Costs?

[wrigh003]

OK, I know all this stuff is as variable as the day is long, but I am trying to get a preliminary budget going for what it will cost me to build a detached 2-car garage/ shop (probably 20ish by 30ish) back on the corner of our property.

My main concern is the slab- it's the one piece of the build that I know I couldn't DIY, and probably the most expensive part. The ground where I want to build is fairly level, so it shouldn't take much (if any) excavation/re-grading, or at least none beyond what I could do with a free weekend with a bobcat.

I guess what I'm looking for is round budget numbers so I can start scraping those pennies together, especially advice on what getting the slab poured should cost.

Thanks in advance-
Jake

 

[REFLEXX]

Umm... I have an idea. See below

 

[REFLEXX]

Seriously. It varies sooo much by where you are. I'm certain I paid a premium because I'm in So.Cal. Shop around, see what code requires, do your homework.

 

[MXtras]

I am not sure about the slab and like you said - cost depends greatly on how elaborate you get.

BUT - I think the basic numbers you can use for budgeting are about $75 per square foot for a standard, run-of-the-mill, "contractor" grade, finished build out without A/C or concrete. 'Warehouse' style space costs about $40 per Sq Ft. It also depends on if you are stick building or going with a pole barn or a steel building.

An elaborate build out might exceed $125 per SqFt but I think the average is around $80-$85 per Sq Ft. This is about what it cost me to recently build out my shop.

Perhaps Reflexx could provide a more definate number as he is just completing his fairly elaborate build out.

Scott

 

[hawkeye2]

My shop so far has worked out to about $25.00 per SQ ft. $30,000/1200sq
you can see it at www.hawkeyeindustries.us

I did all the work my self, except the concrete, and dywall.

As far as cost, the big items are easy. make a phone call for trusses, siding, electric and concrete. They can give you a rough estimate over the phone, or come out and give you a real estimate.

The other stuff, lumber, shingles, insulation .... do some math then go to Lowe's or Home depot

Rick

 

[wrigh003]

Wow. That's a bunch of dollars.

I sent an email to 84 lumber a little while ago to see what their "packages" cost, but if you guys are right, it may be a while before I get my building. Unless I decide to stop eating for a couple or eight years.

Ah well, I have my basement shop to finish first anyway...

Edit:
And wow, hawkeye, that is one hell of a nice shop you have working there- lots of space and lots of cabinets. Looks better than my kitchen!

 

[MXtras]

It's suprising how things add up.

Like Reflexx said - take your best guess and triple it!

The $25 per SqFt number sounds pretty good, by the way, hawkeye. Good job!

I think the steel building costs are pretty attractive - anybody have any recent experience with steel buildings?

Scott

 

[junkman104]

I am getting the ground work done now for a 30x50 insulated pole building.

groundwork 3100.00
building 12120.00
concrete 2500.00

17720.00 under 12.00 per square foot so far.

Then comes wiring ect...ect...

 

[wrigh003]

I am getting the ground work done now for a 30x50 insulated pole building.

groundwork 3100.00
building 12120.00
concrete 2500.00

17720.00 under 12.00 per square foot so far.

Then comes wiring ect...ect...

What kind of groundwork is involved? Are you cutting into a hill or something and/or is that $2500 just the raw material cost on the concrete and the groundwork is the site prep/ fill material/ form building/ labor/ whatever else $$$?

I think I was kind of hoping that I could get something decent and useful built for around $10k- I can swallow that, knowing that even if we were to move in 5 years or so I'd get a lot of use (in the meantime) and most of my investment back out of it. Toward that end, stick built would probably be a lot better (for future property valuation purposes) than a metal barn. Even though I don't mind a metal building, some folks do, and on top of that consideration I'd be concerned about durability, since there seem to be loads of tornadoes/ straight-line winds around where I live, and I just don't know how metal holds up. Granted, big enough tornado and it doesn't matter WHAT you build, you're hosed anyway.

Anyway, this is going on the back corner of my lot (just 2 acres) and I know I'd hate it (well, more accurately, my WIFE would hate it...) if my neighbor put up a big metal barn right on the property line. On the other hand, anything's better than the 15' tall brush I bushhogged out of the spot the other day.

Post up more numbers (everybody) if you don't mind sharing- I know stuff varies, but I can get some idea anyway...

 

[junkman104]

I quess I left out its being built in western N. Carolina cut out of a hill. There is no footer or forms in a post and beam building, the bottom board is the form and is poured after construction. the 12,120.00 is for the building and erected. I found this company to put it up http://www.nationalbarn.com/ and sounded like a good deal to me.

 

[wrigh003]

I quess I left out its being built in western N. Carolina cut out of a hill. There is no footer or forms in a post and beam building, the bottom board is the form and is poured after construction. the 12,120.00 is for the building and erected. I found this company to put it up http://www.nationalbarn.com/ and sounded like a good deal to me.

Sweet- where in WNC? I grew up in Ronda, over close to North Wilkesboro, Jonesville, Elkin, all that.

If I wasn't such a retard I would have noticed that you were building a post-and-beam barn.

 

[nova65ss]

Here's mine I was keeping up with it till it neared the end and a few small items were left off but it's within a grand or so.

Engineered Drawings 475.00
3 copies of the drawings 10.00
Permits 217.00
Parking at the Courthouse 5.00
Doc- Box 51.00
Reinspect footings 51.00 could have been avoided
Surveyors 375.00 could have basically done myself
Foundation Brick/ Block 1425.00
Termite for slab 175.00
Footing/ Slab 3559.00
Framing materials 4723.82
Hex bolts for LVL’s 58.76
I- Beam for OH Door header 585.00
Entry door/ windows 395.00
More framing supplies 299.31
More framing supplies 116.72
More framing supplies 125.74
Roofing shingles/ ridge vents 681.22
Siding labor and materials 3800.00
Labor install shingles 750.00
Paint labor 500.00
Brick front labor/ material 1000.00
Driveway tie in 1100.00
Dirt for grading 125.00
Gutters 250.00
Garage doors 2000.00 did myself at cost saved at least a grand
Electrical materials 1000.00 did labor myself
Ditch digger rental 75.00
3 other failed inspections 150.00

Total 24088.57

Don’t forget the numerous trips back and forth to the Hardware store that the receipts were unaccounted for.


Jimmy

 

[wrigh003]

Thanks nova65- that's a real help. Do you have an accountant wife (like me) , or are you one yourself? I know that if I do manage to start this project, I'll wind up with an itemized list like that, whether I want to make one or not.

Is this the garage visible over there as your avatar? Question, if so- how much do you figure it increased the $ of the build to add that second floor? If I'm thinking about proposing a $25000 addition to our property, the wife will probably want to see some extra living space/ guest quarters/ an office out of that money...

 

[junkman104]

We are building a home in Murphy, maybe we will move in by thanksgiving. I have to have a place for my toys and parts before the move.

 

[nova65ss]

Thanks nova65- that's a real help. Do you have an accountant wife (like me) , or are you one yourself? I know that if I do manage to start this project, I'll wind up with an itemized list like that, whether I want to make one or not.

Is this the garage visible over there as your avatar? Question, if so- how much do you figure it increased the $ of the build to add that second floor? If I'm thinking about proposing a $25000 addition to our property, the wife will probably want to see some extra living space/ guest quarters/ an office out of that money...

Nope not an accountant I'm in the garage door business, it has it's ups and downs I just wanted to see how much if any I saved from having a contractor come in and do it. Actually had one guy give me an estimate of 29000 complete, boy would he have lost some money.

I got a few estimates and it was only a few grand more to have the upstairs added. I also went with 12' ceilings wich added another grand or so but felt it was worth it. Good luck with your build.

Jimmy

 

[brownbagg]

18 yards at 100 yard. 1000 labor , about 3000 for slab only. very rough numbers.

 

[z28toz06]

Umm... I have an idea. See below

And add ten percent!

It always costs more and it always takes longer!

NOw get out there and build that garage, now that we've given you a pep talk!!

 

[red vette mike]

I am about 90% though with my 31x54x12 (plus a compressor room). I have about $50k in it. It is 1770 feet total which is $28.24 per foot. I paid $3.50 per foot for framing labor (a Hispanic crew could really go and 'aimed to please') I bought a roof truss system ($6300) for the roof since it is a 31' clear span-the truss builder rented me his boom truck and two helpers for $400-$ well spent). The slab was $1.30 per foot (labor) to form up and finish. Concrete (6") was around $5k. The roofing (Hispanics again) was $38. per square. I installed the ceilings (Luan board) and the walls (Luan). That took 6 days of 'getting after it'. I am going to caulk and paint ceiling and walls this week. The shop has heat/ac ($3900.) It is brick-labor rate was $325 per 1000. Bricks cost $259 per 1000 (14000 bricks+mortar+sand = $4000+). They are to install the lift (Rotary) this week. I am going to fabricate the swing open garage doors (4). It has been a fun project. I bought all the materials from 84 Lumber. They gave me a contractor's pricing rate-make sure you get this since it can save you 10-25%.
Good luck.
Mike Martin
Madison, ms.