Craftsman Drill Press

[11b30b4]

Gatewaysysop, possibly but I am not sure. I do know that there was 4 different sizes of MSA available from Craftsman to fit a variety of drill presses.

Smokeshow69, Hoorn is correct and the 1/4" difference may be too big of a difference for a standard 100/150 MSA to fit. However, all is not lost, Jziggy here on the forum makes slow speed pulleys and sells them at a very reasonable price. I own three of his slow speed pulleys and love them. Here is a link to his sale thread.

Vintage Drill Press Slow-Speed Pulleys

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Additionally, this information and more is available in my comprehensive thread here:

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[Hoorn]

Gateway, good catch. I did not think the MSA would be small enough even without the collar to fit the ID of a 2 1/4" column.



And the 99-2364 corresponding drill press, the Craftsman 80.

 

[Smokeshow69]

I thought the MSA would fit the smaller column as well, if you omitted the sleeve that goes with it and installed by itself? I don't have a model 80 to confirm but I seem to recall reading that this was the case, possibly in the old scans of MSA instructions?

thanks for the literature! I will read through it today!

I suppose if I bought one of jziggys, I could have it turned down to the right diameter? I was hoping the factory one would work so I could find a separate unit with one and pull it off and resell the unit for little cost

 

[Hoorn]

Smoke, 11b and I sent our responses at the exact same time. But the manual for the MSA pulley says that if you discard the collar it will fit the ID of a 2" column; i.e. the 80.

 

[Smokeshow69]

thanks for the literature! I will read through it today!

I suppose if I bought one of jziggys, I could have it turned down to the right diameter? I was hoping the factory one would work so I could find a separate unit with one and pull it off and resell the unit for little cost

I really appreciate the info! Thanks

 

[Outlawmws]

Just to confirm - I have a small post 3rd pulley. so yes, they do exist.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Just to confirm - I have a small post 3rd pulley. so yes, they do exist.

I wasn’t aware a small diameter pulley existed until this morning. I thought it was all large diameter but now that sleeve makes more sense so you can market it for multiple models

 

[Hoorn]

So I saw this 100 on MP offered for $60.



I reflexively responded yes and the seller texted me back within 30 seconds. We worked out pick-up details and then seller marked it sold.



Once in my workshop I noted the usual receptacle modification was for an internal mounted light.





Although simple, it's effective. I would not have screwed through the head frame to secure it, preferring instead FrankLee's internal light set up that requires no mods to the drill press.

The MSA pulley looks to be in good condition. One immediate tell tale sign of wear is if the bottom sheave is turning on the cast iron body. You can see that's not the case here.



Once out of the column I noted the cast iron body was probably the best I've run across, with crisp numbers and almost no wear whatsoever.



The same could be said of the bottom sheave as well, with only a few light scuffs.



All things considered this was a very well maintained MSA pulley. The only real modification I can see was substituting the original flat head screws that secure the bearings with hex head and a lock nut.



To definitively show that this MSA pulley would fit in a 2" ID Model 80 column without the outer sleeve.



I was quite happy to find this Craftsman motor shaft cover. Of all the Craftsman drill presses I have had this is the very first one that came with a shaft cover. The motor it was on was stamped March 1957.

 

[DaveT]

So I saw this 100 on MP offered for $60.



I reflexively responded yes and the seller texted me back within 30 seconds. We worked out pick-up details and then seller marked it sold.



Once in my workshop I noted the usual receptacle modification was for an internal mounted light.





Although simple, it's effective. I would not have screwed through the head frame to secure it, preferring instead FrankLee's internal light set up that requires no mods to the drill press.

The MSA pulley looks to be in good condition. One immediate tell tale sign of wear is if the bottom sheave is turning on the cast iron body. You can see that's not the case here.



Once out of the column I noted the cast iron body was probably the best I've run across, with crisp numbers and almost no wear whatsoever.



The same could be said of the bottom sheave as well, with only a few light scuffs.



All things considered this was a very well maintained MSA pulley. The only real modification I can see was substituting the original flat head screws that secure the bearings with hex head and a lock nut.



To definitively show that this MSA pulley would fit in a 2" ID Model 80 column without the outer sleeve.



I was quite happy to find this Craftsman motor shaft cover. Of all the Craftsman drill presses I have had this is the very first one that came with a shaft cover. The motor it was on was stamped March 1957.

That was a great deal! I don’t think I have ever noticed one of those motor shaft covers.

 

[Smokeshow69]

So I saw this 100 on MP offered for $60.



I reflexively responded yes and the seller texted me back within 30 seconds. We worked out pick-up details and then seller marked it sold.



Once in my workshop I noted the usual receptacle modification was for an internal mounted light.





Although simple, it's effective. I would not have screwed through the head frame to secure it, preferring instead FrankLee's internal light set up that requires no mods to the drill press.

The MSA pulley looks to be in good condition. One immediate tell tale sign of wear is if the bottom sheave is turning on the cast iron body. You can see that's not the case here.



Once out of the column I noted the cast iron body was probably the best I've run across, with crisp numbers and almost no wear whatsoever.



The same could be said of the bottom sheave as well, with only a few light scuffs.



All things considered this was a very well maintained MSA pulley. The only real modification I can see was substituting the original flat head screws that secure the bearings with hex head and a lock nut.



To definitively show that this MSA pulley would fit in a 2" ID Model 80 column without the outer sleeve.



I was quite happy to find this Craftsman motor shaft cover. Of all the Craftsman drill presses I have had this is the very first one that came with a shaft cover. The motor it was on was stamped March 1957.

That’s a definite you ****! Msa and the spindle cover . I believe the cover is even more uncommon than the msa.

 

[Hoorn]

@Smokeshow69 I won't argue with that. I've run across some pretty uncommon accessories, but I absolutely never see the covers. That will be going on my drill press (and it's even power bronze!), and I may even swap out MSA pulleys because this one was in such great condition.

From beginning to end this was a satisfying transaction. I was pretty happy handing over 60 bucks for this.

 

[Outlawmws]

SO much suckage...

 

[Hoorn]

Here is the cover.





And here it is in the 1957 Craftsman catalog for .35¢ ($3.53 in 2022)

 

[11b30b4]

Hoorn, great deal. Try finding one of those shaft covers now. They are next to impossible to find in metal. I hit up Frank last year about the shaft covers because I could have sworn that someone had found a company selling them for a reasonable price and posted a pic and link back in the pre update forum days; however, neither Frank nor I could find anything about it. We did find someone who modified a towel rod bracket to use as a shaft cover and it looked nearly like OEM but they could not advise what brand towel rod bracket it was and it was years ago.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Hoorn, great deal. Try finding one of those shaft covers now. They are next to impossible to find in metal. I hit up Frank last year about the shaft covers because I could have sworn that someone had found a company selling them for a reasonable price and posted a pic and link back in the pre update forum days; however, neither Frank nor I could find anything about it. We did find someone who modified a towel rod bracket to use as a shaft cover and it looked nearly like OEM but they could not advise what brand towel rod bracket it was and it was years ago.

I have a fellow collector friend who just picked up a shaft cover nos in the box off the bay . It was something stupid low like $50. Yeah he *****

 

[Smokeshow69]

Here is the cover.





And here it is in the 1957 Craftsman catalog for .35¢ ($3.53 in 2022)

I will pay you what you paid for the drill press for the msa . You keep the press and send me the msa .

 

[Hoorn]

I will pay you what you paid for the drill press for the msa . You keep the press and send me the msa .

Smoke after careful consideration, I think I'm going to pass .

Here are a few pictures after I cleaned it up. The cast iron base is in great condition, as is that bottom sheave.

 

[Hoorn]

Regarding this MSA, it is a King-Seeley MSA, there is a difference!

Of interest, last summer I compared these two MSA cast iron supports. The last three numbers on the support to the right is 113 which denotes Emerson (That MSA was removed from a dark gray 150 which also corroborates Emerson) and of course the MSA shown above has 103, King-Seeley. So now we can determine there are two types of MSA pulleys made, as in the second photo you can see there is a difference in casting.





Here is one last pic for comparison. Note also, all the King-Seeley MSA's I have seen use Norma bearings, the Emerson made MSA shown below uses Nachi.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Smoke after careful consideration, I think I'm going to pass .

Here are a few pictures after I cleaned it up. The cast iron base is in great condition, as is that bottom sheave.

I am shocked you didn’t take me up on my offer . Very nice write up on the different msa’s by the way!

 

[Hoorn]

Regarding the 1957 drill press with the MSA pulley, of interest is the band. It has very fine concentric grooves.



I have three other 100s all with the more common engine turning.







The 2 blue/grey 100s are a 1956 and 1949, the power bronze is 1958.
Seems odd that a 1957 would have such a finely jeweled band while bracketed with other years that had the more common engine turning.

Here is the closest detail I could get.



Perhaps a pattern can be established should others run across this type of band.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Regarding the 1957 drill press with the MSA pulley, of interest is the band. It has very fine concentric grooves.



I have three other 100s all with the more common engine turning.







The 2 blue/grey 100s are a 1956 and 1952, the power bronze is 1958.
Seems odd that a 1957 would have such a finely detailed band while bracketed with other years that had the more common engine turning.

Here is the closest detail I could get.



Perhaps a pattern can be established should others run across this type of band.

I wouldn’t have thought they would’ve ever had different types of machine turned bands. Interesting details. Wondering if it was a 1 year only. I know there is alot of speculation surrounding the 50 year anniversary but I wonder if this feeds into that ?

 

[Hoorn]

@Smokeshow69 I'm pretty skeptical of the various "anniversary" claims surrounding changes to Craftsman tools. In particular we discussed not long ago the power bronze color issued as an anniversary celebration. But it was done without any fanfare whatsoever, without drawing attention to the change as due to an anniversary, and the color stayed around a lot longer than one year. I would imagine this fine groove technique was probably cheaper to stamp out than the more common engine turning. Seems most cosmetic changes revolve around saving money.

 

[Outlawmws]

I'd guess the bands were subbed out and they changed suppliers, OR the reg supplier couldn't meet demand for some reason.

I'm always reading about company fires and having to rebuild for a year for example.

 

[Hoorn]

Regarding the Craftsman 100 engine turned band vs stamped circular lines. Throughout this thread FrankLee had two drill presses that he references as having pressed-in imbrications. I believe it is DP #22 and #86 (At least 86 DPs!!), and both were late model 100s in power bronze. FrankLee also commented on another picture that a member submitted, asking if it was worthy of purchase. This drill press, in wretched condition, was also power bronze and had the pressed-in imbrications on the head frame band.

The 100 I reference is power bronze and also has these pressed-in imbrications. Just as it seems we are closing in on a pattern, there is this 1958 100 I grabbed last year.



This was a picture I took when I pulled it out of the back of my SUV. This picture was in "as is condition" and I had not even placed it in my workshop yet. I bought it from a young man who said his grandfather was the original owner so I doubt it was swapped out.

Until a pre-power bronze 100 is found with these pressed-in imbrication bands it would appear that these type bands coincide with the introduction of the power bronze color change. While it is certainly plausible that they were designed to go along with the new color, what is more likely is that it was cheaper to produce. But as with all things Craftsman there will be anomalies.

 

[RHJO51]

Hello All, I picked up a very nice Craftsman 103.23141 '100' drill press for dirt cheap. I primarily purchased it because it had a vari-slo attachment on it but regardless, the DP itself is in very nice condition with one exception - the spindle pulley is shot. The splines are worn off. I've tried to locate a used spindle pulley without success but I saw someone locally had a Craftsman 113.24540 DP for sale cheap. This is the ugliest DP, Emerson built, perhaps 1968/69? From the parts list I looked at on VM, it appears to have the same spindle pulley so I'm wondering - will the spindle pulley from the 113.24540 Emerson built DP fit my 103.23141 DP? it's just over an hour away and I don't want to drive to get it if the spindle pulley wont fit. Thanks for your help.

 

[Outlawmws]

RHJ, is that the 8 speed DP? (can't tell in the pics) Id so the belt is completely different (Very thin/Narrow)

That said if the splines fit, Maybe ? it would also need to clear the head housing as I think the large end is bigger. and you would need to sue the motor pulley as well. Your third pulley would not work...

 

[RHJO51]

Yeah sorry, the pic is lousy. No - it's the 4 speed pulley. I looked some more and I believe it's an Emerson Gen 2 machine. Thanks

 

[11b30b4]

RH, I believe the splines for all the 100, 150 and Emerson gen 1-4 (excluding the commercial models) are all the same. That pulley should work for you. BTW, the Gen 2 Emerson, although quite ugly, has its fans and the parts are worth money to others considering how short the run on the Gen 2 was and how hard they are to come across. Obviously not the rarest but still fairly hard to find.

While the spindle pulley assembly should work for you, the spindle is different on the Emerson Gen 2. Note that the spindle diameter is the same across all the variants.

The only issue you may run into is the length of the pulley shaft that protrudes from the pulley. This shaft determines how high the pulley mounts above the headstock casting and I do not know if the Gen 2 was the same length as the 100/ 150 series. I suspect it is the same should work for you but be aware that it is possible the shaft is longer (can could be cut down to fit) or is shorter and further modification may be needed.

Note, these pulley assembly's do come up from time to time on ebay and this may be a cheaper option for you. Also, reach out to FrankLee and see if he has one he is willing to sell to you.

Lastly, if the splines are damaged inside the pulley shaft, are the splines on the spindle damaged as well? The spindle is a harder part to source and most likely will require you to purchase a donner drill press to cannibalize.

More information can be found here.

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[11b30b4]

Hoorn, I am wondering if it was a small run from a different manufacture who supplied the engine turned sheets.

I assume that King Seeley purchased engine turned sheets of steel from a supplier who did the turning. K/S just cut out the parts and mounted them on the machines. The engine turned panels on the table saws are much larger and I have never seen the stamped turning on any of the machines I have experience with. I suspect K/S did change the process or supplier, but this was late in the 100 series life cycle and the 150 head bands replaced the engine turned bands. However, if this was the case, then why do we not see any evidence of this stamped turning on any of the other K/S 80 and 100 series tools like table saws, lathes, Band saw blade guard, scroll saws, jointers etc...? I am not saying that there are not any of these machines with this stamped turning, I just have not seen them. Perhaps Frank can jump in here and shed some light.

It should be noted that several cars of the same period used engine turned panels for interior dash trim. I know the engine turned panel on my 10” table saw and the panel on my 9x30 wood lathe both have ½” engine turned circles. I no longer have a 100 series drill press so I can not measure the circles, but I think they were large like 9/16 or 5/8. I was looking for vinyl to put on my wood lathe and could not find ½” circle vinyl anywhere; however, I can find aluminum sheets of ½ turned circles that is marketed towards the auto restoration enthusiast.

 

[RHJO51]

RH, I believe the splines for all the 100, 150 and Emerson gen 1-4 (excluding the commercial models) are all the same. That pulley should work for you. BTW, the Gen 2 Emerson, although quite ugly, has its fans and the parts are worth money to others considering how short the run on the Gen 2 was and how hard they are to come across. Obviously not the rarest but still fairly hard to find.

While the spindle pulley assembly should work for you, the spindle is different on the Emerson Gen 2. Note that the spindle diameter is the same across all the variants.

Th

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RH, I believe the splines for all the 100, 150 and Emerson gen 1-4 (excluding the commercial models) are all the same. That pulley should work for you. BTW, the Gen 2 Emerson, although quite ugly, has its fans and the parts are worth money to others considering how short the run on the Gen 2 was and how hard they are to come across. Obviously not the rarest but still fairly hard to find.

While the spindle pulley assembly should work for you, the spindle is different on the Emerson Gen 2. Note that the spindle diameter is the same across all the variants.

The only issue you may run into is the length of the pulley shaft that protrudes from the pulley. This shaft determines how high the pulley mounts above the headstock casting and I do not know if the Gen 2 was the same length as the 100/ 150 series. I suspect it is the same should work for you but be aware that it is possible the shaft is longer (can could be cut down to fit) or is shorter and further modification may be needed.

Note, these pulley assembly's do come up from time to time on ebay and this may be a cheaper option for you. Also, reach out to FrankLee and see if he has one he is willing to sell to you.

Lastly, if the splines are damaged inside the pulley shaft, are the splines on the spindle damaged as well? The spindle is a harder part to source and most likely will require you to purchase a donner drill press to cannibalize.

More information can be found here.

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Very helpful information - Thank you! I hope to pick up the Emerson Gen 2 today. - Jim

 

[RHJO51]

RH, I believe the splines for all the 100, 150 and Emerson gen 1-4 (excluding the commercial models) are all the same. That pulley should work for you. BTW, the Gen 2 Emerson, although quite ugly, has its fans and the parts are worth money to others considering how short the run on the Gen 2 was and how hard they are to come across. Obviously not the rarest but still fairly hard to find.

While the spindle pulley assembly should work for you, the spindle is different on the Emerson Gen 2. Note that the spindle diameter is the same across all the variants.

The only issue you may run into is the length of the pulley shaft that protrudes from the pulley. This shaft determines how high the pulley mounts above the headstock casting and I do not know if the Gen 2 was the same length as the 100/ 150 series. I suspect it is the same should work for you but be aware that it is possible the shaft is longer (can could be cut down to fit) or is shorter and further modification may be needed.

Note, these pulley assembly's do come up from time to time on ebay and this may be a cheaper option for you. Also, reach out to FrankLee and see if he has one he is willing to sell to you.

Lastly, if the splines are damaged inside the pulley shaft, are the splines on the spindle damaged as well? The spindle is a harder part to source and most likely will require you to purchase a donner drill press to cannibalize.

More information can be found here.

Craftsman Drill Press Information Belts, Bearings, Chucks, Keys, etc…1946-1984

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I did go pickup that Emerson Gen 2 DP from which I was going to steal the sprindle pulley, but when I got it home, it was so complete and in good condition, I decided to not rob parts from it but clean it up and move it on. it's just missing a motor but the guy had the motor pulley. I'll post some pics soon. I was able to locate a spindle pulley elsewhere.

I was cleaning up some stuff and thought I'd post a few pics of some unusual DP options Iv'e come across over the years. First is the rare belt cover which has the original paint and chrome acorn nut. I also have on this DP a Craftsman variable speed motor with optional control switch. One the benchtop 150, I have that cool little hold down vise which works surprisingly well. This DP also came with a odd optional craftsman on-off switch which has a glass fuse inside. Just some odd-ball stuff you don't see every day that I thought you might enjoy.

 

[Hoorn]

@RHJO51 you've got some pretty rare stuff there! On the pulley guard, does it have the assembly that attaches to the shaft that raises and lowers the guard for belt changes? Thank you for sharing such uncommon accessories.

 

[RHJO51]

Thanks - some fun things. YES, the pulley guard has the internals - I missed posting that picture.

 

[11b30b4]

RHJ051, you have some real nice stuff there, and most of it, I have never even seen in person before. I really like the variable speed motor but you are correct that it all is rare and collectable. Also, I am glad you saved the Emerson DP. TBH, I am not a big fan of cannibalizing drill presses and I much prefer a person source the needed parts independently.

 

[RHJO51]

So here are the pics of the 1968-69 Emerson G2. Like I said it's too complete and in great condition to part out. I haven't cleaned anything on it yet. Not a mark on the table. The only odd thing I see is that the base is from the bench top model - not the floor model, but the guy swore he was told it came that way from the factory. Hmmm.... Now if I can only find a period correct motor... Thanks

 

[Hoorn]

I did go pickup that Emerson Gen 2 DP from which I was going to steal the sprindle pulley, but when I got it home, it was so complete and in good condition, I decided to not rob parts from it but clean it up and move it on. it's just missing a motor but the guy had the motor pulley. I'll post some pics soon. I was able to locate a spindle pulley elsewhere.

I was cleaning up some stuff and thought I'd post a few pics of some unusual DP options Iv'e come across over the years. First is the rare belt cover which has the original paint and chrome acorn nut. I also have on this DP a Craftsman variable speed motor with optional control switch. One the benchtop 150, I have that cool little hold down vise which works surprisingly well. This DP also came with a odd optional craftsman on-off switch which has a glass fuse inside. Just some odd-ball stuff you don't see every day that I thought you might enjoy.

RHJ051, can you share more information about your variable speed motor with control switch? Is the noise comparable to a traditional 1/2 horsepower general-purpose motor and is 500 RPMs the slowest it will go? Does it work well?

 

[RHJO51]

The Variable Speed Motor is interesting but it is noisy-er than a regular motor. The RPMs on the control state 500-5000 so fast is crazy fast. I haven't checked it with a tachometer so not sure if it's really 500 RPMs. I don't think the torque is as good as a regular motor either and I'm using a cogged belt. Bottom line, I love the cool factor but a regular motor probable preforms better. I have several other DPs so I'm not dependent on just this one. Again it is cool though!

 

[v10climber]

Hi All. I just wanted to post up and show some appreciation for all the contributions people have made to this thread. I found it hugely helpful when I bought my first late 40s CM DP a bit over a year ago and I was trying to learn about it. Shame that all of Frank's photos are gone as they were massively helpful.

I have been eyeing the slow speed pulley setup that JZiggy builds for a while since I pretty much only drill metal and as such really only need the slowest speed. However, in my usual Facebook marketplace scrolling I found this Power Bronze 100 with a vari-slow setup. It had been up for a bit so I was surprised when the seller responded that it was still available. I went and checked it out and although it was dirty it seemed all there and in good shape. The seller clearly didn't understand what the vari-slow was actually supposed to do. It came with the original CM motor stamped 1956. The motor doesn't have the OEM pulley but included in the sale was a new pulley that is the correct shaft diameter and has a key way but doesn't have a threaded hole for a set screw. I think it might work fine but I need to do a closer comparison to the motor pulley on the DP I already had. Or maybe I can just use the pulley that's currently on the motor since I think I only need the small diameter step. The new DP also came with 3 vices. One Palmgren 000 angle vise, and 2 I haven't been able to find markings on yet. One is a bigger cross slide vise and the 3rd is just a larger but typical DP vise.

New DP on the floor and the one I've owned for a bit on the right. The one on the right is a late 40s model according to the posts Frank had made and although I assume it's been repainted it runs great and so far I haven't found any "creative" modifications from prior owners so it's a good baseline to compare against.





The plan is to clean up the new acquisition and either keep that one or move the Vari-slow setup to my other DP. Either way one of them will be going away. I really don't need 2.

I don't have any real experience with the vari-slow setup. Do you folks see anything off/broken about it? I need to partially disassemble and make sure everything is moving/sliding smoothly.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Hi All. I just wanted to post up and show some appreciation for all the contributions people have made to this thread. I found it hugely helpful when I bought my first late 40s CM DP a bit over a year ago and I was trying to learn about it. Shame that all of Frank's photos are gone as they were massively helpful.

I have been eyeing the slow speed pulley setup that JZiggy builds for a while since I pretty much only drill metal and as such really only need the slowest speed. However, in my usual Facebook marketplace scrolling I found this Power Bronze 100 with a vari-slow setup. It had been up for a bit so I was surprised when the seller responded that it was still available. I went and checked it out and although it was dirty it seemed all there and in good shape. The seller clearly didn't understand what the vari-slow was actually supposed to do. It came with the original CM motor stamped 1956. The motor doesn't have the OEM pulley but included in the sale was a new pulley that is the correct shaft diameter and has a key way but doesn't have a threaded hole for a set screw. I think it might work fine but I need to do a closer comparison to the motor pulley on the DP I already had. Or maybe I can just use the pulley that's currently on the motor since I think I only need the small diameter step. The new DP also came with 3 vices. One Palmgren 000 angle vise, and 2 I haven't been able to find markings on yet. One is a bigger cross slide vise and the 3rd is just a larger but typical DP vise.

New DP on the floor and the one I've owned for a bit on the right. The one on the right is a late 40s model according to the posts Frank had made and although I assume it's been repainted it runs great and so far I haven't found any "creative" modifications from prior owners so it's a good baseline to compare against.





The plan is to clean up the new acquisition and either keep that one or move the Vari-slow setup to my other DP. Either way one of them will be going away. I really don't need 2.

I don't have any real experience with the vari-slow setup. Do you folks see anything off/broken about it? I need to partially disassemble and make sure everything is moving/sliding smoothly.

Ohh, varislow! Nice find there! It doesn’t look like anything is missing or broken. I would recommend cleaning and lubricating it before use.**also you can only adjust it when the machine is on**. Well done. Can’t find one of those here in the Pacific Northwest to save my life but I am looking!

 

[y'sguy]

Great find! Congrats!