as several other major paying renovations that included converting 5,000sf of abandoned building into office space plus all my home projects I am still on the original batteries and the only damage to the drill is the rubbery grip covering is falling apart/wearing down. All this from a drill costing 1/4 of the Dewalt. In my experience I think the Ryobi is a better than the Dewalt units but I may feel better about it as time goes further. It's not that the Ryobi is the greatest though it is good, it's just that in my experienc the Dewalt is a premium priced item that performs like a low to mid quality item.
 
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Dewalt is the only one with Li-Fe-PO4 batteries and they get my vote because of that. Their tools are pretty good, but the money you pay for good cordless tools is substantially for the batteries. My tools get used hard all over the farm but certainly not daily. I don't wish to be buying new batteries every few years.

Favorites: 36 volt sawzall, 36v angle grinder, and 18 volt hex impact driver.
Runner up: 36 volt circular saw.
 

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i'd never buy anyhting with the ryobi name on it again.
crappy battery life, wont hold a charge, and after a year or so BOTH batteries wont even take a charge. then ryobi changes voltages, and the old batteries are hard to find.
right now i'm waiting for all my other cordless tools, kawasaki, B&D, CM, blue point to take a dump, cuz they're all headed for the dumpster. hopefully by then the li-ion stuff will come down in price a little, and i'll replace everything with one brand. :thumbup:
having 4 or 5 chargers on the shelf is getting to be a PITA


:beer:
 

bbriggs

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There are many different formulations of lithium batteries, most familiar probably are the ones used in laptop computers. These formulations try to achieve high energy density so the manufacturer can claim greater battery life per charge. Problem is, their capacity is reduced with age whether you use them or not. At 3 years of age or so one may need to buy a new battery even if the original saw few or no discharge cycles. Too, typical lithium batteries are subject to explosion hazard in the rare case that a cell is shorted or a charger runs amok. Lithium-iron-phosphate formulations show much more resistance to decline in cell capacity with age or discharge cycles, and they are not subject to explosion. This technology was, and still may be, sought by Toyota to displace their NiMH batteries in their hybrid vehicles. My understanding is the manufacturing capacity for the new cells, and therefore cost-effective availability, was a sticking point for Toyota. Out only a few years with the technology, I chose to roll the dice that Dewalt made the right choice. Brand new, their lithium cells don't quite measure up to the competition, something like 2.3 Ah instead of around 3.0 Ah in the competition's cells. After a year or two of use the Dewalt cells will likely trounce the competition's batteries of the same age. Time will tell, but my oldest cells are now around 3 years old and I don't notice any difference between them and my newest cells only 6 months old. In the meantime, Dewalt's tools are still pretty darn good and bare tools are readily available once an adequate stockpile of batteries is achieved.

I'm surprised Dewalt doesn't brag up their batteries more, but I'm just a silly farmer from Iowa.
 

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Bought the Hilti 240 (I think that's the no) and it's been great. A hell of a powerful cordless drill. Had one bad battery w/i a month and I was fedex a new one within a day or two. Sent the other back. I got a good price on it from HD.
 

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I think there is a lot to be said to how much you use something so you can get the most for your money. I have a milwaukee set and love it and before that the old porter cable 19.2 Nicad drill which was great as well. The professional stuff is probably overall only 10-15% better then the stuff marketed to the weekend warrior. I think few people really need that 10% so if you are looking to get the best value make sure you understand what you need. I agree that if you are using it day in and day out making a living from the tool, like I do, then the milwaukee is a great choice and their new m18 line is awesome. But if it is something you are going to use once a month to hang some blinds for your wife then the ryobi seems to be a good bet. Now with that being said I still know plenty of guys who make a living with a ryobi and on the other hand I know a lot of DIYs who spend big money on professional stuff like milwaukee.
 
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