Craftsman Drill Press

[jbltwin1]

A little off subject but I have a Craftsman 103.23640 that we salvaged from a fire in my house probably 40 years ago. The pulleys melted and the motor's gone but there are some good pieces here for somebody that's in need of them. If you want them, you can HAVE them. I will never get around to doing anything with them as I have other DP's that I use. I'll post the pics here and they are free but you have to pick them up. Too heavy to ship. Reply to jbltwin1 at yahoo dot com and we'll talk.

PS-I'm in Illinois, right across from St Louis. Godfrey, IL to be exact

 

[FrankLee]

A little off subject but I have a Craftsman 103.23640 that we salvaged from a fire in my house probably 40 years ago. The pulleys melted and the motor's gone but there are some good pieces here for somebody that's in need of them. If you want them, you can HAVE them. I will never get around to doing anything with them as I have other DP's that I use. I'll post the pics here and they are free but you have to pick them up. Too heavy to ship. Reply to jbltwin1 at yahoo dot com and we'll talk.

It's right ON topic and a generous offer. Hopefully someone will take you up on that offer and the remaining parts can get another machine back to work. Thanks for posting.

 

[DaveT]

A little off subject but I have a Craftsman 103.23640 that we salvaged from a fire in my house probably 40 years ago. The pulleys melted and the motor's gone but there are some good pieces here for somebody that's in need of them. If you want them, you can HAVE them. I will never get around to doing anything with them as I have other DP's that I use. I'll post the pics here and they are free but you have to pick them up. Too heavy to ship. Reply to jbltwin1 at yahoo dot com and we'll talk.

PS-I'm in Illinois, right across from St Louis. Godfrey, IL to be exact

jbltwin1, How ironic, I live in Belleville IL and just about 7 hours ago I was in Godfrey with my wife taking a hike at the Glazebrook Park as part of a series of Christmas hikes in the area sponsored by Heartlands Conservancy. What a small work it is.

I have a 101.24820 that I am refurbishing bit I don’t think there is anything you have there that I need or that would fit. I hope you find someone in need.

 

[lafester]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

I picked up my first 2nd gen Emerson today. I am mainly interested in testing out the variable speed motor.

It has a broken home made table lift which is interesting. Overall I don't think it was used much.

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[FrankLee]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

I picked up my first 2nd gen Emerson today. I am mainly interested in testing out the variable speed motor.

It has a broken home made table lift which is interesting. Overall I don't think it was used much.

Very nice find! That is an interesting machine.

I had one machine with that motor, but it was doa and I never could get it running.

Do you have the belt cover? Those 2nd, 3rd and 4th-gen machines are often missing the belt covers. When they are present, the 2nd-gen sheet metal covers are usually bent somewhat. I had to tweak the cover on dp#93. The 3rd and 4th-gen plastic covers are often cracked and have holes worn through the sides from the motor pulley.

That cam-lock hold-down clamp is a nice bonus. It looks a little different than what I've seen in the past.

What are your plans for that machine?

 

[mc4life27]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

That is an interesting one. I have the same drill press but I have the standard motor with a homemade slow speed pulley and belt set up. That puts the motor off to the side a little. I do have the cover for mine and currently it’s straight and in great shape just has some surface rust on it and never go around to cleaning it up plus never could decide if I wanted to modify it to for my belt system. Mine even have the little front plastic insert that says what speed each pulley is


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[FrankLee]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

That is an interesting one. I have the same drill press but I have the standard motor with a homemade slow speed pulley and belt set up. That puts the motor off to the side a little. I do have the cover for mine and currently it’s straight and in great shape just has some surface rust on it and never go around to cleaning it up plus never could decide if I wanted to modify it to for my belt system. Mine even have the little front plastic insert that says what speed each pulley is

Pictures please!

 

[lafester]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

No belt cover unfortunately which means this one will be parted.
I assume all the parts will fit a first gen Emerson 150 except the massive spindle assembly.

The hold down is also home made and at first look doesn't appear to be very useful. I'll check it out in a few.

Very nice find! That is an interesting machine.

I had one machine with that motor, but it was doa and I never could get it running.

Do you have the belt cover? Those 2nd, 3rd and 4th-gen machines are often missing the belt covers. When they are present, the 2nd-gen sheet metal covers are usually bent somewhat. I had to tweak the cover on dp#93. The 3rd and 4th-gen plastic covers are often cracked and have holes worn through the sides from the motor pulley.

That cam-lock hold-down clamp is a nice bonus. It looks a little different than what I've seen in the past.

What are your plans for that machine?

 

[FrankLee]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

No belt cover unfortunately which means this one will be parted.
I assume all the parts will fit a first gen Emerson 150 except the massive spindle assembly.

The hold down is also home made and at first look doesn't appear to be very useful. I'll check it out in a few.

Yes.

• The hub assembly will fit late 150's to 4th-gen Emersons.
• The pulley assembly should be downward compatible to 100's, but I have had fitment issues with the internal splines.
• The feed stop assembly can fit 80's (maybe), 100's and 150's if the rod is shortened. I've done that three times already. It will fit 3rd and 4th-gen Emersons.
• The quill/spindle assembly is upward compatible to 3rd/4th-gen machines with a slight modification to the plastic cover.

 

[lafester]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Yes.

• The hub assembly will fit late 150's to 4th-gen Emersons.
• The pulley assembly should be downward compatible to 100's, but I have had fitment issues with the internal splines.
• The feed stop assembly can fit 80's (maybe), 100's and 150's if the rod is shortened. I've done that three times already. It will fit 3rd and 4th-gen Emersons.
• The quill/spindle assembly is upward compatible to 3rd/4th-gen machines with a slight modification to the plastic cover.
• I've sold about 15 bases/columns/tables as power tool stands.

Here is the hold down. Not home made but maybe something is missing?

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[FrankLee]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Here is the hold down. Not home made but maybe something is missing?

I'm not sure, but it looks very similar to the Craftsman catalog version.

Maybe whole piece is lowered on the column with the brass foot placed on the work piece, and the arm is set against the cam. The cam is turned to tighten the foot on the work piece?

 

[mc4life27]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Pictures please!

Here are some pictures hopefully you can
See what I have going on. I made it a few years back when I was not working and had no money. I made it completely from scrap parts and free stuff off of Craigslist. It works great and due the the 8 inch pulley I can get it to spin super low. Also I still use the factory belt, well whatever belt that was on the drill press when I got it. Witch was also free off of Craigslist. It took a lot of work and time to get it to where it is now. Also on the right side
Where the little piece of emt and flat
Plate is, that’s part of my new idea of making a mount for the pulley so I can move the motor back where is was. Just have not go around to doing it yet.

Also FYI I built this before I had a welder, no band saws, I think the only power tools I had at that time was a drill and
Maybe a sander. Doesn’t look the best but at the time I was flat broke so
Built it for 100% free and the thing works great.













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[mc4life27]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Also when we
Went to pick up the drill press to begin with my
Gf was pissed at me and was like what the hell kind of trash are you bring home now. Due the it being fully rusted. But after cleaning it up and bring it back to like new every time she sees me
Using it she also comments on how it’s her favorite tool that I have just because of the before and after and how much I use the thing.


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[FrankLee]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Here are some pictures hopefully you can
See what I have going on. I made it a few years back when I was not working and had no money. I made it completely from scrap parts and free stuff off of Craigslist. It works great and due the the 8 inch pulley I can get it to spin super low. Also I still use the factory belt, well whatever belt that was on the drill press when I got it. Witch was also free off of Craigslist. It took a lot of work and time to get it to where it is now. Also on the right side
Where the little piece of emt and flat
Plate is, that’s part of my new idea of making a mount for the pulley so I can move the motor back where is was. Just have not go around to doing it yet.

Also FYI I built this before I had a welder, no band saws, I think the only power tools I had at that time was a drill and
Maybe a sander. Doesn’t look the best but at the time I was flat broke so
Built it for 100% free and the thing works great.

Also when we
Went to pick up the drill press to begin with my
Gf was pissed at me and was like what the hell kind of trash are you bring home now. Due the it being fully rusted. But after cleaning it up and bring it back to like new every time she sees me
Using it she also comments on how it’s her favorite tool that I have just because of the before and after and how much I use the thing.

Excellent engineering on a shoestring budget!

 

[pikapp]

I'm still amassing the parts and tools required for the day I can go forth and hobby on my 100. Even changed my mind about the color. I've never been a fan of gold but, I'm going to stick with the bronze. They only made it three years, there is something to be said for limited production, even as much as I really like the industrial colors like grey, blue and green better.
BTW, just bought a 5gal pail of Grez-Off from Walmart for $80.76 delivered, or .63 cents and ounce.
Anyone find it cheaper anywhere?

 

[mc4life27]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Excellent engineering on a shoestring budget!

Lol on a shoestring budget, I wish I had a shoestring budget. The only budget I had was my time.


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[FrankLee]

Dp#95

Pickins' have been very slim lately, but I picked up dp#95 this afternoon. It's another 12¼" Dunlap model 103.23622 from the power Bronze Age.

It's dirty and has the common handi-box switch, but it's another tight machine. The motor is a nice period-correct model 113.19665, 1/3 hp, 1725 rpm, with a date code of D 61.

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[pikapp]

Well, it seems even a blind squirrel can find a nut once in a while! DP #2 is a 103.23130 bench model that popped up on FBMP and close by too, so I didn't hesitate this time. I didn't steal it but, the motor ran and it was not all rusty and all there.
Its in pretty good condition, nothing broken or missing as far as I can see so far, except for that extended quill. No damage to the table. I released the thumb screw and I could hear the return spring release. That's a good sign, right? At least it was still hooked up. Adding tension would not retract it though, quills too gummed up I think. One other thing, the hub and pinion could be pulled right out, I didn't remove it but, hummmm. Came apart pretty easy.

 

[pikapp]

Inside looked good. Not too much saw dust, but not too much rust either. Must have been in a pretty good environment. Normal rust on the column for seventy years.
By becoming a student of Mr. Lee's expert observations, I see the 6/32 panel screws would make it a 1951 or older as would the cast lock cylinders. The rib on the motor mount was added in 1951 too so I guess it must be a 50 or 51? Anyone see anything else?
Anyone else seen a motor made by Hoover? I thought that was amusing. Right speed and 1/3hp. I haven't tried to date the motor yet. Wired direct so I guess it had it's own wall switch or just got plugged in when needed. Kinda dangerous.

 

[michaelhope]

Good evening! today i bought a 1950s? Craftsman floor model drill press with the 2 handle design, im not sure if the chuck travel is adjustable, but when pulling the handle, the chuck only moves down 1" is that all it moves or am i missing something?
Many thanks in advance

 

[FrankLee]

Well, it seems even a blind squirrel can find a nut once in a while! DP #2 is a 103.23130 bench model that popped up on FBMP and close by too, so I didn't hesitate this time. I didn't steal it but, the motor ran and it was not all rusty and all there.
Its in pretty good condition, nothing broken or missing as far as I can see so far, except for that extended quill. No damage to the table. I released the thumb screw and I could hear the return spring release. That's a good sign, right? At least it was still hooked up. Adding tension would not retract it though, quills too gummed up I think. One other thing, the hub and pinion could be pulled right out, I didn't remove it but, hummmm. Came apart pretty easy.

Nice find!

Yes, that's a good sign. Perhaps the extended quill is due to the extra weight of the mortise attachment.

Regarding the pinion pulling out... it could be due to the retaining screw missing, loose or broken. It shouldn't be a big deal to replace.

Inside looked good. Not too much saw dust, but not too much rust either. Must have been in a pretty good environment. Normal rust on the column for seventy years.
By becoming a student of Mr. Lee's expert observations, I see the 6/32 panel screws would make it a 1951 or older as would the cast lock cylinders. The rib on the motor mount was added in 1951 too so I guess it must be a 50 or 51? Anyone see anything else?
Anyone else seen a motor made by Hoover? I thought that was amusing. Right speed and 1/3hp. I haven't tried to date the motor yet. Wired direct so I guess it had it's own wall switch or just got plugged in when needed. Kinda dangerous.

I think you're assessment is correct on the date.

Is the motor convertible to 115V? Or are you set-up for 230V?

 

[FrankLee]

Good evening! today i bought a 1950s? Craftsman floor model drill press with the 2 handle design, im not sure if the chuck travel is adjustable, but when pulling the handle, the chuck only moves down 1" is that all it moves or am i missing something?
Many thanks in advance

Welcome Michael!

Congrats on your machine! Unless it is a custom floor-standing modification on a 12-1/4" model, I'm assuming you have a 13-1/2" Craftsman 80 drill press.

There should be 3"+ of quill feed travel. There are several possible issues that could prevent full feed:

• quill lock not releasing the quill
  Remove and clean the lock parts and lock bores.
• debris in the quill gear rack teeth or pinion gear teeth.
  Inspect from the top with a flashlight
• damaged teeth on the pinion gear
  Remove the pinion/spring/feed handle assembly and inspect.

Please post some photos when possible.

 

[Outlawmws]

Nice find!

Is the motor convertible to 115V? Or are you set-up for 230V?

I agree Nice find!

Based on the motor tag I'd say it's not convertible to 120. I'm actually surprised that a motor from Hoover, (predominantly a vacuum Mfg - Portable tools...) had a motor tot 230V. Seems odd.. Maybe hey also made specialty motors for industry?

My Old DP I deliberately setup for 220. When I switched to a better DP and a Treadmill motor I went back to house current.

 

[oldsfan442]

My Old DP I deliberately setup for 220. When I switched to a better DP and a Treadmill motor I went back to house current.

Why would you deliberately set it up for 220?

Bryan

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[Outlawmws]

If you have 220 available its more efficient in the motor, and you get less current drop in the lines for a given wire size. When I moved in here, I wired my garage for both 120 and 220 outlets, (not to mention the welder plugs)

My compressor has always been 220.

 

[pikapp]

Nice find!

Yes, that's a good sign. Perhaps the extended quill is due to the extra weight of the mortise attachment.

Regarding the pinion pulling out... it could be due to the retaining screw missing, loose or broken. It shouldn't be a big deal to replace.


I think you're assessment is correct on the date.

Is the motor convertible to 115V? Or are you set-up for 230V?

Frank,
Yes, I saw that plug and not having dealt with any 240V outlets except my welder I didn't recognize it. Shoulda seen the plate but, I was so pleased with myself, my eyes were still spinning like pinwheels.
I was hoping it was an 80 so I could keep it on the small garage bench but the bigger brother will have to do. Man, these must weight a good what, 150lbs? Gonna have to break out the welder and cut some tubing to reinforce the small bench out there. Maybe flip it when I find an 80 someday.
Nice find on the Dunlop. That is a nice machine. Just what Im looking for with the smaller case.

 

[FrankLee]

Frank,
Yes, I saw that plug and not having dealt with any 240V outlets except my welder I didn't recognize it. Shoulda seen the plate but, I was so pleased with myself, my eyes were still spinning like pinwheels.
I was hoping it was an 80 so I could keep it on the small garage bench but the bigger brother will have to do. Man, these must weight a good what, 150lbs? Gonna have to break out the welder and cut some tubing to reinforce the small bench out there. Maybe flip it when I find an 80 someday.
Nice find on the Dunlop. That is a nice machine. Just what Im looking for with the smaller case.

Per the 1951 catalog, the shipping weight of the benchtop 100 is 170 pounds.

What did you discover regarding the pinion/spring/hub assembly just sliding out?

 

[Nexoidian]

Picked up this Dunlap drill press the other day for $25. Couldn’t pass it up. They said it needed a motor. I took the motor apart and cleaned all the saw dust out and generally cleaned it. Put it back together and tested it. I was surprised it fired right up. I’m going to keep the motor for something else and find a 1/2hp for the DP.

Apparently I should’ve read thru this thread first. I tried to get my original jacobs 33 chuck apart and didn’t have it closed all the way. I ended up ripping several teeth off. So now I need a rebuild kit or a new chuck. If any one has one to get rid of let me know

 

[michaelhope]

Thank you!

Here are some pictures, I have no idea of the date of manufacture as there is no plate on the base.

I also am looking around trying to figure out how to take it apart.

The 2 images of inside show the chuck fully up then fully down, when it stops it feels solid

Welcome Michael!

Congrats on your machine! Unless it is a custom floor-standing modification on a 12-1/4" model, I'm assuming you have a 13-1/2" Craftsman 80 drill press.

There should be 3"+ of quill feed travel. There are several possible issues that could prevent full feed:

• quill lock not releasing the quill
  Remove and clean the lock parts and lock bores.
• debris in the quill gear rack teeth or pinion gear teeth.
  Inspect from the top with a flashlight
• damaged teeth on the pinion gear
  Remove the pinion/spring/feed handle assembly and inspect.

Please post some photos when possible.

 

[FrankLee]

Thank you!

Here are some pictures, I have no idea of the date of manufacture as there is no plate on the base.

I also am looking around trying to figure out how to take it apart.

The 2 images of inside show the chuck fully up then fully down, when it stops it feels solid

Thanks for the pictures. It's difficult to see, but the pinion teeth look suspect in the first picture. But there is a ton of dirt and stuff inside.

I suggest starting at the first post in this thread. Read each topic in the GENERAL section and then topics below related to your machine and then the topics in the SUB-ASSEMBLIES section that you need help with. And you can always ask questions.

The model number should be 103.23640 or 103.23641 (they're virtually the same machine).

I would need more side pictures to estimate age.

 

[FrankLee]

Picked up this Dunlap drill press the other day for $25. Couldn’t pass it up. They said it needed a motor. I took the motor apart and cleaned all the saw dust out and generally cleaned it. Put it back together and tested it. I was surprised it fired right up. I’m going to keep the motor for something else and find a 1/2hp for the DP.

Apparently I should’ve read thru this thread first. I tried to get my original jacobs 33 chuck apart and didn’t have it closed all the way. I ended up ripping several teeth off. So now I need a rebuild kit or a new chuck. If any one has one to get rid of let me know

That looks like a decent deal for $25.

The motor looks very much like the 1/4 hp GE motor that came on my dp#92. I cleaned it a bit and sold it for $5. I was happy to get it.

I think I answered your other questions in the PM, but if not reply.

 

[Outlawmws]

You can sometimes get good $$ from a "period correct" collector/restorer for those old 110V motors I sold one (branded) for $75.

 

[michaelhope]

Thank you so much for the help, i was able to pull it apart cleaned all the gunk off and now it moves fully.

Here is a side shot.

Thanks for the pictures. It's difficult to see, but the pinion teeth look suspect in the first picture. But there is a ton of dirt and stuff inside.

I suggest starting at the first post in this thread. Read each topic in the GENERAL section and then topics below related to your machine and then the topics in the SUB-ASSEMBLIES section that you need help with. And you can always ask questions.

The model number should be 103.23640 or 103.23641 (they're virtually the same machine).

I would need more side pictures to estimate age.

 

[FrankLee]

Thank you so much for the help, i was able to pull it apart cleaned all the gunk off and now it moves fully.

Here is a side shot.

Good news!

OK, so based on the existence of the head frame trim (even tho painted over) and the steel head frame lock and quill lock, I believe it's no earlier than 1954.

If you can determine the original color... if gray, 1954-1957; if gold, 1957-1958. Although I'm not 100% sure they made the 80's in gold. I'm assuming so because 100's and Dunlaps came in gold.

I believe the Craftsman 80 was discontinued when the 150's came out in 1958.

 

[michaelhope]

Good news!

OK, so based on the existence of the head frame trim (even tho painted over) and the steel head frame lock and quill lock, I believe it's no earlier than 1954.

If you can determine the original color... if gray, 1954-1957; if gold, 1957-1958. Although I'm not 100% sure they made the 80's in gold. I'm assuming so because 100's and Dunlaps came in gold.

I believe the Craftsman 80 was discontinued when the 150's came out in 1958.

Thank you for the information!
Judging from the base plate, I think it was originally gray, I would like to replace the head frame trim, and do a minor restoration.
Is there a good source for parts for these machines

 

[FrankLee]

Thank you for the information!
Judging from the base plate, I think it was originally gray, I would like to replace the head frame trim, and do a minor restoration.
Is there a good source for parts for these machines

I would remove the trim panel, strip the paint off and assess the condition. There is a chance it is in acceptable condition. Do not use stripper on any other badge than the engine turned panel.

There are several links to posts regarding badges in the first post. Also, check out the links to the Engine-Turned Adhesive-Backed Film posts.

Ebay and GJ or other forum wanted ads are places to get parts. Finding a donor machine also helps.

 

[Mr.N]

Re: 351.22638 Craftsman Sander

I picked up my next project this afternoon... a Craftsman 351.22638 sander with an 8" disk and a 2" x 42" belt.
My plan is to clean it up and replace the bearings. I will likely swap out my smaller/lighter-weight 351.215130 Craftsman sander.
Here is an older thread on these sanders:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=322329

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Going to start another thread or post the rebuild here?
I am in the same boat, bought one with bad bearings.

 

[FrankLee]

Re: 351.22638 Craftsman Sander

Going to start another thread or post the rebuild here?
I am in the same boat, bought one with bad bearings.

I changed plans and already flipt that sander. It was missing both belt platens and I would have had to rig something up to mount it on my stand. I cleaned it up and did petty good. It is a nice machine.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

This Mohawk is for sale locally for $200. To me that seems a bit high? I think it is probably worth $100?? These don’t show up very often around the Pacific Northwest and I do like the color! The stand is funky and needs to go! I can tell if the motor is correct?





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[FrankLee]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

This Mohawk is for sale locally for $200. To me that seems a bit high? I think it is probably worth $100?? These don’t show up very often around the Pacific Northwest and I do like the color! The stand is funky and needs to go! I can tell if the motor is correct?

Yeah, that's high, imo. There was one here in s.e. Michigan the other day for $100. I can't find it now, so it must have sold.