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Keep getting a leak on my new roof panel. I've jacked with the screws etc. Did notice one section isn't laying flat with old roofing. Anyone seen this give trouble? I may climb up and put a screw right where the sheets are separated (middle of pic) I don't know if roofers bent old sheet or distorted new one by not screwing down in proper order. New sheet was put up to replace fiberglass panels because of leaks.
 

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I think you might have to take most/all of the screws out and start from the top and work your way to down to get it to lay flat. If you put another screw in the middle of the gaps you might end up with high spots on either side of the new screw. And unfortunately maybe use a new piece of roofing so you don't have a bunch of extra holes. I am far from a roof expert though. Also if its not solid underneath it might not ever work well.
 
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And unfortunately maybe use a new piece of roofing so you don't have a bunch of extra holes. I am far from a roof expert though. Also if its not solid underneath it might not ever work well.
What's weird is the new panel to the left (not in pic) has a slight wave but no leaks) and the 2 roof panels that were replaced on the other side of roof lay pretty flat. I paid 80 apiece for roofing material and 800 dollars to have 4 sheets installed on my roof and here I'm having to fix it. I just wasn't sure about trying to replace them myself but am certainly having to get up there to repair it. UGGGG! The screw I'm thinking of installing will just be in the 2 sheets-no wood underneath but I could add a piece if the screw doesn't hold. I wonder if they weren't careful when they installed them and put too much pressure on old sheet and bent it but picture sure does show it's deformed but pic shows it looking worse than it really is. The pic compresses the roof quit a bit.
 
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Here's a scary pic of the panel head on. Remember that the pic is compressed with Tele lens from my phone. I wonder if they stepped on it.
 

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Here's a scary pic of the panel head on. Remember that the pic is compressed with Tele lens from my phone. I wonder if they stepped on it.
It definitely looks very wavy in that pic, just can't tell if its due to screws or bent.
 
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It definitely looks very wavy in that pic, just can't tell if its due to screws or bent.
The pic may be deceptive as I had the camera in night mode and it might have combined 2 pics and created some distortion. I looked at it from underneath a few minutes ago and it looks fine. I can push the old panel up to meet the new panel where it's lifted and it won't take much to make that happen. I'll probably get on the roof tomorrow morning. I just need to put my extension ladder together and have my wife help me. The problem with putting a piece of wood up against it is my 10 ft step ladder isn't tall enough and my extension ladder can't be put in the proper location to reach roof from underneath. I told my wife she may have to get on my step ladder and push a board against roof so the screw will grab the lower sheet I'm trying to pull together.
 

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The pic may be deceptive as I had the camera in night mode and it might have combined 2 pics and created some distortion. I looked at it from underneath a few minutes ago and it looks fine. I can push the old panel up to meet the new panel where it's lifted and it won't take much to make that happen. I'll probably get on the roof tomorrow morning. I just need to put my extension ladder together and have my wife help me. The problem with putting a piece of wood up against it is my 10 ft step ladder isn't tall enough and my extension ladder can't be put in the proper location to reach roof from underneath. I told my wife she may have to get on my step ladder and push a board against roof so the screw will grab the lower sheet I'm trying to pull together.
That sounds like a decent plan.
 

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That is 7/8” corrugated and it should lay flat. You are saying that it is a replacement sheet. If that’s the case then the whole roof is not installed correctly. The panels should lap two ribs, not one, there should be butyl tape in all the laps, the laps should have stitch screws at 12” on center and the rest of the screws on the other ribs are missing. On walls a one rib lap is acceptable. This is all per the manufacturer instructions. At least someone installed the screws on the high ribs correctly.

Wind driven rain will go right into the open laps. Obviously you are not going to replace the roof but that sheet can be installed almost correctly. Butyl tape is available at Home Depot and with the stitch screws you should be able to get it sealed up. 2” screws are recommended for this installation.
 

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That is 7/8” corrugated and it should lay flat. You are saying that it is a replacement sheet. If that’s the case then the whole roof is not installed correctly. The panels should lap two ribs, not one, there should be butyl tape in all the laps, the laps should have stitch screws at 12” on center and the rest of the screws on the other ribs are missing. On walls a one rib lap is acceptable. This is all per the manufacturer instructions. At least someone installed the screws on the high ribs correctly.

Wind driven rain will go right into the open laps. Obviously you are not going to replace the roof but that sheet can be installed almost correctly. Butyl tape is available at Home Depot and with the stitch screws you should be able to get it sealed up. 2” screws are recommended for this installation.
What He Said, For a "Quick and Dirty Repair you could brush on a adhesive coating, lay down some fabric and apply another layer of adhesive coating.
 
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That is 7/8” corrugated and it should lay flat. You are saying that it is a replacement sheet. If that’s the case then the whole roof is not installed correctly.
This is only 1/4 inch high ribs spaced 1.25 apart. They are lapped correctly and I looked this morning (waiting until the dew is gone to get on roof). I will remove the screws on the side that's "bulging" and see what's going on. They pulled them through the opening from the bottom and on an 18 ft 26 gauge metal they may have bent them. I have a tube of through the roof sealer I may use. Non of my other sheets are sealed that I know of. The wall sheets have same overlap. I call it 1 1/2 overlap.
 
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I got up there after dew burned off. Didn't take nothing to push down raised part so I took out all screws on edge and cleaned with wet rag and noticed many holes from old tin that fell on last edge of New tin. Filled those holes with through the roof and ran a bead length of tin. Screwed back down and 2 places where no purlin and screw held. I think I got it. No rain for a week and highs sometimes 100.
 

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I’m guessing that the camera distorted the image. Doesn’t matter. The installation process is still the same.
It is really frustrating as a supplier of roof materials and installer on metal buildings to see 95% of metal roofs installed incorrectly. I would be willing to bet that 99% of people installing metal roofs have never seen the installation instructions from the manufacturer. They got information from uninformed installers or YouTube.
Most people get lucky and don’t have leaks. A lot of people have leaks but you may not hear from them.
The people I have talked to don’t want to go through all the correct steps because it would turn what is supposed to be an inexpensive roof into an inexpensive roof.
Sorry. Rant over.
 
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It is really frustrating as a supplier of roof materials and installer on metal buildings to see 95% of metal roofs installed incorrectly.
According to this manufacturer's instructions sealant is only needed if below a certain pitch. Not sure what mine is but my lean too is probably below that threshbold.
 

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According to this manufacturer's instructions sealant is only needed if below a certain pitch. Not sure what mine is but my lean too is probably below that threshbold.
I suspect that’s correct. I have never seen sealant at the laps used here on regular pitched roofs.

Having said that, most roofers here seem to hate metal roofs. They all eventually leak at the fasteners, and rip in valleys.

A couple of businesses have torn them off to protect damage from sliding snow. The sun hits the ridge, melts the snow, and it refreshes lower down.

One of mine is leaking in a dozen places, despite tightening the screws and applying sealant. Water down the threads freezes and literally unscrews the fasteners. I had some on another roof that backed out 3/8 of an inch.

They’re cheap and fast, though, so lots of people like them.
 
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Having said that, most roofers here seem to hate metal roofs. They all eventually leak at the fasteners, and rip in valleys.
My roof has been up since aprox. 1970 and only shows some signs of rust except where the shorter panels were above and below the translucent panels I removed and replaced with the new sheets. A few of the panels looked at some nails under high rainfalls and wind. But I do have the same sheets (different brand and possible thinner) over my wood shingles on my shop (an old chicken house) since aprox. mid 80s and still not leaking but did have to screw a panel or two down but they are rusting somewhat and I painted them 3 years ago but starting to poke through again.
 

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My roof has been up since aprox. 1970 and only shows some signs of rust except where the shorter panels were above and below the translucent panels I removed and replaced with the new sheets. A few of the panels looked at some nails under high rainfalls and wind. But I do have the same sheets (different brand and possible thinner) over my wood shingles on my shop (an old chicken house) since aprox. mid 80s and still not leaking but did have to screw a panel or two down but they are rusting somewhat and I painted them 3 years ago but starting to poke through again.
Different climate. I doubt if you regularly have heavy snow accumulation that results in the melting I described. Our roofs typically shed a couple times in early winter, maybe once in January, then sit under a couple feet of snow until the sun stays longer in mid to late March. That’s when the melting from the ridge starts, and the ice jacking of the screws begins. Sometimes the final shedding doesn’t happen until April.

Really tears up valleys. Just like a can opener.

Many light commercial shops have the little eave overhang damaged. It looks like someone took a 12 lb sledge to the edge of the roof.. No idea as to what their insulation is like, though.
 
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Well, after a month or more we had some nice showers this morning and I only got one leak in the main part of shed but had multiple leaks in my lean to which has a less slope on the roof. My conclusion is it's mostly capillary action in the seams. I think with time dust and debris collects in the corrugations and pulls the water over to the inside underneath and it runs down to the purlins. I can tell there's a dirty streak in the roof seams underneath where this occurs. I have run some beads of "through the roof" sealant from underneath and that may stop it. Another stop may be to add screws between the purlins to squeeze the top outside edge together preventing water from getting under to start with.
 

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I have repaired roofs just like they were Airplanes, liberally applying “Dope and Fabric”.
Patch jobs will often get you through a difficult situation.
 

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Keep getting a leak on my new roof panel. I've jacked with the screws etc. Did notice one section isn't laying flat with old roofing. Anyone seen this give trouble? I may climb up and put a screw right where the sheets are separated (middle of pic) I don't know if roofers bent old sheet or distorted new one by not screwing down in proper order. New sheet was put up to replace fiberglass panels because of leaks.
I'm sorry to hear about the persistent leak issue on your new roof panel. It's concerning that one section doesnt align correctly with the old roofing potentially causing the problem. Adding a screw in the area where the sheets are separated could be a temporary solution but it's crucial to address the root cause of the misalignment. Roofers may have not installed the new sheet correctly or there could be underlying issues with the structure. I recommend reaching out to a professional roofer to thoroughly assess the situation identify the source of the problem and provide a lasting solution to prevent further leaks and ensure the integrity of your roof.
 
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I'm sorry to hear about the persistent leak issue on your new roof panel.
I'm concluding that the gaps weren't really to blame but capillary action of water pulling water into bottom panel where a screw goes through 2 panels. I've been pulling up edges of some panels where leakage has occurred and cleaning out dirt which can cause capillary action across ribbing and sealing bottom panel screw holes with sealant and rescrewing. I doubt that the roofing crew knows more than I know at this point.
 

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The uneven section might be causing your leak. I had a similar issue with my roof where the new panels didn't align well with the old ones. Improper alignment can create gaps and allow water to seep through. Before you add more screws, try to realign the panel if possible. You might need to loosen some screws, adjust the panel, and then re-tighten them in the correct order. If the panel is bent, replace it entirely. Also, ensure you're using the correct type of screws and sealant for your roofing material. In my case, I hired a roofer with good reviews to fix the issue, and it worked out well. Do the same to ensure your roof is repaired correctly.
 
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