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Hi Everyone,

Im new to the site but have been working in the garage since I could pick up a wrench. I own several brands of tools and different sets, I do carpentry,welding, and mechanic work in my spare time away from the firehouse. But Im here looking for opinions on the Craftsman 540 Pc mechanic tool set, I own craftsman tools (MADE IN USA), and love them I do my own work on my truck and Jeep(XJ) along with my buddies JEEPS. but what are yalls thoughts on the set??
 
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Craftsman China stuff is comparable to harbor freight for way more $$$

this is a BIT of an exageration.. lets be realistic here.... craftsman is still the "most for your money" and will work fine for you .. hopefully you can find that set on sale.. many people here use craftsman and are more than happy with them - and some people call it junk, instead of just explaining that they dont like how much of it is made oversea's now. i have no real complaints on any of my crafsman stuff, new or old..

another option.. is buying one of the "ultimate socket" craftsman sets - and just buying some screwdrivers and wrenches to go with it..

beware of the "you should buy american" crowd - that will try and convince you nothing else will work unless you spend twice what you need to..
 
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from what i understand the bigger sets are still made in USA.its worth checking further.if you like craftsman ,they are a hard to beat value.if you dont mind china made tools then its debatable.
 

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from what i understand the bigger sets are still made in USA.its worth checking further.if you like craftsman ,they are a hard to beat value.if you dont mind china made tools then its debatable.

Some of the bigger sets are starting to show up with Chinese tools mixed in.
 

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That's a pretty nice set, IMO. If i was just starting out, i would buy it regardless of COO.
 

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The old USA 540-pc. sets (9-36540) were replaced with Chinese ones (9-49540) last year sometime. They have different stock numbers.

An easy way to tell the difference is the Chinese sets come with the new 84-tooth thin profile ratchets and the USA sets come with 36-tooth raised panels.

That 84 tooth is a major upgrade. RP36's **** big time.
 

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if you work in the snap-on marketing dept.

the general advice was ok but his claiming that snap-on is the best of everything gets old.

the claim that the combo wrench is old school and not needed? um, ok......

if you would say skip the standard length and jump right to a longer version combo i could agree. too many times when you need and open end and too many times that a ratcheting wrench won't fit.
 
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Can't and won't speak to Chinese-manufactured Craftsman sockets (don't know if they're making them yet, haven't seen them), but, recent production US-made Craftsman sockets are one of the best bang-for-the-buck purchases you can make.

The vast majority of the complaints come from people who don't own them or don't use them, and they're usually complaints about the appearance of the socket, such as yellowish chrome/nickel plating and laser-etching, or about how the deep sockets are broached too far down/not far enough down when compared to the complainer's pet brand.

The fact is, while they may not be as refined or as perfectly chromed as some other brands, they're entirely capable sockets that can be had for incredibly cheap when bought as a large lot.

Besides Craftsman, there's also SK, Carlyle, GearWrench to name a few brands that are all available for INCREDIBLY cheaper than a bigger name brand, if you're not inclined to shop around used, or if you'd like to buy more than 8-10 sockets at $10+ a pop.

Of course, if you want a particular brand, awesome, more power to you, buy what YOU want.
 

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If I had to start over the Cman sets would be on my short list. They are a better value to the end user than ever, so much cheaper that its foolish to do without basic tools. The price makes them almost disposable, don't like something upgrade it. Not much loss even if it hit the scrap can.
 

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I've never gone wrong with Craftsman USA made tools for the past 25+ years. Whether I've bought them used or new, they've done the job well.

I still use the same Mechanic's Tool Set I bought in 1990 as my "go to set" when I do repairs in the garage. I still have the receipt for it when I bought it in August 1990.
 

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Adam.C has got right. :thumbup:

His recommendations is one of heirloom quality tools that will last a lifetime and never disappoint. :bowdown:

Though I agree with what he's saying, the fact that his avatar shows Craftsman sockets instead of Snappies gives me a brief pause.:headscrat

Always, always, always buy the best you can afford at the time you need the tool because you can always upgrade later and sometimes you don't need to. Avoid cheap tools like the plague, they only waste your time and money (and in some cases your health - smoke, lead/cadmium waste, injuries).
 

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Sockets and Ratchets: Less is more<O:p</O:p
Every auto mechanic needs a good 3/8” socket set. Most modern cars are metric, so start there. The best sockets in the world are (arguably) Snap-On flank drive. They are strong, hard, and fit tight. A good socket will flex less, bite harder, and remove stuck fasteners easier and with less dmage to the fastener. If you work on newer cars, race cars, or airplanes, maybe you don’t need these. For everything else, you will benefit from having great sockets. Buy second hand on GJ or ebay in like new condition. Expect to pay $60-80 if you are patient and smart. Alternatives include Koken, Proto, Mac. Williams USA are not equivalent to Snap On. I advise caution in going cheap here.

You know this how?


Too much lately?

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Williams USA does not equal Snap-on : true in that the names are not the same, false in terms of quality. They aren't as up to date (as I recall, old Snappies can become Williams USA tools in about 2-4 years) but the quality is still there.
 

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Most of this is opinion but there is one thing that is pretty much a fact, the ols ?Sears ratchet is pitiful and out of all the mistakes they made this had to take the cake, for decades, millions of them, maybe it was by design to pull people bacvk to the store,,, ha
But............... while most of the commenters on this matter are a lot smarter I been at this a while in some ruff neighborhoods and a lot of opinion about tools is pretty much that.
In the grand scheme of things the amount of difference it makes to most mechanics is about miniscule at best. Yes, there are better things and some worth tailoring in a specific trade environment, had it happen last week where I grabbed up a knockoff vs the real thing one size larger. Really wasn't the fault of the tool.
My world is pretty rugged and I am really more impressed all the time and its coming to power tools and welding equipment.
The cloned hard line hand tool has arrived though minus a few pieces and its more about marketing than being able to make it. I was speculative about some Kobalt dykes but at half the price it was worth a try, so far so good.
The old socket set found at Grants and fleas as an option for 5$ is gone. There were a couple co's that made them, I bet one is still in biz. Many stripped at first use, a few pieces survived in common sizes and last right along with the rest, its hard to wrap the mind around something that looks like a toy but it works.
Back to the point, as for it not being good enough,,, more opin than fact. A fact is the ratchet that come with the flea 3.4 socket sets was junk with regular use but the rest of it you paid 75 for outlasted several roughnecks that didn't care as it wasn't their ****.
Wanna see some real worked sheet, look in farm shops, old truck shops and oil field contractors.
In comparison some beginner or soft hand type aint going to be able to subject the stuff to this and even if he wanted to the variety he can come up with is limited. In automotive work today,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, the combo reigns as what does the lions share of real brutal work is the impact socket, now days it is generally accepted that the generic import appears to be about as durable as any even for the "professional" mechanic.
 

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My Bud was a career guy, did invest in a few SK as he went along in the small sizes as Adam suggested where the duty cycle was hi. I got some, they mix in with some others, all are well proven, not much real distinction in end user quality as far as I can tell and not very dependant on brand or cost. The cheap seem to ride along side in a community tool pool where they do get used to the point they never return to a cozy drawer.
 

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Buy the Cman, get on with life. There shouldn't be any remorse, used the stuff along side the rest for decades, after a while you wont think about it.
 

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Williams USA does not equal Snap-on : true in that the names are not the same, false in terms of quality. They aren't as up to date (as I recall, old Snappies can become Williams USA tools in about 2-4 years) but the quality is still there.

Yeah, I thought general consensus here was that the sockets were pretty much identical, save for the stamping and what not.

Ratchets, the B-52E series are internally the 936 series, so, last generation.
 

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The picture shows wrenches. You have to read the writing below the picture carefully. My guess is, what is written is what that person heard and understood. Very likely sockets and wrenches share some things in common, but the broaches and heat treating are different. Which would make sense, right?

Can we move on now? I answered the question. I based my statements above on above linked post which I believe to be accurate. If you'd like to quibble, the linked post awaits your pithy comments.

Thank you for posting that link.
 

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Hi Everyone,

Im new to the site but have been working in the garage since I could pick up a wrench. I own several brands of tools and different sets, I do carpentry,welding, and mechanic work in my spare time away from the firehouse. But I'm here looking for opinions on the Craftsman 540 Pc mechanic tool set, I own craftsman tools (MADE IN USA), and love them I do my own work on my truck and Jeep(XJ) along with my buddies JEEPS. but what are yalls thoughts on the set??

Take a hard look at the Parts List and what you already own -

PARTS LIST FOR 540 PC. MECHANICS TOOL SET #36540
http://c.shld.net/assets/docs/spin_prod_920986912.pdf


PARTS LIST FOR 540 PC. MECHANICS TOOL SET #49540
http://i.sears.com/s/d/pdf/mp-tc/spinpdf/spin_prod_1116420512

Are you really gaining anything or do the contents just add to the redundancy of your existing inventory?
 

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Since I'm having such a luverly day...:sad:

I thought I'd ruin yours, too...:evil:

Behold the "Old Craftsman 521 pc Tool Set"!!!:drool:

All U.S.A. manufactured!!!:rocker::D

(It had 3/4" drive set included!!!)

About 18 months ago...

These were on "Close-out Sale" for...

$ 399.99!!!

I found one in Florida, but they wouldn't ship it from the store...

So my day was ruined, too...:(
 

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The picture shows wrenches. You have to read the writing below the picture carefully. My guess is, what is written is what that person heard and understood. Very likely sockets and wrenches share some things in common, but the broaches and heat treating are different. Which would make sense, right?

Can we move on now? I answered the question. I based my statements above on above linked post which I believe to be accurate. If you'd like to quibble, the linked post awaits your pithy comments.

Everything you read on the internet is true.

I cannot for the life of me figure out why anyone even cares whether SO and Williams are the same or not.
 

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No way in heck I’d buy $1000 worth of craftsman tools. No way. I have 2 big problems with that set:

1) They just aren’t great tools. Cars are getting harder to work on and craftsman just doesn’t cut the mustard anymore. You need better sockets, better ratchets, better wrenches and screwdrivers to avoid screwing things up. Great mechanics can sense when something is about to go wrong and avoid problems. The rest of us need all teh help we can get.

2) There are a bunch of tools you don’t need. I’d skip the nut drivers, ignition wrenches, obstruction wrenches, 12pt sockets, 1/2" chrome, etc. This set was put together for 69 mustangs, not modern cars.

Also, I am not particularly a fan of Craftsman but I do have to disagree with both of the above statements.

1) Nobody "needs" expensive tools to work on cars today to avoid screwing things up.

2) Some people use nut drivers, ignition wrenches, 1/2"-drive chrome sockets, etc. all the time. It's a matter of personal preference.

And also: Any decent socket with off-corner engagement (i.e., just about every socket made today) grabs fasteners in exactly the same spots, whether 12-point or 6-point; 12-point sockets and wrenches are not inferior to 6-point sockets and wrenches.
 

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Im not going to point you to one brand or another as thats all personal preference.

I will agree with most here - Craftsman is NOT what they were and if you want to piece together a set from other manufacturers you WILL end up with better tools for the same money. It wont be as easy as clicking BUY.....but its also fun....do some reading and bargain shopping, thats the thrill of the hunt.

Will you get the same amount of tools? No.....but then Id wager a guess that atleast 1/3 of that set wouldnt get used at all if very little anyways.

......and I have ALOT of Crafstman tools so Im not a basher by no means.

My father in law bought me tools (this was 15+ years ago) and he bought Crafstman. I still have most of them but they are relegated to second use or backup status.

I still use the sockets daily.....because I have a full set of metric, SAE, standard, deep in each of 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 drive. That would be a SIGNIFICANT investment to repurchase in another brand.....and honestly Ive broken maybe 1 socket in all this time. Ive lost probably 10+......so I just go get a single replacement and stick to Craftsman.

I also use the **** out of wrenches....daily.
 

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I wouldn't look to one set or brand to be the go to for putting together a set.

I would start with metric, a solid wrench set, 1/4" and 3/8" chrome socket and ratchet sets, a few pairs of pliers, and a trip to harbor freight for some hammers and prybars...

Then as you need stuff, buy it. I would be lost with out a compressor, impact wrench and impact socket set. I use my 3/8 impact and matco swivel impact sockets almost no matter what I do. I changed a battery the other day and thats what I used.

The rest of the stuff comes over the years, I started with the basic metric sk wrench set, now I have stubby, long, regular pattern, offset, and flare in both metric and sae, I have both stubby and long ratcheting wrenches in both metric and sae, plus snap on s shaped, matco U shaped, etc.

When starting a set, start with the basics, buy what you need and keep building by spending a set amount every week. My son is 16 and already doing this, plus it makes it super easy to buy him b-day and xmas gifts...
 
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I want to thank everyone for their responses, there is definitely some knowledge and experience here, I will do some more researching and poking around.
 

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No way in heck I’d buy $1000 worth of craftsman tools. No way. I have 2 big problems with that set:

1) They just aren’t great tools. Cars are getting harder to work on and craftsman just doesn’t cut the mustard anymore. You need better sockets, better ratchets, better wrenches and screwdrivers to avoid screwing things up. Great mechanics can sense when something is about to go wrong and avoid problems. The rest of us need all teh help we can get.

2) There are a bunch of tools you don’t need. I’d skip the nut drivers, ignition wrenches, obstruction wrenches, 12pt sockets, 1/2" chrome, etc. This set was put together for 69 mustangs, not modern cars.

Here’s my recommendation:

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Sockets and Ratchets: Less is more<O:p</O:p
Every auto mechanic needs a good 3/8” socket set. Most modern cars are metric, so start there. The best sockets in the world are (arguably) Snap-On flank drive. They are strong, hard, and fit tight. A good socket will flex less, bite harder, and remove stuck fasteners easier and with less dmage to the fastener. If you work on newer cars, race cars, or airplanes, maybe you don’t need these. For everything else, you will benefit from having great sockets. Buy second hand on GJ or ebay in like new condition. Expect to pay $60-80 if you are patient and smart. Alternatives include Koken, Proto, Mac. Williams USA are not equivalent to Snap On. I advise caution in going cheap here.

-Go to the ratchet extremes- very long and very short
The basic set of ratchets comprises the least useful ratchets made. Jump right to the ratchets most of us use all the time. My pick is the Snap On FHLF80. Snap On’s dual 80 ratchet system is simply the best on the market. It has the effect of an 80 tooth ratchet (ratchet in tight spots, low back drag) with the strength of 36 tooth model. At 14” long, you will no longer need a breaker bar; these ratchets are that strong. These can be had for very little money when scratched up (approx. $50). Buy the cheapest, dirtiest model you can find and budget in a replacement handle ($20), and a repair kit ($10 or possibly free). There are other models from Matco or Mac, and even Craftsman and HF. Let the budget decide, but I wouldn’t recommend skimping here. This is another tool you will never regret buying from Snap On. The difference between the best ratchet in the world and a decent Craftsman could be $20-30.

Second ratchet to buy is a 3/8” stubby. Once the bolt is cracked free, you switch to your stubby for speed. Stubbies can operate in areas other ratchets can’t. They also are less mass to rotate so you save time and energy ratcheting as well. You don’t need anything special here. Get the cheapest stubby you can find. I had a flex head craftsman I loved. The flex handle conformed to my palm. You can find previous models of Snap Ons cheap. Budget $30.<O:p</O:p

-The big stuff
For suspension work, get yourself a set of cheap impact sockets. Look for brands like Sunnex or Grey Pneumatic, but don’t turn your nose up at HF. Impacts are designed to be softer than chrome so they don’t explode when used with a gun. As such, they are prone to wearing out. Only buy new and figure you will replace or upgrade as you go. Budget $50.

Couple these with a long ratchet like the Snap On SHLF80. This thing is a DIYer’s best friend. At 26 inches long, with a fine toothed ratchet, and over 700ftlbs of capability, this is a ratchet that functions like a breaker that you can trust isn’t going to let go. Fine tooth ratcheting makes a bigger difference on long ratchets. When you are pulling hard, you can put that ratchet in your strength sweet spot. These are super expensive, but cheaper than an impact gun. If you have an impact gun in your plan, skip this or buy a cheaper model elsewhere. I bought mine here on GJ for $120. I use it all the time and love it. Long ratchets make the job easier.<O:p</O:p

Extensions: Get a few "silver bullets"
Only a couple things you need to know about extensions; 1) Not every makers’ extensions fit every other makers’ sockets. Ideally these two components should fit together with no rattle. If you can try before you buy, do that. Otherwise, I have found cheap extensions to be acceptable in the shorter lengths.

Its really nice to have a few “silver bullet” extensions; I highly recommend set of wobbles but wouldn’t pay loads for them ($40) as they are not high strength tools. Pick up a few long extensions (11” and over). These can be back and knuckle savers, but their long lengths are like springs. sp choose a truck tool brand for these. Budget $100 for extensions.

Wrenches: Skip Old-School Tools<O:p</O:p
At this point in automotive history, I would not rush out to purchase combination wrenches. These are old school, typically too short and with open ends that don’t cut it on hard to reach or really stuck fasteners. Instead, start your wrench set with the tools most mechanics reach for first; a set of high performance Snap On wrenches. These are long, strong, with tight fitting, very thin box ends. They can access fasteners other wrenches can't and offer greater leverage to crack stuff free. Choose the 15 degree set first. You can find them for about $100 on ebay in good condition or better.

Once a screw is cracked free, a ratcheting box wrench will make quick work of it in spots a socket wrench can’t easily access. I would get a set of these, possibly flex head models, but only if cheap. If you don’t use these to crack loose or snug up bolts, you can get away with cheaper brands. Budget $150 for wrenches.<O:p</O:p
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Screwdrivers: We all have 'em, but not always the one we need.
The trick with screwdrivers is having the right length and the right, good condition, high quality tip. Most of us will gravitate toward screwdrivers we have or strike our fancy. There’s nothing wrong with that. But if you want to be smart about it, choose a ratcheting screwdriver system that accepts different length shanks. Couple with high quality bits and replace them as needed when worn. The specialty Snap On ACR bits, and Wiha/Wera diamond tipped bits really work on phillips head screws.

My favorite is the Snap On soft grip stubby, especially when paired with the optional 9” shank. Budget $75 for a second hand Snap On, a selection of bits and an extra shank. <O:p</O:pAdd another $25 for a couple extra screwdrivers you will need like a large #3 phillips for brake discs, and a big flat head you will inevitably use as a pry bar.
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Pliers: Don't overdo it<O:p</O:p
I love tools so I have nice pliers, but I don’t really need the world's best pliers. I find my HF long needle nose the most useful just for picking up parts I dropped. The basic set from Snap On is very nice and very useful. Special deals and sales can bring these under $100. But you can do way better. A set of Knipex cobras or a comparable set of channel locks are helpful for hose clamps and other misc jobs. My favorite pliers are duck bills. Their slim jaws and super twisting ability let me grab twist, fold wires, sheet metal, you name it. I would start with cobras, duck bill or needle nose and some sort of cutter and go from there.
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Specialty tools: make life easier
At this point my math puts us under $800 and we’ve made virtually no compromises in tool quality, just narrowed the selection to those tools which are most important and spent more money for better tools where you can reap bigger benefits. If you had $1000 budgeted for tools, you now have $200 to spend on specialty items on an as needed basis.

Specialty tools really make the job easier. Here are a couple items you may need: Etorx socket set, torx and allen bit sockets (Snap On highly recommended), “flare nut” (line) wrenches (Snap On), 1/4" sockets, deep or mid depth versions of all sockets above.

Here are some "why didn't I buy this before" tools: brake bleeder wrenches, mityvac brake bleeder, drum brake tools, hose clamp pliers, pry bars, panel poppers, swivel sockets, test light, led head lamp, magnetic parts dishes.<O:p

Conclusion:</O:p
In my opinion, the tools above would be capable of performing 90% of the tasks a DIYer would most likely attempt.

Above all, I would say having an impact gun greatly increased my ability to tackle a tough jobs. I think I would call it an essential tool for automotive repair. I think I would go so far to say that if you thought you could get an impact on every fastener, you could get away with cheap sockets and ratchets. Unfortunately, that's never the case. In fact, I typically find the one screw I can't reach with the gun is the one that's completely frozen solid. That's the reason for the good sockets, ratchets and wrenches.


this is basically the kind of person i was warning you about.. i stopped reading after 4 sentences cause i already know where he is going with this..

its a wonder so many people have made it through their lives owning all those craftsman tools that dont work...
 

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Adam.C has got right. :thumbup:

His recommendations is one of heirloom quality tools that will last a lifetime and never disappoint. :bowdown:

ANYTHING decent will last if you use the tools they way they are meant to. part of any skill is knowing what you can, and what you shouldnt be doing with them. its not like ratchets break from people applying some force to them.. they get broken when people slide 4 foot pipes over them.. there is NO reason any craftsman tools, made in china or not, will not be an "airloom" set.. some of you guys talk about them like they are something you'd pick up at a dollar store, meanwhile the only way you know its made in china is cause its stamped on the damn thing. i love when people think 20yr old channellocks are only still around BECAUSE they are channellocks.. i have 20+ year old Alltrade hand tools from my first tools set i was given at 14. funny though, those still have the handles on them, and my channellocks dont.
 
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ANYTHING decent will last if you use the tools they way they are meant to. part of any skill is knowing what you can, and what you shouldnt be doing with them. its not like ratchets break from people applying some force to them.. they get broken when people slide 4 foot pipes over them.. there is NO reason any craftsman tools, made in china or not, will not be an "airloom" set.. some of you guys talk about them like they are something you'd pick up at a dollar store, meanwhile the only way you know its made in china is cause its stamped on the damn thing. i love when people think 20yr old channellocks are only still around BECAUSE they are channellocks.. i have 20+ year old Alltrade hand tools from my first tools set i was given at 14. funny though, those still have the handles on them, and my channellocks dont.

I'd feel ashamed handing my son Chinese Craftsman. A high quality USA/Canada/Europe/Japan tool will last generations, Chinese junk is inferior metal, inferior craftsman ship, inferior quality. There are plenty of alternatives to Chinese Craftsman out there for not double the price as you imply.

If the OP wants to wrench in his garage he should check out Masterforce made by Allen.
 

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I want to thank everyone for their responses, there is definitely some knowledge and experience here, I will do some more researching and poking around.

Unless you already have a good handle on it -

Take some time and round up "all your stuff" pull an inventory so you know what you have and what you don't.

It will come together in time.

Good Luck
 

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Couple these with a long ratchet like the Snap On SHLF80. This thing is a DIYer’s best friend. At 26 inches long, with a fine toothed ratchet, and over 700ftlbs of capability, this is a ratchet that functions like a breaker that you can trust isn’t going to let go. Fine tooth ratcheting makes a bigger difference on long ratchets. When you are pulling hard, you can put that ratchet in your strength sweet spot. These are super expensive, but cheaper than an impact gun. If you have an impact gun in your plan, skip this or buy a cheaper model elsewhere. I bought mine here on GJ for $120. I use it all the time and love it. Long ratchets make the job [/QUOTE]

I was using mine to break loose rear caliper bracket bolts on a gmc c6500, when it skipped a tooth, I thought I had dislocated my elbow. I am now much more careful when using it to break stubborn fasteners .
On the flip side though I have used it a few times with extreme
Me torque an have never broken it
 
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