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Craftsman Crown Logo "Carpenter's Knife"

Cooter Brown

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A short time ago @bmwrd0 posted a haul in the Garage Sale thread. One of the items he found was a pocket knife I thought I recognized. I described it to Aaron and it turns out I was right--a Schrade Walden split back whittler pattern. I responded with an ID and he offered to sell it to me for a great price. I told him I thought the price was low--Aaron very kindly sold it to me for that anyway. This is what we call a gentleman!

It was in much better condition that I thought it'd be from the original pictures. After a light cleanup it appears to be essentially unused, never even put on a stone. I looked at it under a magnifying lamp and sure enough, the etch was still visible! There's some discoloration and staining on the carbon steel blades and springs, but not the sort of patina I'd associate with carry and use. The bolsters and bone are perfect, no dings or nicks. The springs inside the wells are still shiny and free of pepper spots--this is often the first thing that happens on a carry knife. All blades are still shiny and reflective. I'm a user much more than a collector but this one will probably get treated pretty gently and kept as a time capsule of the sort of quality produced at one time in the US.

The split back whittler pattern, sometimes called "Carpenter's Knife" is a specific pattern, referring to the configuration of the blades and springs. There are three blades and two springs. There's a tapered divider between the springs. Each small blade has its own independent spring. The springs taper together on the other end of the knife, and the main blade uses both springs. It's a difficult pattern to get right and you seldom see it offered by major manufacturers today.

I posted pics on a knife collector's forum and got some great info, including from a man who worked for Schrade for decades. It's often hard to pin down date of mfg more specifically than a range of a decade or two--this knife was easy. Given the start of the use of the crown logo and the end of Schrade's use of bone handles, this knife was made between 1958 and 1961. One of the fellows included a page from a 1961 Sears catalog showing the knife. After '61 Schrade used Delrin handles on the knife.

The main blade with Crown logo. You can see how shiny the blade is:

Schrade Whittler 3.JPG

The secondary blades. They have a little staining, and even though you can't tell in this photo they still have the factory polish too, no real patina. The style of jigged bone is called "peach seed":

Schrade Whittler 5.JPG

The springs, showing the tapered divider:

Schrade Whittler 6.JPG

Note how well the blades nest and how well centered the main is:

Schrade Whittler 10.JPG

The inside of the knife is remarkably free of corrosion and spotting. You also get a good view of how the blades and springs are set up:

Schrade Whittler 8.JPG

Scrade Whittler 1.JPG

Here's the knife in the 1961 Sears Spring/Summer catalog. It's number 26:

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If you made it this far, thanks for indulging, and I hope some found this of interest.

And thanks again to Aaron!
 
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As Farmer J said, nice write up and interesting read.now I need to look closer to the knives I pick up beyond Made in USA for more details.

And thanks to @bmwrd0 for being a gentleman and passing it on.
 

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Also known as split back whittler pattern, if you look close you'll fine the shield is pined on through bone scale and into inside brass liner.
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Also known as split back whittler pattern or sleeve board patten, if you look close you'll fine the shield is pined on through bone scale and into inside brass liner.
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The pics aren't very good, so the perspective might be a little distorted. It's a serpentine or dogleg, not a sleeveboard.

And yes, the shield is pinned.

The knife only cost the equivalent of $34.45 in 1961--amazing quality for that money.

I should have been more clear in the original post. Split back whittlers come in sizes from tiny, 3" or even less, to large like this one at 3 7/8". Some companies called the large ones Carpenter's Knives. Case called their large split back a Carpenter's Knife. The common characteristic of all split back whittlers is the tapered divider between the springs and how the main blade uses both springs.
 
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The pics aren't very good, so the perspective might be a little distorted. It's a serpentine or dogleg, not a sleeveboard.

And yes, the shield is pinned.

The knife only cost the equivalent of $34.45 in 1961--amazing quality for that money.

I should have been more clear in the original post. Split back whittlers come in sizes from tiny, 3" or even less, to large like this one at 3 7/8". Some companies called the large ones Carpenter's Knives. Case called their large split back a Carpenter's Knife. The common characteristic of all split back whittlers is the tapered divider between the springs and how the main blade uses both springs.
I stand corrected, I meant serpentine not sleeve board, anyway you cut it it's a real nice knife..
 
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Looking at the pics I can see it might look like a sleeve board. At that close even the tiniest tilt of the camera lens can distort the shape. You obviously know pocket knives. Sleeve board is an obscure term!

And you're right--it's a honey. I'd like to find one I didn't feel guilty about putting in my pocket!
 

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Looking at the pics I can see it might look like a sleeve board. At that close even the tiniest tilt of the camera lens can distort the shape. You obviously know pocket knives. Sleeve board is an obscure term!

And you're right--it's a honey. I'd like to find one I didn't feel guilty about putting in my pocket!
I've carried an old pocket knife all my life, better steel. This is a New York Knife Co stockman pattern I picked some years ago. I like this pattern, very useful tool, and yes i've been around pocket knives for years. Used to belong to the NKCA and went to Louisville KY a lot to the spring shows. That was in the late 1980s early 1990s, good times bumping heads with the likes of Tony Foster, Jim Sargent, MD Wells Frank Buster and more.
 

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I've had a few Schrade knives along the way, Old Timers. They made a lot of that type. I used one in electrical work for a long time. Sheepsfoot blade is excellent for skinning wire, long blade good for puncturing and general cutting. Smaller blade good for scoring ceiling tiles or drywall.

You did well getting this.
 
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