Craftsman 5186 vise restore

[JeremyBurke]

I got the last of the cleaning done today at lunch on my little 5186. Here are the final cleanup pictures of the small parts.





There will now be a lull in the action. My middle son has been asking to go fishing with grandpa since his older brother got to over a year ago. So this weekend 3 generations of Burke men will drown some worms. If dad's perfect spot holds up we should catch enough fish to feed us all as well. I may include a few pictures of the haul as well. Cheers and have a safe and happy fourth everyone.

 

[nine4gmc]

Drown a few for me, it's been too long since I went fishing but we will be bbq'ing this weekend so not a lot of work going on here either. Y'all be safe and have a good one!

 

[8man]

Nice work on the vice. I look forward to seeing the write up on what you do to protect the handle.

 

[JeremyBurke]

Drown a few for me, it's been too long since I went fishing but we will be bbq'ing this weekend so not a lot of work going on here either. Y'all be safe and have a good one!

Thanks Nine: my dad is a BBQ master as well so I bet we are either going to be having Briscket, Pork Sholder, or Ribs this weekend in addition to the fish. will also make the menu I think.

Nice work on the vice. I look forward to seeing the write up on what you do to protect the handle.

So do I 8man. As of right now I only have ideas, I don't actually know what I am going to do.

 

[nine4gmc]

I used to use paste wax on bare metal but found a spray that lasts longer called FLUIDFILM. I keep a rag wet with it and since I use it on all my bare metal now, I just walk around wiping everything down every week or so when I think about it.

 

[JeremyBurke]

Nine, is that available at the big box stores usually or is more of a fastenal, MSC kind of purchase?

Update 1: I just broke one of my cardinal rules of this thread. Sorry Nine. I have Google, I will figure out where it is near me. You did me a solid pointing it out. Thanks I'll take it from here.

Update 2: Looks like, for those that want to know, it is stocked in most O'Reilly's Autoparts stores and Autozones as well. Thanks again Nine for the tip I will be picking up a can soon.

 

[JeremyBurke]

I haven't worked on the vise for a little while but I did take my son fishing with his grandpa (my dad) for the first time. Here is his first fish.



and here is the full haul for the day.



The second day was even better but I didn't get pictures of those fish.

I am also proud to report all my boys ate them well and want to go again immediately.

 

[nine4gmc]

Vises can wait, good times spent with your father and son at the same time will not be around forever.

 

[balane]

That's a really pretty fish. Not too shabby for a Cubs fan.

 

[JeremyBurke]

Balane and Nine, Thanks guys. I wish fishing was always like the last 2 hours of the last day. Me, my dad, and my 2 oldest boys and we caught a 12"+ rainbow trout on every cast except the 1 when I broke off the hook while setting it. It was a truly awesome day. Can't wait until the youngest boy is old enough to go. Neither can he, although he did help pick 25 pounds of blueberries while we were out, so he had a pretty good time too.

 

[JeremyBurke]

Despite the completely unusual thunderstorms on Sunday, I got a little sunny weather on Saturday so I could prime the static and base for my little Craftsman 5186.


It should be noted this picture was taken halfway through priming when I realized I needed to shake my paint can more prior to proceeding.

I hope to get the color cotes added this week during my lunch breaks. I will be using this Color as a near match to the old Craftsman blue.


Here is a link to the website

 

[jakemac]

That RO Lagoon looks a little too Teal for my eyes. I still think the Valspar blue I listed in post #10 is closer to the original.

 

[JeremyBurke]

That RO Lagoon looks a little too Teal for my eyes. I still think the Valspar blue I listed in post #10 is closer to the original.

Thanks Jakemac, I haven't been able to get to my local Lowe's (its a hike and HD is practically next door) to check that out yet. I picked up the Navy RO paint, looks like my link didn't work as intended and sends you to the page but not the right color. You are right the Lagoon is very teal. I went with the Navy which is more like this.



But I am hoping to make it to Lowe's tomorrow and I will pick up a can. Nevermind turns out my Lowe's doesn't carry the color. And while I appreciate the tip I am not driving 25 Miles to the next place that carries it. Unless I find another vise or cool tool in the process.

Thanks again for the tip.

 

[jakemac]

Looking forward to seeing the final results.

 

[JeremyBurke]

I finally did it. I had enough time to get out last evening and get the first coat of my blue paint on the vise. I hung up the pieces on the make shift paint stand I created with scrap wood laying around. I just predrilled a few holes and used a couple of vinyl coated hooks that I think it took about 5 minutes to make.



I then laid on the first coat of paint on the parts.




I will have a drip to sand out later as well.

 

[drivesitfar]

Jeremy: nice quick little painting stand you built to hang Crafty from. looks great.

just an FYI and i'd like to hear from others on this, but if i get a run i don't like i usually wipe it off when it's wet and re spray that spot. i wonder if others do instead of sanding later and maybe dulling the paint's shine?

keep it up and for your first vise restore you are doing great work.

 

[JeremyBurke]

Jeremy: nice quick little painting stand you built to hang Crafty from. looks great.

just an FYI and i'd like to hear from others on this, but if i get a run i don't like i usually wipe it off when it's wet and re spray that spot. i wonder if others do instead of sanding later and maybe dulling the paint's shine?

keep it up and for your first vise restore you are doing great work.

Thanks Drives. I was planning to see how the drip looked today after drying. If its still pronounced I was going to sand before my next coat to keep the shine alive. But I didn't even consider wiping, when I have tried in the past I always seem to make a bigger mess. I can't wait to see what others say.

 

[Fretters]

For drips/runs, I've always found a soft bristle artist brush, dipped in white, (mineral), spirit and applied to the wet paint with a combined stippling and brushing effect gets the drip/run sorted. If you catch it early enough, it allows the paint to flow out smooth. Worst case scenario, if the paint is still somewhat wet but the brush won't blend it, get a bit of cloth soaked in white spirit and rub it out. It's easier than phaffing about once the paint is dry.

 

[JeremyBurke]

For drips/runs, I've always found a soft bristle artist brush, dipped in white, (mineral), spirit and applied to the wet paint with a combined stippling and brushing effect gets the drip/run sorted. If you catch it early enough, it allows the paint to flow out smooth. Worst case scenario, if the paint is still somewhat wet but the brush won't blend it, get a bit of cloth soaked in white spirit and rub it out. It's easier than phaffing about once the paint is dry.

Fretters Thanks for the tip. I will try this next time I mess up which I assume will be the next time I paint. Cheers

 

[Fretters]

Forgot to mention. By the looks of it, you're applying way too much paint. When you're painting, don't try for perfect coats, especially with the first coat. If you try to get absolute coverage with each coat, you'll generally end up over applying which is why you're getting those sags. Just methodically move the spray can to get slight overlaps on each line. It'll look as if you're not getting perfect coverage when you look at it against the light, but the paint will flow somewhat as it dries. Plus, it's better to apply several light coats, if necessary, than trying to finish it off in just one or two thicker coats.

 

[JeremyBurke]

Forgot to mention. By the looks of it, you're applying way too much paint. When you're painting, don't try for perfect coats, especially with the first coat. If you try to get absolute coverage with each coat, you'll generally end up over applying which is why you're getting those sags. Just methodically move the spray can to get slight overlaps on each line. It'll look as if you're not getting perfect coverage when you look at it against the light, but the paint will flow somewhat as it dries. Plus, it's better to apply several light coats, if necessary, than trying to finish it off in just one or two thicker coats.

Thanks Fretters, I think i knew that and I started well but then I kept fussing with it and ended up with the sags. Hopefully I will learn from this screw up and the extra work it is going to take me to fix it so I can do better on the next one. Cheers.

 

[Fretters]

We've all been there. The best way to learn is from doing it the wrong way. Painting is one of those things which is a bit of a pain to get the hang of, as how it appears when first applied and once it's drying/dried can vary quite a bit. You'll get the knack with a bit of practice. I'm quite sure there's not one of us who doesn't get caught by a run, sag or drip on occasion. It's resisting that urge to try and get each coat perfect which is the main thing. That'll catch you out each and every time.

 

[JeremyBurke]

Well on the bright side I now have a project again. I get to break out the emery cloth and water and get it smooth and shiny.

 

[jakemac]

For drips, I use a paper towel while the paint is wet. I just lightly touch it to the drip and allow the towel to **** it up. Then I give the area a light re-spray to cover the damage if needed.

BTW - It's coming out nicely. I'm eager to see it finished.

 

[JeremyBurke]

Well since I didn't have Drives, Fretters, or Jake's excellent advise in my arsenal when I made the mistakes I had to break out the steel wool the next day to repair my drips. There was one on each of the static and dynamic jaws. So I sanded back to smooth, blew it off with a gentle air can and rubbed it all down with acetone again.

I hope you can see it in these pictures.




I then put a much lighter (Thanks Fretters ) second coat on the parts. (A keen eye will see 2 wires on the base. I hung it up the opposite way this time to make sure I wasn't totally missing parts.)



This is where the drip used to be after the 2nd coat and about 2 hours of dry time after application.


The paint right in the middle of the lettering looks a little strange here. I honestly didn't notice it until looking at this picture for the post. So I hope it is a photographic anomaly or goes away after the next coat.

I included this after 2 hours of dry time and not in direct sunlight in hopes that it would show the color how it will look in the shop. To my eye this is nearly exactly the color this vise was in the blue spots that remained when I first got it.



Here is the base the day it came to my house for color and restoration reference.


Thank you to all you guys that are following along and offering advise. This is my first time with a lot of this stuff and I am learning a lot and really enjoying myself.

Cheers.

 

[drivesitfar]

Looking good and with the deburring wheel to shine up the bare steel i'm sure it will look even better once you have it put back together.

 

[larryq]

Looking great so far. If I could make a suggestion, for maximum shine and toughness a bottle of 2k Spraymax clear would do wonders. About $20 per can so, not cheap, but it can really keep the chips away.

If you do clearcoat it I'd let the paint set for at least two weeks, preferably in warm dry weather, before clearing. Maybe give the paint some tooth with a little 600-800 grit beforehand too.

 

[Fretters]

You've made a lovely recovery from that little paint mishap. Looks very good.

With that lettering, if it is that the paint is a bit thin there, one method worth trying is to get the vice up so that you can easily get below it's height with the can, and then literally spray a X across the centre of the lettering, starting each leg of the X at the bottom of the vice and moving the can upwards towards the other corner, then just spray the rest of it and the lettering as normal. You sometimes tend to find with raised parts that you only get light coverage due to the angle you're spraying from. Doing an upwards X seems to make you attack everything from an angle completely different to what you'd normally use, in my experience, and without having to do some creative limb bending whilst spraying.

 

[JeremyBurke]

Thanks Drives: I sure am having a ton of fun doing this.

Thanks Larryq: I will look into that clear coat. I think this is going to be a gift for my dad, and I want him to use it, so whatever I can to to prolong the life would be great.

Thanks Fretters: I honestly don't know what is causing the look but I will follow your advice if it turns our to be the paint is thin. I think I already have the perfect spot picked out to do the painting if needed.

ALL: As always thanks so much for the advice and encouragement. I have really enjoyed this project and I hope it leads to others.

 

[JeremyBurke]

Per Fretters, suggestion I added a shelf to my paint rack so I could get a better angle at the letters.



I then added a third and I think final coat of the blue paint to the vise.






There is not reason to include this shot other than I thought the lens flare looked cool.

 

[jakemac]

Did you hear an angelic chorus when you took that last picture ?

 

[JeremyBurke]

Did you hear an angelic chorus when you took that last picture ?

Yes sir I sure did.

 

[JeremyBurke]

This is my only excuse for not working on an projects this weekend. Sorry guys this will have to do. http://flic.kr/p/o7MNev

 

[CoopVA]

Good reason...


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[JeremyBurke]

I got a chance to quickly put the Little Vise together last night. I hadn't actually put the main nut in when this picture was taken.



The Delay was caused by a few family trips. The main one being this.

 

[balane]

Crater Lake? I SCUBA dived there before. Beautiful spot!!

 

[JeremyBurke]

Crater Lake? I SCUBA dived there before. Beautiful spot!!

It is Crater Lake, I agree it is a beautiful place. One of my favorites in Oregon and in my opinion on the top of the must see list for the state.

SCUBA huh, that sounds like fun. Could you see the bottom? I always assumed that water would have great visibility. I have done a little of that but mostly when on vacation on an island.

 

[balane]

It's a nice dive, you can see some of the bottom but of course it's very deep, like 2000 feet, so there's no way a recreational diver is going to get past 100 feet down or so. But in the end it's a lake so there's only so much to look at down there. There's at least 100 feet of visibility, probably more. To be honest the location is more enjoyable on the top side though. The best part of diving clean, fresh water for me is that your gear comes out really clean.

 

[drivesitfar]

funny how i'm learning about diving while reading about a vise restore. great story Balane and awesome picture of Crater Lake Jeremy.

keep up the good work Jeremy and you might want to hit the handle and the swivel pins and any other bare metal one more time with the deburring wheel. also have a bottle of boiled linseed oil to brush or put some on a rag and put on before the flash rusting happens again. not sure you can see it with the naked eye, but the camera picked it up so the rust process is happening.

Awesome job so far on your Craftsman vise that might be a 60th Birthday present for Dad? you are a good son if that is the case because that vise is a keeper.

 

[JeremyBurke]

Thanks Drives. I redid some buffing on those again today. Then I added a little WD40 for now once I get it back home to the shop i plan to try out the stuff that Nine4GMC recommended back a page or 2.



After I bought it though, I read the can and it says a Lanolin product. So I guess I could just rub a sheep on it too.