Coving Wall to Floor Joints

[lincolnxing]

What type of material would you recommend to use for coving the wall to floor joints the old fashion way? Anyone have experience at this and have any advice is greatly appreicated.


Thank you.

 

[mhinch]

Use vinyl cove base from a big box store

 

[lincolnxing]

Why vinyl cove base instead of rubber or doing it the old fashioned way?

 

[06wt]

Why vinyl cove base instead of rubber or doing it the old fashioned way?

elaborate on "the old fashion way"

 

[jack bacon]

I might use Trex or similar deck material to transition the floor to wall

jack

 

[lincolnxing]

elaborate on "the old fashion way"

Using a cove trowel and materials as described in this document.


http://www.epoxysystems.com/720.aspx

 

[ssleepingbeauty]

If I am understanding you correctly, are you asking how to cove the floor up the walls? Where it looks like the floor goes right up the wall to say about 6"? So the floor is also the wall base?

We do this in the flooring industry all of the time. Mainly hospital's or public restroom's etc. With sheet vinyl and I have seen it done with epoxy. It's for sanitary reasons. Even in the professional industry, there are very few installers that are capable of doing this. If you are planning on doing this with epoxy, I would imagine it would be much easier than vinyl.

You could take a 6" broad knife and cut, grind a 1/2" radius on one corner of it. Then use it to spread the epoxy on the wall with the radius corner pressed to the floor. ( Make sure you mask off the top of wall first) You could snap a chalk line for your height, then mask it off so you will have a nice straight line at the top of your base. Now you will have a nice coat of epoxy base on the wall that will have a nice uniform radius that transitions to the floor.

 

[lincolnxing]

Yes. Yes. Yes. Perfect. Thank you.

 

[hldtyt]

Never seen it used, but it looks like it might work.

http://www.speedcove.com/

 

[lincolnxing]

That stuff from speedcove is awesome. Called them up yesterday and he quoted me $5.00 a linear foot and at 91ft x $5.00=455.00+tax is right around $500.00 just for coving. Way too expensive for our budget.I wish I could find something cheap that would last atleast a couple of year. I am tempted to try elastomeric caulk as described in this document from Futura Coatings.

http://www.futuracoatings.com/pdf/Pdf_715.pdf




What do you all think about using elastomeric caulk for coving? The stuff sure has held up great on the side of our house where we patched missing stucco.

 

[thegarageguy]

An integral cove is done with a thickened version of epoxy plus sand or quartz. It's troweled on with a cove trowel. It takes some practice and has a very high learning curve. We now can fly creating cove.

As for speed cove, I find it more difficult to use. You have to still prime the wall to stick it on. Cut the angles to fit them as if its regular home depot base molding. Patch all the seams, then coat with quartz or chips, completely not worth it.

Check out this vid, they make it look easy but believe me, it takes some skill.

Hear is a quick pick of cove work

 

[lincolnxing]

Wow. Thanks. That video really sums it up. Nice picture as well. Cheapest route might be just buying extra epoxy and sand to create a cove....Hmmm

 

[hldtyt]

I would like to see pics from any DIY guys who did their own cove base. Anyone?

 

[lincolnxing]

Same here. I really would like a DIY cove on the cheap!.

 

[Frank Elson]

Never seen it used, but it looks like it might work.

http://www.speedcove.com/

damn, that stuff looks the biz. I have to see if there's anything similar here in the UK.

 

[scooby074]

An integral cove is done with a thickened version of epoxy plus sand or quartz. It's troweled on with a cove trowel. It takes some practice and has a very high learning curve. We now can fly creating cove.

As for speed cove, I find it more difficult to use. You have to still prime the wall to stick it on. Cut the angles to fit them as if its regular home depot base molding. Patch all the seams, then coat with quartz or chips, completely not worth it.

Check out this vid, they make it look easy but believe me, it takes some skill.

Hear is a quick pick of cove work

Thats a great vid. Like alot of things, when a pro does it it looks effortless, but the truth is different.

Interesting the way the guy worked the topcoat with a 12" squeegie on his hands and knees. I think that'll give a better result. Ive usually seen it done with much larger squigees while standing up.

 

[thegarageguy]

Truth be told, there are lot of ways to skin a cat. It all depends on A. what your comfy with, B. What the situation is, C. the product you are using. D. what look you are trying to achieve. I use flat, sponge, notched and window squeegees, all types of rollers, magic trowels, all kinds of metal trowels, applicator pads, the list goes on and on.

I'm not sure if you guys notice but the vid is old, like late 70's early 80's looking. There has been advancements not only in technology but in applications as well. The main reason I put up the vid though was to see a sanitary base or integral cove being applied.

Hope it helps

 

[ssleepingbeauty]

Just go to your local flooring store and ask them about cove stick. It comes in 4' length's. Probably only cost about $.50 a lineal foot.
http://images.google.com/imgres?img...ox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=X&um=1

 

[hldtyt]

A question to the epoxy professionals, where would one find the quartz sand at a resonable price?

 

[lincolnxing]

Here is a question for all. What are the three cheapest methods to achieve an integral cove base with epoxy floor for the DIY?

 

[lincolnxing]

Well, I need a cheap DIY solution for an integral cove so I am going to test elastomeric caulk and see how it works. Why wouldnt it work with epoxy on top? Thoughts?

 

[hldtyt]

Will epoxy stick to that?

 

[thegarageguy]

If there where a cheaper and faster alternative, wouldn't you think we as pros would be doing it by now?

 

[lincolnxing]

No offense. Please dont reply to anyone's text. Your useless. Thanks. OH NO WAIT, your usefulllllll for yourelf.. You, YOU, YOU, YOU. YOU. YOU. Go pound salt dude.

 

[lincolnxing]

Now that the "thegarageguy" has had his little ***** rant..... Back to my question.

I need a cheap DIY solution for an integral cove so I am going to test elastomeric caulk and see how it works. Why wouldnt it work with epoxy on top? Thoughts?

 

[thegarageguy]

The only one ranting, raving and bitching is you. All I can do is lead a horse to water but I can't force it to drink. I guess my problem is that this time I am dealing with a jackass instead.

 

[lincolnxing]

Will you answer our questions or not? If not, dont post, its pretty simple. Thank you.

 

[hldtyt]

Going off like that will have the rest of the "professionals" running to help you. Not! He was just being honest as he does it for a living. In his world time is money and money is time. He doesnt want to waste either. If he knew a faster way wouldnt he be doing it if it worked. Just relax.

 

[lincolnxing]

Hopefully it will get alteast one of them to answer our questions. Thanks. Ill relax. The sad part is, they get more business when they are honest and answer questions. People pay for a service so they can hold someone accountable. We are probably going to find out what "thegarageguy" is worth, pretty soon. Either he/she will answer our questions, run, or rant.... For his/her sake, I hope for the first.

 

[lincolnxing]

Ran........... How sad.

 

[z28snksknr]

An integral cove is done with a thickened version of epoxy plus sand or quartz. It's troweled on with a cove trowel. It takes some practice and has a very high learning curve. We now can fly creating cove.

As for speed cove, I find it more difficult to use. You have to still prime the wall to stick it on. Cut the angles to fit them as if its regular home depot base molding. Patch all the seams, then coat with quartz or chips, completely not worth it.

Check out this vid, they make it look easy but believe me, it takes some skill.

Wow. Thanks. That video really sums it up. Nice picture as well. Cheapest route might be just buying extra epoxy and sand to create a cove....Hmmm

No offense. Please dont reply to anyone's text. Your useless. Thanks. OH NO WAIT, your usefulllllll for yourelf.. You, YOU, YOU, YOU. YOU. YOU. Go pound salt dude.

Did I miss something, or did he answer your question, you respond saying his answer was what you were looking for, then you ask him not to respond again??

 

[lincolnxing]

I know...Wierd thread. I asked this question:

Here is a question for all. What are the three cheapest methods to achieve an integral cove base with epoxy floor for the DIY?