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Coworkers/classmates bad work ethic.

techenthusiast

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Good guys but problems at work...Just wondering how you guys deal with this and what you tell yourself to keep sane?


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tbaggz

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Shame works well.let them be the **** of a joke a few times.say stuff like I hope he doesnt keep his house that dirty and cluttered.and refuse to work with them.but you better be on point yourself.
 

cjn1014

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Start calling the lazy one "Hans". As in "he always has his hans in his pockets".
 

beaconterraone

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Union? :D

Is it affecting your productivity directly? If not, it's best to just let them fail. Alienating them by directly confronting them will only cause you problems.

If it's affecting your productivity (team projects, not allowing you to finish, etc.), you could try some mini-posters deftly put up when they're not looking.
 

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After 4 decades in the work force I determined the best course of action for me was to "Mind my own business".
 

Goldhawg

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Lead by example. Just keep doing your work as diligently as you can. Your results will tend to lead to better outcomes for you, and eventually they may get a clue.
 

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After 4 decades in the work force I determined the best course of action for me was to "Mind my own business".

+1

I can't believe how many people can't figure that out for themselves, that's not directed towards the OP.
 

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After 4 decades in the work force I determined the best course of action for me was to "Mind my own business".

Yup. totally right!!! Don't worry about anyone but yourself, focus on what your doing and how you can do it better, faster etc.

You cant control anyone else's behavior, only your own.
 

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I think it depends on what type of work you do. If you're in a hazardous profession and your safety depends on teamwork then you owe it to yourself and your family to say something to poor performers. Otherwise, I'd agree with concentrating on your own work and let management sort out slackers as they see fit.
 

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Re: Coworkers/classmates bad work ethic.
I think it depends on what type of work you do. If you're in a hazardous profession and your safety depends on teamwork then you owe it to yourself and your family to say something to poor performers. Otherwise, I'd agree with concentrating on your own work and let management sort out slackers as they see fit.

This, im in offshore industry and i have no issue speaking up if someones not doing something to the letter as its my life thats on the line.

Also further exception to the above posts is if they are a direct report as your e one that gets it in the neck if senior management come along

They have been strict with the 5 s at my place so drilling it into the guys i supervise that its not going away and they might as well get used to cleaning up and maintaining a tidy work station.
 
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How is bad work ethic translates into not being a good housekeeper?
I worked with a guy whose everything was spotless. He did nothing to get anything dirty.
 

ugotd8

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I used to have problems with guys at work wen I was in my twenties. One day I was complaining to a manager and he said to me "You know, he's just trying to get thru the day and get home to his family just like you". One of the best pieces of work advice I ever got.

In the end, it's work. We aren't volunteers, we are paid to be there. Over the long haul, those that are missing the work ethic will weed themselves out. That particular kind of irresponsibility will bleed into every facet of their lives and bring them down over time.

You on the other hand will need to lead by example rather than complain or obsess over what others are doing. You can't change people, period. Take the high road and sleep well every night.
 

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^That's another way of saying if the manager's happy then what they do is no concern of yours. As far as work ethic goes. Try to see it in a different light and see if you see it differently. See?...
 

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I employ 6 part timers right now and 4 full timers. I see who wants to work and who doesn't. I have cameras just because of the cash business and safety, but I see who has down time and decides to clean or sweep. I see the people who actually take pride in what they do. These are the same people that I surprise with a bonus when I have the extra money. I don't put it in my pocket. I choose to put it in their pocket because they care. An employer notices unless they themselves are lazy and don't care. I depend on these people to succeed and take care of them for that. Unfortunately the ones who are lazy and disruptive need to go. I hate firing people in this economy, but I can't provide my customers with anything but the best experience they can have.
 

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When I hear of things like this I am reminder of this story;

The story goes that Henry Ford once hired an efficiency expert to evaluate his company. After a few weeks, the expert made his report, which was highly favorable except for one thing.

"It's that man down the hall,? said the expert. "Every time I go by his office he's just sitting there with his feet on his deck. He's wasting your money.'

"That man,? replied Mr. Ford, "once had an idea that saved us millions of dollars. At the time, I believe his feet were planted right where they are now.

So just do your best and all will be right in your world.

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Honestly, the 2nd part of your question is the hard part. Everyone seems to get the 1st part, which is 'mind your own business'. The thing about the second part is that it involves your reaction to what you see going on around you, which requires some pretty serious self discipline at times. It can be quite difficult for those of us who 'care' about what we are doing and the effect we know it will have for the company to have to work along side those who effect the company in various negative ways (not to mention irritate us with their foolishness). With almost as many decades as SARG, I agree with him completely. If you can master the mindset every day to just go in and do YOUR very best, and let EVERYTHING else go (including the stupid decisions that come down from management), you'll be better for it. If anyone asks about your opinion of someone's performance give an honest answer, especially if that someone is standing there. Never make any bones about your work ethic. Other than that, keep your mouth shut and make yourself as valuable as you can to your employer. If it becomes obvious over time that your employer doesn't care at all, then go somewhere else.
My best trick, which not everyone will be allowed to do, is to keep an mp3 player/earbuds in my pocket (our employer thankfully allows this). When the kids in the shop get too obnoxious in their foolish conversations, I tune them out.
 

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Everyone who said "mind my own business" is right, but I would also add,

No matter what you do, your main job is to get along with the people you work with. Whoever is running that shop wants a working system, and that's important to keep in mind.

I had a pretty good job building guitars, when I was around 20. Once I had gotten my routine streamlined, my mind was free to focus on what I didn't like about the people around me. I see this a lot at work still. I felt like I was outproducing the three people I worked with, and I figured I was free to act like an idiot.

My boss tried to talk to me, he was actually really creative in explaining his point of view, but I kept being a jerk, and when he let me go he explained that my work was very good, but he had a problem to solve, and he couldn't solve it by firing the whole rest of the crew.

It would be nice if this experience benefitted someone younger, but who knows?
 

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i actually work more efficently and get more done when i'm pissed at a co worker

:dunno:

the faster i work the more time i have to f*ck with someone else :shocking:


but if you're gonna do that, ya gotta be on your "A" game, and not f*ck up.


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After 4 decades in the work force I determined the best course of action for me was to "Mind my own business".

This is some of the best advise you will ever get. at 52 years of age I follow this every day when it comes to the '' SLACKERS " I work with. besides , when your bosses brother is the head " SLACKER " you can't do anything about it no how:dunno:
 
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